What Effect Will Palin Have on McCain's Chances?

Help a lot
77% (5320 votes)
Help somewhat
13% (883 votes)
Help a little
3% (210 votes)
No real effect
1% (70 votes)
Hurt a little
1% (43 votes)
Hurt somewhat
1% (71 votes)
Hurt a lot
3% (199 votes)
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2% (107 votes)
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The media is missing the point...

The media is criticizing McCain for selecting a female, thinking he did it to get Hillary supporters. 

I know that, as a conservative, my reaction to the pick is to finally be excited about this election.  I am so tired of hearing that our party is only for "old white men."  We know there are good women, African-Americans, and other minorities in our party. Finally, one of the women reaches the forefront.  Since she has more experience in the executive branch of government than McCain, Obama, and Biden combined, she may be more qualified than any of them to lead.

McCain has made history by forever removing the stereotype that Republicans are all "old white men."

I love it.

The media is criticizing


The media is criticizing McCain for selecting a female, thinking he did it to get Hillary supporters.

It may be true that that's his strategy, but notice that they say that in a derogatory way.

However, "Mr. Change" chooses a 35-year veteran of the Senate, and they hail it as brilliant!

But they're not biased......

For the record, I don't think it will draw a lot of Hillary supporters, but it might other women, and it certainly reinvigorated the hanging-back conservatives!

Very well said

the MSM and the Democrats still believes that the only way to stay in business is to fan the flames of racism and sexism to the American public.

McCain did do it to get Hillary Supporters (Affirmative Action)

He sure didn't do it because she was the most qualified choice, which was Romney.

I am so happy you think the GOP should become the affirmative action party and start picking good Women, African Americans and other minorities instead of the most qualified person for the job.

Her executive experience is very limited:

- Former Mayor, Wasilla City, Alaska, 1996-2002 (pop: 6,715) (Votes: 909)
- Governor, Alaska, 2006-present (less than 2 years) (pop: 670,053)
Total Career Political Votes: 188,125

Yours is really an embarrassing post, goes against every conservative principal and simply promotes affirmative action.

PT, you attack like a limp

PT, you attack like a limp wristed Liberal. Talk about how she has governed. Talk about her integrity. Talk about the waste she refused to take part in... that was championed by the Republican party. Talk about the fact that she (unlike most other potentials) is a true small government Conservative.

Her experience is better than that of Obama... and her integrity is better than that of any other potential VP pick on either side.  

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"A society that puts equality...ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom." ~ Milton Friedman

I think we all need to suck

I think we all need to suck it up and accept that this one long-standing NB member simply doesn't like the Palin pick, and we should moveon.org. 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

Shy...

I think you nailed it.

Hey, did you see my PM?

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goal

Again I don't support Affirmative Action

I am glad that you do, it has nothing to do with "like" - it has to do with qualifications for the job the same ones you keep hitting Obama with.

PT & EVERYONE

I think we all need to suck it up and accept that this one long-standing NB member stands by his assertion that Palin does not have the necessary qualifications for the job of VP (a perfectly valid argument, too), and we should moveon.org. 

There. 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

Yeah, Shy

I'll stipulate that PopT can't stand Sarah Palin as the VP nominee.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.  But when it becomes trollish in the extreme.......with the same post put up thread after thread.....

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

B

I know! Some people are extra-stubborn, and simply have to have the last word, er, post. So, when it's two or more members like this, you get.... infinity.  

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

B - even as stuborn and

B - even as stuborn and querulous as I am, I can see you guys are right about PT.

Free

It's okay, you can include my name in your post above, too.

Cooooome on, you know you want to. 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

Free

MrS.... Oh WOW is all I

MrS....

Oh WOW is all I can say...trippy.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BHO has no experience.

I think it is funny that BHO's henchmen and women keep saying Palin is not experienced but if you look at BHO thin resume he hasn't done anything but vote present over 100 times. BHO isn't anything but a Saul Alinsky crone and a community agitator.

No I will keep talking about her (lack) experience and education

Because those are how I judge if someone is qualified for a job. Sorry if you use emotional irrelevant points.

