Should there be a "gatekeeper" regulating internet bloggers? In the aftermath of the Shirley Sherrod incident, that's what CNN promoted on July 23.
Anchors Kyra Phillips and John Roberts discussed the "mixed blessing of the internet," and agreed that there should be a crackdown on anonymous bloggers who disparage others on the internet.
"There are so many great things that the internet does and has to offer, but at the same time, Kyra, as you know, there is this dark side," Roberts said. "Imagine what would have happened if we hadn't taken a look at what happened with Shirley Sherrod and plumbed the depths further and found out that what had been posted on the internet was not in fact reflective of what she said."
But Phillips replied that the mainstream media "can't always do that."
"There's going to have be a point in time where these people have to be held accountable," Phillips said. "How about all these bloggers that blog anonymously? They say rotten things about people and they're actually given credibility, which is crazy. They're a bunch of cowards, they're just people seeking attention."
Phillips demanded to know what Andrew Keen thought needed to be done. Keen, author of "The Cult of the Amateur: How Today's Internet is Killing Our Culture," who suggested that there needs to be an internet "gatekeeper," had been interviewed by Roberts and quoted in the segment.
"Well what Andrew talked about with me was this idea of a gatekeeper but there are huge first amendment rights that come into play here - freedom of speech and all that. And he said the people who need to be the gatekeepers are the media to check into these stories," said Roberts.
Phillips wanted to go even further, asking if "there's going to come a point where something's going to have to be done legally" about anonymous bloggers.
"There has to be some point where there's some accountability. And companies, especially in the media have to stop giving these anonymous bloggers credit," she said.
Roberts responded that anonymous blogging might benefit from "checks and balances."
"If you're in a place like Iran or North Korea or something like that, anonymous blogging is the only way you could ever get your point of view out without being searched down and thrown in jail or worse," said Roberts. "But when it comes to a society like ours, an open society, do there have to be some checks and balances, not national, but maybe website to website on who comments on things?"
CNN's two regulation-happy reporters, think the Sherrod situation can help bring attention to the "necessity" of blogging reform if she brings a defamation lawsuit against Andrew Breitbart.
According to Roberts, Sherrod has "the power now and she also has the profile to maybe bring this into a new light, so we'll see where this goes."
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The federal government
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 17:55 ET by BeukeboomThe federal government can't effectively run current programs much less undertake control of bloggers and blog content. What a joke.
A defamation lawsuit against Andrew Breitbart? Really? For what? What an even bigger joke!
This is...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:17 ET by unkeeafThis is the backdoor they are going to attempt to walk through. Fairness Doctrine is out of the question, but this is an option they'll likely pursue. I don't think they have a shot, but there are liberal courts across the fruited plain, so you never know.
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You are right and
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 03:03 ET by Mallet HeadYou are right and wrong.
The fed's (or most state and city gov's) can't effectively run programs. Right.
Undertake control of bloggers and blog content? Doable.
You know ObamaCare isn't about an effective health system. It's about governmental control. It doesn't have to be effective to do that. It's prolly better it isn't. Trash the system by gov interference, blame everyone else, offer more gov as a solution. Americans fall for it all the time.
Same with controlling the internet. The internet isn't beyond control. Look at China, Iran, and other places. Create 'fairness doctrine' for the internet. Apply taxes, new rules and regulations. The FCC is already trying this. Make imaginary boogie men. Trash the system.
If this hasn't already been done over and over again in the last 50 years, how else did we get to be this unrecognizable piece of garbage that currently passes as 'land of the free' America.
"Undertake control of
Sun, 07/25/2010 - 02:15 ET by Beukeboom"Undertake control of bloggers and blog content? Doable."
Actually not doable especially since there are literally thousands of work-arounds for posting. For example how can the U.S. control the content coming from a blog using an ISP in, let's say, Romania or Columbia. And that's just one area.
Insane!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 21:03 ET by NewHampshireHow in heck did Andy defame Sherrod? She is the one who spewed the racist nonsense while the rest of the NAACPers shouted out in approval.
Let's face it, the woman, and the NAACP are racists, always have been.
Nothing to see here, move along!
Now then, is the left going to hold itself accountable for all the trash and lies it spews? Like Rachel Maddow saying that the ACORN tapes were 'fake'? Or that FOX NEWS forced Shirley's firing?
