What Do You Wish For President Obama On Inauguration Day?

Great success -- he deserves it
1% (115 votes)
Great success -- the country needs it
22% (1730 votes)
Success in ending recession and protecting nation, failure at everything else
15% (1184 votes)
Success in ending recession, failure at everything else
0% (36 votes)
Success in protecting the nation, failure at everything else
8% (623 votes)
Total failure so that GOP can take back Congress and WH
5% (361 votes)
Total failure -- his socialist policies scare the heck out of me
37% (2900 votes)
Nothing in particular
10% (795 votes)
Total votes: 7744

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I wish he does no

I wish he does no harm. "Success in ending recession and protecting nation, failure at everything else " "Success in ending recession, failure at everything else "Success in protecting the nation, failure at everything else " Who says those are his goals? If we've learned anything from democrats it's that they will work for THEIR OWN benefit, not America's. If Republicans want something for America's benefit, they'll have to pay through the nose for it

a wish? Olbermann comes to mind

I don't usually have such wishes - but for once, today, when Keith Olbermann opens his big mouth and trashes President Bush - I hope that he swallows his tongue - and turns green on national TV. (:~/

Can't help but agree with

Can't help but agree with you on that one.

I wish him success in

I wish him success in protecting our nation. Beyond that, I hope his policies go down in flames. If enacted, we will have serious problems 

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

well...

It took eight years for the Clinton problems to explode... all those loosey-goosey rules changes enacted to push the lie of 'affordable housing' where they really wanted 'housing for all for nothing'. If Comrade Glorious Supreme Leader Obama follows the path we think he will, in about eight years, we'll see a swath of destruction wider than any other in history. It could just be too late.

I wish nothing for Obama.

I wish our country success. Politicians, pundits, elitists and celebrities are a drain on our nation. We will ignore their advice and examples, and prosper again, in spite of them.

 

No representation, without taxation!

My only hope is that the country can recover from it...

Sigh!

The Inauguaration of Ryan Leaf II

Let's call this what it is, "The Inauguration of Ryan Leaf II".

Reality is the good friend of the strong and perception is the cruel master of the weak.

Next Please!

I could see him in a press conference...

"DON'T TALK TO ME, aliright!!!" KNOCK IT OFF!..." lighting up a cig as he walks off...

2010: A GOP Hill

I LIKE your tag line, AA!!! A LOT!!!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

I wish for him to have a

I wish for him to have a total turn-around in political philosophy and become a conservative/libertarian, free-market, small-government, peace-through-strength, pro-life, statesman...that's not too much to hope for, is it?

Sounds like a perfectly reasonable wish to me ;-)

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

I of course wish him

I of course wish him success, but only actual success.  I'm not too excited about the liklihood of the MSM and various historians calling failed policies successful due to their own political leanings.

Because 'hope' springs eternal

I would like to see the maniacally stupid messengers begin, just begin, understand that words alone are not the makings of a great man, never mind a president.

I'd also like to see them ask, "What exactly has he done?" "What makes him qualified?"

If I didn't have to work my schedule, to make the money that will be taxed, I'd go back to bed, hoping there was a different ending -

BUT, as a country, we made it through Carter and Clinton, I just 'hope' that there won't be too much to un-do.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

This is one of those times

This is one of those times where there is the greatest difference between us and the liberals.

 

On one hand, we hate every thing that Obama stands for, on the other we desirably love this great country, and want it to succeed. The liberals partially the moonbats, hate this country as well as Bush, so it does not bother them to see us all go down in flames, were as we are torn..

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

I would love to see this

I would love to see this kind of poll with someone like Huf Po around 2001. 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

That would have been interesting

Like him?  [@*&$%]

Don't like him? [$*&^%]

Wish him well?  [&$^%#]

The HufPo Poll would be a series of #*&@^ , &^#%$@, (&*#^%$, etc. Civility and honor escapes the loons on the left, being so long in the gutter, the climb out is unthinkable.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Like I have said many

Like I have said many times. I will give him the same repect that the MSM, Dems, and the looney left gave to George Bush. 

Ricky Joe the Plumber 

The Democrats want us to

The Democrats want us to “unite” behind the new President, just like they did this day back in 2001

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/President44/popup?id=6640072&contentIndex=1&page=14&start=false

 

No problem..

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

Yup,

That's all the respect he'll get from me. I just wish I didn't have to work so I could hang out at coffee shops all day waiting for the next protest. Ahhh, what a life THAT must be. ;>)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Wishes for B. Hussein...

Well, I don't wish him any harm, or any harm to his family!  Of course not!  Just because I think he's a raving Socialist freakshow doesn't mean I hate the guy.

 I do wish he would stop killing babies.  I do wish all his policies FAIL miserably, and he is kicked to the curb in 4 years.  I wish that the spirit of liberalism abandons him and finds a new puppet. 

But definitely, no bad wishes to him personally.  Unlike liberals, I can separate the person from the ideology.

Conservative to the end, baby.

No wishes..just prayer.

First things first...I pray for his salvation.

Within that I pray for:

  • a reduction not increase in abortion, let's "change" the way we look at human life. all human life
  • he doesn't do anything to put our country at risk, by reducing our military and softening our view on terrorism
  • he won't be the "santa claus" as some see him as they dance and sing about how he will pay their bills...with my money

 v

Why I want total failure

The Shahinshah is simply a man.  I want to type His name but I cannot bring myself to do it, because He decided to cultivate a personality cult.  He makes His decision, I make mine.

