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David Gregory: Muslim Brotherhood 'Matured,' 'Sophisticated,' Egypt Not Comparable to Iran

By Alex Fitzsimmons | February 04, 2011 | 17:48

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As pro-Mubarak forces continue to clash with democratic protesters in the streets of Cairo and the situation in Egypt remains volatile and uncertain, NBC's David Gregory confidently declared that the Muslim Brotherhood has no interest in turning Egypt into an Islamist state.

On the February 4 edition of MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports," the moderator of "Meet the Press" blithely dismissed concerns that the Brotherhood might exploit the power vacuum created by outgoing President Hosni Mubarak to codify Islamic law in Egypt.

"It was pointed out by one of the experts on the panel that [the Muslim Brotherhood] will also be aware of their position internationally," announced Gregory, referring to a recent panel he moderated at the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank. "They don't want to overstep that. They don't want to turn it into an Islamist state. They have matured politically in that sense and are rather sophisticated."

Later in the segment, Gregory reiterated the hasty claim that the Brotherhood pose no threat to the prospects of a secular, democratic Egypt: "They are unlikely, the military is, to allow Egypt to become an Islamist state, some kind of theocracy. So this is not Iran in that sense."

Gregory's characterization grossly underestimated the degree to which experts disagree about the role the Brotherhood would play in a post-Mubarak Egypt. Carrie Rosefsky Wickham, an Egypt expert at Emory University, wrote in Foreign Affairs yesterday:

It remains to be seen whether the Brotherhood as an organization – not only individual members – will accept a constitution that does not at least refer to sharia; respect the rights of all Egyptians to express their ideas and form parties; clarify its ambiguous positions on the rights of women and non-Muslims; develop concrete programs to address the nation's toughest social and economic problems; and apply the same pragmatism it has shown in the domestic arena to issues of foreign policy, including relations with Israel and the West.

Wickham, a Middle East scholar, acknowledged that the future of Egypt remains unclear, but Gregory, a journalist who specializes in U.S. domestic politics, was convinced that Egypt will not become a theocracy because the Brotherhood is simply too "sophisticated" to let that happen.

In fact, on CNN yesterday a spokesman for the Brotherhood repeatedly refused to commit to upholding the 1979 Egypt-Israeli peace treaty.

Gregory may have made up his mind, but the experts contend it is premature to conclude that the Brotherhood, an extremist group whose "original mission was to Islamize society through promotion of Islamic law," would not attempt to gradually transform Egypt into a theocracy resembling Iran if it were to control the levers of power.

For a full account of how the mainstream media has downplayed the radical elements of the Brotherhood, watch NewsBusters publisher Brent Bozell's analysis with Sean Hannity last night on "Media Mash."

A transcript of the relevant portions of the program can be found below:

MSNBC
Andrea Mitchell Reports
February 4, 2011

1:32 p.m. EST

ANDREA MITCHELL: What is your take away on what would happen if Mubarak were finally to agree to step down? Who would fill the vacuum?

DAVID GREGORY, host of Meet the Press: Well, that's a huge question. What the administration seems to be working toward, and what experts think is possible, is some kind of transition period, some kind of coalition government. You talk about the Muslim Brotherhood. They would play a role. It was pointed out by one of the experts on the panel that they will also be aware of their position internationally. They don't want to overstep that. They don't want to turn it into an Islamist state. They have matured politically in that sense and are rather sophisticated. The question of Mohammed El Baradei, whether he's someone who's actually a legitimate opposition force remains to be seen. What role will the military play in some kind of coalition government or a transitional phase. That's also very important.

And I think that Martin just made, in terms of the shock waves from Cairo. Remember, one of the reasons why Egypt got so big was because of the outcome in Tunisia. The leader of the country actually left and all of a sudden protesters think "wow, maybe we could pull that off here." And I think that's what everyone's waiting for is to see what the outcome is like.

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MITCHELL: And you spoke of the role of the military and it is widely believed that if he has to be pushed, rather than nudged, it will be the military that goes to him. This is the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mike Mullen, with Jon Stewart on The Daily Show last night.

[...]

