Giuliani
8% (277 votes)
Huckabee
3% (102 votes)
McCain
14% (504 votes)
Romney
61% (2206 votes)
Thompson
15% (526 votes)
Total votes: 3615
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Who Will Win GOP Nomination?Giuliani 8% (277 votes) Huckabee 3% (102 votes) McCain 14% (504 votes) Romney 61% (2206 votes) Thompson 15% (526 votes) Total votes: 3615
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Mitt is IT!
January 21, 2008 - 07:40 ET by Six String SpiffMcCain, you are no Conservative. You have committed more violence on the constitution than anyone else in the GOP. You are a RINO. Enough of the wishy washy 'reaching across the isle' BS. When I cast my vote, it is because they are they person whom I think will help get MY AGENDA passed. NOT to 'get along'. What's the point of 'getting along' when I would require a sex change to do so?
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Rudy, Rudy
January 22, 2008 - 15:19 ET by wfanI like Romney. But he cannot win this election. This can no longer be a race about who is the most conservative. That debate is over. It's time to take the best of the bunch who can win.
Rudy will stand up to the media and the dems. He will appoint the right judges and fight an aggressive war on terror.
Its time to take a serious look at Rudy and I think after Florida we will.
Even Reagan wasn't perfect. Sandra Day O'Connor?? Seriously.
In a poll like this I say,
January 21, 2008 - 08:46 ET by SchnikeysIn a poll like this I say, "Vote for what you would like to see."
Thus, I voted for Sir Fred. And the mark on my primary absentee ballot is most likely going to indicate the same thing.
But alas, when you line up the things that McCain says about troop force in Iraq with the social emphasis on military around where I live, there may not be much to be had with a Fred vote.
Mitt might win, it is true.
January 21, 2008 - 08:39 ET by Warner Todd HustonMitt might win, it is true. But the only Republican ON that list if Thompson. The rest are left of center, moderates that don't deserve the title.
I agree,
January 21, 2008 - 13:04 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI gave this some thought...with most of the questions the response is easy. I gave the vote to Romney, but I would love to see Fred. My 21yo son even donated to his campaign...We have early voting and we have already voted for Fred.
Mitt will win nomination-who will be the VP!
January 21, 2008 - 08:45 ET by PawpawNMitt will win Repub nomination. Who will the VP is anyone's guess! Could be any number of people....hey, won't Don Rumsfield be a hoot or Cheney again!!!
Liberal tailspin
January 21, 2008 - 10:40 ET by GForceHow about General David H. Petraeus?
That would send the left into a tailspin!
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"-Aristotle
That would take balls as
January 21, 2008 - 16:12 ET by red_dragon311That would take balls as big as chruch bells, but how about it
I think it will be Romney/ Thompson
"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin
MITT IS IT !
January 21, 2008 - 08:52 ET by VT Con ManThough we have yet to have a true Republican only primary vote yet, it seems as though Mr Romney has the backing and $ to get the nod. Though not a "perfect conservative", he has a track record of free market success none of the others has.
All the MSM blather about McCain is disengenuous, and not really grounded in reality.
In it to win it
January 21, 2008 - 09:12 ET by Iowa BoyWhile my heart is with Senator Thompson, you still have to win. I believe Governor Romney has the best chance of beating the rest of the Republican field in spite of the Often Wrong Media's desire for Sen. McCain or Gov. Huckabee. I also believe that put side-by-side with the Democrat nominee, Gov. Romney is also a winner.
Is he a true Conservative? No. Still, a partial-conservative is emmensly better than all-liberal.
Though, if I could advise Gov. Romney on his first nominee for the Supreme Court, I believe Sen. Thompson would be an excellent choice.
"That's just my opinion. I could be wrong." - Dennis Miller
I totally agree. I wish Fred
January 21, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Ryan Mc.I totally agree. I wish Fred had shown more in the early debates to spark a move but he didn't. He sat back and thought people would just know that he is the conservative. With the general ignorance of the electorate and indpendants voting in all the early states we conservatives have a real problem. We need to change this system for 2012. Iowa and NH need to be replaced with Republican only primaries with actual conservatives. Maybe a state like Alabama or Idaho. We should make all of the New England states dead last.
