The Right's Misfortunes, Who's to Blame?

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GOP top leaders, they've lost their ambition and conservatism
58% (2082 votes)
Conservative group leaders, they're resting on their laurels
2% (58 votes)
Both, they're keeping down others who want to modernize
18% (643 votes)
Political consultants, they're wasting $ and giving little in return
1% (38 votes)
The liberal elite media
13% (486 votes)
The base, for not supporting the right candidates
5% (198 votes)
Something else (leave comment)
3% (106 votes)
Total votes: 3611

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Something else

I voted the leaders, but there should have been one that said,  "All of the Above."  since it hasn't been just one thing.  The Congress, that tried to out-Democrat the Democrats, was the real culprit. 

On the bright side, however, I believe the Democrats misread the vote that got them in as being supportive of their policies.  Obviously, those that didn't show up, were upset with the way Republicans were spending like they knew what they were doing. Can anyone say,  "The Bridge to No-where"?  Let's never forget, however, the power of the media since, the bridge to nowhere was never built.  

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

The only good I am to the Republicans is

my vote and my money.  That's all they want from Lebowski.  Not my opinions, advice or direction.  So just like a restaurant where I receive bad service or food, I take my business away from them.

This is what I have done with the Republicans.  They embarrass me.  They have let the Dims like Reid and Pelosi push them around now for almost 8 years.  Bush has rolled over on his tough talk leadership post 9/11 and is now letting North Korea off the hook and is offering diplomatic relations with those terrorists in Iran.  Not to mention that the Repubs expect me to vote for an enemy to conservatives in November??  Note to Repubs (if you care), I don't vote for Democrats from either party!

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.com

yea jeff, I regret ever giving them my money..

All they do is call me back and ask for more money. It appears that all my money went into their pesky phone bank call rooms.

They do not have the courage to broadcast their phone number on my caller ID.

The republican party left me ( as in LEFT)

Liberals62%


IranianUranium

Right's Misfortunes

I believe your comment: "The Congress, that tried to out-Democrat the Democrats" is pretty much the main issue. Their lack of principle led to their failure as leaders; which led to their grabbing the loot and running. But Repubs failed miserably in even coming close to the Dems in one category that is absolutely critical in our 'image-is-everything' media age: energy, combativeness, hyperbole.

While the GOP had the majority in Congress, any time Republicans tried to present anything remotely conservative, the Kennedys, Rangels, and Schumers jumped on their desks and shouted "outrageous; heinous; desipicable." And the Repubs were cowed into passivity. Frist & Hastert lacked the heart & guts to put up a fight, so they took the favors, bribes, and other filthy lucre, and then meekly abandoned ship.

Our feeble presidential candidate has appropriated one left-wing tactic - the Alice in Wonderland re-defining of anything ugly or nasty to make it pretty and honorable. McCain has re-imagined cowardice into the quality of a "Maverick". When Republicans had a lock on judicial nominees, and only had to exercise the 'nuclear option' to eliminate jucidial nominee filibusters, and get solid conservatives on the federal benches, McCain took the coward's way out and collaborated with Dems in the "Gang of 14" to insure solid conservatives did not get onto federal courts. He collaborated with Kennedy on the "Kennedy McCain Amnesty Act". And now he's collaborating with delusional environmentalists, insisting that we deny debate on the cause of global warming, and joining Dems in declaring a frigid, empty, lifeless polar wasteland to be "pristine" and off limits to oil well drilling. ANWR is the absolute best location in the world to drill, as far separate from humans and susceptible environment as possible, and yet McCain once again allows the left to not only set the agenda, but to determine how the agenda will be discussed and what the outcome will be.

The "kinder & gentler, compassionate conservatism" of Georges I & II are the timid euphemisms for the passivity of timid men who
pretend they can turn a nasty, threatening world into Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood. Republicans are being beat over the head, over and over, with a "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" opportunity with the price of oil & gas, and the depression that will be brought about when jobs disappear because of petroleum caused inflation. They have an unbelievable opportunity to demonstrate leadership and create massive separation between themselves and the Dems, but this bellwether moment is being lost in the  GOP leaders' slumber. And if they even awaken from their power & greed induced stupor, what we get is flatulence like the "gas tax holiday" and cap and trade taxes.

The GOP needs some fighters, but we don't have them in place yet. There are some - the Inhofes & DeMints - who have the courage to speak out and bear the brunt of the hostile left. The future leaders like Bobby Jindal will be able to build on the foundation these courageous men are creating; so the hope is that the Obama experience will be as the Carter experience - 1 term of malaise and disastrous appointments to the Courts.

Amen, selahgreene!

Amen, selahgreene!

The GOP themselves

I realize Dems do this too, and it is a double standard, but the GOP has been good for a while now, but all the sex scandals they had, especially for the party of morals.

The out of control spending while they had the majoirty in congress and a 29 percent approval rating for the President does not help much either

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

→ Yeah, Sawn

Running a gay house of prostitution out of his apartment is pretty bad.

Oh, I'm sorry!  That was Barney Frank (D) Massachsetts.

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I'm talking within the past 5 yrs CA. That is when the GOP really started to sink in polls and lost alot of their power and influence right?

Yes there was Spitzer and the Detroit Mayor. I realize it is not fair, but i'm just saying it is more important for repubicans to practice what they preach, because they are the party of morals.

