U.S.
21% (708 votes)
Germany
25% (819 votes)
Japan
51% (1679 votes)
South Korea
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Other
1% (49 votes)
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American Cars
June 28, 2008 - 18:03 ET by shawn228My brother in Law owed a Cadillac and it always broke down on him, My
friends Ford Explorer needed a new tranny after just 6 yr when the
warrenty ran out.
I have to admit the best memories and the coolest car I ever owed was an American car. It was a 87 Chevrolet IROC. It was a 5 speed 305 tune port injection. I had 2 twelve inch sub woofers in the back and a kick a$$ stereo.
The thing is, it was always in the shop. Oil Leaking, hoses leaking. RPMs did not drop when I shifted gears.
Since that car I have owed a 93 Honda Civic Del Sol, Then a 99 Honda Accord. Both cars were great no problems at all. In 01 I bought a 01 Acura CL s. Which I still have. I have been very partial to Honda, but a few months ago I bought a 08 Lexus IS250. It is a little underpowered but it gets 21 mpg and 29 freeway and I love driving it.
I don't have as much confidence in an American car, but I will not complain if somebody buys me a Corvette ;-)
Datsun 240Z
June 28, 2008 - 18:12 ET by CobraManI voted for Japan because of the Datsun 240Z. Man, I LOVED that car, even though the one I owned was used and a bit ragged around the edges. I swear that it could go as fast in reverse as it could forwards and it handled like a dream due to it's low center of gravity. I never did figure out how to work that bedeviled three-piece jack though.
Cobraman
June 28, 2008 - 18:15 ET by shawn228I agree with the Datsun. My friend owned one, it was very fast and loud too.
How about that jack?
June 28, 2008 - 18:19 ET by CobraManDid he ever figure out how to work that jack?
I have a love affair with
June 28, 2008 - 18:25 ET by Clear thinkerI have a love affair with almost any Mopar product from 1968-1971.
All others are not worth mentioning.
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Sweden makes one car that I
June 28, 2008 - 18:45 ET by Clear thinkerSweden makes one car that I am also in love with.
How about a top speed of 245 mph?!
Check it out... http://www.sportscarcup.com/koenigsegg-ccx/
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CT
June 28, 2008 - 20:10 ET byclick me
Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde. the EYE
botg... Not to shabby,
June 28, 2008 - 20:15 ET by Clear thinkerbotg...
Not to shabby, but I just like the koenigsegg-ccx better. Just a matter of personal taste I guess. I would still like to drive the Aero just once. Then spend the rest of my life paying off the speeding tickets.
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yeah CT
June 28, 2008 - 20:22 ET byi was just going for top speed production, personally i care more about who's in the vehicle with me than the vehicle itself.
Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde. the EYE
geeze
June 29, 2008 - 09:32 ET by Ran56245 MPH?.. wow.. if I wanted to get there that fast, I'd have left yesterday!.
"almost any Mopar product
June 28, 2008 - 19:09 ET by Indiana Joe"almost any Mopar product from 1968-1971."
Yeah! But I never actually owned one. ;^(
Indiana Joe... I have
June 28, 2008 - 19:27 ET by Clear thinkerIndiana Joe...
I have been fortunate enough to own quite a few of them. I have had Darts, Demons, Road Runners, Chargers, Challengers, and all had bad ass motors in them. A couple of years ago I took a 1970 Charger with the 440 magnum and had it restored. It is not a true restoration because I added stuff that they never came with and upgraded the chasis, rear-end and tranny. Anyway, I built it to look just like the one I wrecked back in 1980. I usually take it to a few shows a year, but other than that she's a Sunday afternoon hot rod.
One of the smaller Mopars that are a lot of fun is the Demons. They came with a 340 engine that made that car fly. They also came with a smaller 318, but the 340 performed much better.
FYI... Everyone has a fascination with the Hemi engines but few of those people realize that the 440 Magnum was a much stouter engine. With a few extra goodies added to mine I get a little over 600 HP.
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I've had nine 1973
June 28, 2008 - 20:20 ET by BruzillaI've had nine 1973 Roadrunners and two 1974. They are the greatest cars ever!
