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Will Lefties Ever Have a Radio Host as Popular as Rush Limbaugh?Yes, eventually 1% (59 votes) No, NPR fragments their audience base 12% (526 votes) No, lefties just can't do political talk 82% (3591 votes) Unsure 1% (59 votes) Other (leave comment) 3% (144 votes) Total votes: 4379
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No, the liberal audience
August 1, 2008 - 21:58 ET by hungarianfalconhas too many established, conventional sources to go (well beyond PBS). Liberals in general also tend to be single issue voters, too.
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Fantasyland
August 1, 2008 - 22:05 ET by dboNo, lefties can't do political talk. Who wants to sit around listening to an ideology based on lies. There's a reason the left wants to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.
No. Who the heck wants to
August 1, 2008 - 22:07 ET by BlazerNo. Who the heck wants to drive around with tears in their eyes all day long, told America sucks , we're the bad guys and we will never amount to anything. Thats why "Scare America" doesn't work and never will. It's like listening to an abusive step-father.
Heck noones buying the deadtree liberal rags or watching their tripe on television anymore either. The MSM is fastly going the way of the "Passenger Pidgeon".
You tell me, stock market graph, or roller coaster ride, look out for that last hill it's a doozy.
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"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Ignorance breeds ignorance
August 1, 2008 - 22:07 ET by wdhorningCutting through the BS, lefties make far too many irrational arguments to be successful in talk radio (TV, editorials, etc). This is not to say Rush is perfect either. While Rush may be far right, most lefties sound literally insame with respect to their arguments. For example, in order to attack Bush, they have to make arguments that are borderline traitorous, outright slander and libel, crimminal hate speech, or just outright ignorant.
Most lefties (but not all) require pictures, graphs, charts...
August 1, 2008 - 22:25 ET by R D Helm...as well as other visual aides, such as "Connect the Dots," "Paint by Numbers," or whatever their government-agent teachers forced them to be indoctrinated to.
As for radio hosts, Neal Boortz blows Rush Limbaugh straight off the planet. Too bad Limbaugh has been such a sellout to the "repubelican left", as he did not start out that way all those years ago.
Those of you here at NB who truly "get it" will require no further information here.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
R D Helm wrote
August 4, 2008 - 01:26 ET by Rush Fan"Too bad Limbaugh has been such a sellout to the "repubelican left", as he did not start out that way all those years ago.
Those of you here at NB who truly "get it" will require no further information here."
I don't "get it". Perhaps you can provide me and others who may not "get it" with your additional perspective on why you believe Rush is a "sellout".
P.S. I am a fan of Neal Boortz as well.
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"You're like family. You all are really the ones that are responsible for it as a result of your listenership and patronage of the program and that will never, ever be something I take for granted. I do not take it for granted every day." ~ Rush Limbaugh on his dedicated listeners
Sorry, Rush Fan, but Limbaugh sold out a long time ago.
August 4, 2008 - 19:30 ET by R D HelmYou should know that I began listening to his show the very first day it went national. I rarely missed a broadcast up until about three years into George W. Bush's presidency.
I got tired of Rush being the water-carrier for a party that had gone rogue, which the republicans did during the late nineties. This was very un-Rush like, as I vividly remember he once ripped them when they went astray.
By the time he admitted the error of his ways (which was the day after the last mid-term election) I had had enough.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
R. D. Helm
August 5, 2008 - 00:55 ET by Rush FanThank you for replying and sharing your opinions. It appears you have been listening to Rush much longer than I have, so I value your perspective.
When you state a Republican Party that has gone rogue, I believe you have in mind that many of the current Republican Party members of Congress have lost (if they ever had them) or are not practicing conservative core principles. If that’s what you are saying, I could not agree with you more, and Rush Limbaugh, at least in recent years, has conveyed his unhappiness and frustration with the direction of the Republican members of Congress. He certainly was not happy when RINO John McCain became our party’s nominee. But now that our choice is McCain or Obama, Rush believes, as many of us conservatives do, that McCain is the better of two bad choices.