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

OK, Shawn

But when a Barney Frank, or a Willim Jefferson, gets caught, their constituents reelect them.

Republicans are more prone to expect a higher standard.

Your logic seems to automatically forgive malfeasance as long as the culprit gets reelected.

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Spitzer resigned, I will

Spitzer resigned, I will wait to see what will happen with the Detroit Mayor.

As far as sex scandals go, I could care less if someone sees a prostitute in their own time. however if they strongly oppose prostitution that makes them a huge hypocrite. ie Spitzer. Or strongly supporting abstinence and having happy endings...ie David Vitter. Or Mark Foley writing child predator laws.

Nothing bothers me more than hypocrisy, that applies to both parties

The pubic has lost confidence in the GOP and they are desperate for change, I realize Obama might be misleading them, but the public just wants to new leadership, especially on the Presidential front

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

Democrats can't

have money and Republicans can't have sex

Come on Matt

Not sure what you are implying, but where in the world did I say anything like that?.

I don't know that Democrats are saying you can't have money. Again, I could care less if a Republican has straight sex, gay sex, married sex, unmarried sex, prostitution sex. It would not matter to me at all. However if the certain politician trys to condemn others for their behavior while doing the same thing. ie Newt Gingrich was criticizing Clinton, while having and affair of his own, that is hypocrisy.

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

Now that you brought him up...

Are you kidding me?  Clinton (Hillary's life-partner) is the hypocrite par excellence.  The media smokescreens aside, the whole Lewinsky scandal was the result of an investigation focused on alleged sexual harassment, which, as typical for his ilk, is habitual.  In the meantime, it is also his ilk that is responsible for establishing the stringent sexual harassment laws that came back to bite him on the ass. 

"I could care less if a Democrat wants to make inappropriate sexual advances on female subordinates half his age.  However, if the certain politician trys to condemn others [and puts his money where his mouth is by establishing punitive laws which eventually lead to him being caught with his own pants down], that is hypocrisy."

The difference, which other NB posters correctly point out, is that Clinton was exonerated, even rewarded (his life-partner getting a seat in the U.S. Senate), for his behavior by the leftist media and congress.

They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.  Matt. 23:4

Matthew, LOL-Why do you think I am a libertarian?

:-)

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

legal drugs??

;^ )

 [ / Sarc mode]

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

"I realize it is not fair,

"I realize it is not fair, but i'm just saying it is more important for
repubicans to practice what they preach, because they are the party of
morals."

At least you admit that morals aren't important to the Democrat party.

It's really all of the above but the media is the biggest part

No one wants to be demonized and many Republicans are afraid to stand up to the press.

GOP Lost Nerve?

They lost their nerve when conserving our sovereignty as a nation and as a people clashed with the bottom line outlook of country club republicans.

They are against economic nationalism, and all for an economy specifically tailored for their interests.

They have put all their eggs in the China basket and then spiced it all up with resistance to realistic regulation of banks, mortgages and Wall Street's hegemony.

Now they go looking for bailouts for their Humpty Dumpty banks and wonder how long they can keep their operations in China profitable while transport costs have gone up 150% and wages rise 10% to 30% a year.

Meanwhile all that saves us from a complete rout in the next election is the degree of two-faced backsliding of Obama himself, and the democrats allergic reaction to the very notion of drilling for oil.

I'm with "Both"

I see an ossified party which rejects and is therefore increasingly rejected by young people. McCain's likely to lose the first of many losing elections for Republicans because of it. Talks I've seen this weekend at The Last HOPE confirm my beliefs, especially "Grand Theft Lazlow - Hacking the Media by Laughing at Them." GTA's "Weasel News" parodies keep coming true on the real Fox News. I'm sure some GOP "leaders" will also try to claim it's all the libertarians' fault when they blow this election, but they're reaping as they've sown via basic issues like spending too damn much.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

  You have wonder what's

  You have wonder what's wrong with the GOP leadership when both candidates once they clinched their nominations moved to the right because that's where the most voters are, center right.

Repub problems always stem

Repub problems always stem from RINO's and the libs are also screwing up both parties - our "libs" are the so-called libertarians

Yeah!

That Ted Stevens is a real Libertarian leader, eh? (Comments this stupid simply require parody, ok?) The Republican party's problems stem from using (read: "stealing") libertarian rhetoric around election time and then ignoring those exact same small government ideas around spending time. Every time. Like it or not.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

You folks have it wrong.

You folks have it wrong. It's Sean Hannity's fault. He tried to help a disabled woman, you know.

&%$#@!

&%$#@! that Sean Hannity!

/Sarcasm Off

 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

→ ckc

That's unfair.  Alan Colmes is not a disabled woman.

Not in the true sense of the term, anyway.

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:)

:)

GOP has lost its moral compass

The Repubs are an embarrassment in so many ways and levels. One they began to act and behave exactly like the Dems. I think there is a fundamental problem with having people become career politicians. After only a short time in Washington D.C. people begin to act like they are some kind of rock star or royalty and are no longer accountable to anyone but their own ambitions and some kind of misguided Party line. They are there at our pleasure. They are to go there to serve the people of their State and Districts.  Term limits would eliminate about 75% of the problem. Even after one of them falls on their sword they stay there and become lobbiest or worse, advisors to the next batch of ingrates we send in. The GOP is the worst about throwing one of their own under the bus too. When a Dem gets caught doing something, they circle the wagons and stick by their own. Let a Repub get caught doing something and if you even find another Repub he or she is jockying to take the fallen members position. When GWB needs support where the hell were most of the Repubs; hiding under their desks with the exception of Kyle and a few others. Hell, even Lieberman is more of a support than most GOPers. For so long we had Trent Lott and his corn-poned a$$ shuffling along in lock step with the Dems on most things. "Jez tryin to get along, ya'll". The other thing aggrevating is the GOP trying to nuzzle up to the press and the MSM, hoping they will one day like them. Paralysis by analysis has been a major disease of the Republican Party. Time to clean house and start over with Americans who love their country more than their Party.