We are heading for progressive fascism my friends if we don't do something to stop these racists!
A woman lost her job for 24 hours
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:00 ET by Quasi-socialistNeither Fox News, Breitbart, nor Glenn Beck showed so little care as to make her pull to the side of the road and resign. Are they really making the case that this is the kind of tragedy for which we can no longer suffer the first amendment?
Most of the damage was done by "people so much smarter than us". Remember trying to convince us of that one?
I know we are coming to the point that we won't listen to each other anymore--but you don't think control over media is warranted so that in 10%+ unemployment a woman doesn't lose her job for less than 24 hours, you're being silly?
That a woman loses her job for an evening is so troublesome but coming close to shutting down the other side of the news isn't close to fascism and epistemic closure?
They just made a ruling that it is Unconstitutional to prevent somebody from lying about medals. Thus suggesting a constitutional right to lie--so we've got to crack down on bloggers, how?
Actually READ Breitbart's piece where he introduces this. Take all of his points in context and you tell me that he was that "irresponsible" you either didn't understand the piece or you're an Alinskyite who will say anything. We've got a guy on MSNBC who has memorized parts of Alinsky, but he's not the threat--nuanced points are a threat!
Of course they mean they
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:02 ET by DarasenOf course they mean they want a "gate keeper" for content that disagrees with them. Any and all factless smears against those on the right, Christians, and anyone else they dislike is perfectly acceptable.
Confound you all!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 03:30 ET by MadRatPoor Kyra Phillips. If only she could get rid of that yucky freedom of speech then like really smart Liberal people could turn American into a way cool place to live! Uh... except when nasty Conservatives have enough votes to squish all the nice people, then we need freedom of speech to speak truth to power, man! Wooo!
When self-serving delusions threaten America
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:03 ET by KC MulvilleIt's astonishing how self-serving these idiots are.
OK, let's have some accountability. Let's make the media, Phillips and Roberts first, accountable for whatever they say. If they claim that black congressmen were spat on and people yelled the N word, let's fine or fire Phillips and Roberts if they can't prove it. Let's suspend CNN's license if there's any question about what they report.
You know what these idiots are saying? They're saying that bloggers have to prove their credibility, but that they don't. They take it for granted that their credibility (which every poll denies) is unassailable.
We have to end this myth of professional journalists. It's turning into a time bomb that will demolish the very thing they presume to protect: the first amendment.
LOL, KC...you took the thought right out of my head
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:11 ET by BlondeI read this article...and immediately this para jumped out at me:
Replace the media bloggers with the MsM journolisters (or others of their bent...we really need a strike through feature here).
The media makes up a lie, then repeats it incessantly until the perception is that it's the truth. So....They're a bunch of cowards, they're just people seeking attention."
A la John F'ing and his tax evading boat slip...."do as I say, not as I do".
Sheesh!
I hope he fails, too.
journOlisters
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:39 ET by mom_roxThere, now the correct letter is emphasized.
a suggestion for the NB staff - Create a graphic of journOlist with the Obama logo in the middle. I have a feeling that graphic might get some use in future NB articles.
*sigh* If only there were a law to keep our executive branch from acting stupidly.
~~save your tea, dump congress~~
Paging Bob Keyser!
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:44 ET by BlondeDuchess...you are a fountain of witty.
I hope he fails, too.
On it. Has anyone seen any
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:48 ET by BKeyserOn it. Has anyone seen any graphics associated with Journolist yet? If so, where?
Att'n NB'ers! Need Assistance.....
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:10 ET by BlondeOur resident artist is willing and able to provide more amusement for us...but needs your help.
Oh, BK....perhaps just a mishmash of faces, on someone else's bod....a la the SEC thing you did for me last year? Hee hee.
I hope he fails, too.
J
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 20:07 ET by BKeyserI got something going. It'll be uploaded shortly.
JournOlist Photoshop
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 20:28 ET by BKeyserOkay, I banged this out pretty quickly. I hope you like it. If anyone has any better ideas, I'm all ears.
BK
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 20:33 ET by MrShyThat's great!!!
BK, That's pretty good.
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:03 ET by R D HelmMaybe you should think along the lines of JournoBlisters, kind of like warts on the arse of true journalism, or something.
-Dave
It’s either Obama or America. There cannot be both.