Rush seems to communicate his frustration with the party’s direction in a more subtle rather than overt way. Perhaps he has softened his approach over the years, as you indicated. If so, I would like to see that old Rush from time to time. He certainly is no Mark Levin or Michael Savage. Since I have been listening to him much of his focus has been on the dangerous ideas and values of the liberal left, rather than the deficiencies in his own party. Perhaps he believes that if he can persuade enough listeners of the importance and advantages of conservative principles, they will take the next step and vote for more conservative candidates. During the election season, with such a large audience, he is probably more careful not to criticize his party for fear of electing more liberals.
Those are my thoughts. Thanks again for your reply.
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No, most lefties just can't do political talk
August 1, 2008 - 22:26 ET by CobraManNo, most lefties just can't do political talk. All they seem do is slander and demean anyone who oppose them and their ideals. They have no real substance to their shows, it's nothing more than verbose outbursts and emotional appeals.
NPR does attempt offer a bit of logical debate, but it's so one-sided that it actually defies logic to call it a debate. It's more of an affirmative argument than an actual debate.
NO, who could possably
August 1, 2008 - 22:27 ET by general companyNO, who could possably listen to that BS. I cant hardly stand to read some of what the liberals post here at NB. There is nothing more aggrivating then trying to do "anything" with folks that have no common sense.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I doubt it but that
August 1, 2008 - 22:31 ET by ROTORHEAD77I doubt it but that chucklehead Ed Schultz has a guaranteed audience of 10's of thousands on the Armed Forces Radio and Television Services in the Pacific. They force-feed that garbage to us from 1800-1900 here in Japan. Why that lard-arse gets the coveted evening commute time slot beats me. Rush doesn't come on until the 2000-2100 slot.
I bet the Deamoncats whined enough to get it scheduled that way. It is obviously a "Fairness Doctrine" pre-curser. God help us all!
FLY ARMY!
Rotorhead...
August 1, 2008 - 22:37 ET by Clear thinkerThe brainwashing continues.
And people wonder why I don't trust liberals!
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No
August 1, 2008 - 22:35 ET by serfer62All the sputtering, spittle flying, vocal rage, incoherant sentace structure and constant repetition of "Bush lied. People..." would rust the equipment faster the Soros could replace it.
I seldom get a chance to ask libs why that hate the President so much but its painful...we wet
Yes. Lefties can't do
August 1, 2008 - 22:35 ET by SimpaticoYes. Lefties can't do political talk, but we still have Obama, don't we?
With popularity, the pendulum will swing the other direction later.
The good news is that it keeps swinging.
to much stratification
August 1, 2008 - 22:35 ET by TjexciteWith the left there is to much stratification on everything and focus on single issues for the said group. Prime example is when Cindy Sheehan attack the dems. They have the same some what ideology, yet can't meet as the dems do not go far enough for some moonbats. No Radio star will satisfy all of them to get the popular size of Rush. Some will have there niche though
As if....
August 1, 2008 - 22:52 ET by Dagny TaggartDefinitely not. In an effort to garner an audience, and attempt to satisfy the nutroot factor, they'll tear each other apart for not being 'progressive' enough, or not being in lockstep with the Dems talking points.
If there becomes a need,
August 1, 2008 - 23:07 ET by balboaIf there becomes a need, there will be one. This is not something the right has some magical claim to.
I will agree it's harder to have a liberal who appeals to everyone, but that's the mistake I think most of Air America has made: trying to appeal to everyone, instead of being a sensible, moderate, and not some '60s throwback to radicalism.
Summed up in first line
August 2, 2008 - 20:22 ET by FastEd"If there becomes a need - -", with the majors spouting the left view, there is no 'need' for radio to mirror what is being shown on tv. Using your statement as a starting point, there is no need, plus, it seems people WANT to hear opposing views, and they seem to know when there is one view being presented, all the time, and they instictively look for another view.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
There are too many factors
August 1, 2008 - 23:08 ET by mattmThere are too many factors working against the possibility. Rush is a unique talent. Then there's the fact that the Libs have the rest of the media cornered. Plus, hand-wringing, doom and gloom and snobbish cynicism don't go over very well in radio.
Limbaugh's popularity
August 1, 2008 - 23:14 ET by JerSometime during the mid-90's, after years of listening to relentless liberal bashing on conservative talk radio [there was no other option for one regularly tuning in to the AM "News" stations], I asked my brother-in-law why he thought liberals couldn't develop similar audiences. His response was that "liberals are too nice".
