I gave it a home run...she did what she had to do, introduce herself, give her platform, and took a shot at the MSM, then exceeded their low expectations.
I'm looking forward to the grand slam when she takes on Biden.
I said a homer also although it was a dang good speech and Palin is defitely a contender. I see her running in 2012 when McCain steps down because he is 76, age will be a big issue and if not 2016. It will be a granslam when they elect McCain.
I gave her a home run as well, due to the overall presentation, but what would have made it a grand slam would be to shed the school teacher look. We need to toughen her appearance up a little with the hair style and glasses.
Hair style and glasses? What I liked was the substance, the packaging was nice, but the substance was wonderful.
I do not buy the best peanut butter for the jar it comes in, but for the product.
No argument on substance but she also has to convince the public that if she goes toe to toe with the likes of the Mad Hatter of Iran or Putin of Russia, that she will have no fear in her eyes. We know Obambi will cry like a scared little kid. That is a stereotype that women have to work against, the lack of toughness. What she has to protray is that pitbull with lipstick! She has the physical jaw line to pull that off. She needs to show she has the mettle of Maggie Thatcher. The voters need to know if anything (terrorism) were ever to happen on her watch she would be as fearsome/terrifying as a mother bear protecting her cubs.
I'll call Palin's speech a triple. Only actions that yield excellent results and are based on conservative values get grand slams and home runs, not speeches.
I agree with you, however, the question was to rate the speech. I rated it a Grand Slam, because she was able to pick up without a teleprompter without missing a heartbeat and make even some left of center commentators (Andrea, Mika) spout praise. The poll was to rate Palin's speech last night, and in that scope it deserves a Grand Slam. Rate Sarah Palin as a whole including speech and actions? We'll know in the coming weeks, I'm aiming my preliminary thoughts high though.
She did use a teleprompter, but I don't care. I gave her a grandslam. I stayed up way past bedtime to hear this woman and I was very impressed.
Did anyone notice the big deal some media commentators made about "the speech was written for her." Big Deal, like Obama writes his own speeches. Gimme a break! You never hear that point being made when he delivers a good speech.
Only actions that yield excellent results and are based on conservative values get grand slams and home runs, not speeches - Lame the question was specifically about the speech and from teh MSM comments and look of teh yellow stripes on their backs they are scared. All this makes it a hommer at least. BTW there were no expectations but if there were it would still be a homer.
Trust me, Dan- I know that the question was about the speech. But I wasn't willing to give lavish praise over something that people tend to hang onto too much these days.
Did she cover everything necessary? Basically, yes. And that's saying a lot when you take into account most politicians these days. I think she's on the right track, but only the next couple months of campaigning (and- if elected- her performance as VP) will tell.
I also suspect that she is indeed a RINO in some ways- but not NEARLY in as many ways as the majority of Republicans currently serving in the various levels of American government. Nor do I think, when all things are considered, that she is NEARLY as socialist as the vast majority of politicians on both sides of the aisle.
If her speech did the job, then it did the job. There's no need for me to go all bug-eyed and be extra-decorative with my indication of her success. She's not perfect, but she's a hell of a lot closer than most when it comes to politics- and that's why I support her.
My wife and 30 year old step-daughter watched both the Obama acceptance (Greek temple) speech and Palin's speech last night. Halfway through Obama's they started making fun of all his promises..., halfway through Palin's they were cheering!
It is high time the repubs started fighting back against the msm...I have been screaming for this for years, just fight back, politeness has never gained them votes, or got them anywhere, least of all good press...
President started it off the night before adn it has continued on into all of the great speeches last night..plus I watch a lot of the talking head shows and have been so pleased seeing different politico's from our side of the aisle fight back against these talking heads while being interviewed ect...it has been a long time coming...
Thank God for the internet...the people have spoken and the repubs have listened and taken heed, for once!
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Who's the idiot who voted strikeout? Ban him immediately.
It was a grandslam and beyond personal view and the great aspects and shots at Obama, the speech epitomized everything that this site has been saying since its inception.The media is biased towards the left and they are in the tank for Obam.
There were a few thing I wanted her to get into, but I suppose that will be left for McCain tonight. Though she is young in the political thing, she did what she needed to do, which is hush the naysayers and tell the media she doesn't care what they think of her. She railled the crowd, and has the base of the party behind her and that's what she needed to do. She showed confidence and strength. Like McCain said, we picked the right person.