Bah! '69 Charger. 426.
June 28, 2008 - 20:22 ET by NL207Bah! '69 Charger. 426. Built. 9.9 ETs. Q.E.D.
How much in the horsepower
June 28, 2008 - 20:31 ET by Clear thinkerHow much in the horsepower department?
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Dyno at 750 at the wheels.
June 28, 2008 - 22:16 ET by NL207Dyno at 750 at the wheels.
Do you compete on the strip
June 28, 2008 - 22:35 ET by Clear thinkerDo you compete on the strip with it?
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Once over 35 years ago,
June 29, 2008 - 09:50 ET by NL207Once over 35 years ago, when I still owned the car. IIRC, it turned in a 9.985 ET @ 147 mph running on octane boosted fuel. One of the things that I had done to the car was replace the stock pistons with 13:1 domed pistons. The engine needed what amounted to avgas to prevent predetonation. All that HP came at a price.
NL....Pinks
June 29, 2008 - 10:02 ET by BlondeSince discovering Pinks on SpeedTV, I actually know what that means.
I'd love to race my own car, but it looks like a more expensive hobby than I'd care to take on. Still great fun to watch, though.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Not to highlight my
June 29, 2008 - 10:04 ET by NL207Not to highlight my ignorance, but what are "Pinks" and why are they on TV?
NL...Pinks
June 29, 2008 - 10:25 ET by BlondePinks is a best of 5 head-to-head drag race for non-professionals, put up or shut up, winner takes the loser's car.
Pinks All Out is a best of 16, or sometimes 32, head to head elimination. They let everyone run their car, "all out" (cheaters get kicked out), then pick a "class", and run.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
We used to bet
June 29, 2008 - 10:36 ET by NL207We used to bet registrations on head-to-head street races. There was only one guy that would take my paper where I lived then, but he had the one car I thought could beat mine. I wouldn't run him because he had taken a lighweight body-chassis from one manufacturer and wedded it to a monstrous big block from a different manufacturer. I considered that cheating. My car had more raw HP but it also weighed about 800# more. Another consideration was we were street racing. I thought that car had stability problems because of weight + aerodynamics. On the street, that can = death.
Bruzilla... Probably just
June 28, 2008 - 20:29 ET by Clear thinkerBruzilla...
Probably just a matter of taste, but for me Dodge body styles lost alot of machismo after 1971.
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from 1968-1971
June 28, 2008 - 19:33 ET by needle"…almost any Mopar product from 1968-1971."
Are we conservative, or What?!? ;-)
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Well...
June 28, 2008 - 19:40 ET by Indiana JoeThose were the GOOD ones!
;^)
Cool thinker Mopar
June 28, 2008 - 22:24 ET by DelsaTalk about Deeetroit
Cool I agree in that my first car, at age 16, was a bright Red 1965 Plymouth Baracuda, 3 speed Hydromatic and then I had Dodge Cornet 440
My brother had a dual cam Goat aka GTO. Only 200 made with his engine. I forget what it was all about but it was fast and faster.
Yeah, my cousin had a Goat
June 29, 2008 - 21:01 ET by BritcomA black '69 Pontiac GTO Judge with a Ram Air 400 monster under the hood. It often wouldn't run, but when it did, it would peel the paint off the hood. It even had the factory hood tach and hood pins. That was thee coolest car I ever drove.
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"...I am proud to say that I was born in your country.&
Honda/Acura
June 28, 2008 - 18:28 ET by Wildcatter1980They make excellent and reliable cars, but, despite being a Japanese company, much of the work--from designing to building--is now done in the USA. The Accord is a North American model only. The various SUVs and pickup may be North American models only, too.
The TSX is the Japanese/European Accord sold here to fill the void left when the RSX coupe replaced the whole Integra line. Acura dealers fretted over not having a small sedan to replace the old Integra four-door. That's what led to the TSX's introduction.
It is tough to try and force this into a "one country" type of deal.
The Accord is a North American model only.