Churches are failing people.

Oprahzized feel good megachurches are not giving the people the warning against the liberal media onslaught.


Obama's Real Religion Too bad McCain is a fellow worshipper

I said "something else" because

Our leadership are not supporting Conservative minded candidates and they promot the middle of the road.

I will not give $ to the R party until and unless the Conservative thinking returns.

My $'s will go to Conservative candidates individually.

We should also change our primary's so as not to include the so called Independants or others.

The party that allows everyone to vote in their primarys will in todays political climate, end up with a candidate with no Core values and who will be anything but Conservative.

My opinion.

This is a long shot Delsa - but I'm going to give time and money

to Dick Durbin's Challenger Steve Sauerburg

moveondickdurbin.org

Don't you love the website?

Dee

Good idea and yea the site is great!

All of the above.

None of those choices are mutually exclusive and they are all true, some to a greater extent than others.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

As a "young conservative" I

As a "young conservative" I think it's basically all of the above. I look at the Republican party and I rarely see anyone who represents persons like myself. All the good guys are shoved away in the corner. What happened to having a backbone and standing up for the good? What happened to no more big government? Lower/overhauled taxes? The ability for small businesses to band together for affordable healthcare? What about overhauling social security? Wasn't that supposed to be optional?

In addition, I don't think the Republicans reach out to the younger voters. During the early Primary season, as an independant, I received attention/flyers from the Democrats and none from the Republicans. Way to say young voters don't matter!

Not a great showing by the

Not a great showing by the Repubs. However, I seem to recall after the 2006 midterms, the RNC was pretty close to broke (financially, that is.) They may still be trying to dig their way out of that hole. Could someone confirm my recollection, please?

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Behind the scenes know it

Behind the scenes know it all so-called top leaders and over-paid consultants...no spine to fight the dem party or the msm, they just go along to get along thinking everybody will weally weally like them...RINOs is what the top GOP has become.

RINOs, Dem lite...forget the real conservatives....and this has been going on for years....and years.

Since '94...slowly but surely...district by district...state by state...bad enough some states are turning blue...so are some in the  repub party.

Just my two cents... 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

As an Old Repulican

As an old (Conservative) Republican, I feel the same way. Senate and House Reps should be standing up and demanding the resignation/expulsion of crooks like Jefferson, Reid, Murtha and Durban!  They should trumpet their outrage from the rooftops, and stand on THEIR desks and denounce Dem bills that seek to garner still more power to the Government, or worse, threaten National Security and Sovereignty.

  I, too,  regret having contributed to the RNC during the last cycle.  Everytime I get a call or "opinion poll" I tell them the same thing:  let the Republicans grow some spine and CONFRONT the Dhimmis, THEN I'll consider dropping another dime to them! 

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch!

The Republicans had a

The Republicans had a perfect opportunity to do just that when Newt was in charge and the Contract was being pushed. Unfortunately, there were far too many middle-of-the-road "Republicans" that were more concerned with their own media coverage than doing what's right. The fact that John McCain is now the presumptive nominee for the Republican party speeks volumes as to the state of the Conservative movement in America. The fire still burns in many American souls as it does in mine, but I fear there are far too few of us left who can see through the sheep's clothing of tyranny.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

not blaming the msm

I am pleasantly surprised of the results of this poll. Looks like many conservatives are not all saying it is all Hollywoods fault, or just liberals. As of this post only 13 percent blame it on liberals.

They are holding their elected representives responsible for once.

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

As long as you've been

As long as you've been here, I'm surprised you're surprised.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bigtimer

Well, i'm surprised your surprised that I'm surprised :-)

In the past, many members decided to just blame Hollywood, the msm and liberals.

It seems after losing 3 house seats that were safe for decades and the reality of the possiblity of a Dem President and congress to wake them up to take responsiblity for the partys shortcomings.

btw,

nice new tagline

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

Many members have been

Many members have been angry with the hypocrisy and bias with Hollywood, the msm of all venues, and the leftists party...when the subject would come up in a blog post...but just as many members have blamed the party for being weak-kneeded and jellied spined...and RINO/Dem lite when the subject comes to who you blame for the GOP party and backings over the years..

It depends on the subject of the blog post...you know that.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

"It depends on the subject of the blog post...you know that"

I would have to disagree. The topic of the thread could be about cute puppies, and the subject will turn into Why Democrats like b*tches in heat. Yes that was hyberbole and I realize the mission statement of thi site is, but not many post get through without blaming the msm or the liberals.

I also disagree with your assessment about blaming the GOP and holding them accountable. When I first joined this site, I saw nothing but praise and good things said about our President. throughout the war, the attorney firings etc. It was not until his immigration debacle that I started seeing strong criticism from members.