I suggested HER just a week or two ago!!!! Hooray for Women!!! Sarah Palin has demonstrated what so many of us ladies who post know - a woman can be a strong woman and not come across as a shrew! She truly made all of us ready to jump up on that stage with her and say YES! So glad we have our nice big screen tv to watch this wonderful, historical occasion!!
My husband and I just returned from the post office where we deposited our envelope - with check enclosed - as our THANK YOU to Senator McCain for listening to his Conservative base.
McCain has shifted positions on a number of positions since his 2000 run for president, namely his stances on Roe v. Wade and immigration policy. Unless you're talking about the literal biological entity (which often doesn't merit "the same man" language), McCain is not the "same man" he was 8 years ago, thus the statement isn't true.
2) Obama hasn't authored a single major law or reform
Obama has worked on and helped pass a number of reforms, notable of which involve ethics reform and nonproliferation. To name one, he worked with Senator Feingold to assemble and pass S203 in the 110th Congress (The "Gold Standard" ethics reform bill), which the Washington Post gave them both credit for. For another, in the state senate he worked to pass HB 672 in 1998 which limited gifts government officials could receive from third parties with a conflict of interest.
Again, I think Palin's presence and delivery were good, but beyond spin, these statements and some others are lies, so I can only appreciate the speech so much.
Remix - according to the Library of Congress, S230 (not s.203 as you typed) has only been read into the record. It has not been voted on. I may not have the latest information, but the only action I have seen on it takes place on January 9, 2007. If you can find additional information then I would be interested. After all, we are talking about the potential leader of the free world. It would be nice if he has done something tangible.
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The bill Obama and his discipiles are touting as "spearheaded" was actually co-sponsoered by SEVENTEEN senators, none of whom have the last name Obama.
As Hermano pointed out above, "tangible" work of the Messiah debunked. Next?
McCain being "the same man" wherever he goes and he is. I assumed and believe she was talking about the character of the man and the decisions which result from the character. Remember she talked about his POW days and the character McCain displayed. So the same man argument is shot down. McCain has likely shifted on a number of issues in his 72 years as all of us have. But the key is why we have shifted.
And the second one Obama hasn't authored a single major law or reform where the key is authored. And you say worked with Senator Feingold and another was in state where he worked to pass HB 672. The key is he has no experience and has no initiative other rthan to say PRESENT.
And remixer you ghhve one a consolation prize for losing; teh home version of can I present any facts.
"Unless you're talking about the literal biological entity (which often
doesn't merit "the same man" language), McCain is not the "same man" he
was 8 years ago, thus the statement isn't true."
She didn't say he was the same man he was 8 years ago, nor did she say he has never changed his views on some things over those 8 years. As was quite clear to anyone who heard the speech, she was referring to shifting positions during one election cycle(hell, one week), such as telling people one thing in Scranton, and another thing in San Francisco.
I gave it a grand slam because it deserved it. It remains one of the single most historical speeches in these United States history. There were points in it where my wife was unashameadly weeping for joy. My oldest son, currently stationed at Ft Gordon called and was as excited as I have ever heard him, and he's not one to get too worked up about a whole lot after serving in Kosovo, Bosnia and two tours in Iraq.
This is the very first woman on a Republican Presidential ticket, and all of us had the honor to witness it! Yeah, it was a grand slam.
This is the very first woman on a Republican Presidential ticket, and all of us had the honor to witness it! Yeah, it was a grand slam.
Now if Senator McCain can just carry through tonight - with POSTIVE - FUTURE "speak" - everyone else has given us the background info - it's time to talk BUSINESS!
Compared to the all time great speeches of history this speech was only a grade 'B' speech, but being graded against FDR's "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" or Churchhills "the end of the beginning" speech is pretty heady. There is also something that should keep the liberal media up at night. This was a speech scripted so she did not outshine John McCain. She can do better.
41 Daily Kos voters expressing their opinion of Sarah "Barracuda" Palin is sort of like Harry Reid saying, he can't stand McCain! Not 41 strikeouts, 41 badges of honor!
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I rated this a grandslam because so much was riding on it. If she screwed up or set the wrong tone, then everything afterwards would exist in the shadow of that first impression (like in Hollywood where the opening weekend can make or break a film). She turned the tables so effectively on Obama that his Corrupted Pit Crew Media Goon Squad is panicked. He's now flagged in for repairs with his nuts cradled and reeling. The word "discombobulated" doesn't even begin to cover it.