June 28, 2008 - 18:46 ET by Free StinkerThe Accord is a North American model only.
Indeed. I bought a Chrysler Laser back in 1990. Thought I was buying American. Car had a Mitsubishi Engine & Power Train.
My next three cars were Honda Accords, made in the USA (including Bethlehem Steel)
"Don't forget to vote this fall. Not for McCain, not ever, but there might be a Conservative Rep or Senator that Needs Your Vote" --Free Stinker
There's a substantial
June 28, 2008 - 21:53 ET by jpm100There's a substantial difference between designed and made in the USA and assembled in the USA.
But, people believed what they want, so carry on.
ALFAS !!!!! YES !!!!
June 28, 2008 - 19:11 ET by PaarlI owned several Alfas...a 1974 GTV 1750...a Alfa Sud and a Alfetta....such fun...sssssooooo sexy......excuse my French but real snatch catchers...OOPS!!!
Now I am older..I have a VW TDI Golf//turbo diesel which get 50 mpg and my wife has a Passat TDI ..43 MPG
Both great cars...I drive mine 1,800 miles per week..it has 300,000 miles and nothing goes wrong
Paarl of Rhodesia
I bought a CRX when they
June 28, 2008 - 19:40 ET by scamoramaI bought a CRX when they came out, and used to say that driving it on a twisty road was the most fun you could have with your pants on.
But for sheer driving fun on any road, my '77 BMW 530i is still my favorite memory.
Well, I think we're
June 28, 2008 - 19:19 ET by Indiana JoeWell, I think we're approaching parity on cars. Plus, nailing almost any model to a certain country is getting harder and harder. Honda builds cars in Ohio, but with more American parts than a Pontiac Grand Prix. Final assembly plants for the "Big Three" are scattered into Canada and Mexico. Ford owns Land Rover, Jaguar, and a 30% stake (last I heard) in Mazda.
I think it all depends on what you're looking for. Big, roomy highway-cruiser? The Ford Crown Vic is hard to beat for the money. Mileage and reliability? Lots of foreign options, although Chevy's Aveo seems popular. Towing a big camper or boat? Expedition or Tahoe or something like that. If you want torque and power, American V-8s still pretty much rule the roost. I've owned two Accords, and they're tough to beat for a family sedan. But they've gotten pricey.
But American cars have come a long way from the pits of the 80s and 90s, IMO.
I had a 1970 Mustang......
June 28, 2008 - 19:45 ET by BEGRUNTGrande', which was a fancy way of sayng it was a GT. It had a 351 Cleveland motor, with a Holly 4 barrel double pumper. It was like a rocket car. I had it up till two years ago. I had to sell it after a "FRIEND" of mine took it out after I had the engine re-built, and re-bored to a 354 cu in......he blew a piston. To say the least I went ballistic, I spent $6,000. on the engine, now it was garbage. It sat in my garage, and I fully intended to re-build it again, but I had a heart attack, and other health problems, and was not physically able. It broke my heart to sell it for $2,500. That car was special ordered from the factory by my uncle, it was one of 250 made that year.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
BEGRUNT... Ouch! I'm not
June 28, 2008 - 19:50 ET by Clear thinkerBEGRUNT...
Ouch! I'm not sure if women will ever understand, but from one guy to another, I deeply feel your loss.
Hope the heart is ticking better now!
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Thanks Clear.......
June 28, 2008 - 20:00 ET by BEGRUNTI'm thinking about buying one of the new Mustangs.....but I'm not sure. I like my Dodge Ram, great truck. I'm now "wired", i.e. Pacemaker, so the heart hasn't troubled me much lately, although I get a scare now and then.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
GM has been good to me.
