Should Right Take More Active Role in Monitoring Religious Left?

Yes, the media won't do it
83% (1446 votes)
No
13% (234 votes)
Unsure
3% (58 votes)
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No

Unless something is found to be dangerously diversive to our nations security, NO ONE should be monitoring ANYONE ELSE"S religion.

In so much as horrible racism being preached from the pulpit by Mr. Wright, preaching racism is not against the law. It is what it is and we, THE AMERICAN PUBLIC must make the dems and the liberals and the religious racists pay the price for their racism at the polls.

We must not be trapped into allowing this bunch to monitor true Christianity, in its purest form, because we are alarmed by their rhetoric and allow the government to step into religious monitoring.

This is what would happen if we are not careful and we allow ourselves to over-react. We are doing just fine by dealing with this with our Conservative media outlets.

the religious right is always under scrutiny

and the end times will not be pleasant will they? 

but no matter what happens, Christ always wins

I disagree cvg

If it were monitoring the moonbats for the sake of eavesdropping itself, I would agree.  But their whole indoctrinational stance tends to threaten our very security.  They can bow down to sticks and worship ant poop if they want to, but I cross the, "leave 'em alone" line when their blather leaves my family's life in greater peril.

Plus, sometimes the drivel is better than a SNL skit.  Well alright, most times.

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln

You

You make very good points Wild Bill and I cannot say that I disagree with you. I am a deacon and a teacher in a very large church. I just feel that we need to excercize extreme caution that we do not, by default, give the liberals an excuse to regulate what is said in the churches. That option belongs to the Elders at the direction of the Bible and the Holy Spirit.

*confusion*

I don't know how this discussion morphed into worries about government censorship and liberal regulations. The question was about the Right paying closer attention to the religious Left.

My first instinct was that this meant we would moniter people in much the way Newsbusters monitors the media or Michelle Malkin moniters Democrats - just have a watchdog who pays attention and calls people out.

cvg

I agree with you. As evidenced by the present situation these things get exposed and dealt with.

Religious Wrong

We should definately keep monitoring. Did anyone notice that Bill Clinton visited Joel Osteen two weeks ago? He comes off as evangelical, but Joel Osteen is a theological lightweight when it comes to Christianity.

Religious Wrong

The Clintons try to visit everyone.  Last time Billy Graham was in NYC, they were sitting front row.  And Billy had the nerve to say in front of everyone gathered that he thought Hillary would make a good POTUS.

I think Joel Osteen knows the Bible but I think he tries not to be offensive.  Everytime I see him interviewed, he seems to dodge very basic theology questions on topics such as abortion and homosexuality.  I'm not sure that I completely agree with his approach, but it seems to be the "don't offend anyone" approach.

Joel Osteen

Joel is telegenic and pleasant.  He preaches the prosperity gospel.  I agree he tries not to offend.  Jesus didn't worry about that.  The Truth is the Truth and it does offend.  Joel's bottom line would be affected if he preached the Gospel.

"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."  Hillary Clinton, 6-28-04 San Francisco

agreed River

Osteen cares more about being popular than he does about telling people the truth.

If liberals really wanted to attack dangerous pastors, they would mention these prosperity preachers and these feel-good pastors who are destroying the church from the inside out. But since they don't show up on liberals' hate speech radar, they must not be dangerous.

So instead liberals go after "controversial" people like Pat Robertson. It's hilarious watching them try to police the church for us.

I voted yes

Something needs to be done about liberals who hide their flaming ideas behind a veil of religion.

..and use the churches when

..and use the churches when convenient for political gain...look at all the black churches the Clintoons have used over the years, the msm shows this events with glee...but if our side is in one all hell breaks loose...on top of that I worry very much and have for a long time the Muslim places of worship that some radicals use to plot against this country.

BTW...if as the likes of Brazile and Sharpton have been saying that the preachers in black churches preach the same America hating, racist hatred as Wright..then we should know IMHO. This is outrageous.