MITCHELL: So Mike Mullen is making the point that is the line of the communication, the most fruitful line of communication. We know that Joe Biden talked to Soliman, the vice president, but it's the military to military communication that perhaps is framing not only the American response but what happens there.

GREGORY: It's been everything, right? In terms of their position to not fire on protesters is a way to put pressure on Mubarak to go. They will have some role in the future. They are unlikely, the military is, to allow Egypt to become an Islamist state, some kind of theocracy. So this is not Iran in that sense. And it's a very important institution.

--Alex Fitzsimmons is a News Analysis intern at the Media Research Center. Click here to follow him on Twitter.

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Are these clowns

Submitted by ripper58 on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 5:53pm.

willing to stake the lives of Egyptians on their absurd claims?

"I got pie" ...BHO 2011
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The MSM's naive assessment of the Muslim Brotherhood

Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 6:39pm.

is reminiscent of their ga-ga assessment of Yuri Andropov when he succeeded Brezhnev to the premiership of the USSR.

They were anticipating that he would bring reforms to the USSR and reach out to the West because it was rumored that he liked Western novels and drank scotch whiskey (None of this was ever verfied). 

Conveniently overlooked was the fact that Andropov was a KGB man who masterminded the brutal suppression of the Hungarian Revolution in 1956, and later the suppression of dissent in Prague Spring (1968) and the Soviet Union.  Many high-level Soviet leaders considered him the scariest of them all, willing to substitute KGB methods for Communist Party policies.

Andropov's tenure was brief ( a little over a year) due his untimely death, but he certainly was more of the hardline Soviet Communist than Gorbachev, and it's not likely that things in the USSR would've gotten more liberal under an extended tenure.  Things were more likely to get worse.

And don't forget the American press' fascination with Mussolini, Hitler, and even Stalin in the Thirties, until war in Europe looked in evitable.

Little wonder some of them paint the Muslim Brotherhood as a sophisticated political faction that has abandoned violent methods and is ready to compromise with secular Egyptians.  It's in their Leftist blood.

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Gregory was remarkably brave in his reporting from Cairo

Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 6:34pm.

Illinois.

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Say what?

Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 6:49pm.

I would never equate Islam with "mature."  That's oil and water.  Nor would I ever call them "sophisticated."

Barbaric, yes,  Animalistic, yes.  Just plain insane, oh HELL yes.

-Jon

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Yeah, mature... like Grok The Caveman

Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 6:57pm.

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Gregory couldn't be more wrong.

Submitted by Thalpy on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:02pm.

 "It was pointed out by one of the experts on the panel that [the Muslim Brotherhood] will also be aware of their position internationally," announced Gregory, referring to a recent panel he moderated at the Brookings Institution, a liberal think tank. "They don't want to overstep that. They don't want to turn it into an Islamist state. They have matured politically in that sense and are rather sophisticated."

They're sophisticated. Through stealth jihad they are implementing Sharia law throughout the world including Islamic banking. This mindless newsreader knows nothing about the Muslim Brotherhood's goals. His opinion about the Muslim Brotherhood has no value.



 

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Gregory is Jewish,

Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:06pm.

Gregory is Jewish, right?

 

"Liberalism is a mental disorder."

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I was under the impression

Submitted by jkwtrading on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:51pm.

I was under the impression all Gregory was a local Washington DRUNK.

 

Heavy booze man whom when drunk had the old foot in mouth routine down pat.

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It is a mystery how David

Submitted by celator on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:49pm.

It is a mystery how David Gregory can sleep at night. Why doesn't his conscience keep him awake? How can he look at himself in the mirror and not weep for the lies he tells the American people.

Muslim Brotherhood=Hamas. The goal is the destruction of Israel, and the implementation of Sharia law world-wide. They will kill anyone who gets in their way to accomplish this.

From Hamas’s 1988 charter (“The Charter of Allah: The Platform of the Islamic Resistance Movement”)

Article Two: The Link between Hamas and the Association of Muslim Brothers. The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of the Muslim Brothers in Palestine. The Muslim Brotherhood Movement is a world organization, the largest Islamic Movement in the modern era.

And this from the same charter:

"...the Hamas has been looking forward to implement Allah’s promise whatever time it might take. The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!"

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/258381/hamas-muslim-brotherhood-and...