There are iconic moments in that speech that will not soon be forgotten. Sarah's daughter smoothing down her baby brother's hair with spit. That line about hockey moms being pit bulls with lipstick. And the master stroke of repackaging the term "community organizer" as a national joke (Rush Limbaugh gets the credit for that observation). Contrast that to Obama's and Biden's speeches. They were like twin magic tricks disappearing in a cloud of confetti. The only thing I can remember of them is what Sarah referenced in HER speech.
Speaking of the daughter, she was priceless. All the money, prep and staging in the world couldn't match what she did. She was like a foundry furnace in which all the sharpened media knives melted.
Oh, yeah. And this: Remember that book, "Unlimited Access"? It was written by an FBI agent named Gary Aldrich who was assigned to the Clinton White House. He gave an account of how his partner had attempted to open a door for Hillary, who was carrying a heavy box, when a Residence staffer warned him not to. Apparently it was verboten for men to help her in any way. She gave strict orders for the Secret Service to "stay the f*** away". Like the stellar mother that she is, she passed her undisguised hatred for the men who would take a bullet for her to Chelsea, who called her protectors "personal, trained pigs".
Compare this to Sarah's daughter and her entire family. Differences like this are devistating. The crackup is going to be nasty over there on the Left so we're going to need some protective gear.
I figure if I stand back far enough I can watch them blow up from my lawn chair. Of course that's just an unprofessional opinion. But I do agree, Safety First!
The point of this survey is specifically about her speech and the point of her speech was to energize the base and so, it was a grandslam. I know that the base here typing this comment was a lot more energized after her speech (and Giuliani's).
To the best of my knowledge, I know nothing that Palin could have done better than what she did last night. She delivered an outstanding speech with virtual perfection, and she did so under the heat of tremendous pressure. Sure, she had a friendly audience, but what the media had done to her over the previous week put her in a precarious position. She had to be perfect, or they would have skewered her more. Well, she was perfect. (Sure, they're still trying to ding her here and there, but given her performance, those who crticize that speech are the ones who look like fools.)
Speaking of the speech, she drew 37 million viewers, a million less than Obama....and she was on 4 fewer channels than he was.
Not bad at all.
I think she's good for the ticket, but she has some populist leanings that bug me, so I'm not ready to drink the Palin kool aid. I will vote for the ticket though.
When I voted in this poll, (grandslam!) I noted that a grand total of 61 people had voted for "strikeout." Didn't know that many left-wingers hung around this site. Even if you didn't like what the "Sara-cuda" had to say, you had to admire her poise, her authenticity, her refusal to cave in to the hubristic likes of NBC,CNN, and others of their ilk. In any case, there's no way her speech last night was anything close to a strikeout. Liberals, beware "Sara-cuda, the Artic Fox!"
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I gave it a home run...she
September 4, 2008 - 11:09 ET by taterI gave it a home run...she did what she had to do, introduce herself, give her platform, and took a shot at the MSM, then exceeded their low expectations.
I'm looking forward to the grand slam when she takes on Biden.
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How does Biden debate? I
September 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by GregEHow does Biden debate? I mean, don't the participants only get about a minute to answer? He'll only be 25% thru his response in that timeframe.
How does Biden debate? I
September 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by GregEHow does Biden debate? I mean, don't the participants only get about a minute to answer? He'll only be 25% thru his response in that timeframe.
tater... Exactly...same
September 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by bigtimertater...
Exactly...same here!
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I said a homer also
September 4, 2008 - 11:16 ET by Dan The Man 2I said a homer also although it was a dang good speech and Palin is defitely a contender. I see her running in 2012 when McCain steps down because he is 76, age will be a big issue and if not 2016. It will be a granslam when they elect McCain.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Grand slam. As long as she
September 4, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Hero SquadGrand slam. As long as she keeps batting cleanup, she'll have more opportunities to clear the bases.
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I gave her a home run as
September 4, 2008 - 13:01 ET by dscottI gave her a home run as well, due to the overall presentation, but what would have made it a grand slam would be to shed the school teacher look. We need to toughen her appearance up a little with the hair style and glasses.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Hair style and glasses?
September 4, 2008 - 15:17 ET by Pete WilsonHair style and glasses? What I liked was the substance, the packaging was nice, but the substance was wonderful.
