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Will Media's Obama Iraq Trip Benefit Him?Yes, for a while 32% (1006 votes) Yes, until the election 11% (356 votes) No, people aren't paying attention at this point yet 8% (264 votes) No, it is just highlighting his ignorance of foreign policy 48% (1523 votes) Total votes: 3149 |
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The power of the mainstream
July 23, 2008 - 15:49 ET by liberal_bug_zapperThe power of the mainstream media frightens me. Their power to influence voters is bad for this country. With their unprecedented access to the public, there isn't any way at this moment to fight them. If they want, they can get whoever they want into office and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it. Our freedom is now dead as far as I am concerned. This season has proven to me once and for all that not only is there a media bias, but their disinformation campaign and diseducation campaign they’ve waged for the last 20 years has taken our youth from us and turned them into socialist zombies. What comes out of University today, and for the last 15 years or so is such a waste of space that we’ll be hard pressed to ever win in this country again without being socialist lite. True Milton Friedman conservatism (liberalism) cannot win any longer, because the youth of today are mostly mush brain socialists programmed by the left.
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"A society that puts equality...ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom." ~ Milton Friedman
i agree fully.
July 23, 2008 - 16:01 ET by abeautifulpersonits what happens when parents leave TV and a gutted educational system to raise their children, while they work extra hours to pay for the good things in life.
mainstream media put the people onboard for the illegal war which is iraq and now it has swung the other way to put a modestly experienced senator in the white house.
people want to get behind a winner so they can say they were there. this is what is happening.
now you know what real social democrats feel all the time. whether you agree with it or not, excluding the fiscally responsible green party from debates is just another example of the problem. you don't have to like the green party, but at least allow them time to present their platform. the media doesn't even allow that. i think many would be shocked at how non-radical the green party is, if they were given the opportunity to have access to the airwaves.
and if you are thinking, "we don't need to give those socialist freaks any airtime", they YOU are part of the problem. cuz i never suggested you vote for them, just listen. and when people aren't interested in even that, it is proof of the mess of american politics.
don't think so? watch obama walk into the white house. i'd LOVE to see him debate the leader of the green party and so would you. it would certainly take the shine off his halo.
beauty I halfway agree
July 23, 2008 - 16:11 ET by candanceits what happens when parents leave TV and a gutted educational system to raise their children
Can you blame them? The government and the media have succeeded in convincing them that public schools are the best place for their kids - home schoolers are weird and private schools are for snobs. These kids are then trapped in a building where they're pressured to take birth control, belittled for believing in intelligent design, and punished for arguing back about global warming.
mainstream media put the people onboard for the illegal war
Really? The MSM supported the war? That's a joke if I ever heard one.
but at least allow them time to present their platform
You're preaching at the choir here. We hate the two party system as much as you do.
You're preaching at the
July 23, 2008 - 16:48 ET by Dan The Man 2You're preaching at the choir here. We hate the two party system as much as you do. Candace you really need to understand why the two party system is so prevalent in the US. It is all about consoldation of power. There is still diverse opinion but the voting block is large. The law does not prohibit more parties it is the quest for controlling interest.
It has been true forever and is part of human nature. Even in the countries that have more fractured political parties what happens is the parties form bigger voting blocks and therefore mor power to shape the laws. In fact most of teh bicameral systems have many parties because tehy must form power blocks later on. Our system of the people voting for leader IMO further spurs a two party system.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
the education system has been broken for a while...
July 23, 2008 - 22:58 ET by abeautifulperson... and everyone knows it. i think you'd have to flip quite a few rocks to chance upon people who think the educational system is taking care of business.