Then again, Maybe not.
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 22:21 ET by R D HelmLOL.
-Dave
It’s either Obama or America. There cannot be both.
All ears, hee hee
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:22 ET by BlondeLoved that keyboard!
I hope he fails, too.
Hah, you picked up on that-
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:24 ET by BKeyserHah, you picked up on that- I thought I was being subtle.
BK---
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:59 ET by matthewdeanJust plain perfect.
MD
Nice!
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 23:00 ET by mom_rox(I noticed un-logo'd keyboard letters as well.) Just missing the letter I and the ♥ symbol on the keyboard.
Speaking of logos, are you able to replace the second O in JournOlist with the Obama logo? You might have to stretch the logo into an oval.
~~save your tea, dump congress~~
JournOList Photoshop #2
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 02:03 ET by MrShyI came up with a funny, from a scene with the reporters in "His Girl Friday".
:)
OMO!!!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 02:06 ET by Candance MooreThat is soooo funny. Especially being from that movie. If they made HGF in 2010 it would be totally like that.
Nice job Shy!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 09:45 ET by BKeyserNice job Shy!
BK
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 16:16 ET by MrShyThanks!!! Coming from you, it's the ultimate compliment.
:)
Okay...I'll grudingly admit
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 16:33 ET by JerOkay...I'll grudingly admit that was a good one, Shy.
Jer
What part of Freedom of
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:06 ET by Kat Outta the BagWhat part of Freedom of Speech are they missing? Oh, that's right...that's part of that throwaway thing called the Constitution, isn't it?
"The Cult of the Amateur:
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:08 ET by MidAmerica"The Cult of the Amateur: How Today's Internet is Killing Our Culture," .........
Yeah, killing the culture of the professional Liberal media.
'So This Is How Liberty Dies...With Thunderous Applause'
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:10 ET by NL207And the enablers in the MSM are now calling for the next stage of tyranny to be imposed.
thunderous applause
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:15 ET by jon_torlinI said that very statement (h/t Padme a la Lucas) on Jan 20, 2009.
The applause is dying down, but it's 40% still there.
-Jon
they say...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:18 ET by MidAmerica.....that the camera adds ten pounds
but evidently it doesn't add anything to a persons IQ.
Mid
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:46 ET by well99In those two's case it must take away from the IQ.In large increments.
That's right, CNN, we need
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:20 ET by bse5150That's right, CNN, we need someone who can regulate speech.
Someone who can make decisions on who is allowed to say what.
Someone who will make people PAY when they say things that CNN considers... wrong.
Who might that be, CNN? Any ideas?
Someone to bail out the media
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:32 ET by Quasi-socialistwhen the people won't read them or watch them anymore...
Statists
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:27 ET by VengeanceIsMine"something's going to have to be done legally"
Statist creeps. They are just pissed they are not longer deciding what IS and what IS NOT news. Get used to it you jerks.
Adapt or die MSM...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but Illusion of knowledge." Stephen Hawking
I agree. The Feds should
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:33 ET by SlyrrI agree. The Feds should send in some jack-booted thugs and shut down CNN once and for all - put it out of it's misery, and put these so-called 'reporters' in the doghouse where they belong.
I'm afraid I agree with CNN and Roberts...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:42 ET by krendler...can't we take these undesirables, these "bloggers" as they're called, and put them in a gulag or something similar?
Seriously, Mr "mousse in my hair every morning" Roberts: I think that's what our legal system is for. If Shirley thinks she was wronged by Bill O'Reilly or Breitbart (as opposed to the White House and NAACP), by all means, I'd love to see her go for it.
Interesting to hear that Sherrod has "the power now." As far as I'm concerned, she's nothing but a bitter, divisive racist. There's 45 minutes of video that proves it.
If she doesn't like
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:43 ET by MidAmericaIf she doesn't like what she sees on the internet then she should do what I did about CNN. Just don't look at it.
They say rotten things
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:54 ET by ThisnThatWho does this apply to? Olbermann? Mathews? Ed Shultz? The View ladies? Dan Rather? The NYT? CNN? WaPo? Huffpo (the only place for news, according to obama)?
Or does this only apply to the selected people that CNN wants to hush up? Hmmmmmm????
