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Why Did Voters Ignore The Coming Socialism Last November?Media did a great job of misrepresenting who Obama was 14% (41 votes) Obama ran a great bait and switch campaign 3% (10 votes) People were so angry with Republicans they'd vote for any Democrat 3% (10 votes) People were enamored with the idea of the first black president 2% (6 votes) All of the above 74% (217 votes) Other (please comment) 3% (8 votes) Total votes: 292 |
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People were angry with Republicans for sure
August 24, 2009 - 09:15 ET by shawn228They were so frustrated with the way things were going that decided that anything was better than voting the GOP for a third term and they were willing to take their chances.
"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong
That is my vote,
August 24, 2009 - 09:30 ET by dvdaughtryThat is my vote, also.
However, I do believe the media misrepresneted the GOP ticket as well. I have not found anyone who is "neutral" to Sarah Palin. She is either supported, or cast off as an idiot.
But it was mostly a sick-of-republican vote.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
Who's on first?
August 24, 2009 - 09:41 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsYes, people were angry with the Republicans, because they were fooled by the MSM and the Democrats into thinking the Republicans were in charge and responsible for all our ills. The MSM and the D's did a great job of fooling the American public (especially the uneducated underclass (i.e., your typical D voter)). Now think hard, who controlled Congress since the 2006 elections? Who wrote the disastrous 2007 and 2008 budgets that Bush was forced to sign? Who dictated that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac write government backed loans to deadbeats with no chance of repayment? Who was in charge of the state of LA and the city of NO and decided they would defy Bush and refuse to evacuate? Are you getting the picture here?
DWrite Congress and Senate and tell them what YOU think!
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Indeed
August 24, 2009 - 11:03 ET by Kingfish17The MSM spent sooooo much time on stuff that was so trivial, and they hyped it up to "Story of the Decade" proportions. The outing of Valerie Plame? That was such a joke. The Cindy Sheehan protests? You got to be kidding me. The crappy economy when unemployment was actually below ZERO! (Yes, you heard me right. There were more jobs being offered then people willing to work. That's why illegal immigration was through the roof!)
This is the story of how our press tried to destroy a way of life in the USA in the early 21st century.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Yes, Bush was totally
August 24, 2009 - 13:16 ET by arkansaszippersYes, Bush was totally forced into doing everything by those nasty ol' democrats.
Wow... now who's the gullible one here?
~Democrats
August 24, 2009 - 13:22 ET by choselife3xUsed threats against military funding to finagle the pork they wanted.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
And I'm sure the Republicans
August 24, 2009 - 13:25 ET by arkansaszippersAnd I'm sure the Republicans never do anything morally questionable, cause they're the "good guys," right? Man, I never new that politics was so simple!
It's not really that simple
August 24, 2009 - 15:10 ET by ParagrouperWe're just trying to "dumb it down" a little for you.
"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden
It's not so much that
August 24, 2009 - 16:02 ET by HelenSIt's not so much that politics is simple - rather that statists are simple. As you so accommodatingly illustrated.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
It must be very liberating
August 26, 2009 - 10:09 ET by arkansaszippersIt must be very liberating to know that you are on the side of good, fighting the nasty libs to the end. You must wonder how the rest of the country is so mislead to pick the wrong side to be on... I mean, who wants to fight for the "bad guys?" Unless... what if both sides are lying?!? Well that would screw everything up, wouldn't it? What if both sides just tell their troops exactly what they want to hear? But that would be waaayy to simple, right?
"Ignorance is bliss" - some dude
Hey arkansas! Were you born
August 26, 2009 - 10:17 ET by bassndudeHey arkansas! Were you born stupid, or do you have to work at it? US troops are not indoctronated. They have values. Troops do not fight because they are told to, but because they want to. They understand. Unlike you.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I meant troops, as in
August 26, 2009 - 10:27 ET by arkansaszippersI meant troops, as in voters. You know, troops for the Republicans, and troops for the Democrats. It's called abstract thinking - you should try it sometime.
Zippers~
August 26, 2009 - 10:50 ET by Georgia GirlBefore you criticize someone, you may want to be sure you know what the heck you're talking about. I think the word you were searching for is "metaphor." Voters=troops
"Abstract thinking" has a little different application and does not make a lot of sense in how you applied it here. There is a book I would like to suggest to you: the dictionary.
Abstract thinking is:
Thinking characterized by the ability to use concepts and to make and understand generalizations, such as of the properties or pattern shared by a variety of specific items or events.
touche
August 26, 2009 - 13:02 ET by arkansaszipperstouche
It is Liberating
August 27, 2009 - 01:04 ET by Cho Yi FanThere is no good and bad but it is liberating when one accepts that both sides are lying because most if not all politicians are liars.After that has been accepted then smarmy, underhanded and duplicitous behavior is to be expected no matter what the issue or party affiliation. So to understand what is really going on a person must investigate to get the real motivation behind what politicians are trying to do. Plain and simple,both parties are corrupt so accept it and move on.What has happened so far with the Obama administration was to be expected and am not shocked or suprised because I knew who he was and what he was going in.My worst fears have come true.
So to those who voted for "Change" without taking the time to go on line and investigate who Barak Obama really was and what he really believed in well you have gotten what you deserve.This is what happens when the media turns a presidential election into something resembling American Idol.This is what happens when people vote with their heart and not with their heads.This is what happens when people vote for someone because he is popular or cool. This wasn't an election to vote for senior class president this was an election to vote for the leader of a superpower.
As a Libertarian I am appalled with the direction that this country is headed. I am appalled but not responsible for voting in the man that is taking us there .
"Anger cannot be dishonest." Marcus Aurelius
I don't know, we're usually
August 27, 2009 - 11:18 ET by arkansaszippersI don't know, we're usually not given much of a choice in any election. I don't know that we'd be any better off with McCain/Palin, or that we're any worse off than we were with Bush/Cheney. Everything seems to pretty much go on as usual regardless of who's in the White House.
All of the above...and...
August 24, 2009 - 09:30 ET by cjbreischAll of the above...and...
Let's not forget. Not only is Obama black, he's the "American Idol President".
Voting for him was cool.
"American Idol"...