(i keep thinking of that sad beauty pageant contestant's answer about 'the iraq' and americans not having a map).
private schools aren't the answer either. public schools are working in canada. i know. i know. canada is a cesspool of commie ideology... but the kids are learning. and although its not hard to find complaining canadians, most are satisfied with the educational system.
living in a country (not US or canada) i am personally experiencing what its like to have equal amounts of private and public schools and its not working out.
private schools have sucked the top half of the student population. and since people pay for their education, the bottom half has no money. they look like prisons, because they are. when students perform poorly, private schools dump them into the public sector, causing a serious ghetto of poor students.
"so what?" you might say. "i need to take care of MY kids, so the dual system works for me".
in the short run, that is true. but what is happening is there is such a disparity in grades, quality of education and opportunities, that an underclass is being perpetuated. still don't know how this affects you? not that its fair that you should have to consider others, but the reality is, the two groups have to live together. and while one shouldn't have to suffer the lousy upbringing of another person's kid, that person's kid is going to be the one that breaks into your home, steals your car or shoots you for your pocket change. and in the end, it costs a lot more to incarcerate them than it does to educate them, if the majority of people are on board.
prior to my recent departure from my middle/upper class, diversed neighbourhood in downtown toronto, education was discussed amongst us new parents. and the consensus was, if good parents stuck to the public school system AND participated (money alone doesn't make a good system), it will be successful.
There are indeed many
July 24, 2008 - 08:38 ET by HermanoThere are indeed many problems associated with the educational system in this country. One of the biggest is the unions. How can we expect to get the students taught when the teachers are protected from termination. I have met many who would not be able to pass even a basic skills test for high schoolers. Between this and curricula that no longer include the 3 Rs, it is easy to see why we are in this state. It didn't take us overnight to get into this situation, and unfortunately, we won't be able to get out of it overnight.
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
its not about unions, its about compensation
July 24, 2008 - 12:01 ET by abeautifulpersonhere are the 2008 stats for average teacher salaries in the U.S.http://www.payscale.com/research/US/All_K-12_Teachers/Salary here are the 2008 stats for average elementary school teacher salaries in Canada.http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Job=Elementary_School_Teacher/Salary
let's compare: CDN elementary school teacher makes $6299 (16%) MORE than their US counterpart. CDN high school teacher makes $8013 (19%) MORE than their US counterpart. CDN middle school teacher makes $11064 (27%) MORE than their US counterpart. drop-out rate in 2002:CDA: 10.9%USA: 12.3%
canadian teachers are unionized, so it can't be because of that. i think it really comes down to how well paid, and therefore how important teachers are considered in the society as a whole. its like anything, pay people better and you get a better crop of people. its priorities.
If you can't clean the crap
July 24, 2008 - 12:31 ET by HermanoIf you can't clean the crap out of your toilet, you will always have stains. I agree if you pay people better, there will be a better pool to choose from. It would be an interesting experiment to determine how pay for teachers in the US relates to student success. Is there a good correlation between pay and results, state by state?
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
APB, do you know how
July 24, 2008 - 15:56 ET by Dan The Man 2APB, do you know how the school systems in the USA work? They are localy based and funded. They also vary on teh student pool, and in any time in teh US ther have been those at the bottom and those at the top. The school systems used to recognize this and provided programs for all the kids who wanted to go to school.
So one of teh major problems is we are not teaching teh kids who want to learn. We are also teaching too much socialist claptrap. If we go back to teh reading writing qand arithmitic we will turn out better citizens. We also need to include programs for those who do not want to go to college, technical training.
Americans have gotten this owe me mentality from too many government programs and teh government saying that it owes you. Sorta like teh message Obama is spouting.
I dont think it is a salary problem as much as teh BS and saftey issues and lack of discipline taht teachers have to put up with. One reason private schools are so successful is because of teh rigid discipline and ability to make thier own curriculum. They dont have to teach sex education or any of the myriad other socila program disasters.
My sister in law teaches at a private school for less money than she would get at a public one and there are many who also teach at her school who went public and then back to private. She and they make less money with fewer benifits but would not go back because public school is going to teh dogs.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
liberal bug zapper
July 23, 2008 - 22:21 ET by shawn228"Our freedom is now dead as far as I am concerned"
Curious on what you mean by this? What does the msm or freedom of the press have to do with our freedom?