I do not buy the best peanut butter for the jar it comes in, but for the product.
No argument on substance
September 4, 2008 - 15:27 ET by dscottNo argument on substance but she also has to convince the public that if she goes toe to toe with the likes of the Mad Hatter of Iran or Putin of Russia, that she will have no fear in her eyes. We know Obambi will cry like a scared little kid. That is a stereotype that women have to work against, the lack of toughness. What she has to protray is that pitbull with lipstick! She has the physical jaw line to pull that off. She needs to show she has the mettle of Maggie Thatcher. The voters need to know if anything (terrorism) were ever to happen on her watch she would be as fearsome/terrifying as a mother bear protecting her cubs.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Triple.
September 4, 2008 - 11:11 ET by SchnikeysI'll call Palin's speech a triple. Only actions that yield excellent results and are based on conservative values get grand slams and home runs, not speeches.
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I agree with you, however,
September 4, 2008 - 11:19 ET by TuariI agree with you, however, the question was to rate the speech. I rated it a Grand Slam, because she was able to pick up without a teleprompter without missing a heartbeat and make even some left of center commentators (Andrea, Mika) spout praise. The poll was to rate Palin's speech last night, and in that scope it deserves a Grand Slam. Rate Sarah Palin as a whole including speech and actions? We'll know in the coming weeks, I'm aiming my preliminary thoughts high though.
she did use a teleprompter
September 4, 2008 - 12:32 ET by pbdmillerShe did use a teleprompter, but I don't care. I gave her a grandslam. I stayed up way past bedtime to hear this woman and I was very impressed.
Did anyone notice the big deal some media commentators made about "the speech was written for her." Big Deal, like Obama writes his own speeches. Gimme a break! You never hear that point being made when he delivers a good speech.
Bravo, Sarah Palin, Bravo!
It broke
September 4, 2008 - 12:42 ET by ArcherBThey started having problems with the telepropter about halfway through her speech. That's why I gave it a grand slam instead of just a homer.
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Only actions that yield
September 4, 2008 - 11:19 ET by Dan The Man 2Only actions that yield excellent results and are based on conservative values get grand slams and home runs, not speeches - Lame the question was specifically about the speech and from teh MSM comments and look of teh yellow stripes on their backs they are scared. All this makes it a hommer at least. BTW there were no expectations but if there were it would still be a homer.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
The Speech
September 5, 2008 - 17:07 ET by SchnikeysTrust me, Dan- I know that the question was about the speech. But I wasn't willing to give lavish praise over something that people tend to hang onto too much these days.
Did she cover everything necessary? Basically, yes. And that's saying a lot when you take into account most politicians these days. I think she's on the right track, but only the next couple months of campaigning (and- if elected- her performance as VP) will tell.
I also suspect that she is indeed a RINO in some ways- but not NEARLY in as many ways as the majority of Republicans currently serving in the various levels of American government. Nor do I think, when all things are considered, that she is NEARLY as socialist as the vast majority of politicians on both sides of the aisle.
If her speech did the job, then it did the job. There's no need for me to go all bug-eyed and be extra-decorative with my indication of her success. She's not perfect, but she's a hell of a lot closer than most when it comes to politics- and that's why I support her.
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Grand Slam
September 4, 2008 - 11:16 ET by CarlosSMy wife and 30 year old step-daughter watched both the Obama acceptance (Greek temple) speech and Palin's speech last night. Halfway through Obama's they started making fun of all his promises..., halfway through Palin's they were cheering!
Carlos... We were
September 4, 2008 - 11:31 ET by bigtimerCarlos...
We were too!
It is high time the repubs started fighting back against the msm...I have been screaming for this for years, just fight back, politeness has never gained them votes, or got them anywhere, least of all good press...
President started it off the night before adn it has continued on into all of the great speeches last night..plus I watch a lot of the talking head shows and have been so pleased seeing different politico's from our side of the aisle fight back against these talking heads while being interviewed ect...it has been a long time coming...
Thank God for the internet...the people have spoken and the repubs have listened and taken heed, for once!
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How Good?
September 4, 2008 - 11:24 ET by JDWRS: Palin deviated from prepared text: Teleprompter broke
What did not come from memory was winged. And she had total control of the crowd throughout.
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Mornin' JDW... That she
September 4, 2008 - 11:34 ET by bigtimerMornin' JDW...