August 24, 2009 - 09:52 ET by Meredith1966Might be that to some but to me he's Erkel. The more I see him the more I see the school nerd who got stuffed in his locker by The Jocks. He's a couple of years older than me but for some reason I see a gawky teenager when he's on the TV...or magazines...or cereal boxes...or posters...or (coming soon) stamps...
"The words of a President have an enormous weight and ought not to be used indiscriminately." - Calvin Coolidge
"Did I do that?"
August 24, 2009 - 11:11 ET by SouthJersey1953Erkel!! That is perfect. I have been trying to figure out who he reminded me of...
I suspect in less than a year, he will start using the "did I do that?" line
"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans
All
August 24, 2009 - 09:30 ET by boomerconI voted "all of the above", but I hold the MSM morally responsible for their lack of professionalism and failure to uphold their responsibilities.
A friend sent an email showing Obama during campaign, carrying a book, his finger apparently holding his place, entitled A Post American World. If that's a true photo, and if the MSM had given it any publicity at all, he never would've been elected, IMHO.
The same MSM was around in 2000 and 2004
August 24, 2009 - 09:47 ET by shawn228....what was different this time?
"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong
shawn228
August 24, 2009 - 10:01 ET by AgnosticActually is was not just one thing but many. The MSM went way beyond any level of bias they have ever shown before to hide the questionable aspect of then Senator Obama and went on the attack like I have never seen against the former Governor Palin. I would have to say that mainly it was the accumulation of several years of having every mistake made by anyone remotely linked to Republicans highlighted and beaten to death in the media coupled with the mistakes the Republicans made to get themself in the limelight.
That coupled with an opposing canidate that didn't really excite the Republican base and the natural tendancy for people to vote for a change in direction (grass is greener syndrome always sets in eventually) and you have some of the negative reasons that President Obama won.
On a positive note there was a good job done to get many people out to vote though their actual knowledge of what they were voting for could be questioned their right to vote can not be taken away. All in all you have to wonder why Obama did not win by more. While a clear win for Obama it was far from the landslide the media made it out to be.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
Not the Same Media
August 24, 2009 - 10:03 ET by namronThis was not the same media. Every so often you got stories about Kerry and Gore that weren't so positive of them. This was non-existent! I live in Chicago, I know what he did with theCollege of Annenberg challenge, His wife’s patient dumping at UIC or salarydoubling, his connections & relations with ACORN and his own willingness tohave people thrown off the ballot, but you heard nothing not so much as a peep.
It was clearly the new andimproved [sarc] and a lame candidate in McCain.
Reply to Shawn
August 24, 2009 - 11:06 ET by Kingfish17The answer to your question is simple. Bush would have beat Obama in 2000 or 2004.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Your sure Bush would have beat Obama Kingfish?
August 24, 2009 - 19:51 ET by shawn228Conservatives were excited about their candidate in 2004 especially the evangelicals which is the base. He got around 63 million votes and Obama got 66 million votes in 08.
Impossible to call a hypothetical, but I would not say Bush would have beat Obama is that simple.
"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong
How many of that 66 million
August 25, 2009 - 15:16 ET by Doc_NavyHow many of that 66 million were first time voters?? The African American vote was HUGE compared to any other time in history. Also, one of the largest segments of the Obama vote was college age voters, also a non-typical voter.
IMHO, Bush would have beat Obama in 2000 and 2004.
Why, in 2000 everyone was tired of Dem Sex scandles, and in 2004 the war in Iraq was only a year old. Historically Americans don't jump ship in the middle of a war.
Doc
MSM
August 24, 2009 - 09:50 ET by SouthJersey1953Really all of above, but voted MSM because it was THEIR fault that the other choices were true.
"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans
I'm proud to say as much as I disliked McCain...
August 24, 2009 - 09:34 ET by jawebster1I still voted for him (and told everybody I voted for Palin). I was not fooled by Obama. Now people, other than those who want total government control of our lives, are finally wising up. Pray it's not too late America. If ObamaCare is passed, America as a great country that believes in Freedom and Free Enterprise, is doomed. Jim Webster
Jim - my husband and I did the same thing! It was going to
August 24, 2009 - 16:03 ET by Cape Conservativebe hold our noses and mark the ballot until the breath of fresh air named Sarah Palin came along!
And, just as the left is doing to Glenn Beck now, they practiced LONG & HARD with Sarah Palin first! I haven't read the Saul Alinsky book, but it seems ATTACK THE PERSON is front and center of any real challenge. And both of them are definitely that!
How many presidents, for heaven's sake, have attacked a radio host PERSONALLY - BY NAME as the current president has time and again?!?!
They are running scared - and the one thing Saul Alinsky didn't understand is the TRUE PATRIOTIC NATURE of Americans! You just don't mess around with us like that! As has been witnessed, both by our appearance and their PERSONAL ATTACKS on the tea party or town hall attendees, they have awakened a sleeping tiger and we are NOT very happy to have someone come in and set out to DESTROY OUR COUNTRY!!!
This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
T'was indeed...
August 24, 2009 - 09:39 ET by jdlybrand...a perfect storm. Then came the tsunami.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
First Black President
August 24, 2009 - 09:50 ET by Gat New YorkAll of the people I know who did vote for Obama said they felt good about voting for the first Black President.
They did not know anything about him, were not concerned that he had no experience of any kind, and completely overlooked his radical associations.
It was if it were a fairy tale final chapter to the civil rights movement in our lifetime. The problem is fairy tales are just that.
If I say that I did not
August 24, 2009 - 13:50 ET by b4m4wyIf I say that I did not vote for him because he is black, am I prejudiced? How about, I didn't vote for him because he is a JUNIOR senator with no experience. Although, I just heard McCain say that he believes in global warming, climate change, or whatever the flavor of the day is now. Time for Ms. Cheney to step up and be the President like she is intended to be.
