Firing him is what Barry would do. Fining him is what Congress would do. Suspending him is what MLB would do. Nothing is what the free market would do.
'Other' is another viable choice- that's what Sarah Palin did.
Let's face it, Letterman's audience hates Bush/Palin/conservatives/Republicans, and that is why Letterman panders to them. He is in a major ratings battle with Conan now... and willing to pull out all the stops. Probably 90% of the people that visit this site do not watch him, I have NEVER been able to watch his show, the word SMARMY had to have been created just for this guy. He came out to AMR Eagle at JFK to be a "flight attendant" for one of his skits on his show, and I have flown a LOT of celebreties, and this guy was a walking turd. There will always be a bias, there will always be more dim bulbs to fill his audience than thinkers that find something constructive to do with their time. The mindless masses will need lowbrow humor and entertainment, so there will always be a place for an "entertainer" of his ilk. He is essentially an electronic nanny to those that are challenged by the most simple of lifes decisions, the same 54% that elected Obama Bin Lyin.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
The free market is dead (witness: Olbermann). That's what has happened to our country - we conservatives have stood back to let the people and capitalistic principles decide, and the left has changed the rules of the game while we waited. The free market is populated by a huge herd of sheeple now - they do as they are told,so long as they get their plasma TVs and their I-Pods. The masses have turned into a bunch of zombies who are incapable of making decisions for themselves.
That's how Obeyme got elected. That's how our "free media" got hijacked, that's how our universities got infiltrated. We have to stop it NOW!
Luckily, we are smarter than the lefties. We can play catch-up quick, but we have got to start playing by the new rules before we can (hopefully) get back to the old ones. We need to scream louder than the left has ever been able to at injustices. We need tio make our voices heard, and we need to DEMAND that jackasses like Letterman take the same punishment that a conservative would for making a sick joke about a liberal's kid.
We can't afford to "do the right thing" now. The stakes are too high, and we are on a very slippery slope.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Totally and absolutely 1000% agree with you. I've been saying the same thing for a long long time but has fallen on deaf ears. Conservatives have always taken the high moral ground and the country has suffered dearly for it. The silent majority has remained silent for too long. Awaken consevatives and fight this..the enemy is on the doorstep and going back to sleep is not an option.
I just think forcing an apology is meaningless...or firing him just so the network can hire a newer David Letterman...it just means you out bullied the bully, and your no different from the gay activists who went after the prop 8 supporters.
How to fight? Expose dave letterman for he is...a bitter old man who drinks the democrat kool aid. Spread the word. Enough disgusted people will turn him off and go somewhere else.
I for one am grateful of David Letterman, because its one more opportunity to expose how swarmy and vile the left has become, and its another opportunity that made Sarah Palin shine. I don't want to get rid of David Letterman, I want him to be the Poster child, along with bitter lady Pelosi, corrupt Reid and the lot.
I respect your opinion, and I agree with your in theory, but this is not about theory. These koolaid drinkers don't GET the nuances of what is happening. Most of them were barely aware of the brouhaha at all, until Letterman's *cough* apology *cough*. They guffawed at his "joke", and then were puzzled by the "apology", because they really have no idea.
We are not dealing with intelligent thoughtful people here. The critical thinking skills have been "taught" right out of them by out government run public schools for the last 30-some years. remember, these are the the same people who can tell you who won some Idol show last season, but have no frigging clue who Nancy Pelosi is. Or their own Senators.
Letterman is a conduit of left thinking to these zombies, which is fine (although irritating). He crossed the line, so he SHOULD be punished. He had the opportunity to punish himself with a real apology, and shunned it. So now he should be held accountable for his comments.
But more importantly - the left has created new rules. The rules are unsportsmanlike and distasteful, but by refusing to adapt to the new rules, they are pushing us off the field. We not only are losing our ability to win, but even to play. At some point, we will all be standing around saying "we may have lost, but we lost gracefully". That's where the analogy ends - because this is NOT a game. This is our childrens lives and the future of our very country. If we don't start playing by the new rules, we will lose big.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Sheeple - great stuff - ipods and plasma TV's - you are not kidding about that with regards to the lemmings out there.
Letterman - haven't watched him in years and don't care what he says, but you are right - time to play by the lefty rules and defeat them at their own game.
But your 'Beeotch Slap' idea put a great visual in my head. Imagine - Governor Palin agrees to do the show. When she is introduced she comes striding out confidently and with a purpose. Dave arises to greet her and shake her hand. She hauls off and slugs the crap out of the 'Girly Boy', taking him out with one punch. She twirls around and walks off stage.
Maybe conservative shows, for a few months, should have long discussions on the question: "When and Why Did Dave Letterman Become the Leader of the Democrat Party?"
Let someone on national TV talk about one of them being raped by a baseball player one night, then call her a whore the next, and lets see how you like it!
Governor Palin has been very classy in this deal. In fact, she was on both the Today Show as well as CNN to discuss one of the most game changing energy projects in our lifetimes. The Trans-Canada pipeline.
Of course Lauer wouldn't let her talk about it, but to Blitzer's credit (man it pains me to give CNN credit) he discussed real world issues with the Governor.
How many of you think Letterman would not already be in a cell at Guantanamo Bay right now if he had made the exact same"jokes" about (to quote Sarah) "The Candidate who must be obeyed('s)" two kids?
The left would be calling for the death penalty!
Letterman should be fired.
Folks, here is the bottom line. We are at WAR.
We always talk about the "9/10 mentality" We talk about how on September the 10th, 2001 we failed to see that radical Islam was truly at war with us.
Oh, we realized there were "incidents". Battles, if you will. But we just kinda accepted them, and moved on. Then came September 11th. That beautiful Tuesday moring was destroyed by the most vicious attack ever on American soil. We realized we were at war.
As for the culture war, we need to stop having a 6/7 mentality. By that I mean June 7, 2009.
We have been fighting many battles in this war, for a long time, but we have never REALLY treated it as a war. The left wing HAS!
Look at what they have done to Carrie Prejean, for simply believing the same way most Americans, including the President do, about gay marriage.
And what about the Playboy blog where the liberal writer talked about "hate ****ing" beautiful conservative women like Megyn Kelly and Michelle Bachmann. THAT should have set the world on fire in lib land, but nothing much was done.
Then came Monday night, June 8, 2008.
That was the night David Letterman really attacked all women, and decent human beings.
Even better, Letterman followed it up the next night. And the next (with his BS "apology") Even Al Quaeda wasn't able to strike America again after 9/11!
This needs to be the line in the sand. The final straw.
If we allow the left to continually get away with this stuff, we will lose America forever.
This isn't about Sarah anymore. This is about everything that is good, and right, and decent in America vs all that is evil, nasty, and vile in America.
The left represents everything that is evil, nasty and vile. And right now they are winning. They are winning because we aren't even fighting!
Sarah Palin is our symbol. She is our rock. If she is not worth fighting to the death for, then what is?
But remember, we aren't JUST fighting for Sarah, we are fighting for everything we hold near and dear. We are fighting for America!
Obama and his thugs, including slime like Letterman are destroying America at warp speed. We have no choice but to fight back with all we have. We must fight with everything we have. We must never, ever let up for one second. Never, ever!
We either destroy them, or they will destroy us. It's just that simple.
Stop having a 6/7 mentality!
With that in mind, the folks over at the Fire David Letterman website have organized a protest for Monday that will take place at the Ed Sullivan theater during the live taping of David's show. If you live near NYC, go support them!
I'm with you Gary P., we are at War. We have to ATTACK the media and force them back to fair, balanced, and honest reporting, commentary and programing. The only way to force them back to what is right and decent is to make them pay a personal price for trying to destroy what the USA used to stand for. We must make the individuals pay and we must make the corporations pay, that includes the major nets and their sponsors, to the point the talking heads are fired and the layoffs are so heavy in the corporate media that to get viewers back, thus advertisers, they are forced to deliver a decent product.
He who controls the information and the message controls the debate, he who controls the debate, wins.
kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
To say that means that all the women in your family are sluts, should be raped at a young age, and are downright deserving of sexist comments. So in your reality, this is true. If the comments were just about her politics, I would wholeheartedly agree.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
What was that they said about Imus at first when his troubles started, and after he really apologized numerous times...it was said he needed a time out....yeah, that lasted how long?
What hypocrites the leftists are, what double-standards they always have.
Nothing changes with the phonies...never will either...
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Tony, this is a ridiculous statement. I already don't EVER watch Letterman and never would. He's a turd. I also never watched Imus, because I found him stupid. But even after profuse, legitimate apologies, Imus was dumped in response to the ever-whining libtards' wailing. They wouldn't shut up until he was gone.
This is the whole point. Conservatives sit back and take this crap, not pursuing any serious solution to the issue. Liberals scream and holler, proving over and over the theory of the squeaky wheel. Letterman's "apology" was no apology at all; it was another opportunity to repeat the slam at Palin, get another laugh, and minimize the seriousness of his saying he's "sorry." I, for one, am sick of the hypocrisy. The liberals will shout our objections down with the aid of the brown-shirted media, and eventually we'll have to shut up about it. Nothing will be done because we'll be made to look the fools, and our own members will soon be trying to hush us up.
Firing or fining him is what the freedom-hating, fascist left would want to see happen if Letterman were a conservative and had said something similar about a democrat's daughter.
Political correctness in ANY form has no place in a truly free country.
-Dave
Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain
I'm sorry to disagree my friend, but this is not even remotely political correctness. PC is when you can't call a black person black. When you make comments about a minor being raped, you deserve to have the hammer brought down on you hard. I would agree with the same sentiment if this were done to Chelsea Clinton or any of the Obama children. I'm sure the smarmy libtards now defending Letterman would be the first to cry foul if the situation were reversed. Speaking of Baby boy, where is he in all of this? I thought he said during the campaign that family should be off limits. I guess since the campaign is over the Dear Leader is reneging on his sentiments. Can I say "reneging" or is that not PC? lol
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Maybe in your mind it's that simply stated but in reality it's not poilitical at all. It has become political hence the term political correctness. So why not call white people European American? All white people do come from some region in Europe.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
When a person coins a bombastic phrase like " I want him to fail" its politically incorrect in his fans eyes to say its irresponsible. Its logically in bounds as it affects a leaderless country, a floundering country. I want neither, and Gingrich wants neither. But to Limbaugh fans, calling his coined bombastic phrase, irresponsible, is politically incorrect. You're a rabel-rouser, you're unclean in dittoland. It does depend on your politics what is PC.
99% of the angst or hatred toward me on this site is because I say Rush is wrong. People call me a liberal, troll etc. I ask them to please quote my most liberal post and nothing comes forth, because I don't make liberal posts. There's nothing remotely liberal about me so finding a liberal post isn't going to happen. But I am politically incorrect. I don't suckle on every syllable uttered by Limbaugh and his fans see a need to destroy such dissension. Thats not leftest or liberal. Thats politically incorrect. The people needing to stifle disagreement are closer to Stalin than Reagan.
No - 99% of the hatred for you is because you are a whiny jerk who simply wants to argue with everyone about everything.
Common sense would tell you that Rush has got to be right about at least half of what he says. He cites his sources and can back up his facts. He then applies his own interpretation to the things that he has evidence of. Again, common sense would say that he is probably right more often than not, because he connects the dots. He doesn't just spout out his "feelings", he has ample evidence to support his ideas. Now you - a little peon on a message board, want to argue with every word that Rush says. You don't document what you say, you don't connect the dots - you just chant the "Rush is wrong" or "Rush is an idiot" mantra.That holds no weight among thinkers, and this site is rather full of thinkers.
I bet a buck if we did a survey of this audience, every single person who likes and listens to Rush would say that they DISAGREE with him on one or more topics. I would say that myself. But when I disagree with him, I can tell you why, and it's not just because "he is a jerk".
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
When the so-called "joke" is made at the expense of an innocent child who has nothing to do with the dirty world of politics and show biz, that's when.