Talk about how she governed? What for less than two years and one budget cycle?

- Republican fanboys like her, not a reason.

- She has not proven to be a small government conservative when she has little to no experience running the state!

Keep comparing her to Obama, as if that qualifies her. You know nothing about her integrity, please stop talking like you do.

Yep , the gaul of that

Yep , the gaul of that Palin woman is amazing. Good conservative women aren't supposed to run for office, their supposed to stay at home baking cookies and having babies like Mrs. PT does.  

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Just what I said...

No woman apparently don't have to have much of an education, much political experience or run a corporation, we should just vote for them because they look nice and are a woman.

But you said it much better!

Common' Pop, she has

Common' Pop, she has EXECUTIVE experience!  I like you and don't want to get into a fight but she is more qualified than Obama! He has NO executive experiance! She has more than Obama, Biden, McCain combined!!! Give her a break. She took on her own party and cleaned up a corrupt system in Alaska, that takes "balls"! She doesn't play around, she get's things done. At least give her that.

"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"

You know you are right!

Her executive experience simply is overwhelming me...

- Former Mayor, Wasilla City, Alaska, 1996-2002 (pop: 6,715) (Votes: 909)
- Governor, Alaska, 2006-present (less than 2 years) (pop: 670,053)

PT, I sure don't feel embarassed...

I like Governor Romney.  He would also have been a good choice.

Affirmative action is when an employer is forced to hire someone based upon their status as a minority.  No one forced John McCain to pick Governor Palin.  To the contrary, he saw her as the most qualified person to help him win the election.

Palin choice jujitzu

The democrats can't win the "inexperienced" argument with Palin. 

Palin's political experience is at least on par with Obama's.  She has more executive experience, and more political accomplishments than Obama; he has been running and preparing for the oval office longer than she has. But, Obama is shooting for the top spot - Palin is not. 

A vice president is in a much better and safer position to learn on the job than a president.

Palin has a real record of political achievement enacting reforms in Alaska and taking on the republican establishment there.

Obama supporters stutter and stammer around desperately trying to come up with ANY courageous, or innovative legislation that Obama has sponsored and successfully passed in his entire career - because he has none.

And it is Obama who has argued that judgement not experience is what counts (judgement like staying in a racist, neo-marxist church for 20 years).

I happen to agree with Obama's assertion that judgement (and I would add - character) are far more important than experience in the oval office.

Look at all the experience that ex-president Jimmy Carter has running around the world undermining U.S. foreign policy and breaking bread with genocidal, anti-Semitic bigots.  He's got lots of experience and crap for judgement (and, I might add, he appears a very bitter and unhappy man). 

Parker1227

I agree with your post.  I wonder about those who say that Senator Biden fills in for the weaknesses of Senator Obama.  Are they planning to be attached together at the hip during Obama's presidency?  If someone asks Obama a foreign policy question, will his response be "wait a minute, I gotta go ask Joe?" 

Unless John dies on day one

Being for VP for even one week creates more experienced than 35 years and 143 days in the Senate.

McCain / Palin  '08

It's the conservatives, stupid!

All this yammering about whether or not Palin will attract female Hillary supporters misses the point. While Palin may bring some centrist female voters, what she really does is nail down the conservative vote. Rush Limbaugh may never warm to McCain, but now he's willing to cheer the ticket, Also, if Palin turns out to be the real thing, conservatives can think about two terms of Palin in the White House sometime in the near future...

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did

 

wnaegele

Spot on that is what I have been saying as well. 

Its the conservatives! 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Its the conservatives!  

2012

I've already heard someone hoping for a Palin/Rice ticket for 2012 and ironically mentioned them running against Hillary and a 'minority' to be named later.

 

 

2012 Palin / Steele

What I'd really like to see is a Palin / Steele ticket for 2012

 

Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !

i like Palin /

i like Palin / Jindahl 

 

 

FINALY A REAL CANDIATE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!

http://zod2008.com/index.htm

That works too ! 

Absolute Disaster - Palin/Jindal

Give me a break. Intelligent Design in public schools? Over my dead body.