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
Ronald Reagan
My letter to Geico
August 24, 2009 - 09:51 ET by RonD812Your decision to so easily cave in to the special interest group ColorofChange.org is disturbing to me. As of now I am shopping for other automobile coverage for my automobiles and am even willing to pay more to make my point. I also have many acquaintances in the military who share my point of view and am also encouraging them to reconsider using Geico for insurance. I would think that a company who caters to and emphasized their service to the military would have a firmer grasp on the views of their customers. Many of us support Glenn Beck and what he does to ensure that all sides of debate are covered. Do you really intend to monitor the speech of every tv show your commercials appear on? Do you advertise on 24? Did you know one of it's stars recently called anyone who protests government spending and taxation as "teabagging rednecks"? Do you even know what "teabagging" is reference to? Do you tolerate that behavior by one of the programs that you sponsor. If that is what you intend to do, I'll be sure to help you out by pointing out any and all offensive comments on any programs that your commercials happen to air on. Perhaps you should watch MSNBC some night and listen to some of the comments about former President Bush that YOU sponsor. So you really want to raise the ire of a group of people who share conservative values. I'm certain that a more careful look into the issue was warranted vice a knee-jerk reaction based on one comment made by Beck.
Could you please....
August 24, 2009 - 11:15 ET by Kingfish17Did Geico make some sort of formal announcement that they are off Beck's show? Do you have a link or something?
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
I just renewed my GEICO policy in July. When I heard...
August 24, 2009 - 15:00 ET by jawebster1they were dropping Beck, I sent them an e-mail asking if it were true. They sent me an e-mail back and said it was true. They are no longer running ads on the Glenn Beck show. When my policy is up for renewal, I will go shopping. One thing for sure. I will NOT renew with Progressive Insurance (you know, the girl in white with the red-red lips). Their top guy is a George Soros type Liberal. Jim Webster
Geico
August 24, 2009 - 16:03 ET by doug1950I have been with Geico over 25 years but will renewing just as soon as I can contact another military oriented organization that carries insurance like USAA. Maybe tomorrow, I won't wait until it is time to renew. They can just issue me a refund. I just read Walmart is dropping their ads on Beck as well, My wife is going to have a lot of time on her hands without Walmart. Maybe I can get her to mow the lawn......hmmmm.
Nicely done
August 24, 2009 - 11:17 ET by jdlybrandI'm sure you felt better after you sent it in!
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
I can only assume you mean those voting for him?
August 24, 2009 - 09:59 ET by Calypso Jonesignore it?! Hell. They EMBRACED it!
All of the above, but I would add one factor that was omitted:
August 24, 2009 - 10:06 ET by R D HelmGuv'mint edjumicashion.
Never, ever underestimate the stoopidity of the average American voter.
All the information one would ever need to know about the true nature of this former community agitator, who four years ago nobody had even heard of, was all over the Internet two years before the election of '08.
The tragedy that is now rapidly unfolding for America is due to the fact that 65 million of its citizens failed to do their homework prior to the election.
-Dave
The media misrepresented
August 24, 2009 - 10:07 ET by ConservativeRexThe media misrepresented him. He is and remains a fraud. They are still doing the same.
As far as anger at the GOP, hell, I'm angry at the GOP but I refuse to cut my nose off to spite my face.
You need accomplices to run a bait and switch operation, hence, the media.
People could have been enamored with any black politician, just not this joker. Well, they got what they paid for.
I'd vote All of the Above with one exception...
August 24, 2009 - 10:08 ET by Iowa BoyCandidate Obama did not run a Bait & Switch campaign. He was one of the few candidates who was really very candid about who he was and what he was going to do. He told everyone that he was going to "fundamentally change America". He also told Joe the plumber he was going to "spread the wealth around". I ask you. What has he done since taking office that's changed from how he campaigned? Nada.
I really think many American just don't look deeply enough at the candidates, as evidenced by the fine film of the Obama voters ignorance of the issues and candidates. The reporter's name escapes me. My wife and I paid very close attention when Mr. Obama won the Iowa caucus. His victory speech frightened us greatly. I only supported Sen. McCain because I could not support Mr. Obama.
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
Great Comment
August 24, 2009 - 10:42 ET by GDAV05Took the words out of my mouth.
What did he promise that he did not keep?...
August 24, 2009 - 11:30 ET by IndyAdamJust a few examples: A more open administration, more transparency, promise to give more than a couple of days for legislators and average americans to read bills... can go on and on and on.
The way to get things done in Washington, is to get rid of all the F-ing lawyers! (me)
Oh, and BAN "community
August 24, 2009 - 11:31 ET by IndyAdamOh, and BAN "community organizers"!
→ Lobbyists
August 24, 2009 - 11:36 ET by Cool ArrowSaid he wouldn't allow lobbyists in his Administration.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Higher Electric bills
August 24, 2009 - 11:38 ET by Cool ArrowHe still hasn't delivered on his promise to make Utility bills skyrocket.
I'm thinking he'll keep that one, though.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
My mistake.
August 24, 2009 - 11:54 ET by Iowa BoyThose are indeed broken promised but, I was more worried about the big stuff instead of the procedural nuances.
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
→ Iowa Boy
August 24, 2009 - 12:02 ET by Cool ArrowI take it somebody else pays your electric bill.
Mine runs $300 in the summer. Jack that up to $600, and it's big stuff in my book.
That's a promise he'll keep. A BIG promise.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
---> Cool Arrow
August 24, 2009 - 14:07 ET by Iowa BoyMy air conditioning bill is pretty pricey and I'm the one who pays the bill. I live in a 1920 Arts & Crafts so when the President said, "energy prices would necessarily sky rocket," I took him at his word. The Cap & Trade (Tax) bill has only passed the House. It's still sitting in the Senate. So technically, that's not a broken promise but a promise in the making I just didn't list it in my original post for brevity's sake.
Believe me, living in Iowa means humidity enough to melt the flesh from your bones. Granted it's not Houston humid but, my electric bill is one to which I pay close attention.
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
Houston humid
August 24, 2009 - 21:51 ET by RESTLESS 1Well, San Antonio is pretty close, especially at night and in the mornings.
I gotta tell ya, this is one summer I can't wait to end. I'm watching my bill too, watching it go up and up and up, but I'm willing to pay for what I use. The cap and tax bill is a bunch of bs aimed at making me pay even more for what other people use.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
The bait and switch came with his "I will not raise...
August 24, 2009 - 15:07 ET by jawebster1taxes on 95% of the American people." The dummies who bought the bait and who smoke have already been lied to. The rest of you? Your time is a-comin'. Jim Webster
all of the above, but....
August 24, 2009 - 10:08 ET by LorraineI really think most people are ignorant of history, economics, and current events. They went for the American Idol candidate - glossy finish but no substance. They wanted to be cool by voting for the cool guy.