Also it is your opinion that our youth are being turned into socialist zombies, sometimes there is required reading, but outside of school, nobody is forcing them to watch or do anything that impedes on their freedom and they can think for themselves.
Maybe if our country was in better shape, our dollar worth more and we did not have a 9.5 trillion dollar national debt, they would not be so hopeful of a Obama Presidency.
Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it
It shouldn't, but it will.
July 23, 2008 - 15:53 ET by Indiana JoeIt will somewhat innoculate him (among his followers) from the "no experience" charge. And I foresee a "more up-to-date" argument, since Obama made his trip more recently. It will be argued that he's more familiar with the "current" situation. Overlooked will be his tacit flipping on the validity and success of "surges."
Obama's refuseal to admit
July 23, 2008 - 15:55 ET by bassndudeObama's refusal to admit that the surge worked in Iraq is demonstrating to the world, and I think to some of the MSM types, that he is not capable of admiting he was wrong. Someone that will not admit that they made a mistake and were wrong on such an obvious point, is bound to lose some support. His arrogance abounds in all areas.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I remember 2004
July 23, 2008 - 16:36 ET by Big WallyJFnK was also incapable of admitting when he was wrong. The media shilled for him just as bad as now. He lost by the biggest margin ever in popular votes.
Electoral vs. popular.
July 23, 2008 - 19:36 ET by FoolicanBe careful with statements like that. Liberals are quick to point out that Bush didn't win by the popular vote in 2000, and that only by a Supreme Court decision - Bush v. Gore - was his victory legitimate. I do not disagree with the concept that electoral votes, not popular votes, should be the deciding factor in elections, but there are some arguments that should remain taboo.
This "but there are some
July 23, 2008 - 21:13 ET by Dan The Man 2This "but there are some arguments that should remain taboo" is wrong because we should examine ourselves and others thoroughly. No argument should be taboo. We need only look across the pond and see the taboo's the Europeans have on free speech because they think such should be off limits.
One cannot refute the holocaust or proclaim Nazi ideas or they will put you in jail. It is illegal to do so in most European countries. Just think if the idea of using the N word and all discussion was forbidden and punishable by law.
BTW I really want to use the full word because we should say what we mean. Everyone knows what I mean so what problem is it to go the distance?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Bass....I was really shocked that.....
July 23, 2008 - 19:38 ET by BEGRUNTCouric pressed him on the surge to the point of annoyance on his part. He truly is an arrogant ba$ta*d. He will never admit to a mistake, nor admit he is wrong....arrogance in the purest form!!
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
Obama's overseas trip
July 23, 2008 - 22:13 ET by shawn228It seems to me judging by the results of the poll, that people are voting with their own personal opinion.
The question is will Iraq trip benefit him. I believe it will. He can say he went overseas and talked to the leaders and twist it in a way that the Iraqi President agrees with his pullout plan and he has consulted with the leaders and troops.
It might be the msm twisting the story, but it sure seemed to me that many troops were very happy to see him.
The biggest hurdle is to come up with a clever way to eat crow about saying the surge would not work.
Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it
it sure seemed to me that
July 24, 2008 - 15:59 ET by Dan The Man 2it sure seemed to me that many troops were very happy to see him. And how many is that? 160K?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Staged events are easy
July 24, 2008 - 16:06 ET by expatriotShawn,
Staged events are easy, especially when dealing with the military. The CODEL makes a request to have troops available and the unit provides them. Add in the selective posting of photos and it could look like he is beloved by all. As a troop who is around troops, not true.
→ Highlighting his ignorance?
July 24, 2008 - 08:11 ET by Cool ArrowOf course it highlights his ignorance, but what does that have to do with whether the trip will benefit him through the election.