The candidate that I would say most members of this site backed, Fred Thompson did not get the nomination, because republicans did not vote for him, they voted for McCain who many consider weak kneeded and jellied spined. From what I recall many members blamed that on the liberals and msm as well.

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

We'll just have to agree to

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Not in the mood for a tit for tat today....

...got to catch up on othere posts.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I Wonder...

I put down that the GOP leadership has lost their ambition and conservatism, but I have to wonder about what Rush Limbaugh has suggested. He has put forth the notion that the blue-blood country club, corporate leader types "hate" the true conservatives and the religious right having too much influence in the party in the past.

I'll take this a step further and suggest that the party may be willing to "throw away" 2008 with the idea that the rest of the populace will see how bad for the nation the Democrats are and with little effort on the party's part, sweep the Republicans back into power in 2010 without having to court or pander to conservatives and the religious as they have in the past.

WC... I have to

WC...

I have to respectfully disagree with your last paragragh...

The GOP party isn't pandering to the conservative base at all..in fact they are poking us in the eye every chance they get...it has been said more than once that they do not need us...they want the middle, the so-called Independents....and hopefully some dems...

they are making a big mistake.

Whether McCain wins or loses...the conservatives will be coming back with a vengnece...one way or the other...possibly by 2010...for sure by 2012....and the GOP will realize they have made a mighty big mistake once again...their base damned well needs us...along with the religious faction. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Republicans have taken for granted the conservative vote

because they believed that we would vote Republican regardless like minorities blindly vote for Democrats.  The difference is that conservatives won't support liberal candidates...regardless of party.

Republicans have taken my vote for granted and they lost it.  They can have it back once they get rid of the RINO's in leadership and provide conservative candidates and performance.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.com

I agree JB. We have no

I agree JB.

We have no backbone anymore. We HAVE to get real Conservatives elected! There are too many RINO's in the Republican Party now. Liberals will support their people no matter what... loyalty. We need the same loyalty to Conservative values. I was hoping for Duncan or Fred myself. Oh well. Republicans have changed in the last decade, and I hate it! I think we need to concentrate on Congress, elect conservatives. I don't have a lot of confidence but will vote for them anyway. Crossing my fingers...

"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"

None of the above.  We have

None of the above.  We have been demonized by a very successful propaganda campaign, to which we make little reply. Fortunately, the Dems' total ineptness on energy policy will probably lead to their defeat, not anything our pathetic candidate or national organization will do.

The Right's Misfortunes, Who's to Blame?

All of the above.

 

For the record, Bob Barr '08!

Why vote for McCain...

...when you can vote for a real Democrat?

Because he is McNotobama.

Because he is McNotobama.

I've always thought Conservatives...

I’ve always thought Conservatives were just too darn nice. They don’t fight fire with fire. A large number of Democrats/Liberals are from protected voting areas and know they can say just about anything without impunity. That said, another large batch of these people on the left were not raise with the same set of manners and character that Conservatives generally are. Nancy Pelosi says some of the most hateful things about the President of the United States on national television and when a Conservative is asked about it they just say we don’t want to get into name-calling or some other weak response. As a life-long conservative I’m sick of being associated with such a large group of wimps.

Sold out to the Bankers

 

Started with Nixon and the repudiation of the gold standard in 1971. The right has never protested this or sought remediation or restoration of constitutional money. Instead they have jumped on the gravy train, public money for votes. Get your buddies in high places and shake the money tree. Now its up to the commies to see the value in gold and save the planet. Nice, guys.

The problem is the cowardly

The problem is the cowardly "leadership" of the Republican Party.  You have a Democrat-led Congress with a 9% Approval Rating, gas prices that have doubled since Reid, Pelosi and Company have taken the reins and a housing/financial market that has virtually collapsed under the weight of crooks like Schmuckie Schumer...yet the Republicans are unwilling or unable to attack on these issues.  Instead, you've got economically illiterate, incompetent gasbags like Arnold Schwarzenegger demanding to expand their brand of failure nationally...as if screwing up one State didn't create enough damage.  This is the perfect opportunity for the Republican Party to reclaim its authority, to appeal to the base that elected this "leadership"...yet the party is propping up losers like Pawlenty, Crist, Schwarzenegger and McCain.  What a wasted opportunity!

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

fitzfong.blogspot.com

Bulls-Eye

Bulls-Eye fitz...Bulls-Eye!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Who is to blame.

All of the above. Since the Republican Party controlled both houses of Congress and decided to out Democrat the Democrats I have been telling them every time I was given the chance that I felt like Zell Miller. “I didn’t leave my party, my party left me.”  My comment to them was always that I thought the party had abandon its principles and lost all intestinal fortitude under the leadership of Trent Lott et al. I am a life long Republican and have supported their causes with my time, money and my vote, but will hence forth reconsider that. I may again support them when Republicans decide to stand for some thing besides reelection.

Conservative and their agenda? What is that?

The MSM has so abused its resources and special position to shape the perception and discussion of current events that honest unfettered discussion of politics has been significantly distorted and choked off. It would have been interesting if that Pew News test that we took yesterday had asked if Bush stole the election of 2000, or if he had “lied” in justifying the invasion of Iraq when he claimed that Saddam Hussein had Weapons of Mass Destruction. The trouble is now there is simply no way to appraise objectively such matters. The MSM has so distorted, manipulated, and abused the facts that you cannot even reach huge swaths of the population about what the real facts are. And don’t get me started on how the MSM, along with Hollywood and our education system, have upended our social institutions through their manipulations. Yes, there is, for the time being, Rush Limbaugh and some others on talk radio; and that is helpful for those who care to huddle around their radio. But as far as reaching the average Joe is concerned – the average Joe, who is just trying to get by, and not scrutinizing the way information is fed to him – there is simply no way for him to be exposed fairly to information that does not conform to the MSM’s liberal/leftist agenda. Someone is kidding himself if he thinks, under the circumstances, a conservative of any stripe has a fair chance of getting their view heard and voted upon.