I want Him to totally fail (I know that I and my country remain strong not because of Him, or government, or the media, but because of the resourcefulness, the persistence, and the wherewithal of the American people; we have had bad leaders in the past and can withstand another), if only because the whole personality cult that surrounds Him is sickening.  I honestly could have gone the rest of my life without seeing Turkmenbashy (or other personality cults) rise here.  Only a total failure can show America and the world what He REALLY is: just a man who the Peter Principle has not ensnared.  Yet. 

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

"a man who the Peter Principle has not ensnared. Yet."

I agree on that and as I posted in the Open Thread...

I will refer to him as "the President".  Out of respect for the postion, because I am commanded to do that.

Other than that, I pray for the truth to be revealed, good or bad, on who he really is.  Not just who he and the DNC, the MSM, and Hollywood made him up to be.

v

My Wish for the Big O

I wish him one term.

I wish for him a solid majority, Republican, conservative Congress in 2010.

I do NOT wish him or our country harm. 

Where's the Alternative?

I am in a bit of a dilemma on this subject. In 1995, when the Republicans were given control of the legislature by conservative Americans, I was hopeful that America would finally get its house in order. But as time went on those same Republicans who were elected to curb the tide of government growth; who were given their responsibility by the conservatives of this country, started behaving like Democrats and got caught up in the trap of trying to buy our votes. Government and spending grew at least as fast as when Democrats were in charge, perhaps more.

History has shown that socialism does not work. Obama and his socialistic agenda will fail. It is a fundamental law of economics. Like the laws of thermodynamics, this law too is immutable. So he will fail. The question is, will anyone really notice? Will it be reported honestly? And more importantly, where is the alternative?

Those who populate and respond on this page

WILL notice, have noticed, and will continue. Not being caught in the adulation of the non-politician (non experienced) we have been asking where and how far will liberalism and stupidity take us - with respect on our side, we can fight the hordes of non-thinkers.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

You have to be kidding me?

26% voted for great success, this country needs it  ??????

I guess that explains why an illegal-alien is about to become President of the United States.  

 

 

Isaiah 5:20a Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil. . .  KJV

Like most polls...

..this one isn't asking right questions.  Answering with success and failure is much too broad.  I wish him Great success in being father and spouse.  Certainly I wish him succes in protecting the nation... But I don't want the recession to end with a socialist government in control.

I certainly don't wish him to be a total failure.  That's a job for the Democrat Party. And neither do I wish him to accomplish nothing in particular.

This is a bad pole not worthy of NewsBusters. 

David

Save me from the Good People

 

Wishes

I wish the media would treat him the same way they treated GWB. But alas I know this will not happen and I doubt BHO could take it.

I am still hoping a Kenyan birth certificate turns up...

...with the name Barrack Hussein Obama on it.

There is still 56 minutes before PEBO becomes Comrade Dear Leader.

-Dave

“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -While there is still time.

More WTF from the Bull pulpit.

Monday I heard a business "expert", refering to the economy, say that Obama will "inspire" us to do what it is that needs to be done to get us out of the mess we're in. Will that be an inspirational stragtegy or inspirational tactics?

I think a lot of folks will be seeking comfort in the 23rd Psalm.

Failure, but just enough to learn a lesson.

I want Obama to fail just enough in certain areas that he realizes that what sounded good in theory didn't work so well in reality. Like when Nebraska passed that law that allowed anyone to abandon a child at a hospital without any fear of prosecution. They learned quickly just how very, very, very bad that idea was.

Total Failure - Obama the Socialist Destroyer

Socialism will fail as it always does, the only thing I do not know is how long it will take for people to reject it. Obama = Total Failure.

Arrogant Conceit: Obama Thinks He Can Reform The Economy (John Stossel, ABC News)
Economic Illiteracy Is Not the Change We Need (Art Carden, Ph.D. Professor of Economics)
The Fallacy of 'Green Jobs' (John Stossel, ABC News)
The Fallacy That Government Creates Jobs (Daniel J. Mitchell, Ph.D. Economics)

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

PT, I agree

You are exactly right, and if anyone really listened to his speech, the transcript is on Drudge, your links are exactly on point. He NEVER mentioned anything about drilling here, or about anything nuclear. He only mentioned green jobs, and even global warming, he made very naive comments about how he would fix the economy, he made it all about Big Government. I advise everyone to reread this speech many times, and take it line by line. I will assume, since he supposedly wrote this onver 2 days by himself, these are his true beliefs. The speech was not special, I doubt tomorrow anyone will remember a single line. He went from sounding like Reagan to a socialist. He was extremely disrespectful to Bush, and I was totally disgusted.

 

 

Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

Amen

Amen

I've been saying for weeks now

that he needs to just get by. We need him to be a mediocre president. Not great enough to be voted to a second term and not bad enough to run our wonderful country into the ground.

You're missing an option

Repentence, and actions in keeping with it.

Obama is not a victory for human equality in this country.  He is little different from the slave owning people of the past.  Slaves were property and subject to the life and death decisions of their owners.  He feels exactly the same way about his perception of an underclass--the unborns.  So long as this president continues to believe that one person has the right to claim life and death ownership over another, there is no true human equality.  It is a farce.

I don't hope he succeeds.  His aims are not good or worthy. I don't hope he is a failure.  I hope he repents.

as much as i distrust the guy ...

i opted for "great success because the country needs it" because steering the country to socialism will be a complete failure ... once a socialist agenda has been made into law, it will be here to stay and i'm not willing to put up with that in order to get the GOP back on track ... IMHO, a successful obama presidency will be one that causes friction within the democrat party, meaning he will not be the pathetic liberal we all expect him to be.