Mitt
January 21, 2008 - 09:14 ET by DingbatL ike others, I wish Fred would have done more than cavort with his trophy (not that I blame him), but Mitt will do fine. He has done things that relate. The worst personal attack they can make is that he's a Morman and I think most voters will ignore that. If Shrillary is the Lib candidate, Romney's personal traits will particularly shine. With either Lib, his record of having done things will shine. Any Rep that can run a Lib state like MA, has skills.
McCain keeps digging a hole. He's right on the war. That's it. He's now even on the man made global warming scam and no drillin in Anwar.
Romney's #1 advantage in the general election
January 21, 2008 - 09:38 ET by RJIf the economy worsens, Mitt's practical damage repair experience in the Olympics, in the business world and in MA will stand out against anyone the Dems nominate.
If the economy is bad, people will want a fixer, not a Socialist tax and spender.
("It's the economy, stupid!")
Prediction + bias compendium...
January 21, 2008 - 09:16 ET by sarcasmoA brokered convention with Paul (making these meaningless NB polls look even-more biased & foolish) McCain, Romney, and Huckabee. Rudy & Fred -- much as y'all like him -- are likely to be gone pre-convention. Hell, Fred almost conceded the other night, but was able to play the media instead. Doesn't matter, though.
I hope his mom gets better, but it looks as if Fred's campaign is terminal, as Rudy's will also be unless he wins this state, which looks unlikely. As usual, I think Ron's the ONLY chance for Republicans to beat the Democrat$ this time, but I found this guy's way of saying "Paul has no chance" more interesting than usual...Don't be fooled by our "moneybombs," either -- another one's going on today, but Hillary's chip$tack dwarfs everyone else's and Obama is if anything even harder to beat IMO.
And for a brief compendium of the media bias & stuff you've probably missed...(The Paul campaign remains busy largely-ignoring opportunities & engaging in an internal libertarian catfight, so you're probably safe from us!) I sure feel very safe these days...As always, for a guaranteed-reply, please PM me, as I tend to miss a lot of stuff here these days.
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. (Ok, here's ironclad proof our detractors are right...)
Paul has NO CHANCE
January 21, 2008 - 10:19 ET by Six String SpiffIt's unfortunate Sarc, but true. First, we defeat the ultra libs, THEN we get rid of all the dead wood and bing in a real, TRUE Conservative. Like Ron Paul. Ron would get my vote, if it were 20 years ago. But we have a GWOT going on, and the man wants to sit and watch. No thanks. All of his other ideas are good core beliefs, but he is past his time.
No, he's the only one WITH any chance!
January 23, 2008 - 13:32 ET by sarcasmoAnd if/when someone else is on the ticket and loses, this comment is a marker (like my inflaton-rants a year+ ago) for another 'I told you so.' People really-hate those 4 words when they come from me, but sometimes I feel the need to say 'em.
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. (All purpose anti-slander-link, sadly-needed these days...)
New FL poll
January 21, 2008 - 10:16 ET by HermanoThere will be a Florida poll released later today. Preliminary numberes are Romney at 25%, McCain and Guilliani close behind at 20 and 19% respectively.
I hope like hell that's
January 21, 2008 - 13:22 ET by Ryan Mc.I hope like hell that's true. Who's poll is it?
Rasmussen
January 21, 2008 - 13:30 ET by HermanoRasmussen - details still are not available.
Here is the FL poll article
January 21, 2008 - 14:48 ET by Hermanohttp://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/florida/election_2008_florida_republican_primary
Your Quote for the Day...
January 21, 2008 - 10:24 ET by heldmyw"When the politicians complain that TV turns the proceedings into a circus, it
should be made clear that the circus was already there, and that TV has merely
demonstrated that not all the performers are well trained."
- Edward R. Murrow
I would love to see a
January 21, 2008 - 10:43 ET by dmntd1I would love to see a Romney/Thompson ticket.
I really think that questioning others' masculinity is a game probably better left to people who haven't had more cock in and out of them than a Tyson Chicken regional distribution center. AceOfSpades 06162007
Me too.
January 21, 2008 - 11:00 ET by Six String SpiffRomney/Thompson would be excellent. Or Romney and Condi. Just to STICK IT to the race/gender obsessed media!