There are altogether too many media pawns, who have no idea that they are constantly being manipulated. And these media pawns vote just as much as anyone else.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

needle... You are so dead

needle...

You are so dead on.

...and it's not going to change anytime soon.

The msm know it.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Media

I too chose the liberal media because there were plenty of conservatives out there in the primaries. The media stroked the McCain campaign and he came back from nowhere to grab that nomination. There are always going to be centrists running but with McCain/Feingold, it's going to be a lot tougher to get a conservative on the ticket unless he campaigns with what he stands for. All of the above is a good answer but Liberal Media is the main reason in my opinion.  

Same here. Where do the lot

Same here. Where do the lot of us, generally speaking, get our information on current events?  In the past, under different guises, it's been variously called mind-control, programming, propaganda, brainwashing, etc.  I'm not saying the media are evil incarnate, or that they don't ever report objectively or truthfully, but nobody here can deny that there isn't a left-leaning bias, one that has slowly changed the political and sociological landscape.  Over the course of about 50 short years, mainstream Western moral principles have been abandoned; today's "neoconservatives" end up looking bad, unhip, hypocrytical, out-of-touch, archaic, anachronistic, repressed, unenlightened, bigoted, close-minded, etc., qualities that don't lend themselves to gaining votes. 

I voted for GOP top

I voted for GOP top leaders, they've lost their ambition and conservatism.

I believe they're too damned worried about clinging to the great DC virtue of being "Bipartisan"...good grief I absultely hate this word!  Oh, and we all know that being bipartisan in Washington means doing what the Dems want!  They need to start rejecting Democrat/Liberal premises on their face! For example: 1) AGW, 2) "We can't drill our way of this energy crises..." 3) why the Feds "can't afford to cut taxes..." etc.

Instead of rejecting these bogus premises by the libs, what do our Country Club, Bluebloods do?  They come up with a pseudo conservative way to address these issues (i.e. proposing that we lower the speed limit to 55 mph, providing rebate checks, continuing to push solar and wind power etc.  Since they don't reject the premises of the bogus arguments, they give weight to them.

I think that we need term limits...especially for these arrogant Senators. I believe it's time for the likes of Warner, Hatch, Specter and Bluebloods to step down and let young CONSERVATIVES who aren't afraid of a fight to step in before this country is completely socialized by the libs!

 

 

Vote for me and I'll vote against all spending!

That will be my campaign slogan when I run for congress. We need more people to get elected who will stop spending like drunken socialites without their panties. We need congressmen and women to go to Washington and push back against the politics as usual.... and I mean for real.

I'm going to run eventually, but I'll probably lose since I refuse to lie to get elected. I'll tell the truth. I won't fight for equal rights, I won't fight for clean air, I won't fight for safe food, I'll fight for free markets which will force those afore mentioned issues to happen far better than any bloated expensive bureaucracy could ever do... I will fight for freedom... and freedom from government is what we need more than anything else at the moment.

____________________________________________________

"A society that puts equality...ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality nor freedom." ~ Milton Friedman

lbz... I have told you to

lbz...

I have told you to run from the first time you mentioned it here on NBs when I first met and got to know you....

We need more like you!

I wish you the best when you do this.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

LBZ, I, too, have been

LBZ, I, too, have been contemplating a run. However, I have a different plan. My goal is to wipe out the existing Congress completely. I believe that if a concerted effort is made, then most of the 435 House seats can be claimed by a group that is dedicated to doing the right things. To start, I believe that a Constitutional ammendment should be put in place to limit the terms of Congress. After all, there is one for the Pres. I am with you on spending, but that is not the exact platform to run on. People do not like extremes. Would this help clean up Washington, D.C.? I hope so. Good luck.

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Herm... I hope and pray

Herm...

I hope and pray that people like you and lbz run...but term limits we already have, our Forefathers already for-saw that...

It is every two for the House...Six for the Senate...it is up us us as individuals to know who we are voting for each time...changing it the way you want if possible...it's not going to make one iota of difference ..you cannot mandate idoidciy anymore than we already have.

It is up to us!

Nothing more..nothing less.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I forgot whose tagline it

I forgot whose tagline it was, but something to the effect, the moment politician becomes a career choice is the day we need to take back the republic. My starting point would be something like 2 terms each in the House and Senate. Unfortunately, the general population is not well informed about the candidates and what they stand for and this is why we have career politicians like Kennedy. (He is not my target, btw) The Founders would never have thought that someone would spend 42 years in the Senate because they would naturally assume they would need to take care of their home and family. This has changed greatly with the advent of air transportation. You can be home in a matter of a few hours instead of days or weeks.

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

If there are no high ranking

If there are no high ranking members of the RNC who read this, the entire contents of these posts should be sent to them.  If they truly care about who we are and what we think, its all right here.