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“You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." — John Quincy Adams
'' ....there's going to
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 18:58 ET by DoktorFranken'' ....there's going to come a point where something's going to have to be done legally...''
There you have it, people. The NEXT Leftist (JournoList) Talking Point to shut down contrary speech.
November 2010
This is why CNN stands for
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:00 ET by Martin2717This is why CNN stands for the Communist News Network. Btw, has anyone noticed that you haven't heard a peep from the NAACP in the last couple of days? Their silence speaks volumes.
Phillips and Roberts...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:00 ET by PrairieSky"There's going to have be a point in time where these people have to be held accountable," Phillips said. "How about all these bloggers that blog anonymously? They say rotten things about people and they're actually given credibility, which is crazy. They're a bunch of cowards, they're just people seeking attention."
It's called free speech, idiots, and the fact that Phillips and Roberts don't like what is said by conservative bloggers is tough...I happen to despise the constant stream of leftist bs and lies that is spewed on a daily basis by the unhinged left, but, we still do have free speech in this country. Phillips and Roberts and those like them are the true cowards here...They are so afraid of any views that are contrary to or that challenge theirs, that they want to silence the opposing voices...That's real cowardice, only they are so far out on the fringes of the liberal, leftist galaxy that they can't see it.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
I'm pretty sure Roberts is oblivious to the irony in saying
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:20 ET by panzerakc"If you're in a place like Iran or North Korea or something like that, anonymous blogging is the only way you could ever get your point of view out without being searched down and thrown in jail or worse," said Roberts. "But when it comes to a society like ours, an open society, do there have to be some checks and balances, not national, but maybe website to website on who comments on things?"
While participating in a discussion about cracking down on anonymous bloggers in America.
As has been said before, neither Breitbart, Fox News, Sean Hannity, nor Bill O'Reilly are responsible for getting Ms. Sherrod fired. That responsibility is laid directly at the feet of Obama. (Can anyone say, "Acted stupidly"?)
Were all of the mainstream media folks dropped on their heads as children, and just never recovered?
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alana-goodman/2010/07/23/cnn-host-calls-crackdown-bloggers-wake-sherrod-incident-something-s-g#ixzz0uY9hLmBY
"Oblivious"...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:42 ET by PrairieSky"Oblivious" is right...I can't think of a better word to describe these cretins or the rest of their leftist brethren.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
I Cannot Think Of One Instance . . .
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 00:55 ET by DoktorFranken. . . . of any Conservative News Forum (or Talk Radio person or FNC personality) where they seriously call for the shutting down of someone's show or web site or the stifling of a Leftist's Free Speech. Oh, sure, they belittle Leftist people that show their utter stupidity and hate but they have yet to make a plea to censor someone or to have them removed from the air or the Internet.
I guess that's still a ''Facist thing'', eh?
Yes, we wonder out loud ''how in the hell'' did Olbermann or Schultz ever get a show. Or ''who, in their right mind'' would pay these jerks or watch them? That's only reasonable considering their mental problems that are being inseminated into the Ignorant Masses. But Conservatives, on the whole, actually like that ''Freedom of Speech'' thingy.
November 2010
A Gatekeeper. Say Bye-bye Huffpo and all the rest
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:21 ET by rammingspeedPhillips and Rogers are being disingenuous. They aren't singling out "anonymous bloggers." They're singling out anyone who criticizes the left. It's got to be someone rigged to make it look like all anonymous bloggers (neither of these two could ever think that through), but only getting the right wing ones.
Bad try.
And Breitbart did nothing wrong, which is evident at least by the fact that the wolves aren't on the run, tearing his throat out. Oh, there's been some token whining, but they know they ain't got sh*t. Breitbart reported the information he'd received. That was all he knew about.
Still waiting...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 19:49 ET by shanecomebackfor Dan Rather to apologize to Bush, or for Bush to sue Rather.
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
NYT
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 23:09 ET by mom_roxDid the New York Times ever apologize to John McCain or to Cindy McCain over the insinuation that he had an affair with a lobbyist?
~~save your tea, dump congress~~
I think liberal's brains are wired backwards
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 20:03 ET by c5thenOr maybe they are made of anti-mater or something. They certainly use backwards logic...