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Condi!
January 21, 2008 - 11:17 ET by HermanoTalk about the smartest woman in the world! And she has class, too.
Condi? Thanks, but no thanks
January 21, 2008 - 11:25 ET by Jack BauerWith the greatest respect, Condi Rice is the biggest disappointment to conservatives since the Senate found Clinton not guilty.
She's been nothing short of a disaster. Totally captured by the liberal hold-overs and careerists at State.
PROOF: Er, how about the President's current idiocy in the Middle East running around looking for a "legacy." PLEASE!
And I thought she was going to be one of the greats.
JB, maybe State is not the
January 21, 2008 - 11:53 ET by HermanoJB, maybe State is not the best place for her. She surely put her best face forward as the NSA. I have never been a big fan of State - just seems to be a hole for big-shot wannabees. Or perhaps my vision is just clouded because of Emmett Fitz-Hume (Chevy Chase) in "Spies Like Us." Regarding W's "legacy," it will not be peace in the Middle East, obviously. He had never really put any effort there until last year. Do you think Rice may still have her day or has it already passed?
herman -- it really pains
January 21, 2008 - 12:44 ET by Jack Bauerherman -- it really pains me because I genuinely had high hopes with Condi. But something happened to her.
Now I know she answers to the President, and is there to fulfill his will.
But can you see much difference between most State inititiaves today, and Halfbright's reign?
Right down to the latest same old Middle East peace crap, which is just even more pressure put on Israel to give.
I'm not diminishing Condi's intellect in any way. A brilliantly, talented woman. Brainiac indeed.
But something happens to Republicans once they get sucked into State. Now John Bolton, he da man!
Right on with Bolton. The
January 21, 2008 - 12:57 ET by HermanoRight on with Bolton. The chicken-sh*ts on the dem side are just not willing to show some balls. Maybe in the world today it is still not easy (or possible) for a woman to accomplish much in terms of foreign policy outside of western locales. This does not have anything to do with ability, but rather the lack of flexibility on the part of other governments. I honestly do not know if State is truly at the call of the (republican) president. While I do not live in DC, I have heard from some who have that they have their agenda and if it does not mirror the President's, then too bad for him.
Jack, I agree with your assessment of Dr. Rice.
January 21, 2008 - 21:43 ET by R D HelmIt seemed that when she moved over to Foggy Bottom, it appeared the well-intrenched gutter-culture in that hideously depressing place rolled her like a cheap rug in short order.
And she did not do much for me during her short tenure as National Security Advisor, either. I really do not think she has a very tight grip on our Islamo-supremecist friends. I believe her area of knowledge was oriented more towards Soviet studies, which bears little resemblance to the current GWOT.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
Agreed RD. She no longer
January 21, 2008 - 21:50 ET by Jack BauerAgreed RD. She no longer rocks my boat.
McCuck
January 21, 2008 - 11:08 ET by OklahomaIsShapedFunnyBut you know to prepare for the inevitable McCain / Huckabee
"everymorning and everyday, I bossa nova with you"
McCuck... Yuck
January 21, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Six String SpiffOh Great. Bill Clinton in disguise, and a loud mouthed tax happy, religious fanatic. No thanks.
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Already been done
January 21, 2008 - 13:09 ET by bmoviesWe already had a Romney/Thompson in the White House once before. It was known as Bush/Quayle. And look at how that turned out.
"Bush hoped that Quayle, as a movement conservative, would energize or at least neutralize the G.O.P.'s right wing, which had always viewed Bush with suspicion. "A lot of the high-echelon members of this Administration are considered to be in the moderate camp," says Republican national chairman Clayton Yeutter, "so Vice President Quayle serves the President as a very effective liaison to the more conservative segment of the party."
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972972-2,00.html
Panderific
January 21, 2008 - 11:25 ET by third eyeIm not sure if "Mittens" is the candidate we can place our bets on just yet, but than again, I guess that depends on your intepretation of the word "bet."
$$$$
January 21, 2008 - 11:47 ET by ChaitealoverThe question is who will win, so I guessed Romney, although who I want to win would be Fred. One [of several] things I don't like about Romney, though, is the feeling I get whenever any very rich person uses their own money. He's buying the nomination, where other candidates need to get at least some of their backing from the public.