Yet notice the phony condescending tone these bomb throwers use, trying to pass themselves off as superior to everybody else here. It's really almost humorous.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Nice how they hit and run eh Chris...heck I just watched a tear-jerker that I've seen years ago, but love the music and even cried at the end and the troll still hasn't anwered.
Nothing new with these troll-byes.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
First of all, that comment was made by a columnist in one of your beloved liberal media outlets, the Times. If you actually did some research you may not openly look uneducated. Secondly, Rush actually disparaged the columnist for writing to make a point of a double standard that McCain didn't get in the same right. Again, a stupid libtard losing another argument over being lazy. PC is calling a stupid jerkoff like yourself a stupid jerkoff. PC would be me having to say that you are mentally challenged instead, which is accurate by all accounts. Condoning rape of a 14 year old girl is not PC, it's sick. So defending Letterman shows how morally "rediculouse" and inept you truly are.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Come on, you don't fire someone 'cause of speech. It's supposed to be free you know, even when in bad taste. Giving this moron all this attention is a waste of time. Ignore him. Think "Alfred E Newman", you'll feel better.
I usually try to do that FB...jus sick of them today...they've been coming out of the woodwork all over the place for a week or more...some days I ignore...some days I don't...and this is one of them.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Aren't we the party who defends personal rights, no matter how repugnant someone chooses to be with those rights? Letterman is a douche and has been since he started, but can we seriously consider calling for him to be fired for excersizing free speech? Was what he said wrong? Hell yes. Is there any place for speech like that in civilized society? No. Should Letterman be fired? If there were any real justice in this world, yes. Will he be? No. Should we demand his firing? No. Let him keep his job and continue to be a demeaning ass on the left. It allows us just one more opportunity to contrast our beliefs and practices from the Left.
I'm a little tired of turning the other cheek all the time to show liberals that I am above the fray and better than that and all the rest. We lived through 8 years of George W. Bush NOT responding to an almost hourly barrage of invective meaning that his supporters (me for one) had to carry the water for him in numerous debates and on pages like this one. I'm tired of it folks! I am not going to do this anymore for anyone. I believe we have been way too nice for way too long. Letterman! If I were the father of Sarah Palin's children I would call you out as the coward that you are. I am calling you out as a person with daughters and granddaughters, a mother, a sister, a wife and many other women in his life who truly believes you are a cowardly misogynist. You hear that Dave? Fire the damn creep now CBS if you respect women.
I've already done my part. I pre-boycotted this creepy old man years ago. Anyone who says this old coot is funny is just pretending to get his "humor". He never was very funny - just really strange and in the last few years, alarmingly so - and nasty. If I was sitting next to Letterman while he was performing his schtick on a bar stool, I'd move all the way down to the other end of the bar - if not saying, "Tab, please!"..
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Gov. Palin has said her peace, and should not say any more. I think she won this fight, and commenting further would look like piling on. Letterman should keep his job; he would become a leftist martyr like Bill Maher if he were fired.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Is the Palin - Letterman 'story' really dominating the Newsbusters home page?
This 'controversy' might be the single, stupidest non-story ever created.
The joke was harmless.
Palin wears trashy calf high leather boots so letterman said she looked like a slutty stewardess. Her daughter got pregnant so letterman made fun of her penchant for getting pregnant.
Well, gosh. We didn't realize you had more important topics to comment on. I'll tell you what, why don't you go comment on those deadly serious topics somewhere else and we'll stay here and waste our time. We'll call you when we're through...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
These little trollsters are busy little gnats today aren't they.
Saturday is a good day to stomp them out...I'm sick and tired of them this week. ..they must know something we don't about Obama losing his throne with some in their own party...of all venues.
Must be little worry warts.
The trolls are never happy people, even after O won, they are everywhere whining, they can't help themselves.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
The kid has 'penchant' for getting pregnant? She's had multiple pregnancies and can't stop herself? Not a good idea to use fancy-pants words you don't know the meaning of.
PS: Stories are not "created" here at NB; you're thinking of MSNBC. And if you do have an Rx for crazy pills, you should be taking them regularly if you think this whole thing is "harmless."
Okay, the joke is harmless huh? Well I guess your mom wasted a prime opportunity to prostitute herself while trying to conceive you. How's that for joke?
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." Some Guy
Letterman is an asshole, not even he would deny it. It's like Roy being nailed by a Tiger and wondering ... why?
Now that I've said that ... it's open season on Obama's Family and his ugly wife who has a mouth that looks like it belongs on a vicious piranha!
I can't believe I am directing you to check out a forum that "backward Shawn" has, but I am. LOL. And if you see Bigtimer around, would you tell her I am directing her there as well? Go to the forum section & play the song that I have on there, if you will ... from me. You both have been working your behinds off on this site & have had some frustrating days lately. I'm on a writing deadline and have to get off here -- if I'm ever going to finish my articles on time ... and I can't remember which forum it is (I know, what a ditz)! ^_^
But play the song -- and breathe... and smile. :) And for gosh sakes, would ya ask "Backward Shawn" if he can a least spell his name forward now -- pleeeeeze?^_^ That is so distracting. ;)
Endorsing or making jokes about the statutory rape of a 14 year old girl is similar. Don't tell me he had Bristol confused with Willow. The gag was written in advance.
If you believe otherwise, your parents failed to give you even the most basic standards of decency and humanity.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
And it's comments like this that make me understand why the Republican party has gone a stray. When did we quit defending ourselves? This is NOT a PC issue people! If it were, I'd would understand people saying this is an overraction. If it were about her politics or someone calling her "sweetie," then I'd say get over it. This pervert went after her family and her character for nothing. He wants to argue politics, fine. The rest of that garbage is not for public airwaves.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
This is not a question of should we protest, boycott advertisers, etc., but what we THINK is appropriate for his disgusting comments. He has a right to say whatever he wants, he does not have a right to have it broadcasted or be paid for it.
This is just like the whole Natalie Maines thing. The stupid whore thought that people had no right to call for a boycott of her music but she felt she had every right to go out and scream about how embarrassed of GWB she was.
Libs are the ultimate bullies. They can do anything they want, say anything they want, behave anyway they want and you're not supposed to be upset. But when they scream, yell and carry on, we're supposed to just sit here and take it. In other words, it's a typical lib who doesn't think there are any consequences or there should be no consequences for their actions.
Sorry. WRONG.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
the conservatives who have spoken out against DL's rape joke.
Second, those who want to play intellectual advocates, of some sort, by ignoring the facts of DL's rape joke do not realize that many liberals play into their 'rationale' are able to stifle the debate within our own group.
Many liberals on this site would love to team up with those few and stifle any real outrage against the left and that is what they are counting on happening.
Instead of delivering his monologue right away as usual, Letterman should be required to wear one of those fake arrows on his head ( a la Steve Martin) and begin the show by writing "I am a dumb and angry guy" on a "blackboard" 10 times every night for the next 52 weeks.
And Letterman will have the last word even if Palin does what you suggest, plus he'll get a ratings boost to boot. Whatever apology you believe will be forthcoming will be erased the next night with a new Palin top 10 list.
The last thing Palin should do is go on his show and justify his existence even more than she already has.
Conservatives have been doing this for quite some time and looking very weak in the process. I say let him squirm a bit. Palin is one of the commissioners of the big league, so no need to be just a player. Remember, Palin is the ratings guru just by being somewhere. Letterman is a burnt out old man who has been making snide, desperate remarks about children to get ratings.
Your theory though well intentioned is not very sound.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
...sexual jokes of any kind against a candidate's children, scurrilous and libelous stories about the 'true' parentage of Trig Palin, being called 'slutty' in any way, lewd and obscene 'photoshopped' pictures or other similar and gratuitous character assassination.
I refuse to accept your premise that such despicable treatment 'goes with the territory'...especially so far as it involves persons like Letterman who are nominally expected to observe some standards of common decency.
This is similar to the treatment of Carrie Prejean.
History will remember Carrie as an honest and courageous young woman who knew she was almost certainly throwing away the pageant.
That human jackal, Perez Hilton, who posed that loaded question, however, will be remembered if at all as nothing more than a scumbag.
Letterman may win the battle, at least with his amoral fans, but Palin will win the war. Her poll numbers are probably skyrocketing.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
Family is sacred to the conservatives in this country. When you add Letterman's comments to the anti-life, pro-abortion, screed of the left, you realize that family, and therefore life, is not sacred to the far left. There are exceptions to every rule, but it appears rather obvious...
WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,
It's not about free speech. He has no right to a network TV show--if he does, I want one of my own. Hey CBS, be smart: cancel Lecherman and bring back The Unit.
I'm all for letting the market decide this one. In reality, the shareholders and the advertisers should choose which side of the line in the sand to stand on...and let us consumers decide with our discretionary income whether or not they chose to stand on the right side.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Well, they do now. But at some point, they're going to need more revenue streams to continually generate their propaganda. If Obama's policies continue to erode economic growth, the money won't always be there to support their existence. Meanwhile, the organic outrage (based on practical experience) will build and counterbalance the media spin. Money talks...and, if misused, Teflon can be temporary.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
One of the great challenges when it comes to solving problems through the market is that you have to overcome individual apathy at the grass roots level. Ultimately, the media is going to have a much larger platform with which to present its spin on the matter...and individuals who are naturally checked out are often going to accept the mass media spin if they are not engaged at the local level. If you look at the Tea Party movement, for example, the revolt began at the local level where people whose needs were largely ignored on the national level and in the last several elections, were starting to experience the tangible consequences of the policies put forward by the federal and state governments with the cheerleading of mass media to take care of the disengaged. People who had been doing the right things, living within their means, paying their mortgages and saving for their retirements were put in the position of being punished for their personal sacrifices by being forced through taxes and bailouts to subsidize the irresponsible. Eventually these people had suffered enough abuse to push back...to gather with their neighbors to express their frustration. The mass media largely portrayed the Tea Parties as "phony", "Fox News-driven" organized events...but they weren't. They were grass roots pushes that picked up widespread attention for their organic growth (like the revolt that stopped the amnesty bill). The problem is that like the Tea Parties and the Amnesty Revolt, the outrage over the Letterman/Palin incident is in danger of flaming out...it seems like in both the Tea Party and Amnesty cases, the grass roots worked so hard to express their outrage to achieve one small objective (expressing resistance of new taxes and bailouts/defeating the Amnesty Bill) that the organizers have made the events seem like isolated affairs...everyone expressed their discontent and went home thinking "job done". When you have an enemy like individual ignorance/indifference fueled by mass media drops, you have to be relentless, constant. In other words, you, at the local level, keep at your friends and acquaintances and highlight the occasions that prove this wasn't an isolated incident. Individuals throughout the country feel the same way about it as you do, if they do the same, people at the local level will start to pay attention. If you keep at it and don't give up, you'll start to convince more and more people...at that point it becomes a city, then state, then national movement picking up steam and garnering attention from like-minded organizations with money to underwrite your efforts. Then the sponsors start to pay attention and make their calculations based on the momentum. It's hard work, and will be met with much resistance...but the more resistance, the higher the sensitivity and vulnerability on the other side. The leaks start materializing and the defenses become weaker. At that point, you have the opportunity to bring the whole thing down. If you treat this Letterman/Palin incident as the whole war as opposed to the first of many battles, you'll have already lost...there isn't enough support for your position to make it happen now, and there are plenty in the mass media who will come to his defense on a grand scale to more than neutralize your outrage with the indifferent. If you treat it as the first of possibly many battles in bringing Letterman to his knees, you might have a decent shot.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
One thing to say for Sharpton...he never gives up. He's a caricature, but more often than not he gets what he wants done. We don't have many relentless conservative activists these days, who, like Sharpton, don't let perception get in the way of what they want to achieve. We have too many "leaders" who, instead, want to be liked and respected by their Beltway peers and the mass media. Even the liberals in the media mock Sharpton, but they never get in his way because he'll run them over.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
It is. I think if Letterman can get fired for this, it opens up a whole new category of people who now better tone down what they're doing or risk facing the same consequences.