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What Insight from the scholars

Submitted by cestes on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 7:53pm.

Sophisticated or simply practicing taquia?  These fools are unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVsr-_-v2sI
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Mature, sophisticated, and ...

Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 8:58pm.

... they will cut your throat!

Liberals redefine dumb assed.

God, the sunset was beautiful tonight.  78 degrees and not a cloud in the sky.  How is the rest of the nation doing?

Comrade Bubba
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Read their web page, David.

Submitted by Cowboy on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 9:20pm.

Read their web page, David. Do some real work for a change...

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Now that's a useful Idiot

Submitted by donabernathy on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 9:24pm.

Dave..Dave...Dave...... I got a Bridge in Brooklyn... I'm look'n 2 sell

 

roflmao

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The Camel-Washer Brotherhood is "mature" and "sophisticated?"

Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 10:12pm.

They are 'mature' only in the sense that the one's that don't manage to blow themselves up in a suicide bombing attack, or aren't killed by one of our soldiers or another camel-washer, actually live long enough to sport some grey in their weird beards.

As for their level of 'sophistication,' that has not advanced beyond the 7th Century in 1400 years.

These people are little more than primitive 7th Century tyrannical barbarians who can occasionally contruct a bomb that actually detonates.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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A Tim Russert he is not.

Submitted by Ashrak on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 11:32pm.

Maybe it is just me, but I would just love to see Gregory say something of this nature while sitting across the table from an intellectual and literary guru like Don Rumsfeld.

Gregory would need a couple of fifths after the flogging that would no doubt take place. I am so looking forward to Rummy's book promotions on the circuit. 

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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Is there no limit to the left's naivite?

Submitted by joinamerica on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 11:40pm.

How much blood do leftists have on their hands? Clearly, they are ineducable.

In the sixties they told us that the Viet Cong were the "good communists". One millon deaths later, we heard no appology from American leftists. (Actually Jane Fonda of all people said she had been mistaken).

I feel so sad for the people all over the world who will pay the price of the left's gullibility.

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Egypt is not like Iran

Submitted by stunned on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 11:50pm.

Egypt is not like Iran according to Gregory and he's right.  Iran and Lebanon were both once liberal, secular and cosmopolitan countries before conflicts and chaos left them leaderless and islamic radicals stepped into the void and imposed Islamic rule.  Egypt is much more religious than those other countries with the Islamic Brotherhood holding almost 20% of the seats in Parliment.  Look at Tunisia, the President has left yet the riots continue and today shop keepers armed with sticks and knives battle with the demonstrators.  Denying Egypt will at severe risk to going down the radical path without an orderly transition is stupid. 

tired of liberal lies

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Perhaps he's "Ron Burgundy"...

Submitted by Army Brat on Sat, 02/05/2011 - 4:21am.

   He will read aloud, anything that appears on the teleprompter and isn't really aware of what he's saying.

  Perhaps he is a willing participant with others in perpetrating the lie that islam and the sharia law that comes of it are a threat to no one.

  Or...he's just so poorly informed that he actually believes what he says out of sheer ignorance.

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
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David as an International expert --NOT!

Submitted by ron8072 on Sat, 02/05/2011 - 8:51am.

David Gregory is extremely knowledgable and highly important (in his own eyes).  He needs to get over himself, as most liberals should also.  It is one thing to be silently stupid, but quite another to open your mouth and prove it to the world.  He knows no more than I what is going on in the world and probably less about the causes and cures.

Ron8072
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What color is the sky in Gregory's world?

Submitted by Nightfly on Sat, 02/05/2011 - 9:35am.

What kind of fantasy world is David Gregory living in? Claiming that the Muslim Brotherhood has matured and is not interested in turning Egypt into a Islamist state is totally absurd. Did he get that on the liberal media conference call with a WH rep or was it straight from the cocktail party with POTUS at Axlerod's farewell party?  Next he's going to tell us that Al Quaida is really just a muslim men's club.  

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How freaking ridiculous is this guy?

Submitted by Patriot II on Sat, 02/05/2011 - 11:47am.

We have been watching egypts "mature" and "sophisticated" all over tv...are you freaking crazy?

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