 

... on the other hand, i fully hope he is brutally savaged as much, if not worse than W ... he needs to be knocked off this fantasy cloud he's on ... quickly

Lets be adults here...

I know alot of people aren't crazy about Barry, but if anyone here chose anything other than the top two choices, success because he deserves it, or success because we need it, then they are no better than the libs who will burn any good idea to the ground if it isn't from their own mouths.

 

We've seemingly forgotten we are a nation united and have become, or are becoming, a nation of rabid partisan fans, wishing ill on the 'other side' at any cost; so long as our side wins in the end.

 

This my friends, is what will lead to the demise of the USA.  We seriously on the right side need to stop *also* pointing fingers and just coming up with solutions and working *with* democrats in order to stabalize the economy and country itself.  Anyone who is willing to listen about the rediculousness of some liberals are already on board, so by dragging our feet to prove a point in many cases, we are simply doing so in vain; there will always be your typical lib bias but if we work toward solutions instead of wishing ill because our guy didn't win, not only will it help the nation in the end, but we will look like, well, adults.

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Ashlee

I chose that I do not want him to succeed because I do not want socialist policies to succeed in my country.  I love my country too much to see it go down that path.

We've tried working with the libs many, many, many times and all we get is slapped in the face.  Why keep trying?  We need to get back to our conservative roots because that is what succeeds each and every time.  We don't need to become more and more like Dems.

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

"Lets be adults here"...Ashlee

Thank you for telling us how to be adults.

Silly me, if socialism succeeds, who am I to knock success.

Keep us posted on our next "how to be an adult" lesson.

v

She got upset with me in

She got upset with me in another thread when I called here arguments sophomoric.

Her post above is case in point.

The majority of NB'ers wish nothing but the best for the country, but have a difficult time seeing it through Obama.

My wish was for success for our new President, because success for him usually means success for the country. However, I see your and agree with your point.

 

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

Upset? You are a funny one...

Like it or not my friend, as they say, the proof is in the pudding.  While many here love the group think, mob mentality and wouldn't call you out on any flaw for fear of breaking the solidarity code, but there are *many* *many* *many* free-thinking conservatives and libertarians who visit this place can view that thread and see it for what it was.  While many people did engage in rather civil, yet deep debate over an issue, you came in with insult and nothing more than a 'ditto' to points that were previously presented.  Not only was that unnecessary, but you assumed of my education level as well as character, and then turn to call out others for the same.  Point being, it was very obvious to the general viewer that while they may disagree with my views on the issue, that you took a perfectly good and relatively civil debate, and marred it with insult because, well heck, I couldn't tell you, perhaps someone gave you decaf instead?  Someone take your lunch from the fridge at the office?  Who knows.  Either way, the only thing sophmoric then, and now with this unecessary reference to a previous post which only paints you in a bad light, is your demeanor.

 

You my friend are no better than the friend with hand outstreched in peace with a knife hiding behind your back with the other hand.  I think the term was 'do as I say, not as I do...'  Wow.....perhaps you *do* have a future with the libs.  While your ideology may be polar opposites, it seems the means to your end is no different.

 

 

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

It's common place for

It's common place for others to share their opinions of post/posters on NB.

V was simply telling you, not to tell him, how to act like an adult. I only was sharing with him I had a similar situation with you and your "all inclusiveness" mentality.

As for: "While many people did engage in rather civil, yet deep debate over an issue, you came in with insult and nothing more than a 'ditto' to points that were previously presented.  Not only was that unnecessary, but you assumed of my education level as well as character, and then turn to call out others for the same."

First, and again, people tell each other they agree with disposition all the time here on NB.

I have not assumed anything to your education or character. I only have what you post on here to come to a conclusion. I don't know you from Eve, but my conclusion is you are not as eloquant and wise as you think you are. Alas, making your windbag posts (read arguments)--sophomoric.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

Fair enough.

And you are free to such assumption, but again, I don't see where at all I claimed anything that was citing fact unless I presented it in quite a clear way along with examples and supporting facts to support, not *prove,* my points.  As for the previous exchange, you see the bible as something immovable and standard.  I respect that.  I came with the position then, that if that is how you choose to live, you must be aware that you cannot cut corners.  That indeed, the bible, even the new testament, brings forth 'moral codes' that society has in some cases forsaken under the position that such a 'law' benefits no one and only hinders others.  Again, that is merely an opinion issue, and that's not what my debate was.

 

My point was this, you want to be extremely literal with the bible, go for it.  However, you cannot say 'this is how it is,' citing a passage from the book, yet ignoring any that may conflict with the comfortable life you own.  As I said, its in my personal opinion, and many other biblical scholars, that the bible, in its rawest form, is quite cryptic, and still yet to be determined as to whether it was meant to be taken as literal decree, or as a more 'loose' collection of parabols that still promotes high moral integrity.

You then came in and called my argument sophmoric, simply because I didn't cite the whole book and have written consent from God that he indeed thinks you're a tad uptight.  I dont and wont be able to attain that, so I did the best thing I could, tried to explain it was my *opinion* just as how your view is only your *opinion.*  Short of either of us hearing from the big guy himself, that's all we really have to go on.  I'm respectful of that and of those who feel I may be going to hell because I defend homosexuals or find nothing inheirently wrong with it.  You, however, seem to think any dissenting opinion is evidence of ignorance.  I  could say such thoughts speak the same about you as well, but, as I do not know you, I'll stick to what I have seen so far, someone who does not like differing opinions.