I personally would prefer to have a responsible adult as POTUS, not the Wee-Wee Man.
"angry with republicans" is
August 24, 2009 - 10:22 ET by mattm"angry with republicans" is too broad of a description.
I was pissed that the GOP allowed the Florida delegates to be seated even though the DNC said they would not seat their Florida delegates, and thus many democrats crossed over in the primary and voted for McCain.
Both Candidates in the election were chosen by DEMOCRATS!
And the Dumb Ol' Party let it happen. This is what I was pissed about.
A decent candidate could have beaten Obama.
Real journalism would have made a difference~
August 24, 2009 - 10:51 ET by Georgia GirlAs disgruntled as many were with Bush/Republicans, I am convinced that had the media done its job of digging into Obama and fairly representing his views/history, etc. (and not serving as cheerleaders/propoganda machines), he would have lost the election -- not by a big margin, but it would have made the difference.
The "squishy" Republicans and moderates/Independents wouldn't have been able to stomach the real Obama, and those votes would have been more than enough to make the difference. Any hint of socialism (especially "spreading the wealth around" and his less-than-in-love-with-his-country attitude and how dangerously left he really was) -- enough Americans would not have taken that risk on him. For instance, his radical views were on tape on healthcare, for cryin' out loud. I guess that really rings a bell now -- but none of that was touched.
Reading suggestion...
August 24, 2009 - 10:44 ET by Tom1969caI'm about halfway through the audiobook of Bernie Goldberg's A Slobbering Love Affair. I strongly recommend it.
Goldberg suggests that, while the media did do quite a bit of outright misrepresentation, their even greater sin was that of omission - even when they reported things about The One, they didn't tell the whole story...
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Daily Sarah Palin fact:
Sarah Palin was right about the MSM.
August 24, 2009 - 10:45 ET by jessieHThe media is the main culprit. People were duped by Acorn, as well.
MSM's role in getting Obama elected
August 24, 2009 - 10:47 ET by Jake6Prior to the election I traveled by commercial air. Going past the airport newstand was akin to being in an Obama for President campaign center. His picture was everywhere. If Elvis had returned I don't think it would have been noticed.
In summary, the MSM was an active arm of the Obama campaign and energetically omitted any investigation into his background which denied the voters full disclosure.
The reason that was left out
August 24, 2009 - 10:47 ET by suburbaniteI think a lot of people voted for Obama because he is black. They wanted to somehow prove to themselves that they weren't prejudiced by voting for a black man. It is the only legitimate reason I've been able to come up with as to why the American people elected a wholly unqualified, socialist, apostate candidate. All of the other reasons, even in their totality, don't account for Obama winning the election. Well that and the fact that McCain is no gem either.
"Fight the good fight every moment
It's your only way" Triumph
Suburbanite
August 24, 2009 - 11:54 ET by RESTLESS 1Like the Triumph reference. I was thinking of going with "Don't look back in anger, don't look ahead in fear" from the song "Time goes by" for a tagline at one time. Maybe I will use it someday.
"We all bear witness, as history unfolds..." Triumph
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Why did you vote for a socialist?
August 24, 2009 - 10:50 ET by djm159To correct the term, Obama is a Marxist, not a socialist.
Americans elected him because of white guilt and lies from the left about the economy, the war, blatent Bush bashing (he was never the legitimate president) and this started when Soros lost 23 million with Al Gore. Bush was accused of creating Katrina, blowing up the levees, blowing up twin towers, blatant racism (when in reality he did more for blacks than any other president), announcing from a ship in flight gear "mission accomplished," yet no one seemed to care when the former liar in chief Clinton stood on the deck of a warship in a flight jacket, even though he was a draft dodger. The economy was talked down by the far left from the day Bush took office until he left office and yet in his second term he won by 51% of the vote which is something Clinton never did (47% was his best). What amazes me is that people are so gullible that they would believe the Karma-compromised Nancy Pelosi, the most evil, lying woman to ever wear an Armani suit, and the idiot Harry Reid who used the floor of the Senate to attack a private citizen Rush Limbaugh because the truth was not acceptable, not to mention the real leader in the White House, George Soros, whose goal is to destroy America and their economy to try and benefit is own coffers.
Well you all who voted for the white-hating, muslim sympathizing racist in the white house should not be surprised that Marism is the order of the day. You asked for it and now you have it, deal with it, but in the meantime don't get too attached to your infants, mom or grandma because we now know they are expendable under Obama Care. How does it feel to have your tax dollars paying for a vacation costing 35,000 dollars a week, at minimum. Aren't we fortunate to have such an upstanding political activitst and community organizer without the common sense God gave a goose as president? Perhaps a vacation for Obama would be a week in the White House since he has been global hopping since taking office.
djm159/No correction needed~
August 24, 2009 - 11:30 ET by Georgia GirlThere's no need to give a correction to others who use the terms "socialist" or "socialism," instead of using "Marxist" or "Marxism." It's perfectly acceptable to use the broader (umbrella) term of socialism, regardless if someone believes Obama's attitudes/actions are more specifically/and or better described by Marxism. In other words, if a pet is a Beagle, you can still refer to the pet as a dog. It's not inaccurate.
Marxism is: "the political, economic, and social principles and policies advocated by Marx: a theory and practice of socialism including the labor theory of value, dialectical materialism, the class struggle, and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society."
Socialism is: "any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownerships and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods."
(Merrian-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary)
georgia -- plus,
August 24, 2009 - 11:44 ET by Jack Bauergeorgia -- plus, "socialist/socialism is an easy to understand handle to hang on him, rather than some esoteric argument over Marxism.
Folks know in their guts they don't want anything to do with an alien, un-American ideology.
Jack~
August 24, 2009 - 12:02 ET by Georgia GirlSo true. I think sometimes people use the "Marxism" term for squishy reasons. It recently cracked me up when a liberal commentator was recently defending Obama by saying: "He's not a communist -- he's a Marxist!" Yes, much better, thanks. I'm so reassured. There's no danger there. LOL. There are degrees and "splinters" of socialism...but if we all can just get straight the end result: less individual freedoms/more enforced control, often by finagling -- which I hate more than anything!