I almost voted for the

I almost voted for the first one, but I don't really think that it's ambition and conversatism they've lost.  They lost their b@llsIn some strange belief that they too can be loved by the media, the GOP has stopped stating what we believe.  I think the leadership is all looking for that Sally Fields' moment, "You like us, you really like us!" that is never going to come.  I think until they grow a pair and start attacking the Democrats on theissue, the broken promises, and the overall inability to lead, we are all screwed.  

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

A major problem is THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT...

A major problem is THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT. While it is not the sole problem it is more significant than any other. Now let me make clear, I AM A CHRISTIAN, i.e. born again, believe on Christ as Savior. So critics of this comment who want to dismiss it as someone antagonistic to Christianity, there is a plank you can walk very quickly.

The Christian right made a drastic and fundamental mistake that is hurting the Republican party and conservatives today. And that is expecting and demanding that GOOD POLITICAL LEADERS in our party hold to specific Christian beliefs and doctrines. First on that list is the teaching, either direct or indirect, that a good leader or one a faithful Christian can vote for MUST BE a born again Christian or say words equivilent to that such as "I believe in Jesus as my Savior" or minimally attend an Evangelical church.

WRONG...WRONG...WRONG. And today poisonous minds like Dobson keep his well trained sheep from good reason and voting for able leaders because of this sycophantic necessity.

A good LEADER understands principles of freedom and justice. That is what a good leader does. A good leader understands the necessity of internal and external security for a nation. Being BORN AGAIN doesn't insure any of this. You can be born again all day long and not understand the economy, international diplomacy, the necessity of military action and constitutional imperatives.

Christian conservatives had the privilege of two Presidents that spoke similar language regarding their faith. Great, but that isn't what makes a GREAT PRESIDENT. It is a man or woman that understands the principles of freedom and what it takes for a nation to survive. That is NOT an exclusve right or capacity for Christians.

And to worsen this ideological error the Christian right leaders have emphasized how God will bless in a special way a President who IS a Christian. Pal, the Bible teaches that ALL officials of a state are ministers whether they believe in God or not. They are blessed by God by DEFAULT when they do what is right and seek to preserve freedom and justice. It is a defacto work of God on their behalf.

We have sound thinking leaders in the GOP that have been ignored or minimized because of the sectarian religious demands of the Dobsons, Robertsons, Reeds and formerlly Falwell. Well buddies, go ahead and cling to one or two issues such as abortion while a LEFTY LIB is voted in office because YOU refused to support a better and more qualified GOP nominee all because he doesn't hold to your specific religious views. And then when the nation is suffering with Carter-like inflation and crumbling economy, a decimated military and genuine depression like conditions, your special interest won't really matter because you won't be able to afford the luxury of your positions and protests. Instead you'll be greatful for a sound thinking leader regardless of his or her faith. God blesses ministers of the state when they do right, whether they are a believer in Christ as Savior or not! Get a clue.

Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

I agree with your

I agree with your conclusion but for a different reason, that is, the "Christian Right" has for the most part substituted political activism for evangelism. Like all nations that God in His wisdom has raised up and brought down, this one too eventually has an end (Jeremiah 50 & 51). "Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people" Proverbs 14:34

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

I don't disagree with that

I don't disagree with that view either. But since that wasn't so much the reason for the party's problems supporting a candidate rather than the problems within the church itself, I didn't present that dimension of my thoughts. I do agree with your position on that end of the matter.

Next Please! If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

I placed my vote on number

I placed my vote on number 1 with this modification, "They have placed their ambition ahead of their conservatism."

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

GOP Leadership

There is a distinction between the GOP & Conservatives and the leadership are not conservative. 

I have heard several of the leaders & former leaders (trent-the-hairdoodoo) and I wonder what they atre doing on our side of the isle. They are the clowns that gave us MacNasty.

How did we ever come to such a situation???

 

 

Its funny how this site

Its funny how this site wants to blame liberals for their misfortune...

If you look up liberal in the dictionary you will see openminded.

Closed minded thinking from the administration and its loyal followers was the real downfall of the new neoconservative party!

 

 

Nice to be Back!

YET YOU KEEP COMING BACK


Its funny how this site wants to blame liberals for their misfortune...

It's funny how "this site" bothers you so much, yet

YOU KEEP COMING BACK

 

 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

I havent been here in a

I havent been here in a while but ocassionally I also tune into Rush and Fox for a good laugh!!

Let me know when this declining party will laugh at itself.

 

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Come on, Randy

Could you please dial the rhetoric up a bit?  We missed the hyperbole.

Perhaps a Lata Mate!

Or somesuch? 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Hi Randy

According to the poll, members realize that their elected leaders are more to blame than the liberals are. Also you realize that the Democratic led congress is failing miserably as well don't you?

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

Scorecard

Shawn: 1

rhayesbat: 0

Holy smokes, Shawn!

You're getting close to the Dark Side.

Taking Hayse to task for mistaking pols for conserves?

Sheesh, Shawnee...you're scaring me. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

randy,

Let me know when this declining party will laugh at itself.

I've been laughing at the republican party since before1998, which is when I joined the Libertarian Party.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

Try looking up "troll" in

Try looking up "troll" in the dictionary.

randy, once again, you have proven to all of us here at NB...

...as you have hundreds of times before, that you have the reading comprehension skills of a 3 year-old.

Look carefully at the poll results displayed above.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

randy, my dictionary says that far-left libs are

...too stupid to live in a truly free society. This, of course, explains why most libs (like yourself) are such huge supporters of a totalitarian existence (for everyone but you libs, of course.)