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Most of that rant is for

Most of that rant is for the other thread, but addressing points relevant to your sophomoric arguments. There is only a few.

...I presented it in quite a clear way along with examples and supporting facts to support, not *prove,* my points...

What in the world? You want to support but not prove? C'mon everyone gather 'round. That's right circle up. Ready? One, two, three....KUMBAYA my Lord...

You then came in and called my argument sophmoric, simply because I didn't cite the whole book and have written consent from God that he indeed thinks you're a tad uptight

Wrong again. I called your arguments sophomoric because you present them as some great revelation, yet do not understand (as you said above) basic Biblical concepts. Your positions showed that, and contiue to spill over in other threads.

You, however, seem to think any dissenting opinion is evidence of ignorance.  I  could say such thoughts speak the same about you as well, but, as I do not know you, I'll stick to what I have seen so far, someone who does not like differing opinions.

No, Idon't mind differing opinions. I also don't think dissenting opinions are evidence of ignorance, if supported well.

But I do think that poor arguments show evidence of ignorance, somewhat.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

Your statement that they

Your statement that they are ill supported points, along with your claim that I am ignorant to basic biblical concepts (never did I state I was) is also merely your *opinion.*  My annoyance with you, aside with your desire to take everything to a personal level, is that while I go to great lengths to specify when a view is of my own *opinion,* you seem to try and pass your opinions off as gospel.  Sorry, that isn't how it works.

 

As for the proof point, I was stating that it is quite difficult to *prove* an opinion as fact.  I admit I have not done so in a way to claim my opinion is the only answer, but neither has your opinion held such weight either.  This is why making it personal muddies the water and ends up with one person desiring a pi$$ing contest while the other usually rolls their eyes and gives up.  I'll let you guess which is which, but my pants are firmly zipped.  Enjoy your contest.

*rolls eyes*

I'm done.  When you want to actually debate and not get personal, let me know.  Until then, enjoy your lil contest. 

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

I am not sure how I have

I am not sure how I have made it personal. I have made every attempt to address the argument and not the person.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

You have taken it to a

You have taken it to a personal level by claiming that, since we have differing opinions over a much heated and debated issue, you assume I am biblically uneducated.  A difference in opinion does not equate to 'ignorance.'  Aside from that obvious case, there are other things that have been said that makes it apparent you have more than debate of the issue invested in this, but I've lost interest in defending myself to a self-appointed critic of opinion who will only allow those whom are in agreeance with their own opinions.

 

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Unsane has you pegged. You

Unsane has you pegged. You have problems with people standing up and defending for what they believe. I know I have a MAJOR difference of opinion with him on this same issue, and I do not find him ignorant.

I said you don't understand basic Biblical concepts, and I think that based on your posts. I also wasn't the only one to notice. Even by your own admission, you said your self that the "bible is ryptic...".

No one on here thinks "A difference in opinion does not equate to 'ignorance. But your ability to argue and defend it does. You have done a sub par job.

I don't have anything more in this than the normal banter on a blog site. Also, for getting tired of defending yourself, you seem to press on.

You need the kleenex and maybe even a cut man. Grow some thicker skin and stand your ground. You seem to beleive in your positions as passionately as anyone else.

See you around.

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

Lesson 2

 Don't waste your time with lil jabs like this one.  In the time it takes to do that, which brings nothing to the table but the evidence that you apparently are easily riled up, you could have made a sandwhich for the kids, read a chapter of a book, or written Obama a letter showing him that our country does indeed want a more libertarian approach to governing with a stronger emphasis on personal responisibility and less on subsidizing any and all problems in the hopes that throwing money at problems makes them go away (we all know by now after Clinton that this is very untrue.)

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Lesson 3...

...from pupil to teacher:

Don't assume (ass u me).  I don't regard responding to you as a waste of time, not yet anyway. You assumed I am wasting my time, not feeding my kids, not reading, or not developing a right response to the incoming socialist regime.

You are wrong on all accounts.  Maybe you wasted your time scrolling back to yesterday's blog's, looking to redeem yourself?

btw: I see you are very "busy" this morning responding to every one of the responses to you in this blog.  Have you made breakfast for your kids yet?  Read a book?  Written to the President?  Researched the meaning of the word hypocrite? ...

...making sure you get in the last word?

the last word is not the issue...

The issue is that no one benefits from the president, democrat OR Republican, from failing.  I have already stated in a response to maximus that his point was exactly my own, only better presented.  I'll admit, my tone is a tad annoyed because I cant help but feel like my party is a sack of sick, sore, hypocritical losers.  We told the Gore cult to go jump off a cliff when it came in Bush won.  Now that our guy didn't, we assume the same defensive and divisive position we accuse the left of taking.  This is not an issue of us versus them, its an issue of ideology vs real life application.  Of course socialism isn't going to save us, its only going to ruin us.  Therefore, if I hoped for his success, how could that lead to me claiming we should usher in the next socialist nation of the world?!  That would mean I ultimately want failure.

 

I've said it time and time again, capitalism with no checks and balances is dangerous, but still much more desireable than socialism.  The last thing I want is a nation who is more like a babysitter rather than something there simply to ensure my nation's defense is top notch and my roads are paved.  I believe a libertarian approach to the whole situation is going to solve the problem not only eventually, but much quicker than this bailout nonsense.  Will people suffer?  Yes, of course, they are suffering now.  The issue?  Those accountable get off.  The tax payers are essentially paying the bill that the people who incurred it, left for us.  Sure it'd be a tumtulous time for a few years if we let certain banks or companies fail.  However, if you don't let your child ever fall, or fail, how can they ever know what to avoid and what not to do?  You bail out these jerks, and in 10 years, the same shady things will occur, just watch.  Sometimes you DO need to stick it to people, no matter how much your heart may bleed for them, if only to ensure they don't screw up again.