Not saying he's correct...just his opinion, but he's a pretty smart guy.
Personally, I think a major factor is that the Limbaugh et al demographic contains a greater per centage of political "junkies"--and I mean that as a compliment.
Jer
"Liberals are too nice"
August 1, 2008 - 23:26 ET by shawn228Jer, I don't want to say anything about your brother in law, but liberals are not nice. A few years ago, when they introduced Air American to the San Francisco Bay Area. I actually gave them a shot.
Randi Rhodes is an extremely angry and bitter person, same with Sam Sedar. Randi Rhodes and Sean Hannity come on at the same time where i'm at and Hannity is by far the nicer one.
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Liberals nice????
August 1, 2008 - 23:39 ET by Clear thinkerA couple of years ago I attended an anti-war rally in downtown Asheville NC. I stood across the street holding a sign saying "I support the troops". I had numerous peace-niks walk across the street to tell me what filthy garbage I was. I even had one guy threaten to kill me.
Nice people my ass!
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Sad and shocking, Clear...
August 1, 2008 - 23:53 ET by JerSad and shocking, Clear...From the "Oh, yeah?" files: I know of incidents years ago where guys were threatened by southern good-ole-boys with serious ass-kickings for having long hair.
Not so nice, either.
Jer
Jer...
August 2, 2008 - 00:00 ET by Clear thinkerThose good-ol-boys were Democrats!
I know because I live in a Southern County where long haired types used to disappear while traveling through our county.
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Clear... Those
August 2, 2008 - 00:04 ET by JerClear...
Those good-ole-boy Democrats were also conservatives.
Jer
No Jer...
August 2, 2008 - 00:07 ET by Clear thinkerThey were ignorant murderers!
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delete double
August 2, 2008 - 00:49 ET by mastersofdeceitdelete double
I rmemer too, Jer
August 2, 2008 - 00:01 ET by Cool ArrowAnd as one of those who was threatened and beaten for long hair, I demand reparations.
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Reparations? Just think
August 2, 2008 - 00:11 ET by JerReparations? Just think of all that money you saved on hair cuts.
Jer
Just go there, Jer
August 2, 2008 - 00:25 ET by Cool ArrowYou realize you just told a variation of the Clayton Williams gaffe that ended his campaign against Ann Richards?
Is this your way of saying there was nothing wrong with Williams' little joke?
Is it possible I still harbor some ill will and desire for revenge for that haircut? Might I have chuckled a bit when I heard the SOB died in a bar fight?
Are you making light of what might have been a traumatic event way back in 1969?
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Haircut followp
August 2, 2008 - 00:29 ET by Cool ArrowWhimper, sniff sniff.
bwahahaha
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You're comparing a hair cut
August 2, 2008 - 00:40 ET by JerYou're comparing a hair cut to sexual assault?
By the way, I'm still traumatized over the memory of Guard sergeants in 1969 threatening to activate me if my hair touched my ears or my collar.
Jer
Jer
August 2, 2008 - 00:49 ET by Cool ArrowBeing held down by three boys while another cuts my hair with a pocket knife? And another ten kids looking on?
Yeah, I see a comparison. What's your point?
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Being held down by three
August 2, 2008 - 00:56 ET by JerBeing held down by three boys while another cuts my hair with a pocket knife? And another ten kids looking on
Then it was an assault and there is a comparison. I apologize for making light of it.
Jer
No prob Jer
August 2, 2008 - 01:02 ET by Cool ArrowBut I honestly was internally ashamed to realize a feeling of schadenfreude when I learned the guy who used the blade died in a bar fight 20 years later.
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Cool...
August 2, 2008 - 01:10 ET by JerSounds as if he were fortunate he survived another twenty years.
Jer
Yeah, Jer
August 2, 2008 - 01:15 ET by Cool ArrowAt our 15 yr reunion, he tried to pick a fight with one of his old nemises from High School.
Pretty sad to get stuck in the past.
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Jer
August 2, 2008 - 00:03 ET by MrShyYeah, but that's a very base hateful quality, and it IS a bit of a stereotype of "tough" southerners, so not necessarily rooted exclusively in political ideology.
