Reuters Editor Shrieks: Tax 'Lucky Sperm Club' to Break 'Landed Gentry'
For Chrystia Freeland, the thought of only taxing wealthy estates 35 percent is "destructive to the fabric of America." The Reuters global editor-at-large went on a ear-piercing tear this afternoon on MSNBC's "Dylan Ratigan Show," stoking the flames of class warfare.
"[The wealthy] were just born–it's the lucky sperm club, right?" screeched Freeland. "I don't think American wealth should be determined by that."
Politics Daily contributor Matt Lewis, for his part, tried to maintain a civil discourse, but Freeland repeatedly interrupted him to interject her inflammatory rhetoric.
"I thought the philosophy was against a landed gentry," asserted an indignant Freeland. "I thought the philosophy was against an aristocracy. I thought the American way was you build it yourself and everyone was born equal."
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Dylan Ratigan, who anchors the afternoon program, concurred with the acrimonious former Rhodes scholar that there is an entrenched aristocracy in America that needs to be rooted out: "The premise behind this country was, as Chrystia was saying, you need some mechanism to break the landed gentry, the Rothschild dynasty."
When Lewis, a conservative commentator, made the argument that it is unfair for the government to tax people for dying, Freeland snapped back with a truly bizarre claim: "You're not being taxed for dying. Because you're dead actually, so you're not paying the tax."
Instead of addressing the spirit of Lewis's argument, Freeland opted to split hairs and resume admonishing those undeserving trust-fund babies who are "handed a silver spoon."
Throughout the debate, Freeland simply could not comprehend why Republicans think it's immoral to steal one man's inheritance to fund another man's welfare program.
A partial transcript of the segment can be found below:
MSNBC
Dylan Ratigan Show
December 15, 2010
4:18 P.M. EST
DYLAN RATIGAN: Are we wrong to debate this, though, without considering that we're borrowing a trillion dollars to do it? And should the debate be if we're going to borrow another trillion dollars is the best way to spend these tax cuts or should there be some higher output use of a borrowed trillion?
CHRYSTIA FREELAND, Reuters global editor-at-large: No, for sure and it's also where do the cute come from? The thing that I have the most sympathy for in the criticism of this compromise is the estate tax. I just don't understand the logic of the big Republican push for that. Why is it so important that people who are inheriting five million dollars–that's a lot of money–get a real tax break for that?
MATT LEWIS, Politics Daily: The philosophy says if you earned something, you paid taxes on it when you earned it. Now you're paying taxes on it when you die.
FREELAND: I thought the philosophy was against a landed gentry. I thought the philosophy was against an aristocracy. I thought the American way was you build it yourself and everyone was born equal and has a chance to do it.
(Crosstalk )
LEWIS: Instead of having an inheritance tax, if there was an income tax on the person receiving it. I mean this goes to fundamental change.
FREELAND: I suspect the Republicans would not be excited about that idea.
LEWIS: There's just zero chance that I'm going to have a problem with the estate tax. I would need to make five million dollars before it would affect me and I'm still against it as a matter of philosophy.
FREELAND: Why?
LEWIS: Because it's my money, not the government's. If I earned it, I already paid taxes on it once. For them to then tax me for dying.
FREELAND: You're not being taxed for dying. Because you're dead actually, so you're not paying the tax. I don't believe that dead people can pay taxes. I think it's your heirs who pay the taxes. And actually, I don't think that people being handed a silver spoon is something that's good for society to do or actually even for their parents to do. I think it's really really destructive to the fabric of America.
LEWIS: I actually would not leave them a big inheritance. I don't think it's good for them. But that's my decision. That's not up for the government to decide.
RATIGAN: To stay with the estate tax, one of the premises behind the departure from Western Europe of the immigrants was that you had a landed gentry, an aristocracy, where all of the money was with people, four, five, six generations, who had no incentive to invest that money, no incentive to do anything with that money. In fact they may not have any ideas as to what to do with it. The premise behind this country was, as Chrystia was saying, you need some mechanism to break the landed gentry, the Rothschild dynasty that was leading to the extraction in Western Europe. And isn't the premise behind the estate tax not to tax somebody–and again, I'm the last person to say listen let's give the government more money–but if the fundamental of capitalism is based on those principles, doesn't it make sense to not let capital pool up with people who have no incentive to invest it or do anything with it?
FREELAND: And who didn't earn it, actually! They were just born–it's the lucky sperm club, right? I don't think American wealth should be determined by that.
LEWIS: I do think that there are people that have very good intentions who really think that when you have a society with very rich people and very poor people, that's actually dangerous. It's dangerous for everybody, including the rich people. Having said that, America is still the land of opportunity–
FREELAND: But how is an estate tax opportunity? An estate tax is the opposite of opportunity!
--Alex Fitzsimmons is a News Analysis intern at the Media Research Center. Click here to follow him on Twitter.
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Arrrrghhhh! Somebody just shoot me already.
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:06pm.
Reading/listening to liberals try to explain either economics or capitalism is worse than a root canal without novicain.
And isn't the premise behind the estate tax not to tax somebody–and again, I'm the last person to say listen let's give the government more money–but if the fundamental of capitalism is based on those principles, doesn't it make sense to not let capital pool up with people who have no incentive to invest it or do anything with it?
Let it? Who is doing this "allowing", eh? Dude....a command economy (allowing/disallowing economic activity) is the antithesis of capitalism, estupido!