Chai
“That government is best which governs least” – Ronald Reagan
They are still voting for
January 21, 2008 - 11:56 ET by HermanoThey are still voting for him, though. He may think his efforts are best made in the area of campaigning instead of fundraising. I like the idea of him putting so much money into his own venture. If you believe enough in something, you should be willing to jump in with both feet.
How does one 'Buy' a nomination?
January 21, 2008 - 11:59 ET by Six String SpiffWhat does it matter how much money one has if the people don't like you? Hillary is SWIMMING in cash, and she has already suffered 1 defeat, and almost lost to 'un commited' (LOL!). It's going to be Romney and Obama.
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Class envy politics is the
January 21, 2008 - 14:15 ET by Conservative VoiceClass envy politics is the most annoying. Money did really well for Forbes? How about Ross Perot? Romney isn't buying the election unless he is giving money to his voters directly for the express reason to vote for him.
People you should worry about are those who are use to using other people's money ( taxes ) to buy votes.
Romney will be the Christian
January 21, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Chris NormanRomney will be the Christian we offer up to the lions. Sigh. Someone better cheer me up quick.
Chris N What?
January 21, 2008 - 12:01 ET by Six String SpiffIslamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range At 0800 Daily.
Six String S, Huh?
January 21, 2008 - 13:29 ET by Chris NormanIt's still early here. Please expand on your remark.
I wanted you to elaborate on your Romney comment
January 21, 2008 - 14:00 ET by Six String SpiffHow will he be the Christian sent to the lions?
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It was symbolism - not to be
January 21, 2008 - 15:07 ET by Chris NormanIt was symbolism - not to be taken literally. I like Romney. I just don't happen to believe he has the oomph to win in the general election. That's nothing against him. I'm afraid that no one in the current GOP crop can win this time around. If I'm proved wrong, I will be more ecstatic.
→ Romney
January 21, 2008 - 15:16 ET by Cool ArrowRomney can beat Clinton, but not Obama
I ♣ My Seal
I disagree, Romney's uphill
January 21, 2008 - 15:19 ET by Conservative VoiceI disagree, Romney's uphill battle is the primary...not the general.
...other way around...
January 21, 2008 - 15:30 ET by vrwc13Republicans have been nice...Hillobama will use his religion against him, and not be nice.
v
As much as I'd like to
January 21, 2008 - 16:00 ET by Chris NormanAs much as I'd like to believe that intelligence and competence (not to mention conservative principles) can beat pandering and simplistic government solutions (not to mention the hyping of novelty), I just don't think it will this time - unless something happens that is so earth shattering that the Dem candidate destroys his or herself. The truth is, the GOP nominee will have to campign with one hand tied behind his back - no matter if it's Hillary or Obama. With a Republican Party as at odds with itself as it appears (even on NewsBusters), at this point, the indications are bleak. Like I said, I hope I'm proved wrong.
A Manchurian Candidate?
January 21, 2008 - 12:40 ET by pocomocoAfter watching McCain in the Senate and in interviews over the years, I get the sense that he is a distressed person who has a number of scores to settle with his party and with the American people - which is tantamount to a vendetta.
If he becomes president, his first task will be granting amnesty to illegal aliens and opening the borders, thus putting a finger in the eyes of the American people for rebuking his immigration bill.
The second task, the destruction of the Republican party for its lack of support, will take a little longer.
Carter’s four year damage to the American economy can be chalked up to naiveté as he didn’t understand how the free market system worked.
On the other hand, McCain has a complete understanding and will, on purpose, bring the economy close to third-world status as he bankrupts Social Security, Medicare, and the health care and school systems - just for starters.
He is a man on a mission!
Not even NB is giving Ted
January 21, 2008 - 13:08 ET by wiwfNot even NB is giving Ted Nugent any love! :(
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
"Carter’s four year damage
January 21, 2008 - 13:28 ET by Roger the Shrubber"Carter’s four year damage to the American economy can be chalked up to naiveté as he didn’t understand how the free market system worked."
What was he doing as governor of Georgia those four years? Boiling peanuts? That's funny stuff.