Where as, when I interact with libs in NYC, who proclaim to really take a side and hold their "beliefs", they're often times just not pleasant people. They're not bullies threatening to kick my *ss, they're just wise guy, smug-y types who, again, I would not want to be friends with at all. Generally, I find, at least.
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Well, Shy, I have friends
August 2, 2008 - 00:16 ET by JerWell, Shy, I have friends from the left, right, and center--although the majority are conservative. Contrary to your experience, however, I would have to say the "smug" types definitely lean to the right.
Jer
"Contrary to your
August 2, 2008 - 00:21 ET by MrShy"Contrary to your experience, however, I would have to say the "smug" types definitely lean to the right."
Spend a few days in NYC, then.
I hate liberals, is what I'm trying to say.
I'm filled with hate, Jer. There, I said it. I'm the face of, um.... oops.... gosh, wait, I'm still a registered Dumbocrat (I am! :p)
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I hate liberals, is what
August 2, 2008 - 00:31 ET by JerI hate liberals, is what I'm trying to say = talk show audience. Case closed. :-)
Jer
I'm a seething-with-hate
August 2, 2008 - 00:48 ET by MrShyI'm a seething-with-hate (really, with-envy, knowing how superior my more-sophisticated, latte-drinking counterparts are) conservative. Did I mention, I'm also a white male who has no compassion for the less-fortunate?
I am.
Bill and Hannity and Rush speak to the inner me. I love them, and am so grateful there's a voice out there to speak to me and appeal to me.
Okay, now I'm acting more like a lib, being smarty-pantsy and non-stop sarcastic.
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You sure your not confusing
August 2, 2008 - 00:24 ET by BlazerYou sure your not confusing "smug" with being confident in ones ideaology Jer, because from what I've seen "smug" goes hand in hand with insecurity, and thats a trait I've seen alot of liberals possess.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Shawn...Well, please note
August 1, 2008 - 23:43 ET by JerShawn...Well, please note that this conversation occurred over a decade ago...prior to Air America, lefty websites, etc. bringing some of the more kick-ass types out of the woodwork.
Have you ever been a regular listener of conservative talk radio for extended periods of time? I can assure you that "gentility" and "civility" hasn't been the dynamic employed to build audiences--by conservatives or liberals.
Jer
"Have you ever been a
August 1, 2008 - 23:49 ET by Blazer"Have you ever been a regular listener of conservative talk radio for
extended periods of time? I can assure you that "gentility" and
"civility" hasn't been the dynamic employed to build audiences--by
conservatives or liberals."
Hogwash Jer, there is nothing on conservative radio that compares to the acrimonious bullsh&t "Err America" puts out across the spectrum of their programming.
That is if you dont' include Michael Savage on the conservative side, who I am no fan of whatsoever and believe he's just someone who found a comfortable niche', who doesn't really believe in what he's spewing anyway.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer, I respect your
August 2, 2008 - 00:02 ET by JerBlazer, I respect your position...I just disagree. When I was a somewhat regular listener of talk radio, it would be the equivalent of you listening to three hours of Olbermann, followed by three hours of Olbermann, followed by three hours of Olbermann--with non-stop ideological smearing.
Jer
Sorry Jer, Olbermann
August 2, 2008 - 00:08 ET by BlazerSorry Jer, Olbermann doesn't put up facts, he makes it all up. Conservative radio is not an echo chamber like liberal radio. Plus across the spectrum conservatives on talk radio always offer a platform to liberal guests to appear for debate and offer counterpoint, which is why the whole fairness doctrine thing is laughable to me.
Whens the last time you saw a conservative appear on "Countdown",.......... thats right never.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
blazer
August 2, 2008 - 00:18 ET by MrShyExactly!
Come to think of it, the only far-left (and YES, he is FAR left, the more I watch him) talk show host (tv or radio) that has any conservatives on is a comedy show.... The Daily Show.
And even then, he spends his 7-8 minutes leaning forward, visibly dismissing whatever the conservative has to say -- often cutting them off -- and antsy to get his next talking-point question in, only to dismiss the next answer. He sometimes borderline-lunges at his guests.... half-playful, but half-not. He was like this with a guy the other night, who TRIED to get his two cents in but was interupted several times.