As for your contention that libs are open minded, then please explain to all of us why RealClimate has apparently banned Ct and PT from placing comments on their site?

Or have you not been paying attention?

Pal, you are the poster-child as to why government schools are a threat to our very way of life.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

"If you look up liberal in

"If you look up liberal in the dictionary you will see openminded."

Suggestion for Randy Jackson:

In the future, please place some sort of disclaimer at the top of your posts, something like: "Please swallow your food and beverage and step back from your computer/keyboard before reading below."

I'm on a brand new laptop here, and almost destroyed it.

Please, Randy, it's all we ask.

 

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fear not Mr Shy

Randy isn't mentioning what else the dictionary says.

OK. I have to admit you

OK. I have to admit you guys surprised me. I fully expected an overwhelming percentage of the people to be blaming it on the "liberal elite media". But only 13% did.

Good for you. At least you aren't ready to put the blame on somebody else and say "We personally don't need to do anything different".

I sometimes wish the Democrats would come around to that way of thinking a little.

Cure

"We personally don't need to do anything different".

We do need to do something different. Be far more conservative than ever before.

 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

No, no, no, no!! Don't do

No, no, no, no!! Don't do that. That's not what I was trying to imply.

Liberal. Its the new thing. All the cool kids are doing it. You get a free Scott Baio poster when you join...Come on!! :-)

Cureboy,

Liberals are the establishment, and being the anti-establishment rebel that I am, I believe I'll be moving right, and taking as many with me as I can.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Alright. But I get your

Alright. But I get your Scott Baio poster.

Huh?? WTF!! "Nuke 'em

Huh?? WTF!!

"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"

*

*

Ditto RD, ditto!

Ditto RD, ditto! LOL!

 

"Nuke 'em 'til they... oh hell, just shoot 'em!"

Democrats have done little ,

Democrats have done little , but at least they have not helped the fast decline of  this country as well as the current administration has .

Randy

I am the last person to defend the Bush administration, but we are in Iraq now and cutting and running should not be an option. They will be leaving Iraq open to more and more terrorist.

The Dem congress have not kept any of their promises. The only they have to show for their two years in charge is investigations and more investigations. How about the health care they were going give veterens, how about the new equipment and IED proof tanks they were going to give the troops?

Oil prices are through the roof and food prices are out of control, are you saying this is all Bush's fault?

Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it

shawn, hey, wait a minute!

I am the last person to defend the Bush administration...

LOL-Oh no you don't, as that person would be me.  :-)

Horn in on my turf, will ya?

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD & Shawn

Then I'm happy to assume the mantle of "first person" to defend the Bush administration.

:) 

 

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That turf is well trod

That turf is well trod RD.

The border thing alone is enough to get Bush 43 on my Shi'ite list.

lib�er�al ��

lib�er�al �� (lbr-l, lbrl) KEY � ADJECTIVE: Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

 

I believe that it is the closeminded thinking of the folks that are in power...

Some blame goes to the democrats for not having the courage make substantial sacrifice

  We have a brainwashed consumer philosophy of eating everything in site that has developed over the generations. 

We need to tighten our belts and think of serious alternatives for our wasteful ways.

 

(yawn)

(yawn)

Thanks Randy

I see you're making use of the fifth entry Webster provided on the definition of liberal. Since Webster is such a trustworthy source to you, why don't you click on that link to their definition of liberal politics and see if that applies to you.

ETA: According to Webster libs espouse a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard

Wait, that doesn't sound like Randy at all........

"WE" Randy?

We need to tighten our belts and think of serious alternatives for our wasteful ways.

You and your fellow liberals are more than welcome to tighten your belts all you'd like.  I'll applaud you!

Just keep your freaking little grabby hands off of my belt buckle.

Live it, Randy.  LEAD BY EXAMPLE!  You and Al Gore....Barry, et. al.  Suck it up.....LEAD BY EXAMPLE! 

My God, you liberals are so silly you haven't a clue.  And I won't sell you one, because you certainly couldn't afford it.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

blonde

* big grin *

Did you see? Randy walks to work... really, he DOES!! You go, Randy!

And he just provided us a link of the top cities for walking/not using cars. Woooo hoooo !!! (my NYC is in the top 3, btw :)) 

 

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I'm driving!

Just cause I have a cute car! 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

As I have told this site

As I have told this site before, I do live by example by walking to work. I will be using mass transportation and bicycling to many places that are out of walking distance.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080717/us_nm/usa_cities_dc

 

Believe it or not, I am fiscally conservative besides being environmentally conservative. I do not believe in wasting needless money on a silly war for oil when we can use many other sources for energy.

 

Nice to be Back!

wow

The war is for oil! That explains why oil costs over 100 a barrel. And as for so many other sources of energy, what pray tell do we use instead of oil in the next few years?

The lib formula for energy independence goes something like this...

no drilling at home --- > a miracle happens --- > clean energy

No one is against new energy, as long as it's effective and affordable. But we shouldn't have to revert back to the 19th century in the meantime.

R.Hayes

Nuclear energy is clean, efficient, and can be done at a reasonable price. Care to remove the beauracracy and red tape that comes along with trying to build reactors.

In San Antonio, we get a sizable portion of our electricity from the nuclear reactor near Houston. CPS Energy is wanting to expand the facility to get more, but they have had to kowtow to enviromentalists to proceed. Remove the restrictions on nuclear and be amazed.