I say these people need to live elsewhere if they hate this country and us so much...they speak of this country with despicable disdain.

reply to Bigtimer

Right on, if Mr. Wright hates the US and loves Africa so much, I say lets chip in and buy him a ticket. And he can take his whole congregation with him including Obuma and bitch.

wright

please,  mitts church believed until a few days ago that nonwhite people in the world were evil and damned.  pat robertson and billy graham today believe that jews, catholics, buddists and muslims are going to hell........

 they, wright and you are the same, conservative frankenstein monsters made from american slavery.

wright

please,  mitts church believed until a few days ago that nonwhite people in the world were evil and damned.  pat robertson and billy graham today believe that jews, catholics, buddists and muslims are going to hell........

 they, wright and you are the same, conservative frankenstein monsters made from american slavery.

God's been on it for a few

God's been on it for a few thousand years now:)

His will be done

i voted yes

please,  mitts church believed until a few days ago that nonwhite people in the world were evil and damned.  pat robertson and billy graham today believe that jews, catholics, buddists and muslims are going to hell........

 they, wright and you are the same, conservative frankenstein monsters made from american slavery.

Scientology

I would bet that most Scientologists are liberals. Fortunately, they get plenty of exposure. They are not exposed for their politics, just their kookiness.

Religious Left

I think the government as a whole should be monitoring the religious left.  I don't understand how Obama and Hillary can push their politics in churches and nobody says anything about separation of church and state.  But Huckabee or Romney would have every word they said monitored.

Voted Unsure, because the question is a bit vague at the outset.

But no.  There are other; better alternatives. 

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07

Religious Left

My husband is a non-denominational pastor.  He was hired by 2 local UCC churches.  He left one in August and the other church left the UCC.  These are both small-town Iowa churches.  During the caucus we received regular calls from the local Obama rep about materials available to us to present his position.  He and I had an exchange once when he called to foist his presentation on us.  I told him we try not to mix politics with the church.  His response to me was "Well, you know Mr. Obama is UCC, right?"  I told him I was aware of that then he said:  "The state conference endorses this material."  I told him I would pass the info on to my husband.  My husband did not call him back.

The UCC is a very liberal denomination.  There are individual churches that practice a religion that looks nothing like Christianity.  People from more traditional churches have a hard time understanding how the UCC is set up.  They are affiliated with each other (and Congregational churches) but the denomination does not own the buildings or have any claim on the money each church receives.

If you haven't been to the UCC Truths website I highly recommend it.  Another organization that will help with information is Biblical Witness Fellowship.  Both of these are run by people within the UCC who are trying to work from within to help right the wrongs the UCC is trying to pass off as Christian theology.

Our church wasn't up for the fight so they left the UCC.  The other church chose the lies of the denomination over biblical truth so my husband moved on.  There is soooo much more going on here than people are aware of.  It definitely needs looked at, but not by the government.  Chuck Grassley is worried about televangelists but no one ever held a gun to my head to make me donate money to one.  The government is a different story.  As phony as some televangelists are I think Chuck is looking in the wrong direction.

"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."  Hillary Clinton, 6-28-04 San Francisco

Maybe it's just me, but

Maybe it's just me, but I've always thought "Religious Left" and "liberal Christian" are contradictions in terms.

 

Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields

»→ Asleep at the switch

I accept blame for much of this.  I visited a Black Church for a funeral, but that's about it.  It's my own fault for believing African Americans hear pretty much the same message weekly that I do.

Who knew (according to Eleanor Clift, Rev. Butts, and Donna Brazile), who knew of the uplifting message of hate being disseminated by these messengers of God?

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black church

please,  mitts church believed until a few days ago that nonwhite people in the world were evil and damned.  pat robertson and billy graham today believe that jews, catholics, buddists and muslims are going to hell........

 they, wright and you are the same, conservative frankenstein monsters made from american slavery.

For mormons being against

For mormons being against non-white people, they certainly dispatch a number of folks on missions to convert them.  I wonder why that would be?