Anybody in the business world would be held to task and made to face the consequences immediately, the very least which I could imagine would enforced 'sensitivity training' and some type of career setback.
Most of the time entertainment -- including sports -- is exempt because the upside of the money that the person can make a company outweighs the downside. Money is trump.
CBS doesn't care, until it hurts their wallet. Contact the advertisers. Olive Garden already responded to me that they've contacted CBS about it and are not happy. Doesn't mean they will pull their ads but its a start.
This is where I am at. Let the market decide. I don't think Imus should of been fired, or Letterman...even though I disagree with both of them. We shouldn't engage as conservatives in the same tactics progressives do. Let the markt decide, and as his numbers plummets, then fire him for having low ratings.
Firing Dave Letterman is no different than the gays making a roukus over prop 8 supporters.
If a person is a racist, by all means give them enough rope to hang themselves ( Imus ). And if someone is a perverted old man political hack...give him enough rope to hang himself. Shock jocks don't last.
I would agree that this should be spoken out against, where I draw the line is requiring him to apologize or firing him over his speech. We conservatives should not fire people just because we disagree with them, otherwise we are no different than the gay acticists who went after the prop 8 supporters.
A force apology is a worthless apology. Firing David would only have someone just like him replace him, and have it take awhile before the public recognizes the replacement is as big a tool as David is. Better to keep him there, and let the left defend his words. It makes Sarah and our movement better.
Where is Rosie O? For the so called boosts in ratings she gave the View, she has diminished in her influence...yet who replaced her on the View?
He was always a phony as a two dollar bill over the recent years, still is in someways, he would support one guy one day, another the next, it got to be in the last three years of his show I couldn't watch it as much as I used to...all libs most of the time...he'd brag about being one of the lone repubs in Manhattan at the voting places....on and on he would go...and he says his wife was a repub years back too...well they got to schmoozing with the leftists like the Kerry's and such and Deidre's greenie weenie BS, congress about autism...the self-importance with the dems over the years got too much for me.
I'm rambling on too much...but I hated to see him change along with his show, I used to love to catch it way back when, oh well, stuff happened, and in my opinion, his wife changed him into a wussified reptile.
Just my opinion of course.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I don't think Imus or Letterman should be forced to apologize or be fired...a forced apology is meaningless anyway.
Of course I think all civil right laws should go away as well. If a person holds a particular opinion, it isn't the business of government to put them out of business. ( Now doing business, thats a different matter... )
No kidding, the trick is how do we wake people up? Its simple...its the same principle army ants have against any bigger creature ( including human infants ) we unite, and everyone takes a bite and carries a load they can carry.
I'm waiting for Sharpton to have another protest. (hold your breath)
I especially appreciated how he campaigned to clean up rap lyrics. (turning blue now)
Maybe there is something to learn here. That was the turning point in Sharpton and Jackson significance. The younger generation of blacks gave them that derisive askance glance and moved on.
Wasn't long before another leader hit the scene. A leader who called for Imus' firing, but counted Rappers among his friends.
Anyone with a shred of decency should blackball Letterman. Simply turn him off. No audience. No Letterman. The louse will have to go find some other employment.
Firing is what Liberals do. They scream, holler and whine until the object of their manifestations just wants to get rid of the problem. Conservatives should be better than that so my answer is Other.
Letterman is feeling the heat and CBS should ask him to apologize and offer an apology themselves. Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that Letterman had no clue which daughter was at the game so his writers (or him if he actually wrote this) assumed it was Bristol. Not a good move and, had he said this originally and apologized for the error this would have been over, for the most part.
Hopefully, the pressure sends a message to liberals that it's time for them to stop with the attacks on Sarah Palin's children.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
I think you make a good point in one sense, nwahs, but are overlooking the context in which the 83% speak.
What they are probably saying is "What's good for the goose is good for the gander". Most of these people would not demand someone be fired for speaking no matter how repulsive.
But ... is there any doubt a conservative/Republican would have been called to resign or be fired by the entire world from day 1?
For the record, I voted "Other" and suggested Letterman be required to wear a fake arrow on his head for a year and write "I am a dumb and angry guy" on a chalkboard 520 times.
"For the record, I voted "Other" and suggested Letterman be required to
wear a fake arrow on his head for a year and write "I am a dumb and
angry guy" on a chalkboard 520 times."
That would work!
Another poster had a good line in a top 10 list of why Letterman is so angry. It was to the affect that during the last bypass, they accidentally connected one of the arteries to a bile duct :)
If one thing, maybe it will make people wonder why , after 7 months of being elected, Letterman refuses to make any jokes at Obama's expense, instead, filling the gap with Bush and Palin jokes? It would be like a bunch of white guys in a bar laughing and joking with each other, and when a black guy walks in, he's treated differently and no one jokes with him. Can you think of a more blatant form of prejudice?
I tend to agree with you. I think conservatives voting for firing/fines are doing so out of anger.
If conservatives say one word about Obama's kids...one word...they will be hounded off the air or out of office by the same liberals telling us to 'give Letterman a break'.
Even, obviously, if they apologize.
And liberals for some reason are terrified of Obama but have no problem slicing and dicing entire conservative families.
Why the kid glove treatment? Who's giving the 'hands off' orders?
I thought the media was fearless, irreverent and no one was off limits (at least within the bounds of taste).
"You don't pull on Superman's cape;
You don't spit in the wind;
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger-
And you don't laugh at the wunderkind.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
I think he harbors prejudice ( not necessarily malicious, but evidently conscious of a difference). He grew up in the Midwest in an all white neighborhood, and he doesn't know how to relate to black people. John Stewart seems to have no problem making Obama jokes. Now regardless of how you feel about Stewarts leftist politics, you have to concede Stewart and Letterman approach Obama completely differently.
Okay, so if your point is that this is a man who only keeps himself in check and won't open up his big mouth to insult somebody or be jerky IF he feels like he can't relate to them...then why can't we expect him to appreciate other differences (and shy away from other topics) that he knows not of ... like him not knowing what it is like to be a pregnant teen, for instance? I would think he would feel the need to stay far away from that one. That's pretty unfamiliar and uncomfortable territory for him, wouldn't you say?
Please don't insult our intelligence, or I'll have to go back and listen to more mellow music. ((^_^)) The guy has a liberal agenda. And he just happens to be a jerk as well. Those can be two totally separate issues. ;)
I disagree with Imus being fired for his comment and don't think Letterman should be fired for this comment either. This is PC correctness running amoke in the other direction from those calling for it.
Want to Boycott CBS or its advertisers? Fine, but I am getting sick of all these calls for people being fired because someone disagrees with something they said.
There appears to be a major disconnect between the poll vote and the comments, which is unusual.
While the large majority voted to for Letterman to be fired ... the vast mjority of those conservatives posting a comment, whilst disliking the gap-toothed unfunny man, don't agree.
My position also, as it happens.
“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!”
- and his stale schtick's about as funny as a train wreck. I say give Todd Palin five minutes alone with this creep- maybe then he'd get the hard education in moral clarity that he so severely lacks.
If Sarah Palin is SO silly and irrelevant, why the obsession? Clearly the Left noted her appeal, and are out to eliminate the threat- it’s not like it’s not obvious.
And she’s been highly successful in life while ignoring the left-wing feminist model… this helps to explain the extra dose of venom in the attacks.
Go get em, Sarah- and don’t mind the press, nobody will be listening to them anymore after the pending Obamamania implosion-
We must be relentless, not only for Palin but for any other good conservative that is thinking of getting into politics. This is what the liberals do, and why they are doing this to Palin. The message is: -this is what will happen to you if you dare espouse your conservative politics. This is how they handle conservative confirmations in the Senate as well. This is little different from the sliming of Clarence Thomas. This is as much about politics as it is about Lecherman.
And btw, enough of the strawmen. This is not about 'censorship', censorship is when the government prevents free speech. If See-BS fires Letterman, that's not censorship, it's a commercial decision. No one is asking CBS to cancel the show, if Letterman was fired they would just find another host, and it would probably be his maiden-in-waiting Craig Ferguson. Note that all those whining about 'a chill wind' and a 'precedent' were screaming the loudest for the firing of Imus, or Limbaugh, or Trent Lott, or George Allen, etc.
He should have to climb into the ring with me for ten seconds. No, make that five seconds. He wouldn't be able to talk, feed himself or walk for at least a month.
Call your cable or satellite company and demand that they remove CNN, MSNBC, and MTV from your entertainment package. Stop subsidizing the liberal left.
Late Night tv show host. It didn't kill his ratings. He won't get fired. Joke was written by writing staff.
I don't watch this guy's show cause he is not funny and he is not Conan O'Brien. If he wants his audience to be people who can appreciate disgusting potty jokes about young women then so be it.
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Had to vote 'nothing' on this one
June 13, 2009 - 14:36 ET by BKeyserFiring him is what Barry would do. Fining him is what Congress would do. Suspending him is what MLB would do. Nothing is what the free market would do.
'Other' is another viable choice- that's what Sarah Palin did.
I agree.
June 13, 2009 - 17:47 ET by UphillI agree.
That's Letterman
June 14, 2009 - 03:25 ET by LoosMooseLet's face it, Letterman's audience hates Bush/Palin/conservatives/Republicans, and that is why Letterman panders to them. He is in a major ratings battle with Conan now... and willing to pull out all the stops. Probably 90% of the people that visit this site do not watch him, I have NEVER been able to watch his show, the word SMARMY had to have been created just for this guy. He came out to AMR Eagle at JFK to be a "flight attendant" for one of his skits on his show, and I have flown a LOT of celebreties, and this guy was a walking turd. There will always be a bias, there will always be more dim bulbs to fill his audience than thinkers that find something constructive to do with their time. The mindless masses will need lowbrow humor and entertainment, so there will always be a place for an "entertainer" of his ilk. He is essentially an electronic nanny to those that are challenged by the most simple of lifes decisions, the same 54% that elected Obama Bin Lyin.
Voted 'other'. Just don't
June 13, 2009 - 14:41 ET by RR GOPVoted 'other'.
Just don't watch the guy.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
exactly what I said
June 13, 2009 - 16:50 ET by bobby-van-DYou took the words right out of my mouth. Let the free market decide his fate.
"I knew Reagan was great when I was only eight".-me
The free market is dead
June 13, 2009 - 21:54 ET by MazziThe free market is dead (witness: Olbermann). That's what has happened to our country - we conservatives have stood back to let the people and capitalistic principles decide, and the left has changed the rules of the game while we waited. The free market is populated by a huge herd of sheeple now - they do as they are told,so long as they get their plasma TVs and their I-Pods. The masses have turned into a bunch of zombies who are incapable of making decisions for themselves.
That's how Obeyme got elected. That's how our "free media" got hijacked, that's how our universities got infiltrated. We have to stop it NOW!
Luckily, we are smarter than the lefties. We can play catch-up quick, but we have got to start playing by the new rules before we can (hopefully) get back to the old ones. We need to scream louder than the left has ever been able to at injustices. We need tio make our voices heard, and we need to DEMAND that jackasses like Letterman take the same punishment that a conservative would for making a sick joke about a liberal's kid.
We can't afford to "do the right thing" now. The stakes are too high, and we are on a very slippery slope.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Mazzi Your King
June 14, 2009 - 02:40 ET by ShanghaiRayTotally and absolutely 1000% agree with you. I've been saying the same thing for a long long time but has fallen on deaf ears. Conservatives have always taken the high moral ground and the country has suffered dearly for it. The silent majority has remained silent for too long. Awaken consevatives and fight this..the enemy is on the doorstep and going back to sleep is not an option.
The free market is dead?
June 14, 2009 - 03:55 ET by Conservative VoiceI just think forcing an apology is meaningless...or firing him just so the network can hire a newer David Letterman...it just means you out bullied the bully, and your no different from the gay activists who went after the prop 8 supporters.