These people are so far beyond brain dead it isn't even funny. Instead of having a death tax, I propose a stupid tax! We could start with idiot media bobbleheads, and select internet trolls. We'll "let" them keep, oh say, 10% of their earnings.
(to the tune of Lady Madonna)....Seeeeee how they shreik!!!!
STUPID TAX NOW!!! STUPID TAX NOW!!!! STUPID TAX NOW!!!
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Blonde, where do they get the
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:09pm.
Blonde, where do they get the idea that people with money just
let capital pool up with people who have no incentive to invest it or do anything with it?That's the fastest way to lose money. People with money keep it by investing it. Either they know it and are lying or are incredibly stupid. You're right, let's tax stupid.
Exactly Rad,
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:41pm.
You know how the guy who inherited his money made a small fortune?
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He started with a large one!
Old joke, but it makes the point, yes?
These people are idiots. STUPID TAX NOW!!!!! (With my new tax on stupidity, I'll solve the deficeit in three years, max).
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A stupid tax?
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:31pm.
Wow! That would fix the dificit before the end of the lame duck session.
As for this chick's resentment towards the stingy greedy rich who don't invest or spend their money, as if it's any of her business, I guess she's never heard of Carnegie Hall, the Guggeheim Museum. Rockefeller Center, Yale University...etc., etc.
I'm just sayin...
STUPID TAX NOW!!!!
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:43pm.
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Stupid Tax Allready Exists
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:45pm.
There allready is a tax on the stupid in most states. It's called the Lottery.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
All three of these people
Submitted by MidAmerica on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:11pm.
All three of these people have more money and more opportunity than I have. I want them taxed and the proceeds sent to me.
STUPID TAX NOW!!!!
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:44pm.
And since you made such a good point, I'm earmarking, oh say, $50 million for you.
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Hey Thanks....
Submitted by MidAmerica on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:51pm.
I'm going out tomorrow and see if I can get a line of credit against that bit of 'Social Justice' headed my way.
Class envy and jealousy for $1,000, Alex.
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:29pm.
What makes Chyrstia Freeland spin into a tizzy?
Congratulations on winning the daily double, Miss Freeland. You are not only a parasite, you are clueless too.
So the Kennedy wealth should be broken up?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:38pm.
"The premise behind this country was, as Chrystia was saying, you need some mechanism to break the landed gentry, the Rothschild dynasty."
Should the Heinz wealth, as in Mr. John "IservedinVietNam" Kerry Heinz, be broken up? I mean, "...I don't think that people being handed a silver spoon is something that's good for society to do or actually even for their parents to do. I think it's really really destructive to the fabric of America." I agree with MidAmerica. Tax the Kennedys and the Heinz at 100% and the proceeds go to me. I'll be the nouveau riche for awhile.I think the Heinz fortune
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:32pm.
I think the Heinz fortune should be taken from Theresa and given to his kids. Surely Heinz couldn't have forseen his untimely death and Theresa marrying John Kerry.
Think Kerry would still want Theresa without the money?
No
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 12:13am.
He's just a gigolo.
"I don't think that people
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 8:38pm.
"I don't think that people being handed a silver spoon is something that's good for society to do or actually even for their parents to do. I think it's really really destructive to the fabric of America."
Depends on the values of those who are handing out the silver spoon; however, it really isn't anyone else's business but their own -- at least in America is shouldn't be.
If giving money to people who didn't earn it is bad ...
Submitted by KC Mulville on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:22pm.
If giving money to people who didn't earn it is bad , because it wasn't earned... how can anyone consider welfare saintly?
Today, it's money...
Submitted by diskinetic on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:52pm.
Tomorrow I guess we'll all see the inherent unfairness is people "lucky" enough to be born healthier than others, and we'll systematically cripple them to the point of lowest common denominator.
Liberality is tyranny.
Most of the "rich" were'nt
Submitted by rbosque on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 1:59am.
Most of the "rich" were'nt rich 10 years ago, wealth is very transitory. Liberals don't think before they open their mouths.
So sad and
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 2:05am.
so true! Unfortunately, Liberals also dominate the media so they don't think they need to speak BEFORE THEY OPEN their mouths.
Did anyone catch the logical
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:17am.
Did anyone catch the logical (yeah, I know) fallicy here?
I thought the American way was you build it yourself and everyone was born equal and has a chance to do it.
Everyone does have a chance. Whatever chance they make for themselves. The people who want to pass down their wealth DID build it themselves (and ALREADY paid taxes on it). In this brain-dead diatribe, the suggestion is that when someone works hard all their life and makes a lot of money, when they die it all goes back to the state. Then their children get to work hard all their lives and make a lot of money, which will go back to the state when they die. And conveniently forgotten is the fact that the "unfairness" of some people making money while others don't legitimizes giving the dead guy's money to those who didn't have any. Where's the "build it yourself " aspect? The bitching is over someone inheriting money they supposedly didn't earn, yet the argument is to give it to someone else who didn't earn it.
Is there, somewhere in all this pile of crap, a single scrap of sense that I'm missing?
It's funny to listen to her
Submitted by inquiringmind on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:32am.
It's funny to listen to her thoughts on the estate tax. I would bet if her mom and dad had a business making widgets and they had the good fortune to have worked hard, been frugal with their money and saved she might be singing a different tune.
She would be livid when she finds out how much of a check she would have to write to the IRS at their passing.
And even more upset when she finds out all of their net worth was tied up in the business and she now has to sell the family company just to pay estate taxes.