June 28, 2008 - 19:51 ET by rb usmcI have an 87 IROC Z, a 97 Silverado 4x4, a 98 Grand Prix GT, and a 06 Envoy. I rarely have any trouble with any of them. The IROC only has 30,000 miles and is a sunny day car. But the truck has 155,000, runs great, no rattles, starts every time. I put a fuel pump in it and had to have the tranny worked on at 117,000 miles. I would jump in it and take it cross country and back on a moments notice. Thr Grand Prix has 90,000 miles on it and I put an alternator and new rear struts. The Envoy has about 40,000 miles and I have never had a single issue with it. It's a great vehicle. The Wife loves it. It's her main transportation and goes through the snow like the roads are bare.
rb usmc... Here's a
June 28, 2008 - 19:58 ET by Clear thinkerrb usmc...
Here's a helpful tip that will help your high mileage vehicle keep running for another 200,000 miles. You already know your oil changing schedule so you know what to do, here's the magic formula...Every 10,000 miles add one bottle of ZMax to your oil. And at every 20,000 miles put in a quart of Slick-50 when doing an oil change.
The ZMax can be used from the very day you buy your car. Start using the Slick-50 after you have reached 100,000 miles.
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I've been using Royal Purple
June 28, 2008 - 20:21 ET by rb usmcI've been using Royal Purple synthetic lubricants. We use their products where I work with a lot of success. When I started using it in the truck I noticed right away that the engine temp was lower, rpm at 65 mph on straight and flat road was decresed by 200, and I get around 2 to 3 more mpg. I also use Lucas fuel products but it's hard to tell if they have any effect. The IROC seems to like it.
Royal Purple...I don't
June 28, 2008 - 20:41 ET by Clear thinkerRoyal Purple...
I don't know enough about their products to make a comment, but I will take your word for it. Is it an American product?
Lucas products work great and I know people that swear by them, but they are more for enigines that get a lot of abuse, not the family sedan. Unless you race from one light to the next like me.
I am an enviromentalists worst nightmare.
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Made in Texas
June 28, 2008 - 22:24 ET by rb usmcCT, yes the RP is made in Texas, USA. They have a wide selection of lubricants and their cleanliness standards are second to none.
Texas... Well if it's
June 28, 2008 - 22:38 ET by Clear thinkerTexas...
Well if it's made in Texas, it has to be good stuff.
You now have peaked my interest. I think I will go to their website and do a little research.
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IROC Z
June 28, 2008 - 20:25 ET by shawn228RB, my post is at the very top. I mentioned that the IROC was my favorite car. Do you have the 350 or 305. I bought the 305 because the 350 did not have a stick shift.
How in the world do you only have 30,000 miles on it? Do you have it insured as an antique classic?
305
June 28, 2008 - 22:11 ET by rb usmcShawn, it has the 305 tpi with 5 speed manual tranny. It's a shame the manual didn't come with the 350 that year. It took me two years to find the 5 speed with low mileage but it was worth the wait. I love driving it. Not the fastest car in town but it corners beautifully. What a thrill. I need to get it registered as a classic just have not come up with a catchy plate phrase yet. And like all my vehicles it's a Hydrocarbon Powered Eco Vehicle so I'm doing my part to help the plant life grow faster. hehehe
rb
June 28, 2008 - 22:31 ET by shawn228It always p*ssed me off in the old days when a Mustang 5.0 pulled up next to me, I always took them off the line, but they pulled ahead after 2nd gear.
If it was around a track, the IROC woud have won hands down, it gripped the road like it was on rails. The 17/245 meaty tires had a lot to do with it as well. I also though the sound of the engine of 305 sounded better than the 350 version.
I had a burgandy one with t-tops. Major auto repairs and all, I have nothing but fond memories from that car
Looked just like this, but I had manual transmission with 215 hp
Shawn
June 28, 2008 - 22:30 ET by DelsaBelieve it or not my parents had a white t top IROC Z with Red interior. When we took it out it was driven like it should have been. If you know what I mean???
Delsa
June 28, 2008 - 22:32 ET by shawn228Red means stop, and yellow means floor it? :-)
Shawn
June 28, 2008 - 22:54 ET by DelsaMy girl friend wrote a little poem about me and my Baracuda
"Delsa had a little car and it was painted RED
and everywhere that Delsa went, the cops picked up the dead."
No I never killed anyone but I drove as if the car was painted Yellow :-)
Wait till we get those NORTH Korean cars.