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Well to Stewarts credit
August 2, 2008 - 00:20 ET by BlazerWell to Stewarts credit Shy, like him or hate him, he gets under my skin mostly, but he's talented, crafty, and intelligent, unlike most MSM auto-matrons, and on rare occasions he skewers the left just as bad also. Too bad he's not more balanced, I might watch him more often.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 2, 2008 - 00:28 ET by MrShy"like him or hate him, he gets under my skin mostly, but he's talented, crafty, and intelligent, unlike most MSM auto-matrons..."
Funny, you're preaching to the choir!
I might be the only one (and maybe you?) who is torn at 11... Jon or Bill? Luckily, Jon repeats at 1:00 am :) I think he's incredibly funny and talented, too. This makes it all the more fascinating when he has a right-leaning guest. Even someone as amicable and overly-polite/nice as Bill Kristol, it's fun watching Jon cringe a bit.
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Shy
August 2, 2008 - 00:32 ET by Cool ArrowYo.
Word. You got tech cred goin' on, yo.
TIVO Jon and check Bill out.
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Cool --->
August 2, 2008 - 01:00 ET by MrShyThanks fam. Stay strong.
Holla.
I don't have TIVO :(
TIVO is so.... Sex & The City (anytime it's mentioned, I think of that episode.... yes, I was once a S&TC fan.... TMI? Probably :))
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Word Shy
August 2, 2008 - 01:05 ET by Cool ArrowComin' clean on this here thing.
I rented, watched, and enjoyed "The West Wing"
Just shows I can handle pornography.
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C'mon, Shy...How many
August 2, 2008 - 00:26 ET by JerC'mon, Shy...How many liberals do Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, Levin etc. have on their shows. Chris Matthews has conservatives on all the time. So have most of the TV political talk shows over the years.
Jer
edit. I don't listen to Hannity of radio that much, but I believe he does occasionally have a liberal guest.
When listening, I hear
August 2, 2008 - 00:37 ET by BlazerWhen listening, I hear Rush, Hannity and O'Reilly challenge plenty of liberals to appear on their shows all of the time. You see confidence in ideaology outweighs "smug" -ness anytime
The truth is, they have plenty of liberal guests on their shows, the brave ones anyway.
True Matthews used to have strong conservatives on, until he got tired of spit-shouting them down and having to break for commercial everytime he ended up looking like a jacka$$.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Jer
August 2, 2008 - 00:36 ET by MrShy"Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, Levin "
To #'s 1, 3, 4 and 5, I have no idea. I'm not a big conservative-listening political junkie, at all, really. I don't have a working radio, and don't listen on the internet either.
#2 (Hannity) regularly has both sides on, especially his H&C show, of course. AND, constantly offers/requests liberals to come on, as does another tv/radio personality you conveniently left out, like some pink elephant, O'Reilly. Who works too hard, sometimes, keeping the guests even on both sides, and begging almost every day for this or that democrat/liberal to come on.
Both of them, alone, try very hard to make it fair & balanced, and yes, I termed it that way on purpose. I watch my share of Chris, and I will wager that he keeps it pretty comfy on the left side, occasionally tossing in a righty when he has a panel, but still more lefties.
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Shy...I've said before, and
August 2, 2008 - 00:46 ET by JerShy...I've said before, and I'll say again: I don't watch Olbermann, but I wish he would have conservatives on his show to spar with.
As far as Hannity and O'Reilly being fair and balanced...that's the most absurd statement I've ever heard from you. I've watched these guys--especially O'Reilly--for nearly ten years. O'Reilly is a Republican shill, a complete ideological fraud, and a total ass.
Jer
Don't be so negative
August 2, 2008 - 00:55 ET by Cool ArrowTell us which Liberal talking heads you do listen to.
It's easy to point out those with whom you disagree.
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Cool...
August 2, 2008 - 01:05 ET by JerI have always thought Al Hunt was pretty sharp. I like Tom Friedman, who is center-left...E. J. Dionne, Eleanor Clift, and Joe Klein, too.
But my favorites over the years have generally been conservatives: Bill Buckley, George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Tony Snow, Bill Kristol
Jer
Jer
August 2, 2008 - 01:10 ET by Cool ArrowMight it be you have no stomach for long diatribes promoting pity and ad nauseum giveaways for the able bodied, addled brained who squandered the eduation you paid for?
Wow! Can I quote me on that?
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Cool...Very impressive.