Sad State of Affairs
January 21, 2008 - 14:08 ET by candanceI don't like any of those five names, but what can be done? Guess I'll go to the ballot anyway and vote like a good little robot - er....save the country from liberals.....
Huh?
January 21, 2008 - 14:19 ET by Lame CherryWarner Todd Huston is absolutely correct in Fred Thompson is the only Conservative on the list. I still maintain that if he stays in the race he will do better in Reagan Country and in so doing it will be a brokered convention where he will have the nomination due to Limbaugh's influence.
What is astounding here is the comments on Ron Paul as he is somehow like a broker for power. One has to have enough delegates to broker power. In looking at his backers who on Rense are anti Semite, anti Christian, anarchists and thugs, with Ron Paul stating he will not support the GOP, the intelligent person starts figuring out Ron Paul for all his "against the New World Order" is ripping apart the Republican Party which only benefits the globalist putting their people into the White House he claims to be against.
It all matches Rense, Jones, Quayle in being anarchists whose profit and power only comes about when the the Dem's and GOP are so out of whack that people are scared.
If Paul walks and quacks like a duck, he ain't no elephant in the room but is another shill for power of the quacking globalists.
Huckabee has breathed his last. McCain will chug along with those "independent democrat liberals" voting for him. Paul will have the conspiracy nuts herding the true Libertarians into his camp to pretend he is the Al Sharpton spokesman of the GOP. Giuliani will simply disappear in Florida as that is a Cuban Republican state and while it fits Rudy........it will fit the other candidates more.
Mitt though is being the pretty boy default horse of choice unless Thompson can garner enough votes and just keep plugging along in the elections.
I had hoped for Mr. Thompson as America requires a leader in what is coming up. Perhaps it might be a Romney/Thompson ticket, but I still see this as brokered convention on both the Democrats and Republicans as there is a deliberate effort to fragment these parties so a Chavez globalist will swoop in to rule with 30% of a vote.
The Chavez will be Hugo Gore and Chavez Bloomberg.
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There is a small difference
January 21, 2008 - 15:28 ET by Conservative VoiceThere is a small difference on who is more conservative, Romney or Fred. If Fred didn't support McCain's campaign law then Fred would be in my mind the conservative of the two.
Why Fred hasn't gotten more traction, and McCain and Huck ( the least conservative of the whole bunch ) are front runners ( with Romney slightly ahead ) is beyond me. I would of loved it if the race was between Rudy, Fred and Romney. Now we have to worry about splitting the conservative vote to stop the McCain and Huck getting too much momentum.
Ah, the "who's conservative and who's not" police
January 21, 2008 - 15:33 ET by vrwc13Ah, the "who's conservative and who's not" police are out again.
v
Social Conservative:
"One who favors social policies based on a particular reading of Judeo-Christian values, generally in favor of public prayer and the right to own guns, and opposed to abortion rights, same-sex marriage and the teaching of evolution in public schools." Source Watch
Here is the problem vr with
January 21, 2008 - 15:45 ET by Conservative VoiceHere is the problem vr with your version of conservative. You think that social conservative trumps everything. Huck is a social conservative, but he doesn't own the market on social conservative. He is a liberal on Fiscal policy and is luke warm on security ( foreign policy and illegal immigration ). You need all three legs to be considered a conservative. Rudy, Fred and Mitt are more conservative than Huck. The only thing Huck has over Mitt is gun control. Everything else Mitt trumps him, its not even close. Fred trumps him in all areas. And Rudy personal life loses on pro-life and gays, politically with guns...but has promised strong conservative judges ( which is all should that matter to a social conservative ).
Huck is a populist, not a conservative.
If you can put Giuliani
January 21, 2008 - 15:51 ET by vrwc13If you can put Giuliani (grade of F as Social conservative, grade of A as hypocrite as a abortion rights Catholic)down as more conservative than Huckabee, then we have no common ground on which to discuss.
Btw: Romney was for abortion (and same-sex marriage?) before he was against it. That's a big one in my book.
v
Social Conservative:
"One who favors social policies based on a particular reading of Judeo-Christian values, generally in favor of public prayer and the right to own guns, and opposed to abortion rights, same-sex marriage and the teaching of evolution in public schools." Source Watch
Rudy is more conservative
January 21, 2008 - 16:00 ET by Conservative VoiceRudy is more conservative than Huck based on the other areas of conservatism. And he has promised to appoint judges that will satisfy the social conservatives. Personal life, he loses in the social conservative realm.