North Korea and Iran do not have the right of free speech so those bloggers are likely violating the law, but that's OK because the libtards happen to agree with what is being said (unless it is in support of those governments presumably). Yet here in this country where we are guaranteed free speech, they want to institute some "checks and balances" to censor what is said and who can say it.
The first reaction of a liberal to speech that they disagree with is to try and censor the speaker. The first reaction of a conservative to speech that they disagree with is to create more speech and debate and argue with the speaker.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
Remember in November
Let's start rebuilding the Republic!
We Say Horrible Things?
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 20:38 ET by TenebrousI don't think that all the negative comments I've ever left add up to one single day of filth and lies pushed by CNN and the alphabet networks. And even if they did, those "professionals" have a 40 year head start on me, so I've got a lot of catching up to do; finally, this woman acts as though all comments are horrible, which of course, they're not. Where does she get her information from?
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"Democrats act as though they never completely got the Klan out of their system." -- me
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Anchor spawn
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:09 ET by nkviking75Since these two are engaged, we need a gatekeeper to prevent them from having sex in case they breed and produce a super-opinionated "journalist" spawn willing to sacrifice everyone's First Amendment rights but its own.
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
What the hell does she mean anonymous?
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:21 ET by DieselI know damn well these commies aren't talking about us!
We all have screen names here!
Hire bloggers to work at CNN
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 21:32 ET by rfpzzzzzHire bloggers to work at CNN if you want no one to hear from them again!
OMG
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 22:13 ET by ARAGORN2123Defamation lawsuit? Yo,Kyra/John, they are Sherrod's own words. She would have to sue herself, not Breitbart...duh.
On the contrary...
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 04:58 ET by JerSherrod clearly has gounds for a defamation suit against Breitbart. That's not to say it is a guaranteed winner, or that it is the wisest course for her to pursue. But an actionable claim? Absolutely.
And if I were Breitbart, I would currently be hunting for the best defense lawyer my money could buy.
Jer
jer, I am ROFLOL!!!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 05:02 ET by Liberalliesjer,
I am ROFLOL!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!! grounds for defamation Liberal tool, you aren't serious with this stupidity, are you? grounds for defamation...hahahahaha!!!!!
I am sure you called for Limbaugh to sue all the Liberals who lied about his supposed racist quotes, right? Liberals, such sad hypocrites and know-nothing individuals.
anyway....
so nothing on condemning the Journolist Liberal members, the White House and the NAACP with the same passion, hate and that use to condemn Breitbart, eh?
Much like Restless1 did, you have put focus on everthing else, but the FACt that you can't prove evidence that you have consistantly gone after Liberal hacks like you have gone after Breitbart.
That's ok, I know you needed Hydro to come to your rescue, but that is just like the blind leading the blind. HA!
Excuse me, idiot... I
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 05:07 ET by JerExcuse me, idiot...
I don't believe I was addressing you. How about running along now and proceed with your emotional meltdown somewhere else.
Jer
Jer, Oh no, what shall I
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 05:12 ET by LiberalliesJer,
Oh no, what shall I ever do now? you called me an idiot...arghhhh....LOL
anyway...
so nothing on condemning the Journolist Liberal members, the White House and the NAACP with the same passion, hate and that use to condemn Breitbart, eh?
Much like Restless1 did, you have put focus on everthing else, but the FACt that you can't prove evidence that you have consistantly gone after Liberal hacks like you have gone after Breitbart.
That's ok, I know you needed Hydro to come to your rescue, but that is just like the blind leading the blind. HA!
Don't you think you've worn
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 05:31 ET by JerDon't you think you've worn out the "blind leading the blind" parable? That's about your fifth repetition of the phrase tonight. Wait a minute. I almost forgot. Excessive repetitive behavior is sometimes symtomatic of idiocy. Carry on.
Jer
I see your only defence is still..........
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 07:54 ET by old croto call people names and denigrate them, nothings changed.
So.............. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is it that liberals
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 09:26 ET by goodspkrWhy is it that liberals seem to lean so heavily on name calling? Could it be that they don't have the ability to make a sensible argument?
But what I have discovered is that most liberals agree with Don Quixote when he said, "FACTS are the ENEMY of TRUTH."
goodspkr...