Your point is right on...Americans hear "socialism," and (most) understand the overriding concept and get it. When they hear "Marxism," I think it's more of a mushy thought: "Okay...the class thing...not good...not really communism...lots of points to it, but I can't remember the specifics." ^_^
GG -- exactly. In
August 24, 2009 - 12:15 ET by Jack BauerGG -- exactly.
In political discourse, never use language that is outside the folks orbit. In fact, that goes for all communications. I was an ad copywriter for long enough. People are bombarded daily by a deluge of words
You need to cut thrrough the crap instantly.
That's why Sarah's Palins DEATH PANEL crack was SO spot on. It encapsulated the idea beautifully in just two words.
People got that. Hence the fury of the loony leftists who use language to obsfucate its true meaning.
Some are more equal than others.
August 24, 2009 - 12:10 ET by dasher<b>...and dictatorship of the proletariat until the establishment of a classless society." </b>
Except that some of the classless society will be called the elite, and they will be exempt from the misery of Marxism. ( i.e. some are more equal than others.)
"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O'Rourke
P.S. Who's Merrian? She's so smart!
August 24, 2009 - 12:17 ET by Georgia GirlMake that Merriam. I'm editing myself. ^_^
The number of NBers who
August 24, 2009 - 11:40 ET by Jack BauerThe number of NBers who voted for Obama is quite tiny. So your words are essentially wasted, and they've all been said before. Before Papa Doc was even elected.
August 24, 2009 - 10:54 ET by jessieHTo date, I have not met anyone who voted for this arogant ass. At least no one who will admit it.
I voted for McGovern
August 24, 2009 - 10:59 ET by suburbaniteDon't look at me, I voted for McGovern.
"Fight the good fight every moment
It's your only way" Triumph
Where do you live?
August 24, 2009 - 11:56 ET by StarAZI know tons of people, even in AZ, who were in luuuv with this person! Voting Rep for the only time in 45 yrs cost me friends and halfway ruined my life--and now his economic ineptitude is ruining the other half.
I'm a life-long conservative
August 24, 2009 - 11:12 ET by BruzillaI'm a life-long conservative who voted for Obama for the simple reason that I knew McCain was going to be just as bad as Obama policy wise, and worse for us since we would have to oppose the policies of our own president!
I knew we had to go through through the liberal foolishness of Carter before Americans again realized why you don't want Libs in control, and that we would have to go through an Obama term to repeat the lesson and get us a conservative government again.
→ Thanks Bruzilla
August 24, 2009 - 11:17 ET by Cool ArrowJust think of the possibilities that logic frees up.
You could drink hemlock to prove it's poisonous, too.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
possibilities that logic frees up
August 24, 2009 - 11:27 ET by CarlosSYeah! We've got an Obama supporter in our office who claims that he (the supporter) is a Free Market Capitalist, yet he actively campaigned for and voted for Obama.
I'm with you, cool
August 24, 2009 - 11:42 ET by candanceWe can debate the merits of going third party, but it's just plain stupid to vote for a communist to teach society a lesson.
Besides, Republicans aren't exactly fighting either way.
Think a bit, and consider
August 24, 2009 - 12:54 ET by BruzillaThink a bit, and consider the larger picture for a moment. Remember back to when TARP was being considered. Obama was all for it. I thought that McCain, being Mr. Budget Hawk would vote "no", but instead he votes "yes". Using that precedent, what would he have said as POTUS to the porkubus bill? He probably would have wanted some changes, but largely would have supported the bill. He also supported the elimination of the tax cuts, cap & trade, and universal healthcare.
Now, where would the Republican party be right now if we had spent the last six months battling against our own president? And with McCain's history of his willingness to go against his own party increasing the more Republicans try to get him to go along, how would things have been different from where we are with Obama? The short answer is our party would have been further subdivided into pro-McCain and anti-McCain, we would weakened as a party, and our chances for the immediate future would be bleak.
Now, where are now... as we get to put the full fire under Obama's butt and those of the Congress? Republicans have never looked better, we stand to take back the Congress in 2010, and there's an excellent chance we'll take back the White House in 2012. You want to know why I voted for Obama? That's why!
Bruz... I understand
August 24, 2009 - 13:12 ET by bigtimerBruz...
I understand where you're coming from...and you are right about McC in a lot of respects...he is for CapnTrade, Amnesty etc that you mentioned above...I would much rather be in the position we are now, than we would be with McC in the long run of it all for the future of this country...things happen for a reason....at the rate the )-Team is going, we are in a great position to take back the House and maybe the Senate....hopefully we will have a great conservative Prez candidate that will come out of the primaries.
Btw...McC and his mouth just over the week-end, didn't disappoint, he still doesn't get why he didn't win...and his daughter is not far from him.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt - I couldn't believe McCain - he should do the Ted Kennedy
August 24, 2009 - 21:51 ET by Cape Conservative'good thing' and resign!!!! He has done almost as much damage to our country as Kennedy has! But the two of them are like peas in a pod...IT'S ALL ABOUT ME....DO YOU HEAR ME...IT IS ALL ABOUT MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!!!!
Ted has shown his true colors even on his deathbed...MEMEMEMEME! If he was so concerned about Massachusetts having only one voting senator, he should have resigned last year when he was first diagnosed. It is such a joke...HE put the demand on the state legislature to change the law 5 years ago, and now HE wants them to change it back to what it was before HIS demands!
Every time McCain has 'crossed the aisle' it has been to the detriment of his own party! Surely he must understand why the Democrats and media love him once again...they would welcome the devil himself if he turned against Republicans!
Senator McCain - RESIGN ALREADY - FOR ONCE BE A STATESMAN & THINK OF WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA!
There should be TERM LIMITS or MANDATORY RETIREMENT for ALL in Congress!!! It seems they are incapable of letting go of all that 'power' they have voted for themselves - after all THEY know better than their constituents! The American voters would never have given it to them!
I will respect Senator McCain for his military service and time as a prisoner of war. However, there were many more POW's than just himself, so it is time to put that one back on the shelf and tell us what GOOD he has done for America in the past 9 years!!! NOT MUCH, I'll tell you. Voted against most conservative legislation. And he can tell his little valley girl to shut up and get on with her own life! Whatever she has to say is UNIMPORTANT to all but Baba & Whoopie!