June 28, 2008 - 20:09 ET by Britcom---
Sen. John McCain (2003):
"...I am proud to say that I was born in your country.&
Japan makes the best
June 28, 2008 - 20:10 ET by SchnikeysJapan makes the best cars.
It's nice driving my Corolla around without having to sit on the side of the road waiting for the wrecker.
Nissans are a pain in the ass thanks to their timing belt, though.
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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"
Depends on what you like I guess
June 28, 2008 - 20:37 ET by rb usmcI've owned Japanese cars and they were very reliable. But they don't match comfort level of the American cars IMO. Even the Eurotrash cars are fine machines but again I like the ride, seats, feel, and handling of the American brands. It's been a long time since I've sat on the side of the road waiting for a wrecker with my GM vehicles. A 1985 S-10 Blazer with arguably the worst engine GM ever made (2.8 liter V6) with a broken crankshaft. That was 1990 I think.
"PLASTIC" ?????
Carlin line.
June 28, 2008 - 20:54 ET by SchnikeysCarlin line. :-)
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There really is no such
June 28, 2008 - 20:28 ET by BruzillaThere really is no such thing as a best car maker, there are only best cars. My sister bought a Honda as she heard they were the best quality cars on the market, and her car was always in the shop for one reason or another. I worked at a Ford dealership for a year, and I saw SUVs coming in with tranny issues at less than 60,000 miles and I saw the same year an model going for 200,000 without a hitch.
I think the real factor is the driver. People who take care of their cars, change the oil when they should, tune-up when they should, flush the tranny, etc., will have a car last as long as they own in regardless of who made it. People who buy Hondas, Toyotas, Lexus, or any other make and don't take care of it will have problems just like the similar owner of a Ford or Chevy.
For me, the only cars I have driven since 1992 are police-package Ford Crown Victorias. These are rated for 300,000 miles because they come with special coolers for the tranny, oil, and power steering fluid that greatly extend drivetrain life. Plus these cars usually get regular and professional maintenance through the first 70,000 miles or so of their life, and are cheap to buy. I'm on my fourth retired police car, and my current one has a skosh over 160,000 miles on it. The other three I drove until they rolled 300,000 miles and then sold them.
The term "best car" has different meanings to different people.
June 28, 2008 - 21:31 ET by R D HelmSome think of "best car" as meaning the the most reliable cars out there. Sure, ther are some truly reliable ones going, but they may be boring as hell to drive. Many of them are.
Others define it as a well-balanced machine with a rather high hp to weight ratio, a well-tuned suspension that allows one to carve up the twisties with a very high level of precision and without much body-roll, as well as the ability to soak up bumps without losing its composure, even while cornering at some rather high speeds. Oh, pavement-wrinkling horsepower is okay, to be sure, but gobs of low-end torque are even better.
Sorry, but there is only one country on Earth that has consistently filled the bill here over the decades, and that is the Gerry's.
The Japanese still cannot touch them, and the Americans cannot even see them.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
RD... My two must-haves
June 28, 2008 - 21:31 ET by Clear thinkerRD...
My two must-haves in a car are Horsepower and looks. And it helps if I can piss off environmentalists at the same time.
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Toylet
June 28, 2008 - 21:25 ET by dmntd1I bought a Chevy Cavalier new in 1998. Found out later, that little white car was more TOYota than chevroLET.... Hence, it's name.... TOYLET.... and yes, I still have it, and yes it's now a piece of crap :-P
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Trucks
June 28, 2008 - 21:41 ET by amberNow, if you would have asked who makes the best trucks it would be the US hands down. Japan can try, but they just don't get it. We want size and torque. If I could, I would have a crew extended cab (crew cab with an extended cab) one ton diesel pick up.
"Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else." --despair.com
amber, I agree, American pickups rule. Until Mercedes...
June 28, 2008 - 21:48 ET by R D Helm...decides to build then en masse, that is.
LOL-Then we are toast.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
RD
June 28, 2008 - 22:43 ET by shawn228Germans and Mercedes make great cars, but they sure are expensive to fix. I had a 84 VW Jetta and wow, were the parts and labor expensive on that thing.
shawn, I agree.