Edit: Sorry Candance, I was responding to Randy. Didn't mean to post to you comment.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

RESTLESS

To my understanding, aside from the usual fossil fuels, nuclear energy can also get the job done.  It is just not practically feasible to power this country using windmills and solar panels alone.  Oh, and don't forget, nuclear energy is also incredibly safe.  And yes, you are correct that it has been anti-technology leftists who have prevented the desparately needed construction of new power plants over the past two decades.  Too bad for us, as our current demand for oil would've been radically reduced.

Hey Candance

Randy is a whack job trolling lunatic from eons ago....(just checked your profile...well before your time).

Sit back and enjoy the ride.  And keep all liquids away from your keyboard.

Australian, teacher of children (yikes)...oh, I need to quit now.  Someone else fill Candance in, please.   

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

lol Blonde

I remember he made a brief appearance a few months back. Seems like a real winner.

liberal = winner ? I'm

liberal = winner ?

I'm confident they are all so on the wrong (losing) side of history, I sometimes have to pinch myself. 

 

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*shakes head*

My comment about him being a winner was sarcasm sweetie.

But as an aside, you're right. The Left was on the wrong side of slavery, civil rights, the Cold War, etc - and yet they never learn anything from it.

"The Left was on the wrong

"The Left was on the wrong side of slavery"

 please elaborate, Can!

or do you go along with the plantation philosophy of the neoconservatives??

 

 Nice to be Back!

okay Randy

Let me break this down really simple for you:

The religious right was the loudest voice in America speaking against slavery and social injustices. Nuanced, compassionate, open minded Democrats like Preston Brooks physically attacked those who endorsed abilition. Evil, narrow minded church goers like Henry Ward Beecher advanced the cause of abolition, much to the annoyance of secular progressives who saw it as the religious right trying to force a moral code on everyone.

Please explain to me exactly what a neocon is.

 

   "endorsed

 

 "endorsed abilition"???

Republicans were very different then and so was the democratic party....

Southern Democrats joined  the new republican party and  the plantation mentality was recently adopted by the wealthy Republican party..

I could talk about the neocon party which has continued to hold your party hostage and control of the right wing media but that will only open a can of worms and continual personal attacks...

 

 

Nice to be Back!

the loudest voice in

the loudest voice in America speaking against slavery...

Republican yes...but more properly described as the religious "left", and primarily situated in the northeastern states.  That's why New England Republicans are traditionally more liberal.

Jer

Candance, I know it was!

Candance, I know it was! (sheesh :p) I was just reinforcing, and for the likes of Randy, simplifying and removing any sarcasm.

:) 

 

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candance, do a search for rhayes. And put on your seatbelt. :-O

Trust me, as he has apparently undergone a lobotomy since he last left us.  :-)

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

Typical of blonde and other

Typical of blonde and other polite repubs that enjoy doing character assasinations

Flattered that you have been writing a biography on me, Blonde

and that you still have not left the computer since 2004..

sometimes its nice to have life away from the computer.

get up and walk around...get a breath of fresh air sometime..

 

Nice to be Back!

Writing a bio?

Well gosh, randy.....if that were the case, I'd need a couple of updates from you.

How's it going with Hater, over on Stern?

Have you found a cure for your ED yet?

Did you ever find the evil virus in your school board's computer?

Me...I am on my seventh computer since 2004.  Are you still using the Apple IIe?

Finally, did you manage to move out of the 2' bunkers on that Aussie beach yet?

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Wow...the crickets chirp!!!!!

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

I am on my seventh computer since 2004

J,

LOL-little rough on them, eh?

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD i think i'm on my 8 th.windmills and power surges, vista yuk

downgrading to windows XP..

the nature of the beast, break and replace.

Liberals62%


IranianUranium

I noticed over the years,

I noticed over the years, blonde, since spider webs have grown on your computers, you have only brought on personal attacks against me or anyone that differs from your opinion... I have yet to read anything of substance from your posts...only personal attacks

 

You seem to be following my history as enquiring fans eagerly read People magazine and the Enquirer... Let me know when you read anything with a higher reading level of a tabloid...

 

get a breath of fresh air and some exercise sometime..'

lata mate!

 

 

 that s Nice to be Back!

candance

Arg!! I had a whole funny thing typed up and ready to post, and when I hit preview it all disappeared.... FUDGE! :( This has happened twice now since I logged on.... well, anyway, it was cute and funny, I assure you.

Anyway, we're happy to put the ball of shooting-down-loony-libs in your hands tonight. Continue on. You're doing a bang-up job.

:) 

 

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Well shucks

Any comment from you is always cute and funny.

:p

You guys are all MSM Brainwashed....NB'ers also

Bush is SOOOO unpopular,
he won by Millions of votes last election.

Pelosi and Reid and all their associates are MORE unpopular than Bush....it's just NOT being Reported by the MSM.

The NB focus is the MSM, thus the influence of the MSM on NB....Predicting the Future is very Difficult, even AL Gore and his Nobel prize didn't see the Last 7 years of Global Cooling.

As Rush says, Bush is Loved by Americans...He is also Supported by the Military, and Hated by the European Press (which is GOOD).....Just remember the signature below, you ain't seeing it on TV.....but it's gonna Happen....but you won't see coverage on NB, because they cover the MSM.

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

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