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:43 ET by JerA couple of points:
1. You'll notice that Liberallies referred to me as a "Liberal tool" in the post to which I first responded.
2. A bit of background: Liberallies has been demanding that I provide extensive information culled from hundreds of my posts over a three-year period. I very cordially informed him that I would do so in a few days after my injured hand heals and I can type at a reasonable speed again. I advised him of same both on the main board and via PM. He has responded by running from thread to thread accusing me of lying and other devious behavior. Nevertheless, I continued to be civil, but I finally realized it was useless. He is not interested in civility. So, I would suggest you address any further name-calling inquiries to him.
Jer
goodspker and old
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:43 ET by hydrodynDMgoodspker and old cro,
I'm gonna have to back jer up on this one. Liberallies had a meltdown last night in this post, calling jer, me, RESTLESS 1 and even Candance names like idiot and moron and accusing all of us of being "faux conservatives".
jer's use of "idiot" was obviously in the context of that other discussion.
Liberallies has a screw loose and deserves to be treated far worse than jer did here.
hydro...
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:47 ET by JerThank you
Jer
→ Wow, Jer
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:51 ET by Cool ArrowAdmit it. It was fun, wasn't it?
Not that I have any experience at getting futbol bent out of shape.
Cool...
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 15:00 ET by JerI would say a mixture of pleasure and pity. And, in the end, mostly the latter.
Jer
:) "If the man, with the
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 23:22 ET by RESTLESS 1:)
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
Come to think of it, Cool,
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 23:24 ET by RESTLESS 1You may have been the one to drive that last nail in Fut's sanity. You or Trach. I can never remember which. ;)
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
Jer, No problem. I
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:51 ET by hydrodynDMJer,
No problem.
I think it's pretty telling when someone like Liberallies can be such a butt-hole that folks who normally don't agree on much can all agree on what a tool he is.
Oh - sorry for typing "jer" instead of "Jer" - was going to correct it but...
old cro...Please note
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:42 ET by Jerold cro...
Please note my response to goodspkr above. You're correct, however. Nothing's changed. I still do not initiate name-calling.
Thanks.
Jer
Errrr, jer, so posting a
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 09:20 ET by goodspkrErrrr, jer, so posting a video of a person and letting their own words out is "defamation." LOL. Only in liberaland would anyone say something like this.
If she has a legal case it would be against the government. And if this administration had anyone with a lick of sense in it, they wouldn't have fired her like they did. They would have suspended her while they looked into the situation.
goodspkr...It might be helpful
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:38 ET by JerIt might be helpful for you to do a bit of research on defamation claims before making silly statements like those in your opening paragraph and the first sentence of your second paragraph.
However, I agree wholeheartedly with your closing remarks about the administration's boneheaded and hamhanded reaction.
Jer
Jer---
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 18:57 ET by matthewdeanI must side with you reference the Liberallies show.
So that siding with you does not become a habit, I would say that as a lawyer, you would undoubtedly say that a church pew could file a defamation suit against someone who loudly farted during the Sunday sermon while sitting on said pew.
How in the world can you bring up Sherrod bringing a defamation suit against Breitbart, and not point out the reverse situation, considering what she said about him on national television?
Is it because you are a liberal, on the liberal bandwagon, trying to deflect heat from Sherrod by making it all about Breitbart?
As I said in another post, Breitbart may retain some stink from this mess because of his actions, but Sherrod will retain the stench of racism because of her stated beliefs.
MD
Wait a minute...
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 23:11 ET by MoYoIf they got rid of bloggers from whom would CNN get their news?
Sadly, in a media world full of rubes posing as professionals, Kyra Phillips actually has a degree in journalism, and having been trained in media ethics and founders' intent, she should know better.
Mo Yo
Fri, 07/23/2010 - 23:36 ET by RESTLESS 1You assume that journalism classes teach about ethics, being unbiased, the the five "W's", anymore. They don't. They teach Idealogy.
By the way, welcome to NB. I'm sure you'll find the water just right.
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
Er
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 13:06 ET by MoYoSince I earned a degree in journalism, and completed the required media ethics and law classes, I can attest to the fact that you probably can't get a degree without some exposure to the subject matter. I know I had to stay awake in those classes. While it is true that I was subjected to the typical, academic brand of cliche leftest ideology, my com classes tended to be more libertarian in flavor while my required lit classes were the ones full of commies. I remember this one English department head who actually fancied himself as a Bill-Clinton-in-a-beard-and-surplus-field-jacket lookalike ... a kind of Che Clintonista, if you will.