June 28, 2008 - 23:04 ET by R D HelmI had an '85 GTI and a tricked out '89 Jetta, both of which I bought new. My only real complaints here were the CV joints, which failed regularly in both cars. Thank God for the warranty!
Otherwise, they were a total blast to drive.
I bought a new loaded Maxima SE in '98, which was cheek-pulling quick, but it lacked the handling of my German cars, as a solid rear axle can only be tamed so far.
The best "drivers" car I ever owned was my beloved '87 Saab 900s coupe. Drove that one into the ground. Twice.
The Panzer was a sweet car to be sure, but 27 years and 248,000 miles finally took its toll. LOL.
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Trucks!!!
June 29, 2008 - 01:36 ET by UnsaneMy Dodge Ram is my baby. 165,000 miles and still going strong. I will drive it until the wheels fall off.
Indeed, NO ONE does trucks like the United States.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Unemployed
June 28, 2008 - 21:41 ET by ScrapironEverytime I hear someone driving a foreign say how bad the economy is or that they lost their job I simply answer, Duh.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Americans (non Union) make Toyota's, Nissans...in USA
June 28, 2008 - 21:47 ET by JayTeeNow if the Question is about who Engineers the Best Cars.....I find the Germans are very Good, but the AMericans are the most Imaginative.
Copy cats abound, but Americans innovate.
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
For engineering, my vote
June 28, 2008 - 22:46 ET by Clear thinkerFor engineering, my vote goes to the Japanese. Not so much on the newer vehicles with all the computer stuff, but the ones they made in the 80's were very easy to work on. It's almost as if their engineers had to work on their own cars and kept that in mind when they designed them. I used to laugh at all the vacuum lines that subaru used in their 80's model cars. It was like spaghetti.
I have always said "all auto engineers should work in a repair shop for at least one year before they start designing them". I guarantee they would be a lot simpler to fix on your own.
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I've had three Hondas and
June 28, 2008 - 22:10 ET by CJK51I've had three Hondas and my favorite is my 2008 Accord. Looking at sticker, it was made in the US, so is my Honda Japanese or American?
Totally unrelated, but since we're talking cars...I think Chrysler would boost sales by re-introducing for a few years, new versions of the AMC line. I think America is ready for a new Pacer or Gremlin! America needs an Eagle station wagon with monster truck tires and wood trim. And, in homage to my father, I want to see a new Hornet, complete with non-functioning heater! :-)
CJK
June 28, 2008 - 22:39 ET by rb usmcThe Javelin was a mean machine. Gremlin not so much, and the Pacer was 52 years ahead of it's time. I wonder how many Dorks would buy one if it was billed as the cure to Global Warming.
RB USMC, Chrysler dealers
June 28, 2008 - 22:47 ET by CJK51RB USMC, Chrysler dealers wouldn't be able to keep them in stock with the number of chumps coming in to heal our doomed planet!
Back in the day, my father was looking at cars with good mileage because he had a long commute. The heatless Hornet prompted him to look for a new car, and someone suggested the Pacer. His assessment of the Pacer: "It handles nicely, but I feel like I'm driving my living room." That always cracked me up.
rb... Your right, the
June 28, 2008 - 22:47 ET by Clear thinkerrb...
Your right, the Javelin was a mean little sucker, but the handling on them was a nightmare.
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I said Japan but we run the table
June 28, 2008 - 22:50 ET by DelsaHusbands first truck was a 87 Ford F150 4x4
Then he had a 97 Chevy 2500
and now he as an 07 3500 HD Chevy (my 19 year old son drives it)
So he'd vote American for the truck
I said Japan. I have LS400 runs like a top
My oldest son just purchased an Audi A4 2.0 T
LS400
June 28, 2008 - 22:54 ET by shawn228I would love to have that car. Way out of my price range so, all I could afford was the IS250. Which is the cheapest model they had.
Does yours do the parallel parking for you?
No way
June 28, 2008 - 23:09 ET by DelsaI'd love that one.