So what if Mitt was before something and is now against it? Can't people convert? How many politicians admit they were wrong? Zero. They all twist their past positions in political speak to pretend they haven't changed. No the big problem with Mitt with you isn't his position on abortion and gay marriage, its his religion...so please don't pretend "that's a big one", when anyone who has followed your posts here know that is a bunch of BS. You have stated you couldn't vote for Romney because he was a Mormon. If you want to retrack those words, then I will take you more seriously on what policies Mitt has that bothers you.
no retraction here...
January 21, 2008 - 16:07 ET by vrwc13Faith, Family, Freedom and in that order. Everything else is all relative.
btw: considering his (Romney) faith, how could he EVER had been pro-abortion?
v
Faith, Family, Freedom - MikeHuckabee.com
You assume that he was
January 21, 2008 - 17:16 ET by Conservative VoiceYou assume that he was pro-abortion. He was never pro-abortion...you assume that because he was pro-choice he is pro-abortion. I see the abortion issue as more of a libertarian issue than a conservative one. Most reasonable people hope that abortions do not happen. The pro-life crowd ( which I am a member of ) would like abortions to be against the law, because we like laws that reflect and define morality. Romney's position before was leave the choice to the individual, keep government out of it. There are a number of pro-choice members in the LDS faith, and it does not contradict the church's teachings. Because we are also against smoking, yet no one thinks nothing of it if someone is against writing anti-tobacco laws.
The problem with abortion is where does life begin? For me personally, I don't see anything wrong for a rape victim or an incest victim to get cleaned out within the first 6 weeks. On the other hand I have a huge problem with partial birth abortions for whatever reason. You may on the other hand think hard line, and consider all abortions to be an evil act no matter what, and that is fine for you.
For me I don't think abortion should be a Presidential issue, because I don't think the President can really do much about it. Its not even a Judicial one, that is what caused the initial problem in the first place. The issue needs to be decided in Congress. But all in all I don't think government will solve this issue satisfactory as much as education will. So my official policy is I think government should allow abortions until Congress says otherwise, and also allow parents to be notified in the case of a minor, and that the mother is given all the options available to her, and a list of risks to her ( including emotional ) and understand what the procedure will do to the baby. Given all that and you will see abortions to be very rare.
Going on your tagline...Faith, Family, Freedom, what do you mean?
you assume that because he was pro-choice he is pro-abortion...
January 21, 2008 - 17:42 ET by vrwc13"You assume that he was pro-abortion. He was never pro-abortion...you assume that because he was pro-choice he is pro-abortion." CV
I guess it depends upon what the meaing of "is" is.
"The problem with abortion is where does life begin? For me personally, I don't see anything wrong for a rape victim or an incest victim to get cleaned out within the first 6 weeks." CV
Cleaned out! .... http://www.pathlight...
v
"Going on your tagline...Faith, Family, Freedom, what do you mean?" CV
Faith, Family, Freedom - MikeHuckabee.com can be explained thusly: "Faith doesn't just influence me. It really defines me. I don't have to wake up every day wondering what do I need to believe," Huckabee says in the ad. "Let us never sacrifice our principles for anybody's politics. Not now, not ever."
Faith (above all things), Family (next), Freedom (what this nation is founded on), then everything else...
So now I am Clinton. The
January 21, 2008 - 18:11 ET by Conservative VoiceSo now I am Clinton. The problem is you are thinking black and white...if someone isn't a pro-lifer, then they must be all for abortions happening and in fact question the mental stability of mothers who carry full term. BS.
OK, thanks for defining what you mean by faith, what does that have to do with being conservative? There are a number of people who don't believe in God who are conservative, and there are a number of liberals who believe in God...Family, again pro-family doesn't mean you are conservative ( conversely being anti-family does mean you are not conservative ) Freedom...Freedom of what? To have an abortion? To smoke? To leave prison...the only freedom Huck agrees with is the last one.
THE best post of the day.
January 21, 2008 - 17:50 ET by Gary P JacksonTHE best post of the day.
ah the Romney tag-team back-slapping again...