This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
So you drowned your kids
August 24, 2009 - 11:29 ET by Dan The Man 2So you drowned your kids because you knew they were going to die anyways and it was better to kill them now from someone who loved them? Because the second set of kids would be better off with your vast lnowlege of parenting tecniques?
I understand you now.
→ Andrea Yates
August 24, 2009 - 11:33 ET by Cool ArrowNo, Dan. He killed the kids to prove to them there is a God.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I'm sorry. I absolutely
August 24, 2009 - 13:25 ET by Chris NormanI'm sorry. I absolutely refuse to believe that a McCain Administration would have been anywhere near as liberal/socialist/fascist as the Obama Administration. It's hyperbole and I think most people who said that said it out of frustration. If Obama gets his way and even if a conservative president and congress are elected over the course of the next two elections, it will be almost impossible to dismantle the programs and undo the damage being done now. The only way it will happen is if the numbers elected are overwhelming enough to render the Democrats and moderate Republicans powerless - and it''ll be very difficult even then.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
all of the above
August 24, 2009 - 11:28 ET by candanceThe bowling ball Republicans went with McCain. The Democrats knew they were going to win as long as their candidate had a pulse, so they went with the most radical one they could find. The media portrayed him as a rock star.
But I disagree about the bait-and-switch. He told us exactly what his plans were, but no one listened.
candance: "But I disagree
August 24, 2009 - 12:02 ET by dashercandance: "But I disagree about the bait-and-switch. He told us exactly what his plans were, but no one listened. "
Exactly - No one listened, at least those who voted for him did not listen.
"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O'Rourke
All of the Above, Plus...
August 24, 2009 - 11:41 ET by GothampcMy first answer is because people lost their common sense and turned the election into American Idol.
People thought they were in the frying pan in 2008. So they voted to jump in the fire with Obama.
Independents voted, along with the dead and illegal aliens through Acorn, because they thought Obama was the new Kennedy.
The GOP screwed up and thought they should dump conservatism in favor of getting some swing voters which didn't believe in party principles.
The GOP ran a candidate that had no chance of winning. McCain's only popularity came from the breath of fresh air that was Sarah Palin.
HBO
August 24, 2009 - 11:53 ET by StarAZApparently HBO has some special on how The One was Chosen...coming in Nov. Even the trailer shots of the adoring stadium crowds look quaint now--it may be a big sad irony show. I doubt I will be interested--and probably won't have HBO by then anyhow.
I blame Simon Cowell, too.
August 24, 2009 - 11:58 ET by kevcadI blame Simon Cowell, too. He brought over Amrican Idol to us, and the majority of young voters were turned into the American Idol electorate, who would vote for any pretty contestant, not content of experience and qualifactions.
Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields
be fair, kev
August 24, 2009 - 12:05 ET by candanceDid you vote for McCain because of his character, or because of the R after his name?
→ candance
August 24, 2009 - 12:12 ET by Cool ArrowI voted for McCain because of the Hammer & Sickle after his opponent's name.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
that is my point, cool
August 24, 2009 - 12:18 ET by candanceFor better or for worse, Republicans vote based on party lines just like everyone else. We can't tell our children to vote for character and personal conviction, then admit that we're voting for a slimy character just because of the R on their name.
It is what it is.
~I voted
August 24, 2009 - 12:33 ET by choselife3xFor the Palin after his name. Still didn't go down easy.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Both, Candance. McCain had
August 24, 2009 - 15:31 ET by kevcadBoth, Candance. McCain had a resume with experience and integrity many miles long while Obama had 'thismuch'.
And Sarah, too. 'Twas more of the bottom of the ticket than the top thing, as Ann Coulter has often remarked herself.
Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields
~The thing is..
August 24, 2009 - 12:31 ET by choselife3xMost of what people didn't like about the Bush Administration were things that Republicans either aren't supposed to do, or don't generally do.
1. Government expansion-not exactly a plank in the Republican platform (read: exact opposite of what conservatives stand for)
2. Government spending-ditto (yes JWF, I know Bush was an average spender, but the Repub Congress didn't exactly exercise restraint)
3. Starting a war-Every other one in the past century was begun under a Democrat.
4. Amnesty for illegals(attempted)-Definitely not something conservatives or even most 'moderates' want.
NOW...Since Bush and the other repubs acted like Democrats and people didn't like it, the sheeple voted for the other guys. Hahahahaha..more of the same, and piled higher and deeper.
If the Republicans return to their conservative roots they can't be beaten. Low taxes, less government, more money and autonomy for the people. Who doesn't want to keep more of what they earn and invest it how they see fit?
This is a great opportunity for conservatives. Personally, I'd love to see some of our returning vets run for office. Let's trade in the lawyers for some guys and gals who have put their lives on the line to defend the Constitution.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
I picked all of the above,
August 24, 2009 - 12:50 ET by bigtimerI picked all of the above, but as far as I am concerned, the SRM ran a 24/7 campaign for their messiah, and they are still doing so, as he has been too...he has been running a constant campaign since taking office...it's been disgusting, I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime...people are sick of seeing him 24/7...his brilliant team really needs to get a clue, then again, I hope they don't...after-all, it is helping our side of the aisle in the long run...people are waking up across this land.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
I am THE example
August 24, 2009 - 13:09 ET by JayHI didn't vote... I wasn't especially enamored with either choice. HOWEVER, I didn't know that Obama was THAT far left. I really felt that it made little difference who was president, and sometimes envisioned that good would come from an Obama presidency.
So, I have a confession.... I have been apathetic for most of my adult life when it comes to be politically informed/active. I felt that even though I might disagree with some philosophies, all would be OK. Also, I simply have kept busy, leaving things to other people to take care of. Overall, I can't say that I've been pleased with the direction the country has been going (in many respects, and over a good bit of time), but my attitude has been akin to saying "whatever".
Now, I see how this has been a grave mistake, and I sincerely apologize for taking our great country for granted. It is deplorable that it apparently has pretty much taken the country's financial ruin in order for me to take notice. This is shameful... never again.
So, I have spent a good amount of time to become informed with the current state of things. And, the more I've studied, the more angry I've become at the liberty some are taking in order to deceive and suppress. It is so bereft of any integrity whatsoever - It's disgusting.
Here is how I intend to proceed, and I believe there are literally millions just like me...