My bottom line is this: if you are going to act like an elite journo-type and engage in the profession the VERY LEAST you can do is have your papers.
A little self-regulation in the business would go a long, long way to clean up the mess.
Thanks for the welcome!
2 words for CNN
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 01:43 ET by Carl KolchakOperation Tailwind.
"Well I got nothing against the press. They wouldn't print it if it wasn't true" 'Sunday Papers'
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1998/0727/6202048a.html
Good link
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 02:14 ET by QMCSHow the heck did you ever find this?
I knew there was a reason i liked this site :)
CNN seems to be building
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 02:22 ET by Carl KolchakCNN seems to be building themselves up like perfect angels, and here is a story where Vietnam Vets used the internet and stood up against CNN. My dad is a Vietnam Vet and most of my friends dads growing up were Vietnam Vets. Negative stereotypes against Vietnam Vets upsets me, so I remember stories of the media attacking Vietnam Vets.
Hey Carl... Thanks so
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 04:15 ET by bigtimerHey Carl...
Thanks so much, that link/info is priceless to me, will be using that elsewhere too...as usual, you taught me something, much appreciated...just closing up for the night, thought I'd check in here real quick, glad I did.
Take care old friend~ catch ya when I catch ya next.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Carl, Tailwind is why I will never watch CNN.
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 08:38 ET by acaiguanaThank you for citing this.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Censoring bloggers is censoring free speech!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 03:50 ET by Amerikan PatriotThat figures that Liberals would come up with an asinine suggestion like that? That's par for the course with these Socialist sociopaths who already control the propaganda issued forth from the alphabet networks which is biased to the extreme Left and couldn't really be called news anymore! The freedom of expression the internet allows irks them to no end because they can't control it and much of it is politically Conservative or Independent which of course in Libworld can't be allowed and anybody who should dare speak against the "Enlightened" and "Dear Leader" must be censored first then arbitrarily punished either monetarily and/or imprisoned just like in other Socialist/Communist countries like China or Cuba for example! The Sherrod incident is merely being used as a smokescreen for the real agenda which is to censor any opposition to the Lib/Socialist powers that be! This is typical Leftist Liberal strategy to create or convert a "crisis" which serves their ultimate goal which is retention of power and riches via Liberal Socialism! The truth is relative with a Liberal, their playbook says it best. "we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have." Schneider concluded "each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."? If you engage a Liberal in conversation, be prepared for a series of vituperative cheap shots, half-truths or NO-truths and ad hominem attacks! When confronted with inconvenient facts, most Liberals just resort to shouting and/or a plethora of obscenities! Socialist fear-mongers are so tiresome because they predict and expect the worst- about the economy, the war, the next election, the weather, and everything else! Their "solutions" always involve an Extremist Liberal persona non grata, who is pro- Socialist/Communist, bigger, stronger, more expensive, more intrusive and controlling government along with stratospheric taxes! No truly free government representative of the people or ethical political group fears freedom of expression whether pro or con since this is what being free is all about and the anonymous nature of the internet in this framework allows a completely free flow of ideas and opinions without censure or fear of retribution as is the case in places like Iran or North Korea where you cannot freely express any opinion critical of the government or it's entities without fear of imprisonment or even death! Any "gatekeeper" which is Libspeak for censorship is not what a free Republic is about and smacks of political interference for the purpose of silencing political opposition for nefarious purposes! Blame not the bloggers for thine own faults Liberals!
Lawsuit for what?.....she did actually say it.....
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 10:56 ET by nonncomObama and his nervous nellies are the problem, not some blogger....they showed their true colors regarding loyalty to people on staffs....they didn't even talk to the woman before demanding her resignation.....shameful....if that pansy Roberts wants to zero in on something, there's his target....I think we all know Phillips has no credibility anyway....and CNN wonders why they are losing to FNC....
Let's Get Rid of CNN While We're At It
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 12:17 ET by Andrew1431Someone tell pretty boy John Roberts to go back to Canada and do what he does best. Introduce music videos. What a jerk.
"Imagine what would have
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 13:05 ET by bgnjoe"Imagine what would have happened if we hadn't taken a look at what
happened with Shirley Sherrod and plumbed the depths further and found
out that what had been posted on the internet was not in fact reflective
of what she said."