August 2, 2008 - 02:03 ET by JerCool...Very impressive. Rush copies to RNC for immediate distribution!
Jer
Bill Kristol is great, and I
August 2, 2008 - 01:14 ET by MrShyBill Kristol is great, and I like George Will a lot, too, what I hear of him. They are both gentlemen, too. Of course, Tony was cool.
I can stomach Tom Friedmen, but his wheels have been coming off lately.
And isn't Krauthammer that economy/money/stocks guy on cable? (No, I'm mixing up names....)
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Krauthammer
August 2, 2008 - 01:18 ET by Cool ArrowCharles is the guy on "Special Report" Round Table with Brit Hume who cuts through the BS with surgical precision, exposing the reality of any given event.
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Oooh, okay. The guy who sort
August 2, 2008 - 01:28 ET by MrShyOooh, okay. The guy who sort of doesn't have arms. (Yikes, that was awful...)
And I forgot about Brit Hume. That's a class act. Again, it's another reason I'm more Republican... I find most of the class acts are on this side.
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"try very hard to make it
August 2, 2008 - 01:04 ET by MrShy1 - "As far as Hannity and O'Reilly being fair and balanced.."
2 - "try very hard to make it fair & balanced"
Okay Jer, that's ME quoting me in the second quote. See what I wrote?
Yeah, Bill & Co.... they - lean - right.... I get it. I know.
You just made my argument with your full agreement that that pathetic creature, Olbermann, makes NO ATTEMPT to be anything but a total disgusting, 1-hour long propaganda megaphone. He's on a twisted ideological level all his own, Jer. Period.
It's truly a disgrace that he's given a primetime show by a major network.... OH, and let's not forget that other jack-cafferty-*ss on CNN, and his crap every night with Beard Man.
Then, a few notches down is Chris. I'll still call him more of a complete liberal hack than Bill or anyone on the right or on Fox. No need for you to counter this with your opinion, yet again. I know what it is.
But you have to side with me that Olbie is vile. Please! (Remember, I sort of like you around here ;))
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"O'Reilly is a Republican
August 2, 2008 - 01:03 ET by Blazer"O'Reilly is a Republican shill, a complete ideological fraud, and a total ass."
Remember though Jer, O'Reilly and Hannity are pundits and make no bones about it while Olbermann actually claims to be an objective journalist, while sullying Murrows memory and tagline when signing off every night theres the difference.
Bill O' just had Medea Benjamin on awhile back, and you dont' get any further left than that. Yea, they may be shills, but their not claiming or pretending to be unbiased like most on the left do.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 2, 2008 - 01:10 ET by MrShyNot to mention, the queen of Code Pink is now a REGULAR on BOR's show! I mean, Jer, come on...
There's no comparison, between what you see as the worst -- BOR, which you're totally off base on, I think -- and at least 2 or 3 filthy, far-left hacks/shills/tools/you-name-it the likes of Olbie and Cafferty, two wretched, ugly, hate-filled talking heads with blatant liberal agendas and playbooks.
Whew! I'm out of every cliche.... but again, they were all necessary when describing those two....... things.
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Yea Shy, and I dont' know
August 2, 2008 - 01:14 ET by BlazerYea Shy, and I dont' know if its the healthy medium or Bill O's presence but she actually appears to be cognizant and sane when she's on there.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 2, 2008 - 01:20 ET by MrShyWell, people like Jer really have this set-in-stone idea of Bill.
I dunno, maybe he's mellowed since his more fiery days before I became more familiar with him (in the past few years, that is.) But I find him to be a very likable person, and he IS quite often warm and patient with guests on the other side of the spectrum. He's had Sharpton on several times, and no one should pay that swindler one iota of respect, but he DOES, and they get along.
I mean...... it's amazing..... "Olbermann, hmmm, or O'Reilly??" A debate like that is a complete insult to BOR.
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Shy...If it's set in stone,
August 2, 2008 - 01:27 ET by JerShy...If it's set in stone, it's from having watched his show literally hundreds of times for nearly ten years. Seriously, how much, how often, and how long have you watched him. As I posted a few minutes ago, my favorite talking heads, the ones I have most admired, have been conservatives.
Bill O'Reilly is a sick, despicable charlatan who sullies the names of the really classy conservative pundits like Buckley, Will, Snow, and Kristol.