 

Essentially, what I had said was, we should *want* him to succeed in the sense that he improves the situation our nation, and the world is currently in.  If it means for a time we need to deal with more liberal policies than usual, as long as it would ultimately benefit our nation and our people, yet did not infringe on our freedoms, I see no reason to kick and scream at it.  Afterall, I don't detest socialism because its socialism, I detest it because, so far, in every attempted application, it has been neither fair nor beneficial.   

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

double post

double post

I've said it time and time

I've said it time and time again, capitalism with no checks and balances is dangerous

Really?  And you consider your approach libetarian?  As I understand libertarianism (and I consider myself to possess libertarian sympathies), pure capitalism is checks and balances.  In other words, the market will naturally regulate behavior.  Inefficient operations that fail to adequately provide for the customers they serve will lose out to efficient operations that do provide for those customers.  It's a form of natural selection, survival of the fittest.  Why would a libertarian call for unnatural regulation by government?  Sounds very McCainist to me.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

fitzfong.blogspot.com

Essentially, you are correct...

You are certainly not wrong when you say that, *ideally,* it is the libertarian belief that pure capitalism is the way and the market will regulate itself.  I was totally in agreeance....till I heard of the bailout, how my tax dollars are going to cover some greedy SOB who didn't stop their illegal and otherwise ethically questionable practices because of some epiphany, but because they had quite literally driven the wheels right off the damn machine.

So what?  let it fix itself.  I agree.  However, what does our government do?  Bail them out.  I can certainly understand this is perhaps a necessary step we need to just 'take on the chin.'  I'm ok with that too.  What I'm not ok with?  Golden parachutes for CEOs who knowingly screwed with the books, hid and redistributed assets to better suit their own means, and offering loans to people who couldn't be trusted to hold on to a nickle, let alone pay it back in interest years later.  This is what I mean 'checks and balances.'  Now its no secret that McCain was not my favorite choice, quite possibly my least next to Huckabee.  However, while I am in agreeance with you, the system as it is, is still flawed.  Dirty, rotten, selfish men (and women I'm sure) are still walking free, even after being so ethically dishonest in their business practices.  Where is the balance?!

Ideally, the balance is when their company tanks, and a new, better functioning and ambitious company fills the vaccum.  Does this occur?  Of course not.  These CEOs may need to lay low for a few years before they become 'hireable' again, but certainly that 2.3 million severance will tide you over for the time being.  Then, once the clouds are past, and the market nearing stability, companies will either seek out the formerly displaced CEO's (citing 'experience' as their main interest in hiring them) or simply replace them with the next generation of slimy used cars salesmen groomed to become the head of a company. 

You can buy a fancy suit and haircut, you can even buy the nice luxury car and flat in New York with its own personal garage, but its like Sarah Palin said...

You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still essentially a pig.

All these CEOs and others whom are part to blame for our situation are no better than the criminal on the street looking for purses to snatch.  The other aspect is the irresponsible individuals who took on debt, fully aware they had no way out of such, but I'll digress right there as I can go on AGES about those people.

 

Essentially though, I do think *ideal* straight capitalism is the key.  Sadly, that is not what we have in place, yet I still hear so many people acting and talking as if we do.  Here's to hoping we get back to the roots and usher in an era of more transparency and honesty within the market as she rebounds. 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Ashlee, For someone who

Ashlee,

For someone who has libertarian sympathies, you seem to be heavily focused on CEO pay and "golden parachutes"...more populist than libertarian.  I have to reiterate that as I understand libertarianism, the market will regulate CEO pay.  If a CEO generates enough revenue to secure a large bonus, he or she is entitled to said bonus because he/she has a contractual agreement and his/her efforts have benefitted the shareholders to the extent that the bonus is owed to him/her.  If the CEO fails in his/her duties to the shareholders, he/she is not entitled to the bonus and the shareholders will not stand for him/her taking one.  Ultimately, if the CEO's pay is disproptionate to the profit generated, the stock price is devalued...meaning shareholders are inclined to regulate CEO pay themselves.  The CEO is going to be accountable to the shareholders, whose vigilance to the share price will regulate CEO pay.  To the extent that you have a few rogue CEOs who cook the books and steal from the shareholders, there are remedies, both criminal and civil, in the law.  And if shareholders lose money because they can't recover through civil law, that's simply part of the risk of investment...there's no guarantee of return and some people lose money.  That said, the public is alerted to criminal activities of CEOs, meaning that going forward, investors are going to be much more watchful of the corporation's standards and practices before committing their funds...once again, the market regulates CEO activity. 

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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Good evening Ashlee

I did not vote because I don't know who he is, what he is, what he intends to do, what he intends to change, or where he intends to lead America. He has changed his intentions so many times, I can't keep up. When I find out what he is up to I will decide whether I want him to succeed or fail.

Jesus Loves You

True! We don't know...

which Barry will show up.  I did not vote either for the exact same reason. If it is something good (and moral) for the country then great.  If it is going to socialism, taking guns/other rights away, killing the unborn or old, then no.  I hope he learns a lot and changes to become a strong conservative.   Many of us were more liberal from college & TV influence and then wise up later. May God himself guide him to do right and wise things. 

M-B

This is exactly what I meant...