In order for the American public to even notice Obama's ignorance a crash course in listening would be necessary.
This is a VISUAL election. The photo-op is far more compelling to this generation. The television was their babysitter during their formative years.
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No media support like this since Hitler
July 24, 2008 - 13:33 ET by libliebusterHow appropriate is it that there hasn't been a speaker with such screaming crowds of people so blatantly supported by the propoganda machines disguised as news media since Adolph himself. How further appropriate that Obamassiah is speaking at the very place that gave rise to Hitler?
Hitler showed what happens when a leader of a powerful country has the press shilling for him. That's probably why Hamas and other anti-semitic terrorist groups support Barak Hussein. They're hoping for a completion of the "final solution".
Silly Questions.
July 24, 2008 - 22:12 ET by Abe_JeffersonI understand the NB questions are a lot like the NB site and comment section. They serve to reinforce the beliefs and opinions of the staff and users. Often, no doubt to overcome the insecurity and fears of, at least a number of staff/users. Often, no doubt to exploit the insecurities and fears of some. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out the results beforehand, even if the questions weren't so loaded.
Let me borrow from Colbert to suggest a question.--
George W. Bush --
Greatest President ever?
Best President ever?
Only President ever?
what Abe?
July 24, 2008 - 23:55 ET by candanceDude you need to do some more reading around NB and get a clue. Half the people here complain about Bush and no one thinks he's the best president in history.
Uh oh - I'm making you start to doubt that conservatives all think exactly alike. Better run to YouTube and get a dose of Colbert to set things straight.
So, candance...which does one choose
July 25, 2008 - 00:25 ET by JerWhich does one choose if he or she believes the trip will be of lasting benefit to Obama whether or not he becomes President.
I think Abe's point is that all of the pro-Obama options were of the "do you still beat your wife" variety.
Jer
okay Jer
July 25, 2008 - 01:11 ET by candanceMaybe you and him share some telepathic liberal thing, I dunno. I'll take your word for it.
:)
candance
July 25, 2008 - 00:36 ET by MrShy"...and no one thinks he's the best president in history."
Um..... hey!!
At least of the five that I'm old enough to really remember, he's my fave. I guess Reagan was a stud, but I didn't care much for politics then.
I really love Bush. I do. What's funny -- and a bit scary, even -- is that the MSM has so successfully engineered a climate that makes any Bush-is-good talk taboo, that I'm even a bit nervous saying this on a conservative site!
(Man, how crazy is that?...)
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
c'mon Shy
July 25, 2008 - 01:15 ET by candanceBush is cool, don't get me wrong, but I don't see him as the greatest in our history. My list would go something like this:
1)George Washington
2)Ronald Reagan
3)John Adams
4)Teddy Roosevelt
um...
I'm too lazy to compile the rest, but Bush would prolly be in the top ten simply for stopping Al Qaeda.
candance
July 25, 2008 - 01:28 ET by MrShy"I'm too lazy to compile the rest, but Bush would prolly be in the top ten simply for stopping Al Qaeda."
Well, there ya go.
Being from NYC, that puts him in my Top 1 :)
For weeks after 9/11, I was stunned, and really scared, too. It was sickening, going to the park nearby and sometimes smelling a stench I'd never smelled, and watching trucks slowly move up the highway with endless tons of debris.
I'm so grateful that it was him at the wheels to deal with this. I shudder to think what Gore would have done in a post-9/11 world.
Again, Reagan seemed cool w/ his cool hair and John Wayne persona, but I just didn't give much thought to any of it back then, and growing up here I was taught that he and Republicans were "them" -- the bad guys.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
lol Shy
July 25, 2008 - 01:34 ET by candanceI guess if I was from NY the WOT would have a special place in my heart as well. That's totally understandable.
My parents were also hardcore Dems who told me Reagan was a jerk. But since my conversion I've studied a lot about him, and trust me there is a reason so many people venerate him. Do some reading on him when you get the chance.