Jer
"Bill O'Reilly is a sick,
August 2, 2008 - 01:42 ET by MrShy"Bill O'Reilly is a sick, despicable charlatan who sullies the names of the really classy conservative pundits like Buckley, Will, Snow, and Kristol."
Firstly, he is not the same THING as those others, who I all respect as well. BOR is more the Giraldo Rivera-type, I am fully aware of this. So Jer, it's apples and oranges. But I still contend, that he's not nearly some horrible, tabloid-ish faux-news person you make him out to be.
Secondly, what you're calling him just tells me you're sipping some brand of deep-seeded, seething anti-BOR juice that is, well, something you're sipping.
Also, your claim of taping his shows and playing them again and again is, well, "impressive". I'll just leave it at that.
:p
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Shy...What do you mean by
August 2, 2008 - 01:54 ET by JerShy...What do you mean by "impressive". I'll just leave it at that"?
Somehow, I don't think it was intended as a compliment.
I had taped those particular shows. When I saw BOR's poll with 97% saying that he was as hard or harder on McCain, I thought I would compare the questioning and draw my own conclusions. So I watched and rewatched those particular segments which was necessary in order to fairly contrast the questioning. I'm sorry if you find that odd.
Jer
Jer
August 2, 2008 - 02:04 ET by MrShyHaha. Okay, fair enough.
No, it was meant to be a compliment. 99% at least, how's that? :p
It's impressive that you do this. Clearly, you're more the political junkie than I am. I'm too consumed with myself to be a junkie with anything. Except basketball. I can't get enough basketball.
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Not to mention Sharpton,
August 2, 2008 - 01:27 ET by BlazerNot to mention Sharpton, Juan Williams and Dick Morris to name a few are regular liberal guests on H&C along with the slew O'Reilly has on and they seem to show some good natured ribbing and mutual respect with their guests, but they always allow them to voice their opinions without shouting them down. like I said maybe its the "fair and balanced' medium and not a lib echo chamber that keeps these folks honest and on topic.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Dick Morris? DICK
August 2, 2008 - 01:44 ET by JerDick Morris? DICK MORRIS? A Liberal? Just because he once worked for Bill Clinton [and now hates both Clintons with a purple fury]?
Wow, Blazer. Just...WOW!
Jer
do we really want to get
August 2, 2008 - 01:57 ET by BlazerDo we really want to get into the folks that once worked for conservatives and have since become turncoats against them ? Plus everytime I turn on H&C I see morris him defending Hillary and exoriating Obama, so there goes that argument.
I have a long list of conservative stool pidgeons, but anyway, thats off topic anyway, stick to the subject.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 2, 2008 - 01:58 ET by JerI agree completely with staying on topic. But you are the one claiming Morris is a liberal. I couldn't simply ignore that. He's always been a registered Republican, even when he worked for Clinton.
Jer
A Republican maybe, but a
August 2, 2008 - 02:04 ET by BlazerA Republican maybe, but a true conservative would have never worked for a socialist.
Never confuse a Republican with a conservative. Even Shy said he is still a registered Democrat.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer
August 2, 2008 - 02:08 ET by JerI'll accept most of that [except Clinton was no socialist]. Morris is essentially an unprincipled flack.
Jer
Gotta call it a night, buddy. Seeya later.
"Even Shy said he is still a
August 2, 2008 - 02:08 ET by MrShy"Even Shy said he is still a registered Democrat."
Oops. Blazer, are you now pegging me a borderline-troll ?
I'm "registered", that's all. Doesn't really mean much of anything. I actually think I'm leaning more and more right every day.
With age comes wisdom. At least, for some of us.
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On the contrary Shy. Jer
August 2, 2008 - 02:21 ET by BlazerOn the contrary Shy. Jer made the claim Dick Morris has always been a registered Republican, although as history will show not only did he work for the Clintons he has been a steadfast supporter of liberals everywhere.
He likes to point this out because although Morris has been in bed with the Clintons all these years, and Jer had no problem with that, now that Morris aint' drinking the Obama Kool-Aid, he can conveinently cancel Dickkie boy out now , because he doesn't agree with him.
Just sayin' . Although you may be a registered Democrat Shy, that doesn't mean you should be confined there indefini