This is what I'm refering to.  I was never implying that to hope he succeeds is involving a future of socialist politik and government subsidized existence.  I was implying, perhaps too vaguely, that by hoping he 'succeeds' I was hoping just that.  Socialist policies do not 'succeed.'  You cannot, as I've said before, subsidize a problem and expect it to do anything but get bigger.  If he were to truely 'succeed,' he would need to reach across the political aisle in a way no other president has done in the past (I believe this is where his celebrity status can be used for something positive and *other* than stupid gossip rag softball interviews) and he would also need to adopt a more libertarian fiscal policy where we are holding those who are owners of this financial problem, accountable.  I know we're not off too a great start with this push to release more bailout funds to be disbursed, but Bush did at one point hold the highest presidential approval rating of all time at one point; so we have seen how much a person can change and how quick the political climate can as well in as short a period as 4 years truely is.

Cheers to you Barak Obama on your monumentous event.  Now, don't let us down and snap your party out of its trance and distance yourself as quickly as possible from the poisons on the left (ie Harry Reid, Nancy Peluosi, etc.)

 

Thanks Maximus for pretty much summing up what I had intended to say but failed to do so. 

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Is this one of those

Is this one of those "nothing more than a 'ditto' to points that were previously presented" moments I was "repremanded for?

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?

Kleenex

 You keep looking for excuses to cry like this and you're gonna need to make a grocery store run for some more.  Don't make this personal, it just doesn't speak well of your own character.  We disagree; go to the lumber yard, buy some wood, build a bridge, and get over it.  If you go back, I never accused you of anything you *didn't* actually do, and never made it about anything personal until you did.

 

Don't throw food in the food fight if you want to keep your shirt clean. :) 

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

Ashlee

With all respect for your desire for peace and positive solutions...

I have listened to the things this President has declared he will do when in the company of liberals.  I have listened to his statements about the holocaust now in progress on our own soil--they are a burden that his daughters should not have to bear.  Watching congress, I have been appraised by its actions and reactions that to meet Democrats/liberals/moderate Republicans in the middle is to reject the policies that have given this country strength and allowed goodness to grow and triumph within it.  The church he sat in for 20 years espouses the same style of views that is currently ripping apart the African continent with horrors that we only see on the silver screen.  Yes, that's the end point of the sort of tribal mentality his church has espoused.  Can I support his success when he wants to pass FOCA http://www.fightfoca... ?  Can I support his success when he obviously lacks opposition to the tribal mentality and the deepening of racial lines?  In my family, there are mixed marriages.  We are hermits who despise those unlike ourselves or seek to hold them down or make them pay for something they had no hand in.  Can I support his success when he wants to equalize society through socialist policies--which have always, always led to oppression and a fearful and helpless populace?  

I hunger and thirst for righteousness.  I love mercy.  I am willing that our nation should collapse under his policies quickly rather than slowly, so that we can rise again in freedom and true hope.  I am not hoping for the success of his policies so that we can slowly continue the degradation of our society until no one can recognize a bastion of freedom and hope in the world.  We're it, you see.  We're the last place available.  And we are losing this battle.  Better that he should fall flat on his policies, better that we should suffer a great depression, better that disease and starvation and brutality should wake the remembrance in us that "all men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights," better that than that we should peaceable diminish into a nation where rights are determined by who is in power because no god has created and no rights are endowed by a non-entity.  

Does that mean I will seek to undermine the success of our nation?  No.  I will continue to do my best for my family and community.  I will continue to support what is right.  I will regard President Obama with the respect due his position.  I will follow all laws that do not set me against My Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.  I will legally oppose those policies which the new president will support that will damage our country.  I'm not saying I look forward to collapse.  But having a bone reset, even if it means rebreaking it, is better than having it heal in a way that makes the limb useless.  So, God-willing, we will have our bone reset, that we may walk uprightly before Him.

Sorry this is so long.

Amen and AMEN

Perfect.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Thanks

I love your tagline--I wish I'd thought of it!  Did you come up with it?  It should be on bumper stickers.

Yes, thank you

A choselife3x original. Feel free to use it. I think it should be painted on the doors of abortion offices.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

"Sorry this is so long." ...maybe, but perfect...

 I am willing that our nation should collapse under his policies quickly rather than slowly, so that we can rise again in freedom and true hope.

Had not thought of it that way, but I believe you are right,

I have listened to his statements about the holocaust now in progress on our own soil

Maybe this alone will cause God to strike and awaken us to real repentance.

I will follow all laws that do not set me against My Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.  I will legally oppose those policies which the new president will support that will damage our country.

Amen to that.

Thank you for your insights.

v

→ Better yet vrwc13

We could mope around like Jonah after God spares Nineveh.

I'd rather see him wake up before the plane crashes.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

Cool A...

Maybe we should start a prayer movement to ask God to reveal Himself to the President like He did to Saul.

Our very own Road to Damascus event.

Then the President would "see the light" and pass anti-abortion laws!

v

→ Already started vrwc13

If he ever put his ear up to Michelle's belly when she was with child, he knows the truth.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

Cool A...maybe...

the news said they are looking for a church in DC...maybe they will join one that teaches the Bible!

v

→ It's possible

But that alone would take a miracle.  After all, it is DC.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

Ashlee, Miss Wishy-Washy

We've seemingly forgotten we are a nation united and have become, or are becoming, a nation of rabid partisan fans, wishing ill on the 'other side' at any cost; so long as our side wins in the end.  This my friends, is what will lead to the demise of the USA.  Sorry, Ashlee.  Being wishy-washy as you so ache for us to do has never gotten anyone...anywhere.  Being wishy-washy can certainly lead to the demise of the USA. 