How to fight? Expose dave letterman for he is...a bitter old man who drinks the democrat kool aid. Spread the word. Enough disgusted people will turn him off and go somewhere else.
I for one am grateful of David Letterman, because its one more opportunity to expose how swarmy and vile the left has become, and its another opportunity that made Sarah Palin shine. I don't want to get rid of David Letterman, I want him to be the Poster child, along with bitter lady Pelosi, corrupt Reid and the lot.
I respect your opinion, and
June 14, 2009 - 23:34 ET by MazziI respect your opinion, and I agree with your in theory, but this is not about theory. These koolaid drinkers don't GET the nuances of what is happening. Most of them were barely aware of the brouhaha at all, until Letterman's *cough* apology *cough*. They guffawed at his "joke", and then were puzzled by the "apology", because they really have no idea.
We are not dealing with intelligent thoughtful people here. The critical thinking skills have been "taught" right out of them by out government run public schools for the last 30-some years. remember, these are the the same people who can tell you who won some Idol show last season, but have no frigging clue who Nancy Pelosi is. Or their own Senators.
Letterman is a conduit of left thinking to these zombies, which is fine (although irritating). He crossed the line, so he SHOULD be punished. He had the opportunity to punish himself with a real apology, and shunned it. So now he should be held accountable for his comments.
But more importantly - the left has created new rules. The rules are unsportsmanlike and distasteful, but by refusing to adapt to the new rules, they are pushing us off the field. We not only are losing our ability to win, but even to play. At some point, we will all be standing around saying "we may have lost, but we lost gracefully". That's where the analogy ends - because this is NOT a game. This is our childrens lives and the future of our very country. If we don't start playing by the new rules, we will lose big.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Sheeple - great stuff -
June 15, 2009 - 09:18 ET by kdizzydazeSheeple - great stuff - ipods and plasma TV's - you are not kidding about that with regards to the lemmings out there.
Letterman - haven't watched him in years and don't care what he says, but you are right - time to play by the lefty rules and defeat them at their own game.
Freedom of Speech and all that
June 14, 2009 - 09:14 ET by Redrowan2000If you don't like him turn him off.
However I think that Sarah owes this over the hill monologist a good bitch slapping.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down
Red
Freedom of Speech Has to Work Both Ways . . .
June 14, 2009 - 15:34 ET by DoktorFranken. . . . for it to be of any worth.
But your 'Beeotch Slap' idea put a great visual in my head.
Imagine - Governor Palin agrees to do the show. When she is introduced she comes striding out confidently and with a purpose. Dave arises to greet her and shake her hand. She hauls off and slugs the crap out of the 'Girly Boy', taking him out with one punch. She twirls around and walks off stage.
End scene. Hilarity ensues.
When and Why Did Dave Letterman Become the Leader of the Democra
June 13, 2009 - 14:42 ET by snaggletoothieMaybe conservative shows, for a few months, should have long discussions on the question: "When and Why Did Dave Letterman Become the Leader of the Democrat Party?"
WTF
June 13, 2009 - 14:54 ET by tonyrich300Why is Palin getting into this stupid celebrity feud
Tony..... Are you
June 13, 2009 - 16:51 ET by Gary P JacksonTony.....
Are you serious?
You got kids?
Let someone on national TV talk about one of them being raped by a baseball player one night, then call her a whore the next, and lets see how you like it!
Governor Palin has been very classy in this deal. In fact, she was on both the Today Show as well as CNN to discuss one of the most game changing energy projects in our lifetimes. The Trans-Canada pipeline.
Of course Lauer wouldn't let her talk about it, but to Blitzer's credit (man it pains me to give CNN credit) he discussed real world issues with the Governor.
How many of you think Letterman would not already be in a cell at Guantanamo Bay right now if he had made the exact same"jokes" about (to quote Sarah) "The Candidate who must be obeyed('s)" two kids?
The left would be calling for the death penalty!
Letterman should be fired.
Folks, here is the bottom line. We are at WAR.
We always talk about the "9/10 mentality" We talk about how on September the 10th, 2001 we failed to see that radical Islam was truly at war with us.
Oh, we realized there were "incidents". Battles, if you will. But we just kinda accepted them, and moved on. Then came September 11th. That beautiful Tuesday moring was destroyed by the most vicious attack ever on American soil. We realized we were at war.
As for the culture war, we need to stop having a 6/7 mentality. By that I mean June 7, 2009.
We have been fighting many battles in this war, for a long time, but we have never REALLY treated it as a war. The left wing HAS!
Look at what they have done to Carrie Prejean, for simply believing the same way most Americans, including the President do, about gay marriage.
And what about the Playboy blog where the liberal writer talked about "hate ****ing" beautiful conservative women like Megyn Kelly and Michelle Bachmann. THAT should have set the world on fire in lib land, but nothing much was done.
Then came Monday night, June 8, 2008.
That was the night David Letterman really attacked all women, and decent human beings.
Even better, Letterman followed it up the next night. And the next (with his BS "apology") Even Al Quaeda wasn't able to strike America again after 9/11!
This needs to be the line in the sand. The final straw.
If we allow the left to continually get away with this stuff, we will lose America forever.
This isn't about Sarah anymore. This is about everything that is good, and right, and decent in America vs all that is evil, nasty, and vile in America.
The left represents everything that is evil, nasty and vile. And right now they are winning. They are winning because we aren't even fighting!
Sarah Palin is our symbol. She is our rock. If she is not worth fighting to the death for, then what is?
But remember, we aren't JUST fighting for Sarah, we are fighting for everything we hold near and dear. We are fighting for America!
Obama and his thugs, including slime like Letterman are destroying America at warp speed. We have no choice but to fight back with all we have. We must fight with everything we have. We must never, ever let up for one second. Never, ever!
We either destroy them, or they will destroy us. It's just that simple.
Stop having a 6/7 mentality!
With that in mind, the folks over at the Fire David Letterman website have organized a protest for Monday that will take place at the Ed Sullivan theater during the live taping of David's show. If you live near NYC, go support them!
http://www.firedavid...
"Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only
attack and attack and attack some more".....General George S Patton
I'm With You
June 13, 2009 - 21:14 ET by kilrodI'm with you Gary P., we are at War. We have to ATTACK the media and force them back to fair, balanced, and honest reporting, commentary and programing. The only way to force them back to what is right and decent is to make them pay a personal price for trying to destroy what the USA used to stand for. We must make the individuals pay and we must make the corporations pay, that includes the major nets and their sponsors, to the point the talking heads are fired and the layoffs are so heavy in the corporate media that to get viewers back, thus advertisers, they are forced to deliver a decent product.
He who controls the information and the message controls the debate, he who controls the debate, wins.
kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
To say that means that all
June 13, 2009 - 18:05 ET by gmaniac1To say that means that all the women in your family are sluts, should be raped at a young age, and are downright deserving of sexist comments. So in your reality, this is true. If the comments were just about her politics, I would wholeheartedly agree.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Sorry but anyone who says that about your kids.......
June 13, 2009 - 18:20 ET by Lord ErondYou tear their f---ing heads off. There's no 'stupid celebrity feud'
You tear their heads off and say you're glad you did it.
If you don't understand that, you don't have children.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
Brilliant snaggletoothie. I
June 13, 2009 - 15:09 ET by USA4freedomBrilliant snaggletoothie.
I so hope that Rush or Hannity uses that.
That is what they do to them.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
st... I Second USA's
June 13, 2009 - 15:14 ET by bigtimerst...
I Second USA's Motion!
That is a great idea!!!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
What was that they said
June 13, 2009 - 14:51 ET by bigtimerWhat was that they said about Imus at first when his troubles started, and after he really apologized numerous times...it was said he needed a time out....yeah, that lasted how long?
What hypocrites the leftists are, what double-standards they always have.
Nothing changes with the phonies...never will either...
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Get over it
June 13, 2009 - 14:52 ET by tonyrich300What is wrong with you people?
If you don't like Letterman, don't watch him. SIMPLE
Don't be stupid kids screaming foul at everything you don't like
Well gosh, I guess we are
June 13, 2009 - 14:56 ET by motherbeltWell gosh, I guess we are all duly chastened and will shut up now.
Make sure you chime in on every thread now, and let us know which subjects we should comment on and which we should ignore....
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
tony, tony, tony, I don't
June 13, 2009 - 14:57 ET by bigtimertony, tony, tony, I don't watch him, wouldn't waste my time.
This is about the hypocrisy from the left.
If BOR of Hannity had said any of these words what do you think the leftist would be doing...eh?
Screeching at the top of their lungs all of them, including the politicians on the left.
Does Imus ring a bell?
Where were you then?
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
You really are dumb
June 13, 2009 - 18:23 ET by Lord ErondI already DON'T watch this gap toothed male slut.
It still doesn't give him the right to make vulgar statements like that.
You must be some dumb college lib.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
The only thing simple is
June 13, 2009 - 20:12 ET by gmaniac1The only thing simple is your mind tony.
If you don't like what's posted on here, don't read it, SIMPLE.
Don't be a stupid libtard screaming about everything you don't like.
See it works both ways.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Ridiculous solution
June 14, 2009 - 03:32 ET by sozinhoTony, this is a ridiculous statement. I already don't EVER watch Letterman and never would. He's a turd. I also never watched Imus, because I found him stupid. But even after profuse, legitimate apologies, Imus was dumped in response to the ever-whining libtards' wailing. They wouldn't shut up until he was gone.
This is the whole point. Conservatives sit back and take this crap, not pursuing any serious solution to the issue. Liberals scream and holler, proving over and over the theory of the squeaky wheel. Letterman's "apology" was no apology at all; it was another opportunity to repeat the slam at Palin, get another laugh, and minimize the seriousness of his saying he's "sorry." I, for one, am sick of the hypocrisy. The liberals will shout our objections down with the aid of the brown-shirted media, and eventually we'll have to shut up about it. Nothing will be done because we'll be made to look the fools, and our own members will soon be trying to hush us up.
Perfectly stated! "Nobody
June 14, 2009 - 12:36 ET by Gary P JacksonPerfectly stated!
"Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only
attack and attack and attack some more."_____General George S Patton
Fire him!
June 13, 2009 - 14:54 ET by DogOnCrackhttp://firedavidletterman.com/
http://firedavidletterman.ning.com/
I voted Nothing
June 13, 2009 - 14:55 ET by R D HelmFiring or fining him is what the freedom-hating, fascist left would want to see happen if Letterman were a conservative and had said something similar about a democrat's daughter.
Political correctness in ANY form has no place in a truly free country.
-Dave
Obama's health care "reform" plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof-Herman Cain
I agree, Dave; Letterman is
June 13, 2009 - 15:04 ET by motherbeltI agree, Dave; Letterman is a small fish in a small pond.
This is the most attention he's gotten in years.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Sorry but you need to start defining some lines in your life.
June 13, 2009 - 18:26 ET by Lord ErondPolitical Correctness is when you can't make Polish jokes
What Letterman said was an endorsement of statutory rape.
There is a huge difference.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
Yea
June 13, 2009 - 20:45 ET by nwahsI'm thinking Helm is secretly a liberal...
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We all agree, backward's shawn is an incredible deuche!
June 13, 2009 - 20:52 ET by pahuberHi backwards shawn.... musta bee busy elsewhere heh?
oh yeah...bzzzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzz bzzzzz
I'm sorry to disagree my
June 13, 2009 - 23:19 ET by gmaniac1I'm sorry to disagree my friend, but this is not even remotely political correctness. PC is when you can't call a black person black. When you make comments about a minor being raped, you deserve to have the hammer brought down on you hard. I would agree with the same sentiment if this were done to Chelsea Clinton or any of the Obama children. I'm sure the smarmy libtards now defending Letterman would be the first to cry foul if the situation were reversed. Speaking of Baby boy, where is he in all of this? I thought he said during the campaign that family should be off limits. I guess since the campaign is over the Dear Leader is reneging on his sentiments. Can I say "reneging" or is that not PC? lol
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Depends
June 14, 2009 - 00:05 ET by nwahs"PC is when you can't call a black person black."