Never again will I leave the health of the country in everyone else's hands. The freedoms we have are wonderful, and my former lacking approach is inexcusable. I will be involved, and if pulling some friends in means, I am an un-american astroturfer or something, then so be it. Everyone has their circles of influence. I will no longer sit idly by and allow truth to be trampled in deference to not making waves (at all cost). Of course, the situation will dictate the approach I take, but it is not good to allow ignorance, illogic, or deceit go unchecked. I will be more strong in passing along my beliefs to my children (and future grandchildren), and anyone else who thinks I may have something of value to offer - not because I want to indoctinate, but because I care for them. I will consider more how I am proud of the United States, and how I have many wonderful reasons to do so. I will be more thankful to those who have (and do) protect our constitution and freedoms, and I will thoughtfully engage in how I to can join and help towards this wonderful cause.
Contrary to popular thought, the notion of keeping the status quo is a fantasy. You are either moving onward in upward, or you are unwittingly moving down and out. The choice is ours.
- Jay
PS. In years past, I thought the accusation of the MSM being biased was a bit exaggerated (again, I really hardly spent much time with it). Now, I am appalled and pissed off with the travesty that is the MSM.
With knowledge comes power
August 24, 2009 - 13:18 ET by BlondeWelcome to the Dark Side.
I hope he fails, too.
Jay~
August 24, 2009 - 13:32 ET by Georgia GirlWow. That was an honorably honest, humble and thoughtful post. We all learn some tough lessons along the way -- and sometimes you don't know what you don't know when you don't know it. Huh? [I made that up, as eloquent as it sounds. LOL.]
I was not thrilled with the "conservative" choice this past election either. But I was pretty afraid Obama was going to be really bad in a far left way. There were also a couple of really key points (quite important to me personally) that McCain did have...combine that with being highly suspicious of Obama's honesty and character, and I became increasingly convicted (at the end) that McCain had to win. To be honest, Obama has been so much worse than I could have imagined -- and I imagined that he'd be really bad! But I did not realize all the things he could get around to take control...if I had, instead of feeling "fairly freaked out" the day after elections, my hair may have been falling out. LOL.
Thanks for your post. Even if we are "faceless" on here, it was still courageous to express what you did. And I think it helps to hear what people were thinking when they didn't vote. I get where you were coming from. If it helps, I feel badly that I didn't do more to "get the vote out." There's always more we can do as Americans. This is a wake-up call, for sure. I see how it has been positive in some ways.
Jay - And Others
August 24, 2009 - 13:33 ET by DoktorFrankenIsn't it amazing how a nation can believe that there was (or still is) a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - with absolutely NO proof whatsoever - and yet that same nation does not realize that the news and entertainment media and the entire public educational systems are totally Leftist?
Here's something else people should be aware of - the Ultra-Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, with proof:
http://www.discovert...
http://www.rense.com...
So, welcome, Ray to the adults who want to keep America American.
Thank You for the Hospitable NB Welcome, Blonde, GG, and Doktor
August 24, 2009 - 15:04 ET by JayHGeorgia Girl, I own my previous apathy... though I agree with your sentiment that with the MSM being in the left's pocket, it will be require all of us to do what we can to for others and for the revival of our country (which is more than posting to the choir on NB (of course, I know you know this, GG)). I wish I would have joined you at the ballot box last year, and I know I am not alone in that. I appreciate the forgiveness and that you (collectively you) having been fighting the good fight while so many of us have been asleep. Good on you for being able to find a silver lining despite the precarious (and potentially disastrous) place this administration is leading us. I believe I speak for many in that though we've irresponsibly been hitting the snooze (and are now late to class), we are coming to play for real. After having been annoyed (from the arm's length distance) by the continual incremental degradation thats been done to our country, I think a lot are saying we've had enough of this pussy-footing around, and now we are coming to play for keeps. We're not down with takeover, and after that, let's "walk back" a lot of those encroachments that has taken place leading up to this.... Just so everyone's clear on what it means to be an American under our Constitution.
Doktor, the media's stance on the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is incredible. Hilarious if it weren't such a serious. I applaud their creativity in either staying so out-of-touch, or in their brazen deceit. The only reason I would think that they are not trying to mislead is because even liars know that sometimes it is good to tell the truth... when they can so easily be called on it. So, it is concerning that they have passed the point of caring. On the other hand, at least it is clear for anyone who takes a good look at things. The media (and the left) have jumped the shark in many respects and their hubris will be their demise.
I appreciate NB for the sound reasoning it employs. I've been around a lot of sites in the past couple of months. Going with truth is a good tact.
Decades
August 24, 2009 - 13:19 ET by DoktorFrankenDecades of brainwashing and Socialist and anti-Right education and constant news and entertainment media bombardment were the preludes to the Mysterious One. And he's almost half black. Whoooo!
The constant lies from the Left (''Bush lied, people died!'', etc. etc. etc.) is an impossible thing to counter when the media is 98% owned and rooting for ''The Left''. When an entire nation cannot get the truth something's got to give. In this instance, it's our Liberty and Freedoms that are under attack from the most Anti-American politician ever - who just so happens to be president with the assistance of a Leftist Congress.
Most importantly - People are greedy SOBs wanting something for nothing no matter what the cost.
Re Johnny Mac
August 24, 2009 - 13:57 ET by slickwillie2001I've never been a fan of Johnny Mac, but I am a Republican and I accept the primary process, which to me means that I will vote for the winner of the primary whoever it is, and in return I hope other Republicans will vote for the winner of the primary when my favorite candidate wins. If it doesn't work that way, no Republican will ever win the Presidency. That's the compact you sign up to when you join a political party.
Had McCain won, we would likely be bouncing off the walls now over what he might be doing, but I am confident that the republic would not be in danger of being lost to fascist socialism as it is now.
Re repairing the damage, this is a fantasy of those that sit out elections in a fit of pique. It may be impossible to repair the Bamster damage. The odds of a Republican supermajority in 2010 are next-to-zero. In 2012, –still very long odds. It takes a simple majority to block legislation, but it takes a supermajority to reverse what a previous administration has done.
Unfortunately
August 24, 2009 - 18:07 ET by ChaitealoverThe primary process ceases to work when non-party members are permitted to vote in the party's primary. That's one of the main reasons a RINO like McCain won the Republican nomination. If ALL primaries were restricted to party members only, a candidate that adheres to the party's principles would win. I think there should also be a time limit to keep people from switching parties just before the primary.