Once again, more anti-mormon propaganda.....

 

Red/Yellow/Brown/Black or White; they are precious in His sight

...Jesus loves the little children of the world!

http://www.cyberhymn...

He is not prejudiced just this...

Jesus the Way to the Father
5Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"

6Jesus answered, "I AM the way and the truth and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except through ME. 7If you really knew ME, you would know[b] MY Father as well. From now on, you do know HIM and have seen HIM." John 14

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I've read the last page of the Bible. It's all going to turn out all right. - Billy Graham

Conservatives need to be more active in combating liberal lies

Whether it's religion or any other issue, the Democrats consistently lie knowing full well that the truth is on record. They don't care if they are called out for their lies because they know that too many voters watch talk shows and news broadcasts on the major networks which are liberal (some are rabidly liberal such as "The View") .

Religion has traditionally been off  limits (with a few notable exceptions). The Democrats have made religion an issue in this campaign. We need to respond to them on their own turf.

I chose "yes," but don't

I chose "yes," but don't confuse this with approval for "government monitoring." Monitor them the way that people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell were monitored: just report their statements. Make the public aware of what they are saying.

Nothing illegal or even wrong with that. Just get it out there, and let people decide for themselves what they think of it. Not a witch-hunt, just informational.

I wonder how many here chose "yes"

But, exactly-unlike you, WANTED obese government monitoring of speech in others' churches, while stupidly assuming their own church would be forever exempt? I chose "unsure" for that very reason, actually...
JMR

A corruption-story the TV media will-not cover.

Yes

My point exactly sarc.

Jesus Christ was monitored by the Pharisees on an hour by hour basis. It will happen again in it's own time without Christians giving it license.

If ALL churches followed God's command and met to #1, Glorify God and study His Word to enable us to bring others to know, accept, honor and worship him;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;and left the politics external to the chuch;;;;;;;;we would not even be having this discussion.

Confused

So, what's a radical mosque called -- Liberal or Conservative? The Libs would call it Conservative, I believe. If so, would the Libs (who always want to monitor the "Conservative" religion) want to monitor what goes on in a mosque? Or would racism be charged, forcing the Libs off this monitoring? Or would the libs simply proclaim "immigrant brotherhood" and excuse themselves that way?

I know, a little off-topic here, but curious nontheless.

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TnT

IMHO, the libs would call a radical mosque "conservative." They already consider "fundamentalist" (i.e., radical) Muslims to be the equivalent of "fundamentalist" Christians. And anything bad is "conservative" to libs, they're not going to own it.

But, since your radical Muslims and your radical leftists share a common hatred of the U.S., you are not going to see them doing anything to inhibit radical Islam in any way. They're the new "fellow travellers," maybe.

If this seems inconsistent, well, it's always a mistake to expect constancy from the left. Values and guidelines are always fluid for them, we've seen it to often not to notice.

While the left would be the first to condemn a Falwell for preaching that, for instance, homosexuality is a sin, they would suddenly re-discover their vaunted "separation of church and state" if someone (like a certain Mr. Wright, perhaps?) on their side were caught spreading true hate-speech in a mosque or any other liberal church. Can't condemn them, freedom of speech, etc, etc.

But again, I was proposing merely "shining the light of truth" on these wackos, not having the government step in.

Pat Robertson on Hugo Chavez:

Rev. Pat Robertson on Hugo Chavez:

"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we
exercise that ability,"

Who's watching this bag of nuts violate FCC rules?

»→ Biff

He supported Rudy Julie Yanni.

He's off my radar.

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Yes We Should Monitor Them

The reason why we should monitor them is for the same reason they monitor us.  As soon as some priest or pastor advocates from the pulpit that their flock vote for some conservative candidate, suppport a particular conservative position, or vote against some liberal initiative, they start screaming for the IRS to investigate that church and go after their non-profit status.  We need to apply this same tactic to the Left Liberal churches who get a pass for their activities.  Iam a firm believer in the Sauce for the Goose Principal.