I'm not going to just become a good little Socialist just because one enters office in the name of "unity".  Where was the unity when Bush took office eight years ago?  I don't remember hearing too many calls for "unity" then...

 there will always be your typical lib bias but if we work toward solutions instead of wishing ill because our guy didn't win, not only will it help the nation in the end, but we will look like, well, adults.  And we'll ALL be good little Socialist adults together, right, Ashlee?  Againg, I am not going to just sit adly by and watch this country turn into a Socialist Nanny State just because you want us to all be wishy-washy like you are. 

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

Unsane...seems to me like

Unsane...seems to me like "unity" was also a word used by Stalin. The unity he brought was in the grave yards.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

hahaha

Seriously Unsane, I take you as seriously as a giant takes a fly.  You are an occasional nuisance who likes to incessently attack people's opinions as if yours is gospel, yet, in the end, much like the fly, the only one who cares or even listens to you is yourself.  The rest just swat you away when you're particularly annoying, otherwise, move on with their day.

I hate to be so blunt but I've read your past posts.  I don't think I've ever read posts that would actually make the devil say 'good LORD, what a jerk!'

 

 

The people should not fear their Government,

The Government should fear the people. 

For The Great Ashlee

Seriously Unsane, I take you as seriously as a giant takes a fly.  Seriously, Ashlee, if you truly did, you wouldn't have responded to me.  So I am honored you take the time to respond with this great whine.  It only proves that I have gotten under your skin.

You are an occasional nuisance who likes to incessently attack people's opinions as if yours is gospel, because, unlike you, Ashlee, I am not wishy-washy.  I have a core of principles and will defend them until the end. How must it feel to lack vertebrae? yet, in the end, much like the fly, the only one who cares or ven listens to you is yourself.  Sweetie, go read what I have posted on my profile.  Whether or not anyone cares or not is not on my list of priorities.  I'm not running for office.  I'm not out to impress anyone really.  I just have spent lots of money on electronics and don't want them destroyed.  The End. 

Again, you contradict yourself.  You say I am the only one who cares, yet I riled you up sufficiently to care about what I posted, and you responded. 

The rest just swat you away when you're particularly annoying, otherwise, move on with their day.  Really?  Again, consult my profile and read the part about how long I have been here.  I'll help you: since March 2006.  If I were as annoying as you state, I suppose I would have been drummed out of here long ago.  But yet, here I am still, confounding Leftists and irritating the wishy-washy like yourself.  Why is that? 

I hate to be so blunt but I've read your past posts.  I don't think I've ever read posts that would actually make the devil say 'good LORD, what a jerk!'  Why, thank you, sweetie.  I really would love to go on a date with you sometime.  Please be sure to wear a skirt if you do.  :-)  Your reaction is typical of the linguine-spined.  You should read them more, for as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman says "YOU WILL NOT LIKE ME!  BUT THE MORE YOU WILL HATE ME THE MORE YOU WILL LEARN!!!" 

It's also kind of funny how you imply I am a jerk when you write with such sneering condescension, implying that you are infinitely better than the rest of us poor schmucks at NB because, Good Holy Shahinshah, we actually have disagreements about how the government should be run!  Why, YOU, on the other hand, the glorious, exalted adult that you are, are so much more enlightened and better than to actually have opinions and engage in the exchange of ideas and opinions!!!

See ya, sweetie, as I got lots to do.  By the way: I have read your past posts and I don't think I can remember anyone here in my three years here using so many words to in the end say so damn little. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME...IT'S LAID TO REST WITHOUT REGRET!  ALL HAIL THE NEW INCOMPETENCE!!!" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

The hopeful, patriotic side

The hopeful, patriotic side of me wants him to succeed.  The rational side of me realizes that the policies he embraces will fail.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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God Bless and Protect the Republic

I wish the nation safety and prosperity.  However, I cannot do the same for the Socialist in Chief.  I believe that history has shown that the road that he wants to take us down is the way to destruction.  Keep your powder dry. You are going to need.

On a side note, I consider myself lucky to be among you.  Thank you for allowing me to post.

20 Jan 08:  The day the Republic died

Great tag line, T! Wish it wasn't so, but fear it will soon

be proven fact ;-( 

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Well, I think that for the

Well, I think that for the man that is supposed to cure all the woes of America today is off to a good start. He has made one speech, and the DOW is down at 332.13.

Way to go O-man. Did not take you long. With is speech on restoring America, he effectively told the world we will not agressively persue those who wish us harm. And if we do fall over one of them, we will ask them nicely about future plans. WalStreet is skiddish about such things. After all, most have not forgot 9/11. Seems Oman has a short memory.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

 I don't really wish for

 I don't really wish for failure, but I don't wish success for his policies. What I really wish for is that he'll have a great epiphany and make a huge sway to the right in his attitude and policies.

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon," 1942

Failure of BHO and his

Failure of BHO and his sycophants' Marxist policies don't spell failure for America...quite the contrary.

Actually, failure to do what is rational is what is going to hurt us.  But, since when does rationality supplant ideology with Communists?

The idea we have to support him for all our sakes is predicated upon the notion that he is in any way good for our country, thus failure on his part is failure for all of us.  Or, we could sit back, support him, and if he screws up and give him four more years?

The best thing he could do for us is to enjoy being president (like Clinton did) and don't touch anything.  Except for terrorists...which I'm convinced he'll not be able to handle like Bush anyway, so...