That would depend on your politics, now wouldn't it?
http://newsbusters.o...
Maybe in your mind it's
June 14, 2009 - 19:57 ET by gmaniac1Maybe in your mind it's that simply stated but in reality it's not poilitical at all. It has become political hence the term political correctness. So why not call white people European American? All white people do come from some region in Europe.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Not really
June 14, 2009 - 20:49 ET by nwahsWhen a person coins a bombastic phrase like " I want him to fail" its politically incorrect in his fans eyes to say its irresponsible. Its logically in bounds as it affects a leaderless country, a floundering country. I want neither, and Gingrich wants neither. But to Limbaugh fans, calling his coined bombastic phrase, irresponsible, is politically incorrect. You're a rabel-rouser, you're unclean in dittoland. It does depend on your politics what is PC.
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shawn... You just can't
June 14, 2009 - 20:54 ET by bigtimershawn...
You just can't help yourself when it comes to bringing Rush up all the time...your hatred shows...plus it's getting old.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
I bringing it up because
June 14, 2009 - 21:04 ET by nwahs99% of the angst or hatred toward me on this site is because I say Rush is wrong. People call me a liberal, troll etc. I ask them to please quote my most liberal post and nothing comes forth, because I don't make liberal posts. There's nothing remotely liberal about me so finding a liberal post isn't going to happen. But I am politically incorrect. I don't suckle on every syllable uttered by Limbaugh and his fans see a need to destroy such dissension. Thats not leftest or liberal. Thats politically incorrect. The people needing to stifle disagreement are closer to Stalin than Reagan.
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Oh yeah, I've watched your
June 14, 2009 - 21:13 ET by bigtimerOh yeah, I've watched your tactics over time.
Been a riot.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
More garbage
June 14, 2009 - 21:15 ET by nwahsAnd no facts. The only tactic I have is being an individual and not a sheep.
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Pray tell, you don't
June 14, 2009 - 21:23 ET by bigtimerPray tell, you don't say.
We've been down this road numerous times....carry on...as I will.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
No - 99% of the hatred for
June 14, 2009 - 23:55 ET by MazziNo - 99% of the hatred for you is because you are a whiny jerk who simply wants to argue with everyone about everything.
Common sense would tell you that Rush has got to be right about at least half of what he says. He cites his sources and can back up his facts. He then applies his own interpretation to the things that he has evidence of. Again, common sense would say that he is probably right more often than not, because he connects the dots. He doesn't just spout out his "feelings", he has ample evidence to support his ideas. Now you - a little peon on a message board, want to argue with every word that Rush says. You don't document what you say, you don't connect the dots - you just chant the "Rush is wrong" or "Rush is an idiot" mantra.That holds no weight among thinkers, and this site is rather full of thinkers.
I bet a buck if we did a survey of this audience, every single person who likes and listens to Rush would say that they DISAGREE with him on one or more topics. I would say that myself. But when I disagree with him, I can tell you why, and it's not just because "he is a jerk".
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
its a joke - get over it.
June 13, 2009 - 14:56 ET by criticalthinkingits a joke - get over it. Hey, when did you guys get all PC
Hey crit...the sun is
June 13, 2009 - 14:59 ET by bigtimerHey crit...the sun is shining, you need to close your curtains, jump in your crypt and come out after the sun goes down like your suppose to.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
ROFLMAO! Best quip of the week and made me spew my beer!
June 13, 2009 - 18:33 ET by pahuberOMG, keep 'em coming! You seem to have my sense of humour.
Some joke
June 13, 2009 - 14:59 ET by Kat Outta the BagHey, when did you guys get all PC
When the so-called "joke" is made at the expense of an innocent child who has nothing to do with the dirty world of politics and show biz, that's when.
Since when did a dirty joke
June 13, 2009 - 15:02 ET by motherbeltSince when did a dirty joke about a 14 -year-old become a matter of political correctness?????
Barack Obama is an adult....and was running for public office.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
its a joke - get over
June 13, 2009 - 20:37 ET by Paleo2kits a joke - get over it.
June 13, 2009 - 15:56 ET by criticalthinking
its a joke - get over it. Hey, when did you guys get all PC
Not PC...merely expecting a little CD (Common Decency).
because honestly, your
June 13, 2009 - 14:57 ET by criticalthinkingbecause honestly, your outrage is rediculouse, coming from the folks that shrugged off 'Barak the magic negro' with a giggle.
Who coined the phrase Magic
June 13, 2009 - 14:59 ET by motherbeltWho coined the phrase Magic Negro?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
mb... It doesn't matter
June 13, 2009 - 15:03 ET by bigtimermb...
It doesn't matter how many times we show them with words, links etc....they still eat the pages.
Agenda is all that matters with pieces of work like crit.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
which is why he/she won't
June 13, 2009 - 15:05 ET by motherbeltwhich is why he/she won't answer the question.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Maybe he will Giggle it and
June 13, 2009 - 16:49 ET by SickofLibsMaybe he will Giggle it and find out for himself.
Nah.
→ I'd tell you mb
June 13, 2009 - 17:00 ET by Cool ArrowBut you already know who coined "magic negro.
And I'm not sure, but I think Dezi Arnaz, as Ricky Ricardo, coined "rediculouse"
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Yes, I do. ;-) I didn't
June 13, 2009 - 18:00 ET by motherbeltYes, I do. ;-)
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
crit.. Read above dumb
June 13, 2009 - 15:00 ET by bigtimercrit..
Read above dumb ass.
You are one of the stupidiest trolls we have ever had here.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt, Yet notice the phony
June 13, 2009 - 15:27 ET by Chris Normanbt,
Yet notice the phony condescending tone these bomb throwers use, trying to pass themselves off as superior to everybody else here. It's really almost humorous.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
That is a "rediculouse" comment, Mr. Norman
June 13, 2009 - 16:48 ET by SickofLibsHis sooperiorouity shuld be quit aparint to all.
– I voted for "Barak"
I know I'm in awe.
June 13, 2009 - 17:07 ET by Chris NormanI know I'm in awe. :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Nice how they hit and run
June 13, 2009 - 17:13 ET by bigtimerNice how they hit and run eh Chris...heck I just watched a tear-jerker that I've seen years ago, but love the music and even cried at the end and the troll still hasn't anwered.
Nothing new with these troll-byes.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Here's a hint. If you can't
June 13, 2009 - 16:57 ET by Gary P JacksonHere's a hint. If you can't spell the big words, don't use them. It makes you look ridiculous.
...not to mention all those
June 13, 2009 - 19:41 ET by ckc1227...not to mention all those people who called him by his middle name. Oh, the horror.....
First of all, that comment
June 13, 2009 - 23:29 ET by gmaniac1First of all, that comment was made by a columnist in one of your beloved liberal media outlets, the Times. If you actually did some research you may not openly look uneducated. Secondly, Rush actually disparaged the columnist for writing to make a point of a double standard that McCain didn't get in the same right. Again, a stupid libtard losing another argument over being lazy. PC is calling a stupid jerkoff like yourself a stupid jerkoff. PC would be me having to say that you are mentally challenged instead, which is accurate by all accounts. Condoning rape of a 14 year old girl is not PC, it's sick. So defending Letterman shows how morally "rediculouse" and inept you truly are.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Don't react like a leftie
June 13, 2009 - 15:03 ET by FrankBCome on, you don't fire someone 'cause of speech. It's supposed to be free you know, even when in bad taste. Giving this moron all this attention is a waste of time. Ignore him. Think "Alfred E Newman", you'll feel better.
I usually try to do that
June 13, 2009 - 15:08 ET by bigtimerI usually try to do that FB...jus sick of them today...they've been coming out of the woodwork all over the place for a week or more...some days I ignore...some days I don't...and this is one of them.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Firing creates a martyr
June 13, 2009 - 19:32 ET by needleThat is why I voted to suspend and fine him
A) His absence will be noted and enjoyed, and
B) When and if he comes back, it will be almost impossible to not recall why he was absent.
All of this without being Draconian.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Really?!
June 13, 2009 - 15:05 ET by monotonousboyAren't we the party who defends personal rights, no matter how repugnant someone chooses to be with those rights? Letterman is a douche and has been since he started, but can we seriously consider calling for him to be fired for excersizing free speech? Was what he said wrong? Hell yes. Is there any place for speech like that in civilized society? No. Should Letterman be fired? If there were any real justice in this world, yes. Will he be? No. Should we demand his firing? No. Let him keep his job and continue to be a demeaning ass on the left. It allows us just one more opportunity to contrast our beliefs and practices from the Left.
Great News for Obama Supporters
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RG... I love it! Plus a
June 13, 2009 - 15:18 ET by bigtimerRG...
I love it!
Plus a Telepromter or two back-up stand in's just in case one refuses to work, or the other blown over by the wind....
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hillary, Albright, Ginsberg, Step up!
June 13, 2009 - 15:26 ET by flyingmonkeyDon't forget the crowd of ugly liberal women to throw their granny-panties at him.
Hey, criminalthinking, I'm still rejoicing. Throw another tantrum.
→ It's bad, monkey
June 13, 2009 - 17:33 ET by Cool ArrowEarlier this week it was Ruth Bader Ginsberg allowing the sale of Chrysler by Judicial Fiat. I made a funny.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
RO... ...LMAO... Leave
June 13, 2009 - 17:41 ET by bigtimerRO...
...LMAO...
Leave it to you, that was witty!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Free speech?
June 13, 2009 - 15:24 ET by DogOnCrackFreedom of speech has NOTHING to do with it.
You check your first amendment rights at the door of your workplace.
This is about unprofessional behavior.
Would anyone here still have their job had their employer heard them say such a thing?
CBS is responsible with providing it's viewers with content that meets their standards and if the viewers don't like him, he's gone!
The boycotts are already underway.
"This is about
June 13, 2009 - 19:34 ET by ckc1227"This is about unprofessional behavior."
Newsflash....it's Dave's job to be unprofessional and controversial.
"The boycotts are already underway."
Mostly by people who don't even watch the show, contradicting your argument "if the viewers don't like him, he's gone".
Tired
June 13, 2009 - 15:31 ET by okiehawk44I'm a little tired of turning the other cheek all the time to show liberals that I am above the fray and better than that and all the rest. We lived through 8 years of George W. Bush NOT responding to an almost hourly barrage of invective meaning that his supporters (me for one) had to carry the water for him in numerous debates and on pages like this one. I'm tired of it folks! I am not going to do this anymore for anyone. I believe we have been way too nice for way too long. Letterman! If I were the father of Sarah Palin's children I would call you out as the coward that you are. I am calling you out as a person with daughters and granddaughters, a mother, a sister, a wife and many other women in his life who truly believes you are a cowardly misogynist. You hear that Dave? Fire the damn creep now CBS if you respect women.
The Bar Stool Test
June 13, 2009 - 15:35 ET by Chris NormanI've already done my part. I pre-boycotted this creepy old man years ago. Anyone who says this old coot is funny is just pretending to get his "humor". He never was very funny - just really strange and in the last few years, alarmingly so - and nasty. If I was sitting next to Letterman while he was performing his schtick on a bar stool, I'd move all the way down to the other end of the bar - if not saying, "Tab, please!"..
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Nothing should happen
June 13, 2009 - 15:44 ET by ClericalGalGov. Palin has said her peace, and should not say any more. I think she won this fight, and commenting further would look like piling on. Letterman should keep his job; he would become a leftist martyr like Bill Maher if he were fired.
red leather gimp suit
June 13, 2009 - 15:49 ET by SickofLibsHe should be forced to spend a long weekend as Perez Hilton's sex slave wearing a red leather gimp suit.