Hmmmmm... Coffin waiting in

Hmmmmm...
Coffin waiting in rm 111...

Intelligent Design will NEVER be in Public Schools

Just because everyone that is scientifically illiterate supports it does not make it a violation of church and state. Intelligent Design is not science and never will be.

I am so glad that metal,

I am so glad that metal, plastic, and silicon evolved into this laptop computer I'm using to connect to Newsbusters.

All thanks to Time and Chance.

I am so glad you think your laptop is a living being

Did you flunk science in school?

I am so glad you think your

I am so glad you think your laptop is a living being

Let me know when you can find those words in my post.  I'm just talking about metal, plastic, and silicom becoming a laptop.

And I like how you're avoiding the issue my comment raises.

 

Time and Chance.  LOL!

Then you are confused about what I am talking about.

Then you are confused about what I am talking about. Please don't embarrass yourself and think that is some form of comeback to my comment - it just make you look ridiculous.

you miss the point that the

you miss the point that the computer is designed and yet much less complex than the finger you use to type on it with.

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Oh never mind you win

The science flunkies are out tonight.

spoken like a true

consensus bully

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Intelligent design is not

Intelligent design is not science? Fair enough.

Neither is Global Warming.

Nor the fact that increased taxes degrades the econ0my.

Or even that liberal socialism degrades scoiety.

But all seem to be taught in the classroom.

So, find that coffin and jump in.

When idiots attack

I love the knee-jerk idiots who have been replying to my posts - it makes great entertainment and a perfect example of my concern for the GOP.

Okay: Please prove using

Okay:

Please prove using science that increasing tax rates improves economies.

Please prove using science that any form of global warming we have encountered in the past 50 years is caused by any form of increased carbon dioxide.  In your post please account for all increases in solar radiation as witnessed by increased temperatures on all other planets in our solar system during the same period.

I could ask for more, but will hold off for now to see how you do in these.

Keep digging the hole, this is fun

Dig deeper! Come on! You have no idea how hard I am laughing.

By your lack of analytical

By your lack of analytical reply it is apparent you have no answer to these questions.

Sad, but probably a product of liberal/civilian schooling at its "Best."

When did NB invite idiots to post?

Please go ask someone who I am. I cannot take it anymore.

Okay, WHO ARE YOU???? I

Okay, WHO ARE YOU????

I am BD.  If you wish a quick bio I can provide one upon request.

We know and love your expert analysis BD

Poptech seems to think he can rest on his laurels. He thinks that because he's made a good argument on one thing we'll all consider him right on everything else.

He's obviously lacking in maturity and thinks that he's some kind of untouchable star here. How dare you question him! What a joke.

Your Bio question is sooooooooo perfect because your resume rocks. I don't know what his is but I doubt it compares. I think he's very young.

I made no such suggestion

I simply embarrassed the new clown, who tried to attack me on positions I have clearly supported. I am still laughing.

Okay, who are you and what

Okay, who are you and what positions have you clearly supported ?

By the way, I will assert that while you might consider me a clown, I am hardly new now moving well beyond my second year of posting here.

I cannot stop laughing

I have never laughed this hard before in my life.

I am glad to help your stae

I am glad to help your state of humor.
Why you are laughing is of course unclear.

pop tech

embarrassed the NEW clown???

BD has been here for 2years 45 weeks ya noob!!!

(oh sorry, you were refering to yourself? okay carry on)

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Sorry for embarrassing the Clown

I will try not to in the future but please stop making it so easy for me.

based on the general

based on the general reaction here the only one you're embarassing is yourself or haven't you noticed? 

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

I feel so ashamed

I will try to stop making so much sense and break out the pom-poms.

The idiotic knee-jerk responses I am getting are classic.

your posting only makes sense

when viewed as an indication of a napoleonic complex

me against the world baby!!

your not short are you?

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Nope

I keep laughing though.

hang in there the manic

hang in there the manic phase will end

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Posters

PT, You invite us to find out who you are. Here are some choices for you: boring, troll, boring, your own term idiotic, boring, trouble maker, boring, a$$, boring, pain, boring, schmuck, boring, doofus, boring......etc. Go ahead pick one and then do us a favor, f**k off.