I have an older one. A 97 LS400
Beautiful. Rides like a dream, turns on a dime, and goes when i say so.
I'll get another one when this one craps out.
NBers
June 28, 2008 - 23:49 ET by Noel SheppardNBers,
Who makes the best cars? Based on what criteria? Cheapest at purchase? Cheapest to maintain? Most fun to drive? Fastest?
In my life, I've owned a Mercury, a Porsche, a BMW, a Toyota, an Acura, a Chevy, and a Nissan. They've all had their pluses and minuses.
In the end, the cheapest to purchase and maintain was the Mercury Capri. In seven years, the only service on that car was routine maintenance. No serious repairs. But the car was a bore.
The three Japanese cars all had more non-routine maintenance items, including the Acura. But, we've had that Acura since 1997, and it's still a great car after 100,000 miles.
By far, my favorite car was the 911SC. Nothing was more fun to drive, especially with the top down. But it cost a fortune to maintain, and to insure. Same for the BMW. Not cheap.
My current car, a convertible 94 Z28, has had its share of non-routine repair work. But, it's at 150k miles, and still drives tight with a lot of muscle. Body and interior have held up surprisingly well. Frankly, I've had it seven years, and it's still a thrill to drive.
What's the best? Based on what? ns
Um, Noel, did you happen to read my post above????
June 29, 2008 - 00:07 ET by R D HelmLOL-Now, I realize it may not have as well-constructed, nor as eloquently worded as your own (okay, I am slipping in my middle-age years, okay?) but dayem.
:-^)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Big reasons I love my truck
June 29, 2008 - 01:43 ET by UnsaneNoel, I am stunned no mention was made of trucks here until some other posters brought them up.
My truck is wonderful. It is extremely practical; I can buy virtually anything and not worry about how to get it home. Mine's a regular cab V6 so it doesn't suck down the gas the way a V8 would. That, and the worst thing that has happened to it was a water-pump replacement. Beyond that, I have only paid for routine maintenance on it.
I hated the three other compact cars I had because I couldn't fit in them. My last car was a Honda Prelude that I had to sit in with the seat all the way back, and even then my knees were STILL on the steering wheel! In my Ram, I sit in it very comfortably.
I bought that Ram with 3 miles on the odometer. 165,000 miles later it is still going on strong. I am quite a ways from buying another truck to take its place.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
The English and the Italians
June 29, 2008 - 00:19 ET by CrashThe English and the Italians make the most coveted automobiles.
As for my favorite passenger car, BMW. My brother-in-law just came to the same conclusion made by my wife & I over a decade ago, and he dumped his new Mercedes for his second BMW.
Crash, Lol-The English and Italians?????
June 29, 2008 - 00:27 ET by R D HelmFirst of all, English electrical systems are crap. Still are to this day.
As for the Italians, LMAO-best buy Japanese as a spare. :-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
Public Education?
June 29, 2008 - 08:28 ET by CrashRolls Royce, Bentley, Ferrari, and Lamborghini.
Notice: I didn't say they were the "best", I wrote, "The English and the Italians make the most coveted automobiles."
Crash, LOL- I was just yanking your chain. :-)
June 29, 2008 - 19:44 ET by R D HelmThe truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
I had an italian car once
June 29, 2008 - 20:25 ET by BritcomIt was my first car (after my first truck of course) It was a used 74 Fiat 128, 2 door sedan, chalk green, it was a tiny car and it sounded like a swarm of bees going down the road when you got it up to speed. Back seat was nearly useless.
It had the most peculiar chronic problem. The clutch was disengaged by a cable (similar to a bicycle brake cable) attached to the clutch pedal. The cables had the nasty propensity to stretch so that eventually you couldn't disengage the transmission even with the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. Very annoying and quite dangerous.
One thing that was interesting about it was that every single wire in the harness was different color and stripe pattern, and the manual told exactly what each color wire was attached to. Very easy to work on, all cars should be like that.