Then he may learn the meaning of respect.
→ SOL
June 13, 2009 - 16:07 ET by Cool ArrowWhat makes you think that would necessarily be a repugnant to him?
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Hmm... good point, Cool
June 13, 2009 - 16:24 ET by SickofLibsProbably be a welcome break break from his transgendered wife.
(That's a joke, Dave, in case you're listening)
– I didn't leave the Republican Party because I was never in it the first place.
→ Tandem med procedure
June 13, 2009 - 16:31 ET by Cool ArrowYeah, she had a Lopitoffamy, donating to Chas' Addadictomy.
(That's a joke, Dave, in case you're listening)
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
You guys have me cracking
June 13, 2009 - 16:36 ET by bigtimerYou guys have me cracking up laughing here...in between the thunder lightening all around me.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Nappy
June 13, 2009 - 16:09 ET by CaringwhiteguyDave should be eternally grateful he didn't call the Palins "nappy headed hos".
Come to think of it, had he used the Imus language to describe the Palins it wouldn't have been any worse than what he did.
I feel like I'm taking
June 13, 2009 - 16:09 ET by CacciatoI feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Is the Palin - Letterman 'story' really dominating the Newsbusters home page?
This 'controversy' might be the single, stupidest non-story ever created.
The joke was harmless.
Palin wears trashy calf high leather boots so letterman said she looked like a slutty stewardess. Her daughter got pregnant so letterman made fun of her penchant for getting pregnant.
Not that funny, just obvious and boring.
So what? Are we really wasting time on this?
"Are we really wasting time
June 13, 2009 - 16:17 ET by Chris Norman"Are we really wasting time on this?"
Well, gosh. We didn't realize you had more important topics to comment on. I'll tell you what, why don't you go comment on those deadly serious topics somewhere else and we'll stay here and waste our time. We'll call you when we're through...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
→ Cacciato
June 13, 2009 - 16:19 ET by Cool ArrowYou're late, and once again, uninformed.
All you've done here is let us know you agree with Letterman. Small surprise you enter the conversation with misogynistic machismo.
Now we know how you got season box seats.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
These little trollsters are
June 13, 2009 - 16:28 ET by bigtimerThese little trollsters are busy little gnats today aren't they.
Saturday is a good day to stomp them out...I'm sick and tired of them this week. ..they must know something we don't about Obama losing his throne with some in their own party...of all venues.
Must be little worry warts.
The trolls are never happy people, even after O won, they are everywhere whining, they can't help themselves.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Tru dat bt
June 13, 2009 - 16:37 ET by Cool ArrowDid you catch the part how the man judges that women who wear high boots are trashy?
In another country, he'd be saying women who don't wear a scarf are whores.
Strange, that boots, that cover skin are treated as a mark of sluttiness.
But that's ciaccato for you. He can tell a lot about a woman by whether she wears boots.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Yeah I caught it....like to
June 13, 2009 - 16:40 ET by bigtimerYeah I caught it....like to meet him in person when I'm wearing a pair of mine.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
The kid has 'penchant' for
June 13, 2009 - 16:41 ET by SickofLibsThe kid has 'penchant' for getting pregnant? She's had multiple pregnancies and can't stop herself? Not a good idea to use fancy-pants words you don't know the meaning of.
PS: Stories are not "created" here at NB; you're thinking of MSNBC. And if you do have an Rx for crazy pills, you should be taking them regularly if you think this whole thing is "harmless."
Okay, the joke is harmless
June 13, 2009 - 19:35 ET by gmaniac1Okay, the joke is harmless huh? Well I guess your mom wasted a prime opportunity to prostitute herself while trying to conceive you. How's that for joke?
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Nothing should be done to
June 13, 2009 - 16:11 ET by garyganuNothing should be done to Letterman, just as nothing should have been done to Don Imus or "Dawg the Bounty Hunter".
I am certainly no big fan of any of them, but I don't believe that we should be on a path to censorship.
Political correctness is already an insidious form of censorship.
By endorsing this form of censorship, we are leaving ourselves vulnerable to even more censorship of conservatives in the media.
Public shame and stigma should be brought to bear on Letterman and hopefully he will lose market-share and his show will die a natural death.
http://garyganu.blogspot.com
Exactly!
June 13, 2009 - 16:20 ET by Crash"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." Some Guy
Letterman is an asshole, not even he would deny it. It's like Roy being nailed by a Tiger and wondering ... why?
Now that I've said that ... it's open season on Obama's Family and his ugly wife who has a mouth that looks like it belongs on a vicious piranha!
How do turn a fruit into a
June 13, 2009 - 16:59 ET by Dan DiegoHow do turn a fruit into a vegetable?
→ I don't know Dan
June 13, 2009 - 17:07 ET by Cool ArrowDoes Barney Frank have Alzheimers?
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
→ I apologize
June 13, 2009 - 17:08 ET by Cool ArrowSometimes I can't help it.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Cool Arrow...
June 13, 2009 - 17:24 ET by Georgia GirlI can't believe I am directing you to check out a forum that "backward Shawn" has, but I am. LOL. And if you see Bigtimer around, would you tell her I am directing her there as well? Go to the forum section & play the song that I have on there, if you will ... from me. You both have been working your behinds off on this site & have had some frustrating days lately. I'm on a writing deadline and have to get off here -- if I'm ever going to finish my articles on time ... and I can't remember which forum it is (I know, what a ditz)! ^_^
But play the song -- and breathe... and smile. :) And for gosh sakes, would ya ask "Backward Shawn" if he can a least spell his name forward now -- pleeeeeze?^_^ That is so distracting. ;)
→ Had a bad day
June 13, 2009 - 17:27 ET by Cool ArrowI prefer Anna Nalick's "Breathe 2am"
I got enough of "had a bad day" when it was the "see ya later" song for a whole season on American Idol.
The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black - Joe Biden
Cool~American Who?
June 13, 2009 - 17:34 ET by Georgia GirlLOL -- American Idol? I have never watched it. I guess that would be me and three other people in the U.S.!
Make that FOUR other
June 13, 2009 - 18:04 ET by motherbeltMake that FOUR other people...I'm one of you!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Five... The
June 13, 2009 - 18:22 ET by Chris NormanFive...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Have a White Tiger drag him
June 13, 2009 - 17:11 ET by Dan DiegoHave a White Tiger drag him across stage.
I know, bad form and all that
Freedom of Speech does not give you the right to yell "Fire"
June 13, 2009 - 18:42 ET by Lord Erond...in a crowded movie theatre when there is none.
Endorsing or making jokes about the statutory rape of a 14 year old girl is similar. Don't tell me he had Bristol confused with Willow. The gag was written in advance.
If you believe otherwise, your parents failed to give you even the most basic standards of decency and humanity.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
And it's comments like this
June 13, 2009 - 23:34 ET by gmaniac1And it's comments like this that make me understand why the Republican party has gone a stray. When did we quit defending ourselves? This is NOT a PC issue people! If it were, I'd would understand people saying this is an overraction. If it were about her politics or someone calling her "sweetie," then I'd say get over it. This pervert went after her family and her character for nothing. He wants to argue politics, fine. The rest of that garbage is not for public airwaves.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
right on
June 13, 2009 - 23:45 ET by delmarPC is a pretty recent phenomenon. Defending family honor goes back somewhat further in time.
That it does. Doubling
June 13, 2009 - 23:52 ET by bigtimerThat it does.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
FIRE HIM
June 13, 2009 - 16:51 ET by Dan DiegoThis is not a question of should we protest, boycott advertisers, etc., but what we THINK is appropriate for his disgusting comments. He has a right to say whatever he wants, he does not have a right to have it broadcasted or be paid for it.
He has the right to 'joke' we have a right to protest.
June 13, 2009 - 18:46 ET by Lord ErondThis is just like the whole Natalie Maines thing. The stupid whore thought that people had no right to call for a boycott of her music but she felt she had every right to go out and scream about how embarrassed of GWB she was.
Libs are the ultimate bullies. They can do anything they want, say anything they want, behave anyway they want and you're not supposed to be upset. But when they scream, yell and carry on, we're supposed to just sit here and take it. In other words, it's a typical lib who doesn't think there are any consequences or there should be no consequences for their actions.
Sorry. WRONG.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
You are correct Lord Erond, first and formost I want to praise
June 13, 2009 - 18:54 ET by pahuberthe conservatives who have spoken out against DL's rape joke.
Second, those who want to play intellectual advocates, of some sort, by ignoring the facts of DL's rape joke do not realize that many liberals play into their 'rationale' are able to stifle the debate within our own group.
Many liberals on this site would love to team up with those few and stifle any real outrage against the left and that is what they are counting on happening.
Do not participate with them.
Peace In ~
: )
CBS should make Letterman ...
June 13, 2009 - 17:22 ET by metaphorsbwithuInstead of delivering his monologue right away as usual, Letterman should be required to wear one of those fake arrows on his head ( a la Steve Martin) and begin the show by writing "I am a dumb and angry guy" on a "blackboard" 10 times every night for the next 52 weeks.
metaphorsbwithu
Other...
June 13, 2009 - 17:38 ET by jdripperIf Sarah Palin had a clue she would jump on a plane with Willow and go on Letterman's show and have him apologize to Willow there.
Letterman would do it. First of all it would THE ratings bonananza of the year.
Second it would allow Sarah Palin to get above the fray instead of this bizarre morning show she did.
Third Letterman is slowly but surely winning this argument. He will always have the last word.
Fourth it allows her to take the high road in front of millions of people.
Fifth there is no way Letterman would be cruel or nasty with Willow there.
If she wants to play in the big leagues she has to learn how to be a player.
Jack
"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart. If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains." Sir Winston Churchill
jr... I see where you are
June 13, 2009 - 17:54 ET by bigtimerjr...
I see where you are coming from, but I disagree with Letterman is winning this argument...how do you figure that?
Second, I would never allow my daughter to be used that way...period.
Third, I would never give Letterman the satisfaction, not the ratings.
Fourth, and this is my opinion, no more should be said about this from her...maybe Todd if he wanted, but I'd let it lie now.
Just my thoughts...I know we all see things though different view-finders in life.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
And Letterman will have the
June 13, 2009 - 19:19 ET by ckc1227And Letterman will have the last word even if Palin does what you suggest, plus he'll get a ratings boost to boot. Whatever apology you believe will be forthcoming will be erased the next night with a new Palin top 10 list.
The last thing Palin should do is go on his show and justify his existence even more than she already has.
Conservatives have been
June 13, 2009 - 20:15 ET by gmaniac1Conservatives have been doing this for quite some time and looking very weak in the process. I say let him squirm a bit. Palin is one of the commissioners of the big league, so no need to be just a player. Remember, Palin is the ratings guru just by being somewhere. Letterman is a burnt out old man who has been making snide, desperate remarks about children to get ratings.
Your theory though well intentioned is not very sound.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
'Playing in the big leagues' shouldn't include...
June 14, 2009 - 23:13 ET by Tailgunner...sexual jokes of any kind against a candidate's children, scurrilous and libelous stories about the 'true' parentage of Trig Palin, being called 'slutty' in any way, lewd and obscene 'photoshopped' pictures or other similar and gratuitous character assassination.
I refuse to accept your premise that such despicable treatment 'goes with the territory'...especially so far as it involves persons like Letterman who are nominally expected to observe some standards of common decency.
This is similar to the treatment of Carrie Prejean.
History will remember Carrie as an honest and courageous young woman who knew she was almost certainly throwing away the pageant.
That human jackal, Perez Hilton, who posed that loaded question, however, will be remembered if at all as nothing more than a scumbag.
Letterman may win the battle, at least with his amoral fans, but Palin will win the war. Her poll numbers are probably skyrocketing.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
Family is sacred to the
June 13, 2009 - 17:45 ET by dmntd1Family is sacred to the conservatives in this country. When you add Letterman's comments to the anti-life, pro-abortion, screed of the left, you realize that family, and therefore life, is not sacred to the far left. There are exceptions to every rule, but it appears rather obvious...
WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,
Please drop it....
June 13, 2009 - 18:45 ET by notinstl...let him die a long, slow, painful ratings decline....
Can him
June 13, 2009 - 18:53 ET by delmarIt's not about free speech. He has no right to a network TV show--if he does, I want one of my own. Hey CBS, be smart: cancel Lecherman and bring back The Unit.
I'm all for letting the
June 13, 2009 - 18:54 ET by fitzfongI'm all for letting the market decide this one. In reality, the shareholders and the advertisers should choose which side of the line in the sand to stand on...and let us consumers decide with our discretionary income whether or not they chose to stand on the right side.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Would you call the company store the market?
June 13, 2009 - 19:41 ET by needleHaven’t you noticed? The MSM has pretty much a Teflon relationship wrt “the Market.” This contributes significantly to their arrogance.
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
Well, they do now. But at
June 14, 2009 - 13:00 ET by fitzfongWell, they do now. But at some point, they're going to need more revenue streams to continually generate their propaganda. If Obama's policies continue to erode economic growth, the money won't always be there to support their existence. Meanwhile, the organic outrage (based on practical experience) will build and counterbalance the media spin. Money talks...and, if misused, Teflon can be temporary.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Hey fitzfong,
June 13, 2009 - 22:10 ET by pahuberWhile I really agree with your premise where and when do we get to show our outrage concerning liberal intolerance?
Just a question.
pahuber
One of the great challenges
June 14, 2009 - 12:53 ET by fitzfongOne of the great challenges when it comes to solving problems through the market is that you have to overcome individual apathy at the grass roots level. Ultimately, the media is going to have a much larger platform with which to present its spin on the matter...and individuals who are naturally checked out are often going to accept the mass media spin if they are not engaged at the local level. If you look at the Tea Party movement, for example, the revolt began at the local level where people whose needs were largely ignored on the national level and in the last several elections, were starting to experience the tangible consequences of the policies put forward by the federal and state governments with the cheerleading of mass media to take care of the disengaged. People who had been doing the right things, living within their means, paying their mortgages and saving for their retirements were put in the position of being punished for their personal sacrifices by being forced through taxes and bailouts to subsidize the irresponsible. Eventually these people had suffered enough abuse to push back...to gather with their neighbors to express their frustration. The mass media largely portrayed the Tea Parties as "phony", "Fox News-driven" organized events...but they weren't. They were grass roots pushes that picked up widespread attention for their organic growth (like the revolt that stopped the amnesty bill). The problem is that like the Tea Parties and the Amnesty Revolt, the outrage over the Letterman/Palin incident is in danger of flaming out...it seems like in both the Tea Party and Amnesty cases, the grass roots worked so hard to express their outrage to achieve one small objective (expressing resistance of new taxes and bailouts/defeating the Amnesty Bill) that the organizers have made the events seem like isolated affairs...everyone expressed their discontent and went home thinking "job done". When you have an enemy like individual ignorance/indifference fueled by mass media drops, you have to be relentless, constant. In other words, you, at the local level, keep at your friends and acquaintances and highlight the occasions that prove this wasn't an isolated incident. Individuals throughout the country feel the same way about it as you do, if they do the same, people at the local level will start to pay attention. If you keep at it and don't give up, you'll start to convince more and more people...at that point it becomes a city, then state, then national movement picking up steam and garnering attention from like-minded organizations with money to underwrite your efforts. Then the sponsors start to pay attention and make their calculations based on the momentum. It's hard work, and will be met with much resistance...but the more resistance, the higher the sensitivity and vulnerability on the other side. The leaks start materializing and the defenses become weaker. At that point, you have the opportunity to bring the whole thing down. If you treat this Letterman/Palin incident as the whole war as opposed to the first of many battles, you'll have already lost...there isn't enough support for your position to make it happen now, and there are plenty in the mass media who will come to his defense on a grand scale to more than neutralize your outrage with the indifferent. If you treat it as the first of possibly many battles in bringing Letterman to his knees, you might have a decent shot.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
→ I agree fitz
June 13, 2009 - 22:23 ET by Cool ArrowIf advertisers want to spin that wheel, they should have that right.
I didn't like Sharpton's approach to Imus, and I don't expect to be led on this one.
America's moms and dad, by and large, love their children. It's silly of me to think they aren't disturbed by Letterman's leap.
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One thing to say for
June 14, 2009 - 13:06 ET by fitzfongOne thing to say for Sharpton...he never gives up. He's a caricature, but more often than not he gets what he wants done. We don't have many relentless conservative activists these days, who, like Sharpton, don't let perception get in the way of what they want to achieve. We have too many "leaders" who, instead, want to be liked and respected by their Beltway peers and the mass media. Even the liberals in the media mock Sharpton, but they never get in his way because he'll run them over.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
No, he shouldn't be fired.
June 13, 2009 - 19:46 ET by balboaNo, he shouldn't be fired. That's a scary precedent to set.
Precedent?
June 13, 2009 - 20:01 ET by metaphorsbwithuPrecedent?
You're kidding, right?
As in the firing of Don Imus?
That horse is already out of the barn.
metaphorsbwithu
This is different than Imus.
June 13, 2009 - 20:07 ET by balboaThis is different than Imus. This is a joke made about a specific public figure.
→ Right again bal
June 13, 2009 - 20:10 ET by Cool ArrowThat's why I think Dan Rather's National Guard joke is a better parallel.
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Letterman...Imus...
June 13, 2009 - 20:11 ET by Kat Outta the BagBoth are creepy old guys and both have made inappropriate, offensive comments about women and one is no better than the other as far as I can see.
Oh ... I see.
June 13, 2009 - 20:13 ET by metaphorsbwithuI forgot ... this a 14 year-old (or her older sister) in the public eye instead of a group of adult women in the public eye.
That is different.
Makes sense to me.
metaphorsbwithu
It is. I think if Letterman
June 13, 2009 - 20:17 ET by balboaIt is. I think if Letterman can get fired for this, it opens up a whole new category of people who now better tone down what they're doing or risk facing the same consequences.
Yeah, "tone it down" guys!
June 13, 2009 - 20:29 ET by metaphorsbwithuThat's for sure.
I don't think a "comedian" would dare make a joke about anyone's little girl having sex with an adult male in public again without consequences.
There goes freedom of speech! Right? :-P
metaphorsbwithu
No, it doesn't put free
June 13, 2009 - 20:33 ET by balboaNo, it doesn't put free speech in danger. But it would definitely put a "chilling effect" on anyone on TV, radio, print, the web, etc.
→ bal
June 13, 2009 - 20:42 ET by Cool ArrowAre you saying comedy has suffered because there is a "chilling effect" when it comes to assassination jokes?
Do you think we should open up the floodgates to that one too?
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I don't know what you're
June 13, 2009 - 20:45 ET by balboaI don't know what you're talking about.
I'm talking about who is being joked about, not the subject.
Bal, you are supposed to be the rational troll. You know...our
June 13, 2009 - 20:47 ET by pahuberpersonal village idiot.
You are embarrassing us!
(rhetorical): "HR would like to speak with you"
June 14, 2009 - 14:27 ET by SickofLibsWhy is "entertainment" exempt from this?
Anybody in the business world would be held to task and made to face the consequences immediately, the very least which I could imagine would enforced 'sensitivity training' and some type of career setback.
Most of the time
June 14, 2009 - 17:38 ET by balboaMost of the time entertainment -- including sports -- is exempt because the upside of the money that the person can make a company outweighs the downside. Money is trump.
Yes it's so chilling....
June 13, 2009 - 21:05 ET by Lord ErondBecause God forbid we wouldn't want anyone else in the future to NOT be able to joke at statutory rape now, would we?
"Chilling".....what idiocy. I hope this does have a chilling effect on anyone who decides to joke about statutory rape.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
Speaking of "chilling"
June 13, 2009 - 21:20 ET by metaphorsbwithuIs it just me, or do you find it "chilling" that this point even has to be debated?
metaphorsbwithu
Boy, you're really, really
June 13, 2009 - 23:33 ET by balboaBoy, you're really, really trying hard to not understand my post. Congrats, champ.
Sounds Familiar
June 14, 2009 - 08:16 ET by flyingmonkeyMy exact sentiments a couple of weeks ago Bal. But I think that time you were leading the charge.
Um no, it's worse than
June 13, 2009 - 20:16 ET by gmaniac1Um no, it's worse than Imus. This joke was made about raping a certain public figure's daughter. Try again my friend.
When the people fear the government it's called tyranny, when the government fears the people it's called liberty!
Hi Balboa, please present your case as to why it is scary...
June 13, 2009 - 21:04 ET by pahuber"No, he shouldn't be fired. That's a scary precedent to set."
Oh No, Balboa! Please tell us why that is a scary precedent to set?.... Like Don Imus... God forbid! We have standards!!!
Letterman
June 13, 2009 - 19:55 ET by ndulikHe shouldn't be fired for these offensive remarks. He should be hung by his b--ls for a career full of offensive remarks
Contact advertisers
June 13, 2009 - 20:00 ET by guefyCBS doesn't care, until it hurts their wallet. Contact the advertisers. Olive Garden already responded to me that they've contacted CBS about it and are not happy. Doesn't mean they will pull their ads but its a start.
http://www.firedavid...
Sensible folk should just tune him out...
June 13, 2009 - 20:05 ET by wnaegeleSigh!
'just tune him out'... Dr. Tiller! now paging Dr. Tiller...
June 13, 2009 - 20:44 ET by pahuberanother fan awaiting your procedure ; )
Oh yeah, you're a typacle spectacle. LOL
No, 'sensible folk' should call for his bacon on a platter.
June 13, 2009 - 22:13 ET by pahuberGo sigh somewhere else.
I vote "nothing." Same as
June 13, 2009 - 20:28 ET by GregEI vote "nothing." Same as my Don Imus vote.
This is where I am at.
June 13, 2009 - 22:23 ET by Conservative VoiceThis is where I am at. Let the market decide. I don't think Imus should of been fired, or Letterman...even though I disagree with both of them. We shouldn't engage as conservatives in the same tactics progressives do. Let the markt decide, and as his numbers plummets, then fire him for having low ratings.
Firing Dave Letterman is no different than the gays making a roukus over prop 8 supporters.
If a person is a racist, by all means give them enough rope to hang themselves ( Imus ). And if someone is a perverted old man political hack...give him enough rope to hang himself. Shock jocks don't last.
"Let the markt decide, and
June 14, 2009 - 08:26 ET by flyingmonkey"Let the markt decide, and as his numbers plummets, then fire him for having low ratings."
I can see how this is working over at MSNBC cv. No, it's time to speak out. Taking the high road has gotten us nowhere.
David Letterman
June 14, 2009 - 13:08 ET by Conservative VoiceI would agree that this should be spoken out against, where I draw the line is requiring him to apologize or firing him over his speech. We conservatives should not fire people just because we disagree with them, otherwise we are no different than the gay acticists who went after the prop 8 supporters.
A force apology is a worthless apology. Firing David would only have someone just like him replace him, and have it take awhile before the public recognizes the replacement is as big a tool as David is. Better to keep him there, and let the left defend his words. It makes Sarah and our movement better.
Where is Rosie O? For the so called boosts in ratings she gave the View, she has diminished in her influence...yet who replaced her on the View?
CBS should apologize
June 13, 2009 - 20:59 ET by TN MomCBS has insulted Flight Attendants, a Govenor, WOMEN, and young girls. As a mother of daughters, Katie Couric's silence is unforgivable, SHAME on CBS!
CBS= Child Bashing Station
→ Katie's silence
June 13, 2009 - 21:10 ET by Cool ArrowKatie better keep her mouth shut or they'll replace her with Perez Hilton.
Time for another gimmick.