January 21, 2008 - 17:59 ET by vrwc13Gary P says: "THE best post of the day":
"...you assume that because he was pro-choice he is pro-abortion" CV
Care to explain the difference?
v
"It depends upon what the meaning if "is" is." Hillary's husband
Ha! That's funny coming from you, vrwc
January 21, 2008 - 18:06 ET by RJ....one of the original members of the Three Amigos. How many times did you join up with other libs to pile on, you whining hypocrit?
Anti-abortion...pro-choice
January 21, 2008 - 18:35 ET by JerIn the same manner one can be anti-smoking but not in favor of a complete banning of the practice by the government...only that it be strictly regulated.
[And please, no accusations that I am equating human life with a cigarette. Just illustrating the comparative logic.]
Jer
and that was my point
January 21, 2008 - 18:37 ET by Conservative Voiceand that was my point exactly Jer. Thanks
Since the question here is
January 21, 2008 - 15:42 ET by bigtimerSince the question here is who will win the GOP nomination, not who we want to win I had to pick Romney...even though a lot of people here know I have been an ardent Thompson supporter since day one of his announcement...
Now the msm will keep on keeping on with the ignoring or making harsh attacks against Romney...it is going to be a tough fight so far...Romney needs more vigor in his speeches and replies when he is on the msm.....he is getting better at this IMO the more time goes on...he is going to need to.
Reagan Conservatives Exist But Not in the GOP Leadership
January 21, 2008 - 18:18 ET by dwillmoreRemembering the pathetic Congress that was controled by a GOP maority it is not difficult that our GOP is devoid of true conservative leadership. Fred was the closest we had to a conservative and he frankly blew it.
While I have always thought of casting a vote as an American duty I may be forced to abstain from voting for President in the upcomming election or vote for a Democrat. Frankly, I prefer voting for a person that is what they say they are than fools masquarading as conservatives.
McCain is an enemy of conservatism.
Hukabee is an enemy of conservatism.
Romney does not understand what conservatism is.
Guiliani is a JFK Democrat.
Thompson failed to make an honest effort.
3rd parties fail but when there is no party that supports your beliefs it is time to make one.
dm... I understand where
January 21, 2008 - 18:25 ET by bigtimerdm...
I understand where you are coming from and agree with most of your points to a degree...but not voting or voting for a dem please please remember we have everything to lose with the judges appointed, especially the Supreme Court Judges...it means everything for the shape of this country and through the Constitution as our Forefathers wanted it.
If Thompson endorses McCain
January 21, 2008 - 18:36 ET by Conservative VoiceIf Thompson endorses McCain what then? Or worse becomes his VP choice?
I will take a JFK Democrat over any today's Democrat.
Not sure what you meant by Romney not understanding what conservatism is.
It is Fred or Red in '08
January 21, 2008 - 22:08 ET by R D HelmI will be voting in the Super Tuesday primary. I will be casting my vote for Fred Thompson, whether or not he is still officially a candidate.
When the general election rolls around, if Fred is not on the ballot, I will be writing him in.
Unless he throws his support to Senator McShamus. In that case I will be voting for the libertarian candidate.
Unless that turns out to be Ron Paul, in which case I will skip completely over the presidential choices and vote only in the state and local contests.
George W. Bush will be the last RINO I will ever have voted for. Never again. And I mean never.
As I see it, George W. Bush is probably the bigest reason the conservative movement is in the shape it is in today. He has now been the leader of the party for over seven years. The man cannot even bring himself to close the border with Mexico!
I cannot in good conscience vote for another non-conservative for president.
Even if it means President Broom Hilda.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
So if you can't have you're
January 21, 2008 - 23:40 ET by Gary P JacksonSo if you can't have you're "perfect candidate" you just won't play? That's the kind of crap that will make sure Hillary Clinton or Barry Obama will get elected. And from you last sentence, it's obvious you don't care.
Glad to know it's all about you!
Fact is, a third party vote, a "write in vote", or a non-vote will indeed be a vote for the dims.