You need to add....

You need to add laughing uncontrollably,

BD

one thing pop does well is provide a debunking of AGW

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Then kudos to him, but I

Then kudos to him, but I note he has not replied to my posting below regarding children of flag officers in the military.

I assume it is because he knows none.

You seem to suggest that

You seem to suggest that global warming can be atttibuted to an increase in the output of the sun. Here's a thought...collect  all the excess carbon dioxide from the atmosphere....freeze it into dry ice and then launch it into the Sun.!!

That will take care of the excess CO2 and cool down the sun at the same time.. I gotta be some kind of genius!!!

ID is not science

no it is a theory which is to be tested and either validated, modified, or abandoned by the use of the scientific method.  Very much the same way the theory of evolution continues to fail in being validated and has been modified by adding the theory of 'punctuated equilibrium' to it's processes.  The theory of 'punctuated equilibrium' itself has yet to provide a drive mechanism and will also require much research.

now get off your high mule

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

This isn't Bible Study

How many science classes did you fail?

none

in fact my largest gaff was to not go to MIT after being accepted ah but i was young and stupid once, seems you still are

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

What no ID courses?

I can understand.

????

???? what are you talking about your comment has nothing to do with anything

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Hello!

You didn't go to MIT because they had no courses in Intelligent Design... man.

i'm sorry, you don't explain

i'm sorry, you don't explain yourself well, but no that had nothing to do with it.

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

also poppy

where did you get anything about the Bible from this stuff? your CDS is showing again you must be hallucinating

her you go amuse yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn1GaaLhz4g

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

The complete Affirmative Action Ticket! Is this the Daily Kos?

Are you crazy? Since when did the GOP become the party of Affirmative Action?

Lets see why you chose Steele..... maybe because he is black! This is so pathetic. I am sure you chose him over all the other former Lieutenant Governors governors for his qualifications!

So I take it everyone supports Affirmative Action now - hypocrites.

It was Lt. Governor and the

It was Lt. Governor and the fact that I like the things he says when he speaks.  As opposed to Obama who says things I don't like to hear, such as "tax the rich" (meaning me, I have a job) or "change" (meaning let's build a Marxist society).

Race had nothing to do with it.  If you were paying attention in chat last week, I said that McCain had to pick one of either Kasich, Jindal, Palin, Romney, Steele, or Watts.  Notice I nevr mention anything about race?  And do you even know who Kasich is?

 

Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !

Hypocrite Affirmative Action Supporter

Are you going to sit here and tell me you are supporting Steele simply because he was Lieutenant Governor? Please don't ever talk about Obama's lack of experience again.

You can want a black guy to win *without* "affirmative action."

I'm living proof. And I wonder what folks here, including you, would be saying if my first choice -- Prof. Walter Williams -- had been selected as VP? Bruce Tinsley (Mallard Fillmore cartoonist) and I and many other fiscal conservatives were REALLY pushing for this, but Williams said "no." Was/is he qualified?

AFAIK all he's done is be an economics professor, write some books & articles I liked, and co-host for Limbaugh (the only times I find that commercial-filled radio show listenable these days). No political office or "executive experience" (spending other peoples' tax money) whatsoever, but I've thought he was more than qualified to be POTUS for the past decade, and I'd still think so if he was white. Or any other color. It's about his brain, for some of us.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Steele is an affirmative action pick and you know it

Steele is a clear conservative and nice man but suggesting him for VP is an affirmative action pick and you know it.

Your choice of Williams is based on his extensive economic experience - Ph.D. Professor of economics.

I've expressed no opinion on Steele

But does Williams' economics expertise qualify him for POTUS? I think so, even though he's spent nobody's tax money AFAIK.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Come on be honest...

I am talking about Steele, not Williams. He is not being selected for his B.A. in International Relations.

I fully agree about economics BTW.

I *am* being honest

But I'm talking about Williams, not Steele.