I lost control of it one day on a curved road in freezing rain and rolled it over in a corn field. Hood flew open, and the battery flew out cables and all. Car was totaled. Wasn't hurt, but had to walk home. Swore I'd never own another front-wheel drive car again though, and haven't.
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Sen. John McCain (2003):
"...I am proud to say that I was born in your country.&
Japan/America?
June 29, 2008 - 00:18 ET by Cool ArrowI rolled my 96 Toyota Tacoma after 296k miles.
My wife and I were both uninjured. A cowboy drove up while the cops looked on and said "Reckon it'd start if I latched a chain to it and got it up on its wheels again"? I drove it home.
Up until that point, the cab had remained airtight and your ears would pop a little when you closed the door.
I remember when people bragged about 100k on the odometer.
The Toyota mfg plant in California definitely has something going.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Cool
June 29, 2008 - 17:40 ET by ricklailI just bought a new Tacoma Super Cab. I kept my 88 Ford Ranger which after 178,000 was running fine. I am letting my son drive it now due to this 2007 Ford Focus having bite the dust.
“A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position.” –John E. Ashbrook, The New Neutralism II, P. 7
Nice run. Where do you race
June 29, 2008 - 01:19 ET by Gary P JacksonNL207
Nice run. Where do you race at? What track?
Currently driving a 2003
June 29, 2008 - 02:03 ET by lnthompCurrently driving a 2003 Honda Civic, purchased new 5 years and 1 month ago, has 110,000 miles on it, gets typically 33mpg with A/C on, 36mpg without A/C around Portland mixed driving, saw 40mpg on long road trips. No repairs or unscheduled maintenance, except had to replace the windshield last year, and it needs new pads on the brake and clutch pedals. Could do with smoothing out some dings here and there and scratches in the paint. Great car.
Lee T.
"Democrats, there is one reason Obama is your party's nominee, and it's not because he's black -- it's because he's not Hilary Clinton." -- Rush Limbaugh, 6/2/08
I own an example from each
June 29, 2008 - 06:19 ET by Lancasters Saved UsI own an example from each major player. NA, Japan, Germany. My first car was a 71' 240-Z. Very fun, very reliable, but made out of a metal that rusted from the salt in your perspiration. Anyway, I voted for German cars. WHile not as reliable, I do not get tired of driving them (M3, VW Corrado). I love the feel and design. The Japanese one (Acura MDX built in Ontario) is a dead reliable appliance I will never form a bond with. BTW, my American car is a 66 Corvair that I have owned since 1982....Amazingly innovative design quashed by the Godfather of Liberal meddling.
I voted U.S.
June 29, 2008 - 07:19 ET by BlondeJust because of the great variety of fabulous cars that have been designed and manufactured here over the years. I mean, do any of you watch Barrett Jackson? The parade of beautiful American vehicles is endless, and I know I'd love to own each and every one I see.
As for cars I've owned, the first was an Opel GT (poor girl's corvette), que'lle disaster...a bastard of a car with no mother or father, part german, part french, but it was cute! For a while we were on a Mazda kick, had a 626LX & a 929LX, both great cars that never stranded me.
A Jeep Grand Wagoneer (super tow vehicle) that was a PITA and would drop dead frequently, but I still miss it.
A cherry 450SL that I still miss, R.D. is right about the kraut cars, but the parts for Mercedes cost almost as much as airplane parts.
I love my 50th Anniversary edition t-bird, it is sweet and hasn't given me an ounce of trouble. It's perfect for me as my height is all in my legs, but if one's height is in the torso, duck upon entering! I'm thinking of buying a gas-sipping commuter (like I should complain, by round trip is only 14 miles) but I think I'm going to park the bird and drive it on special occasions, I want to keep it forever.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Blonde,
June 29, 2008 - 19:49 ET by R D HelmR.D. is right about the kraut cars, but the parts for Mercedes cost almost as much as airplane parts.
Yep, and thank God RD doesn't have to pop fer them 'spensive parts anymore.
I love my new little Ford, as I can now visit my local QT for two straight weeks at a time, and all I have to buy is coffee. :-)
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
I voted Germany. I'm a
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