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It was wrong for Imus
June 13, 2009 - 21:38 ET by nwahsAnd its wrong here. The only difference is the party label of the hypocrites.
http://newsbusters.o...
→ Nope
June 13, 2009 - 21:53 ET by Cool ArrowImus is a Democrat. Looks like the Republicans are more forgiving than the Dems. We actually believed he was contrite.
When we hear an honest "I'm sorry" from Letterman, and we don't accept it, your observation of hypocrisy will be valid.
I hope you're not proffering he's already given one.
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Cool... Imus has always
June 13, 2009 - 21:57 ET by bigtimerCool...
Imus has always claimed he is a republican...you know, the RINO type though.
I've watched/listened to him change over decades now.
Been an interesting trip.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
→ Maybe you're right
June 13, 2009 - 22:04 ET by Cool ArrowI used to watch his morning show, and I was sure he said he was a Dem.
I guess I was wrong.
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He was always a phony as a
June 13, 2009 - 22:27 ET by bigtimerHe was always a phony as a two dollar bill over the recent years, still is in someways, he would support one guy one day, another the next, it got to be in the last three years of his show I couldn't watch it as much as I used to...all libs most of the time...he'd brag about being one of the lone repubs in Manhattan at the voting places....on and on he would go...and he says his wife was a repub years back too...well they got to schmoozing with the leftists like the Kerry's and such and Deidre's greenie weenie BS, congress about autism...the self-importance with the dems over the years got too much for me.
I'm rambling on too much...but I hated to see him change along with his show, I used to love to catch it way back when, oh well, stuff happened, and in my opinion, his wife changed him into a wussified reptile.
Just my opinion of course.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Do you have list?
June 13, 2009 - 22:00 ET by nwahsDo you have a list of Republicans that were calling for Imus' head or an apology? I can't find one.
I'm gona tell you - I wasn't. Im not the PC police.I HATE PC police.
http://newsbusters.o...
I don't think Imus or
June 13, 2009 - 22:28 ET by Conservative VoiceI don't think Imus or Letterman should be forced to apologize or be fired...a forced apology is meaningless anyway.
Of course I think all civil right laws should go away as well. If a person holds a particular opinion, it isn't the business of government to put them out of business. ( Now doing business, thats a different matter... )
→ Me too ConVoice
June 13, 2009 - 22:35 ET by Cool ArrowI can't think of any violent crimes that aren't also hate crimes, so it all seems doubly repetitively redundant.
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CV... I agree...but yet
June 13, 2009 - 22:36 ET by bigtimerCV...
I agree...but yet congress does this, and nothing is made much at all of this in the msm.
This should be of utmost importance....and it hasn't been.
Eerie as hell.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
No kidding, the trick is how
June 13, 2009 - 22:45 ET by Conservative VoiceNo kidding, the trick is how do we wake people up? Its simple...its the same principle army ants have against any bigger creature ( including human infants ) we unite, and everyone takes a bite and carries a load they can carry.
Winner
June 13, 2009 - 22:39 ET by nwahs^^^^^
Winner
People are smart. Let people decide. There is no worse deterrent to bad behavior than extinction.
http://newsbusters.o...
I'm in the 13 % tile, Nothing, who cares,view elsewhere..
June 13, 2009 - 21:54 ET by upcountrywaterI like a free market. Let em, blow bucks, on a looser..
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
→ Me too also
June 13, 2009 - 22:16 ET by Cool ArrowI'm waiting for Sharpton to have another protest. (hold your breath)
I especially appreciated how he campaigned to clean up rap lyrics. (turning blue now)
Maybe there is something to learn here. That was the turning point in Sharpton and Jackson significance. The younger generation of blacks gave them that derisive askance glance and moved on.
Wasn't long before another leader hit the scene. A leader who called for Imus' firing, but counted Rappers among his friends.
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Agreed, but what if they get 'their money' from us taxpayers?
June 13, 2009 - 22:15 ET by pahuberJust a thought.
If not yet, soon, very soon, state sponsored media. SSM
June 13, 2009 - 22:24 ET by upcountrywaterbail out baby..I can smell it.
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
Anyone with a shred of
June 14, 2009 - 00:11 ET by NL207Anyone with a shred of decency should blackball Letterman. Simply turn him off. No audience. No Letterman. The louse will have to go find some other employment.
Other
June 14, 2009 - 07:51 ET by pbthinkerFiring is what Liberals do. They scream, holler and whine until the object of their manifestations just wants to get rid of the problem. Conservatives should be better than that so my answer is Other.
Letterman is feeling the heat and CBS should ask him to apologize and offer an apology themselves. Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that Letterman had no clue which daughter was at the game so his writers (or him if he actually wrote this) assumed it was Bristol. Not a good move and, had he said this originally and apologized for the error this would have been over, for the most part.
Hopefully, the pressure sends a message to liberals that it's time for them to stop with the attacks on Sarah Palin's children.
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
It would appear
June 14, 2009 - 09:42 ET by nwahs83% here talk the talk, but don't walk the walk:)All this firing and fining stuff is so Sharpton-esque.
I completely agree with your post, BTW.
http://newsbusters.o...
Good for the gander?
June 14, 2009 - 10:53 ET by metaphorsbwithuI think you make a good point in one sense, nwahs, but are overlooking the context in which the 83% speak.
What they are probably saying is "What's good for the goose is good for the gander". Most of these people would not demand someone be fired for speaking no matter how repulsive.
But ... is there any doubt a conservative/Republican would have been called to resign or be fired by the entire world from day 1?
For the record, I voted "Other" and suggested Letterman be required to wear a fake arrow on his head for a year and write "I am a dumb and angry guy" on a chalkboard 520 times.
metaphorsbwithu
That would work :)
June 14, 2009 - 12:08 ET by nwahs"For the record, I voted "Other" and suggested Letterman be required to
wear a fake arrow on his head for a year and write "I am a dumb and
angry guy" on a chalkboard 520 times."
That would work!
Another poster had a good line in a top 10 list of why Letterman is so angry. It was to the affect that during the last bypass, they accidentally connected one of the arteries to a bile duct :)
If one thing, maybe it will make people wonder why , after 7 months of being elected, Letterman refuses to make any jokes at Obama's expense, instead, filling the gap with Bush and Palin jokes? It would be like a bunch of white guys in a bar laughing and joking with each other, and when a black guy walks in, he's treated differently and no one jokes with him. Can you think of a more blatant form of prejudice?
I tend to agree with you. I think conservatives voting for firing/fines are doing so out of anger.
http://newsbusters.o...
Liberals' double standard is amazing.
June 14, 2009 - 21:24 ET by TailgunnerIf conservatives say one word about Obama's kids...one word...they will be hounded off the air or out of office by the same liberals telling us to 'give Letterman a break'.
Even, obviously, if they apologize.
And liberals for some reason are terrified of Obama but have no problem slicing and dicing entire conservative families.
Why the kid glove treatment? Who's giving the 'hands off' orders?
I thought the media was fearless, irreverent and no one was off limits (at least within the bounds of taste).
"You don't pull on Superman's cape;
You don't spit in the wind;
You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger-
And you don't laugh at the wunderkind.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
What Obama giveth with one hand he taketh away with both hands.
Priceless. Doubling down
June 14, 2009 - 21:42 ET by bigtimerPriceless.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
In Letterman's case
June 14, 2009 - 21:58 ET by nwahsI think he harbors prejudice ( not necessarily malicious, but evidently conscious of a difference). He grew up in the Midwest in an all white neighborhood, and he doesn't know how to relate to black people. John Stewart seems to have no problem making Obama jokes. Now regardless of how you feel about Stewarts leftist politics, you have to concede Stewart and Letterman approach Obama completely differently.
http://newsbusters.o...
Nwahs~
June 15, 2009 - 18:48 ET by Georgia GirlOkay, so if your point is that this is a man who only keeps himself in check and won't open up his big mouth to insult somebody or be jerky IF he feels like he can't relate to them...then why can't we expect him to appreciate other differences (and shy away from other topics) that he knows not of ... like him not knowing what it is like to be a pregnant teen, for instance? I would think he would feel the need to stay far away from that one. That's pretty unfamiliar and uncomfortable territory for him, wouldn't you say?
Please don't insult our intelligence, or I'll have to go back and listen to more mellow music. ((^_^)) The guy has a liberal agenda. And he just happens to be a jerk as well. Those can be two totally separate issues. ;)
Double standard
June 14, 2009 - 09:41 ET by jeffinsacI disagree with Imus being fired for his comment and don't think Letterman should be fired for this comment either. This is PC correctness running amoke in the other direction from those calling for it.
Want to Boycott CBS or its advertisers? Fine, but I am getting sick of all these calls for people being fired because someone disagrees with something they said.
There appears to be a major
June 14, 2009 - 09:49 ET by Jack BauerThere appears to be a major disconnect between the poll vote and the comments, which is unusual.
While the large majority voted to for Letterman to be fired ... the vast mjority of those conservatives posting a comment, whilst disliking the gap-toothed unfunny man, don't agree.
My position also, as it happens.
jessieH Does
June 14, 2009 - 09:56 ET by jessieHjessieH Does Letterman have more power than Don Imus? Or is the left showing their true colors?
The problem is not with
June 14, 2009 - 10:51 ET by billbThe problem is not with the snarky moron who made the comments, but with the audience that thought the comments were funny!
Letterman is a deranged slob
June 14, 2009 - 11:32 ET by Reaganite Republican- and his stale schtick's about as funny as a train wreck. I say give Todd Palin five minutes alone with this creep- maybe then he'd get the hard education in moral clarity that he so severely lacks.
If Sarah Palin is SO silly and irrelevant, why the obsession? Clearly the Left noted her appeal, and are out to eliminate the threat- it’s not like it’s not obvious.
And she’s been highly successful in life while ignoring the left-wing feminist model… this helps to explain the extra dose of venom in the attacks.
Go get em, Sarah- and don’t mind the press, nobody will be listening to them anymore after the pending Obamamania implosion-
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com
Bold!! If I may be so
June 14, 2009 - 12:17 ET by Jack BauerBold!!
If I may be so bold myself.
Going Alinsky
June 14, 2009 - 11:49 ET by slickwillie2001Here's a good plan on the Lecherman problem -going Alinsky on his butt. This is how the liberals would handle it.
Going Alinksy on Letterman: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/288504.php
We must be relentless, not only for Palin but for any other good conservative that is thinking of getting into politics. This is what the liberals do, and why they are doing this to Palin. The message is: -this is what will happen to you if you dare espouse your conservative politics. This is how they handle conservative confirmations in the Senate as well. This is little different from the sliming of Clarence Thomas. This is as much about politics as it is about Lecherman.
And btw, enough of the strawmen. This is not about 'censorship', censorship is when the government prevents free speech. If See-BS fires Letterman, that's not censorship, it's a commercial decision. No one is asking CBS to cancel the show, if Letterman was fired they would just find another host, and it would probably be his maiden-in-waiting Craig Ferguson. Note that all those whining about 'a chill wind' and a 'precedent' were screaming the loudest for the firing of Imus, or Limbaugh, or Trent Lott, or George Allen, etc.
10 seconds
June 14, 2009 - 14:22 ET by CatherwoodHe should have to climb into the ring with me for ten seconds. No, make that five seconds. He wouldn't be able to talk, feed himself or walk for at least a month.
Call your cable or satellite company and demand that they remove CNN, MSNBC, and MTV from your entertainment package. Stop subsidizing the liberal left.
Lot of Butthurt.
June 14, 2009 - 17:24 ET by someloudthunderLate Night tv show host. It didn't kill his ratings. He won't get fired. Joke was written by writing staff.
I don't watch this guy's show cause he is not funny and he is not Conan O'Brien. If he wants his audience to be people who can appreciate disgusting potty jokes about young women then so be it.
Don't Be Hypocritical Now
June 15, 2009 - 08:18 ET by Mr.BohI didn't believe Imus should have been fired.