LMAO. Imagine what would have happened if they hadn't taken a look at all of the "out of context" quotes by conservatives over the years. Oh yeah, "they" haven't. Also, I work for the government (FAA) and am a white male. If I had given a similar speech and told a story about how, when it came time to help a black person that, for example, worked for me, I was hesitant and decided first to send them to "one of their own", I would have been fired. It wouldn't matter that the statement might of been taken "out of context" and that I had gone on to say that I realized I was wrong and helped the black person. The only "context" that would have been required to get my butt kicked out would have been to say "one of their own" or even state that race entered my mind when making a decision.
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 13:49 ET by jessieHWow! The media is scared to death of us! It's no wonder, the way they report/ don't report the news. They are dead but their small brains haven't recieved the signal. They will never control the internet. Iran tried to control the internet, but the stories still got out. I guess CNN wants to be like Iran.
SO true!
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 21:06 ET by NewHampshireCan you say JOURNOLIST?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andy Breitbart derailed the "TeaParty is Racist" Show
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 14:10 ET by DaMavthat the media was putting on and turned it into chaos. No wonder they hate him.
If anyone should sue anyone for 'defamation' it should be Breitbart suing Sharrod for claiming on national TV that he wants to bring slavery back.
Andy Breitbart is the Audie Murphy of conservatism in the media wars today. A hero.
CNN Host Calls For Crackdown on Bloggers...
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 16:09 ET by CliffACliffA
But these very host want to be able to report an anonymous story any time they want. And noone better try to keep them from their constitutionally protected freedom.
Here it Comes
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 16:48 ET by TeddyBeck has warned about this being the final column left in the Obama administration's trying to seize total power. They own Healthcare and the Financial, so a Free Press is all that's left for them To gain control of now, and here comes CNN to fire the first Censorship shot w/just One of its resident Lank Thompson-types, talking about how check and balances would Benefit "anonymous bloggers" on Newbusters, or HotAir, etc.? Teddy WHO!?
But when it comes to a society like ours, an open society, do there have to be some checks and balances, not national, but maybe website to website on who comments on things?"
That's why Media Matters Exists, JR! They're the Left's Thought and Word Gestapo with a spooky lil' jingle Fade out. See! Them Fascist, RACIST Republicans is Comin' To Git Ya'!
So we're Already on our Way to becoming a fascist state and CNN Clearly wants to be Obama's Network of Record if that ever becomes Official. Ya' know, the Teacher's Pet thing? As You seem to believe that the Newsbusters Staff evidently Can't Police Their Own SITE!
HOPE We've Pleased You Here at CNN though, Chairman Obama. Kisses.
Ps. Lank Thompson. The short version, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvzoUJ5gxoc for those who are too young to have known the SNL character, and those who may have forgotten him.
Or, just see Matt, Ricky, John Roberts, Keith - in his own Mind, Larry O', Rachel, et al.
CNN Gestapo?
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 18:28 ET by lareeWhat part of the First Amendment offends them the most? Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression?
First they came for the bloggers...these two really are dullards, this is what passes for serious commentary on CNN, that explains these ratings.
America, The Home Of the BRAVE and the Land of the FREE.
Why don't they just move CNN to Canada?
dangerous slope towards censorship.
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 19:37 ET by MutantoneIt is just the first steps in limiting
and then eliminating blog's from speaking out against the
administrations' views. The communist did it the socialist regime's
are doing it. And now the Obamaommunist want to do it. Mark my words
they are trumping up the issue to quite dissenting voices. We have
already seen sights closed because of one Blogger's message. This is
the goal to silence people that speak out, under any pretense they
choose at that time it is a dangerous slope towards censorship.
Then they'll want our
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 20:01 ET by vietvet68Then they'll want our guns! They want a Civil War and if they keep it up, they will get it!!!
Hypocrite
Sat, 07/24/2010 - 22:04 ET by justbob223I don't suppose this idiot has ever heard of the First Amendment?
CNN wackjobs
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 21:00 ET by SFCMAC"There's going to have be a point in time where these people have to be held accountable," Phillips said. "How about all these bloggers that blog anonymously? They say rotten things about people and they're actually given credibility, which is crazy."
Giving credibilty to a leftwing ideologue masquerading as a "reporter", is crazy.