There is no such thing as the perfect candidate. Fred was a good choice, but he's not a good candidate. The reports on him were fairly correct. He didn't have the fire in the belly to get his campaign going. At best, he will run in Florida and on Super Tuesday taking votes away from Huckleberry and McCain. But even Fred's campaign manger is talking VP for Fred. And for those that didn't know, Fred supported McCain-Feingold. So there goes the "pure conservative" title.
Common sense should tell you instead of writing in Fred's name for the primary, you should vote for the one who will be the nominee. Honestly, that's gonna be Romney. Rudy has a slight chance of winning Florida, and that will make three in the running. So, the smart play is to either vote for Rudy or Romney. That is, if not having McCain as the nominee is your goal. Writing in Fred's name ain't gonna help anyone.
Sorry, but the "I'm gonna take my toys home" crowd really infuriates me!
Gary,
January 22, 2008 - 00:06 ET by R D HelmI understand your sentiment, and in many ways I empathize. However, we conservatives have been voting for one RINO after the other since 1988. We do it out of fear of the other party.
As long as we keep voting for these imposters, that is all the party will be dishing out from now on. It has been nothing but RINOs for twenty years, and look where it has gotten us. They keep parading them out, and we keep voting for them. I am guessing the party leadership is laughing its head off at how gullible we have become.
George W. Bush has all but destroyed the conservative movement in this country, either through indifference, outright hostility, or something in between. Maybe this country needs a reminder, as it has been nearly twenty-eight years since Jimmy Carter was run out of office.
If it takes another Jimmy Carter to lead to another Ronald Reagan, then that is what it will take. We do not need a center-left European style "conservative" party.
I can no-longer bring myself to vote for center-left "conservatives."
I just cannot.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
same crap new election
January 22, 2008 - 00:15 ET by candanceyou should vote for the one who will be the nominee.
1988: "Voo doo economics" George Bush.
1992: "Read my lips, no new taxes" George Bush
1996: "Best friends with John McCain" Bob Dole
2000: "Stop Al Gore" Bush JR
2004: "Stop John Kerry" Bush JR
2008: "Stop Hillary/Barack"
Yeppers, the GOP has rewarded our efforts by grooming good candidates whom we can trust. "Stick with us - it'll be better next time!" has become their official motto.
I knew we were in trouble
January 22, 2008 - 00:20 ET by Clear thinkerI knew we were in trouble the first time I heard the term 'compassionate conservative' used by the Bush team. Because I wanted Bush to win I ignored the feeling I got whenever I heard that term. I even told myself that they were just using the term to get him elected. Then we found out that he meant it.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
R D Helm...
January 21, 2008 - 23:48 ET by Clear thinkerI'm with you 110% on this.
And, I don't care that other people will try to blame people like us for whomever may win the White House. As far as I'm concerned it is they that will be putting us in danger.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
CT
January 21, 2008 - 23:59 ET by botgyeah who cares if Hillary apoints two SCOTUS judges and sets the society into a PC 'hate' crime, 'hate' speech death spiral? We have our point to make----all or nothing!!!!
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
What makes you think any of
January 22, 2008 - 00:11 ET by Clear thinkerWhat makes you think any of our RINO's will do any better with their picks?
If more Republicans felt the way you did, maybe they should have thought of that before they voted for the current bunch of front runners.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
CT
January 22, 2008 - 00:34 ET by botguntil 2 days ago i was voting for Duncan. And well i think Romney may get the nomination. Is he even my second choice? --why no but if there is a chance, just a chance to keep our children and grandchildren away from a judicial tyranny---i say take the chance----don't just fold. You want representatives who are willing to fight then be willing to fight. Get what we can now --- don't give a stinkin inch to these these libs!! Then push on go for more in 4 years!
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
botg, that's exactly my
January 22, 2008 - 00:37 ET by Clear thinkerbotg, that's exactly my point. I am fighting! I may end up fighting alone, but I will not compromise what I think is the right thing to do.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
so the 'right' thing
January 22, 2008 - 00:45 ET by botgis to enable Hillary to the WH? What are the results of your action/inaction? Had the same talks with people who were voting for Perot 'on principle' well their principles got us Clinton and again 'principles' will get us Clinton. With 'principles like that who needs enemies? "Wisdom cries in the streets" "Despise not the day of small things" "Look what do you see? a small cloud like a fist"
Supreme Court,