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
It never fails to amaze me...
August 24, 2009 - 14:02 ET by PrairieSkyhow gullible, uninformed, or both, the American people can be when it comes to who they vote for for president. I've seen this happen three times in my lifetime-The first was Carter, the second was Clinton, and the third, and likely the worst, is Obama. Granted, Obama did have the media acting as his cheerleaders the entire time, and helping to control what info was put out about him. But, there were plenty of other information avenues out there that people just didn't investigate or listen to, and the bottom line was that voters just didn't do their homework when it came to Obama, and made a very poor choice for president as a result. Many of these people are now experiencing "buyer's remorse", and unfortunately we are all paying the price for it.
None of what is happening with Obama comes as a surprise to those of us who didn't vote for him. We saw who and what he really was, and warned of what would happen if he were elected, many times, right here on NB. Let's just hope that if anything good comes out of this mess, it is that people will again be skeptical of what they are told by a presidential candidate, will not buy the propaganda sold to them by the candidate and/or the media, and will do their homework and find their own answers.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Sky... Speaking of
August 24, 2009 - 14:06 ET by bigtimerSky...
Speaking of Carter, they had a guy named Mike West I think it was on the Wa. Journal this morning...he has written a book about Carter and his administration and the damage that man has done since in office to this day....I really enjoyed the segment, not some of the idiot callers, and I do mean raving idiots....but I am going to get the book...in fact looking forward to it...I'll look it up in a bit and put a link here in a bit for any of those interested.
Edit~ His name is Mike Evans, not West...sorry about that..
Here are a couple links.
http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=WJE&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=WJ&Rot_HT=205
http://www.amazon.com/Jimmy-Carter-Liberal-World-Chaos/dp/0935199330
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt... I missed that segment...
August 24, 2009 - 14:10 ET by PrairieSkybut that sounds like a very interesting book. Please do post a link, because I'd like to read this...Sounds great! Thanks for the heads up!
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Sky... I edited my
August 24, 2009 - 14:18 ET by bigtimerSky...
I edited my comment and the links are there above. ;-)
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt...Saw it and I got it!!
August 24, 2009 - 14:21 ET by PrairieSkyThis is why I love NB and all of our great NB'ers! Thanks!! :)
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
The media will also miss the
August 24, 2009 - 14:11 ET by jkwtradingThe media will also miss the revolution coming in June of 2010...
jkw... They better have
August 24, 2009 - 14:30 ET by bigtimerjkw...
They better have their Kleenex boxes at the ready, because they sure as sh!t didn't in 94...just ask Judy, Judy, Judy Woodruff...I'll never forget it....and I'm just using her as one example.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
The state run media missed
August 24, 2009 - 15:46 ET by 10ksnookerThe state run media missed 1994 ...
They won't really "miss" it....
August 24, 2009 - 19:54 ET by Indiana JoeThey just won't believe it until they see it.
"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1
Other: besides being
August 24, 2009 - 15:17 ET by RR GOPOther: besides being uninformed, unwillingly to be lifelong learners, just plain ignorant and wanting the government to make their lives easier I'd say it has to be that most Americans don't know what the hell socialism is.
And if they do know, it's easier to simply deny it could happen here as the thought of that possibility impinges on their comfort zones...not unlike the likelihood of another terrorist attack, much less one affecting them personally.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Damn!
August 24, 2009 - 19:53 ET by Indiana JoeVoted too quick, I didn't read far enough down!
Switching to "All of the above" in 3...2...1...Mark!
;^)
"Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1
I've done that.
August 25, 2009 - 14:38 ET by jawebster1Jim Webster
Voters ignored Obama
August 24, 2009 - 20:01 ET by HogTideRebelCatsAnother reason is that sadly the majority of Americans ignore anything political their whole life, and then vote in Presidential elections with nearly zero knowledge. Most Americans cannot name the two Senators from their own State. Most cannot tell you the three branches of government. Sad but true.
HogTide...Sad is right...You're correct...
August 25, 2009 - 16:57 ET by PrairieSkyin your statements...The ignorance of American History, civics and current world events on the part of too many Americans is scary, and a president like Obama is a direct result of it. People don't think for themselves...they don't ask the hard questions...too often, people accept what they hear or read in the media as gospel, and don't bother to do their own homework.
You said it...Sad, but true.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Definately all of
August 24, 2009 - 20:17 ET by JAJTDefinately all of above....
the media did a great job of lying and hiding any truth to further their agenda.
everyone wanted a black president to show that we were no longer stuck in the past and racists anymore.
i truly believe Bush was a good man who was destroyed because he confronted issues and problems that most people would like to sweep under the carpet and ignore.
JAJT
Because at the core, we are
August 24, 2009 - 23:59 ET by fitzfongBecause at the core, we are populated with a bunch of stupid, lazy, disengaged, ideologically incoherent sheep who will mindlessly follow the most effective Border Collie. They call themselves "moderates".
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Rush explained "Socialism" and "Fascism" on his...
August 25, 2009 - 14:36 ET by jawebster1show today. Socialism is where the government owns the country's businesses. Fascism is where the government doesn't own, but controls the country's businesses. Obama appears to headed towards a Fascist form of government, though by owning two car companies and some banks, I would say he has dipped his big toe into Socialism. Jim Webster
they'd take hemlock
August 26, 2009 - 09:52 ET by foolnomorethe voting masses ,sheeepable,mob,koolaider's,what have you,,, it was just pay back-time at all cost..
Why we have (had) a Republic instead of a Pure Democracy
August 26, 2009 - 18:38 ET by wotsiznamewotsizname Those (not ? better decision making old white guys) Founding Fathers (along with Founding Mothers who influenced them) knew that historically, democracies run by the current passions of the people failed. Hence the Republic; where sincere and educated members are chosen to debate, evaluate, and choose outcomes for the common good, based unemotionally upon the workable and agreed upon rules (Bill of Rights and Constitution) of the Nation. Now we have a leader chosen emotionally by pure democracy. This is what the Founders painstakingly sought to prevent. Now the mob is in sole power of our country's future - unless we use the representative democracy to prevent it. To our political employees: Stop destroying our way of life and follow our rules or you're fired.