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Utter failure

I hope he fails at everything he does.I hope he puts it in drive as he tries to back out of the driveway. Sorry, but I wish no good will on this alien usurper. We are now in a Constitutional crisis.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, WILL we now be

able to see the sealed and locked up records of our president??? 

Why in this day and age of every conservative officeholder's sealed divorce records mysteriously becoming public, are we forbidden to see the important personal records of OUR PRESIDENT?????  I want to see his passport, I want to see his birth certificate, I want to see his college entrance papers, I want to see the courses he took and the grades he received! 

Why are 'WE, THE PEOPLE' - HIS EMPLOYER not allowed to see his records???

I seem to recall big deals being made about the college grades of Kerry vs Bush or Gore vs Bush - why do we know that McCain was just about last in his class and yet we know NOTHING about any records from colleges the current president attended? 

I guess what I'd really like to know is whether my concerns are legitimate.  I've always been told to tell the truth - that way you have nothing to hide and you don't run into problems ever.  Therefore, I have a basic suspicion of someone so intent on hiding information that others have released.

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

if wishes were horses then beggars would ride

For Obama, success, but for America... survival.

We are 100% closer to conventional war with Russia than the average American realizes. We won't use nukes first, and they won't use nukes on their own soil. I believe within the next 4 years we will see the restructurng of the former Soviet Union. I saw the tanks roll through Prague once, that was enough. N.Korea has admitted it has weapons grade plutonium. If they have it, so will Iran, and they are not afraid to use it. Saddam Hussein gambled that Bush would not intervene (political suicide) and invaded Kuwait. After being defeated, but not removed he was emboldened to develop the weapons which DO exist and were moved into Syria before the 2nd Gulf war.

Obama/Hillary have ZERO clout overseas. They are seen as weak whiners who value their political future more than American safety or security of democratic nations abroad. Obama will NOT follow through on the increase of troops he promised to Afghanistan, Hamas is NOT going to stop fighting Israel and the nightmare scenario of every unfriendly nation acting in domino effect becomes very real. Pakistan/India N.Korea/South Korea USSR(II) moving through Eastern Europe Iran and friends attacking Israel, and what will the US Military do?? Under the command of Obama, nothing. Major chunks of the planet will be redefined in short order. Now....  THAT is what I call change.

A New Wish for Mr. Obama

So, here's the deal:

There is now a super-liberal President in office. This is fact. It cannot be changed.
I am not a liberal. I am a Conservative. Mr. Obama and I are
ideologically at-odds on many, many issues. The America I believe in
will not see the light of day under this man's administration.
Conservatives and Christians alike will be put to the test, being
publiclly mocked and ridiculed for having the beliefs we have in the
face of liberalism. Conservatives and Christians are now, definitely,
the minority.

However, he is the President, and the Bible I believe in tells me to
pray for those in authority over me, period. The Scriptures give no
direction other than that, even if this authority above you isn't Godly.
Mr. Obama endorses the killing of the unborn. He endorses
homosexuality. He has a sketchy background when it comes to
Christianity, and regardless of what the media says, Mr. Obama is not
ignorant to the teachings of Islam.

I shall pray for the man, Barack H. Obama, and his family. I shall pray
the Lord my God grants him wisdom during these trying times. I shall
pray that the Holy Spirit ministers to him despite the fact he has
policies and ideologies that go against the very Word of God. I shall
pray for his very salvation and the salvation of his family.

A long time ago, someone prayed for me, saying, "Lord, if You can save
THIS guy, You can save anyone!" At the time, I hated that "thorn-headed
bastard from Nazareth" because it pleased me to do so. But Jesus
revealed Himself to me in a real way, and I knew I had been an ignorant
fool. It started with a prayer from an absolute stranger. And here it
is, over 20 years later, and Jesus is still my King, Master and Savior.
Oh, and that absolute stranger I mentioned earlier? He is one of my
truly historical relationships even to this day. I mention all this
because.....

...I do believe in miracles. I do believe the Lord changes the lives of
men and women every day, regardless of station or position, and
regardless of hateful words spoken only to rile up His followers. At
the end of the day, Mr. Obama is just another lost person, blinded by
sin, and the puppet of the cruelest of task masters.

I refuse to hate this man. I refuse to make it personal. I refuse to
act like the enemies of my King and God. I refuse to say anything more
than, "Father, forgive them. They know not what they do." The man who
first said these words, the One who shook the very foundations of His
creation, said them as He was being crucified. Yes, there is a liberal
in office. Yes, I hate it. But if my God and King can forgive even
those who nailed Him to a cross, how could I not ask the same for my
President?

Thank you for reading, and may Jesus bless America.

 

"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."   Me.

Thank you, dborsch

I shall endeavour to do the same. (be danged if it don't go against the grain, though)

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Indeed, indeed...

 I hear ya, choselife3x. 

Liberal puppets may read that post and assume we are weak and impotent, as we do not want to willingly vilify Mr. Obama and make this a personal quest for vengeance.  They may assume we are simpletons who will let others spit in our faces and not strike back.  And they will assume this because we are Christians.  So be it.  I will take no pleasure in knowing that anyone who rejects Jesus has a terrible fate awaiting them. 

Jesus never said this was going to be easy, did He?  People think we are Christians because we need a crutch.  Ha!  It is a difficult thing to do, at times, changing our natural impulses to please our Father.  But I would rather be a Father-pleaser, even when it calls for me to lay down on the inside, than a raging, angry, child who stomps his feet and screams NOnononononono.  I'll leave that kinda attitude to the liberal puppets.

 

"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."                                                                             Me.

What it takes to be a Democrat

To become a democrat one must first have a labotomy