I think Williams might fail your "qualified" test, but I'm not sure what weight you'd put on being an economics professor & writing stuff sarcasmo likes reading. As for Steele, I think he's a very bright guy, but for various reasons which are totally off-topic for this discussion I do not trust him as much as I trust Prof. Williams to actually shrink government, instead of just talking about shrinking government. That's a big issue with me, because I've seen 2 decades of outright Republican theft of Libertarian rhetoric. However, trust from sarcasmo is only a qualification for sarcasmo's vote, and IMO both men are fully qualified to be VP even if I happen to like one more than the other.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Poptech - what kind of dream world have you been living in?

Elected candidates are never the most qualified for their positions and never will be. Elections are about image and a more attractive candidate has a huge advantage over a less attractive candidate. There can't be any question in anyone's mind that McCain is more qualified than Obama. George HW Bush was obviously more qualified than Clinton. Clinton won because he was more attractive. Al Gore was more experienced than GW Bush and he lost because he was less attractive.

Qualifications are handled by Cabinet members. Positions, character and ability to lead are the most import qualifications. With those qualifications, you also need an electable image. It's not fair - it's the way the world works.

It's the same in business. People promoted to management are often not the smartest, they are promoted for their ability to lead and motivate the smart people.

Sarah Palin has proven she can lead and get things done, Obama has only proven that he can follow the mob bosses - he's never taken the lead on anything. His character and positions pale in comparison to Palin's. Palin is more qualified than Obama and probably even more than McCain. Both are more qualified than the empty promise do nothing Obama.

It's not pathetic to choose Steele or Palin for the diversity they bring as long as they meet the qualifications (leader, character, positions). All the qualifications in the world don't matter if you can't get elected.

 

Wrong Analysis, Gore was not more qualified than Bush

Gore was not more qualified than Bush

Al Gore:

Educations:
- B.A. Government, Harvard University, 1969

Political Experience:
- U.S. Representatives, 1977-1985
- U.S. Senator, 1985-1993
- U.S. Vice-President, 1992-2000

Professional Experience:
- Journalist, United States Army, Vietnam, 1969-1971
- Investigative Reporter, The Tennessean, 1973-1976

George W. Bush:

Education:
- B.A. History, Yale University, 1968
- M.B.A. Harvard University, 1975

Professional Experience:
- Pilot, Texas Air National Guard, 1968-1973
- Former Board Member, Tom Brown Inc.
- Founder/CEO, Bush Exploration, 1975-1986
- General Partner, Texas Rangers Baseball Organization, 1989-1994

Political Experience:
- Governor of Texas, 1994-2000

Successful businesses are run by smart people, you obviously do not have much private sector experience.

It is pathetic to support Affirmative Action and "Diversity" - what the hell is wrong with you people? Have you all been brainwashed by the left?

I know, why don't

I know, why don't you rant on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on....

and that will make you feel better. Well, probably not. Get used to disappointment, November is just around the corner. At least your posts might coin the phrase "he suffers from PDS"

 

"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."

--The Dooper

This isn't a rant

This is a comment to a flawed analysis with the evidence in front of your face. It has nothing to do with November. Do you people even check the posts you reply to.

There were so many

There were so many to choose from, I happened to pick this one to say the obvious. Don't "you people" get tired of opening your mouth and inserting foot?

 

"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."

--The Dooper

Happy, Happy...Joy, Joy

Truly a master stroke for the GOP..and I thought the son of cain was an idiot...Mrs. Palin has already turned the dumbocraps into a bunch of babbling idiots. Just read the Dims arguments of late...they are like cockroaches scrambling across the kitchen floor in a downtown crack-shack.

She has only given one little speech so far and the lefty media are biting their tongues off trying to belittle her!

Man oh man is this delicious! Thank you, Sen. McCain!

While there is a serious

While there is a serious problem with her experience, and it somewhat takes it off the table as a hammer for the Republicans. (not that it will stop the Democrats or the MSM).

The good part is that a large part of American will say to themselves: Hey they are complaining about her qualifications as VP.. yet Obama is about the same (or Less) qualifications for President .

 

I for the FIRST TIME this year have a reason to vote FOR  the Republican ticket, rather then against Obama.

 

I have been smiling for days.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.