That she did...and then some...
One of my favorite lines from her was where she was talking about Obama and said "after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet"...
I LOVED that! I laughed so hard....
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There Was So Much
September 4, 2008 - 11:51 ET by JDWMaking cells out of the columns, working with unemployed as a community organizer, he never used the word victory...
It never seemed to end.
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Homerun doesn't do it justice...
September 4, 2008 - 11:24 ET by cjbreischHomerun (or grandslam) doesn't do it justice.
This one hasn't landed yet.
Some moron voted "strike
September 4, 2008 - 11:33 ET by EvokeSome moron voted "strike out"...lol
Can you say poor loser and
September 4, 2008 - 11:36 ET by ontherightCan you say poor loser and "Troll"
You could say that...in the
September 4, 2008 - 11:59 ET by mattmYou could say that...in the sense that she was the pitcher and she struck out the side.
Strikeout>??? You Fail.
September 4, 2008 - 11:34 ET by JOSH R-NYWho's the idiot who voted strikeout? Ban him immediately.
It was a grandslam and beyond personal view and the great aspects and shots at Obama, the speech epitomized everything that this site has been saying since its inception.The media is biased towards the left and they are in the tank for Obam.
Who's the idiot who voted strikeout?
September 4, 2008 - 12:03 ET by RackieMost likely from Detroit. My guess is the mayor's office.
My guess would be
September 4, 2008 - 12:07 ET by acumenPop tech?!?
No acumen
September 4, 2008 - 13:15 ET by bassndudeI think it was Frankie boy. But PT is not out of the realm of possibility.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Rackie... LMAO... Haven'
September 4, 2008 - 12:08 ET by bigtimerRackie...
LMAO...
Haven't they forcibly removed him yet...heheeee
I know about this morning, he must of snuck back in for finishing touches...
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Nobody's Home
September 4, 2008 - 14:08 ET by JDWThere are 40+ 'strikeout' votes yet no one to defend their opinion.
What does that tell you?
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Grandslam!
September 4, 2008 - 11:41 ET by MeanderingThere were a few thing I wanted her to get into, but I suppose that will be left for McCain tonight. Though she is young in the political thing, she did what she needed to do, which is hush the naysayers and tell the media she doesn't care what they think of her. She railled the crowd, and has the base of the party behind her and that's what she needed to do. She showed confidence and strength. Like McCain said, we picked the right person.
To mix metaphors, I would
September 4, 2008 - 11:41 ET by Ruths husband BenTo mix metaphors, I would say that it was a Grandslam, nothing but net, and the extra point was right between the uprights.
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RHB - and do you remember
September 4, 2008 - 13:55 ET by Cape ConservativeI suggested HER just a week or two ago!!!! Hooray for Women!!! Sarah Palin has demonstrated what so many of us ladies who post know - a woman can be a strong woman and not come across as a shrew! She truly made all of us ready to jump up on that stage with her and say YES! So glad we have our nice big screen tv to watch this wonderful, historical occasion!!
My husband and I just returned from the post office where we deposited our envelope - with check enclosed - as our THANK YOU to Senator McCain for listening to his Conservative base.
It was a definite grand slam...
September 4, 2008 - 11:51 ET by goldenthroatRomney, Huckabee and Gulianni were on base when Sarah Barracuda stepped up to the plate and hit it out of the park!
That's a grand slam!
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Car DC2280 Where Are You?
September 4, 2008 - 12:03 ET by CaringwhiteguyWaiting . . . . Waiting . . . . Waiting
Depends on what you're rating
September 4, 2008 - 12:12 ET by BaxterJI gave the delivery high marks, but after looking more closely at what she actually said, there are some problems.
Triple
September 4, 2008 - 12:56 ET by Remixer96I gave it a triple for delivery and the introduction of a formidable opponent for Biden.
The factual errors in the speech though kept me from rating it any higher.
Elaborate on the factual
September 4, 2008 - 13:14 ET by Dan The Man 2Elaborate on the factual errors. You post is cryptic to say the least.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Response
September 4, 2008 - 14:02 ET by Remixer96Among other factual errors:
1) McCain being "the same man" wherever he goes
McCain has shifted positions on a number of positions since his 2000 run for president, namely his stances on Roe v. Wade and immigration policy. Unless you're talking about the literal biological entity (which often doesn't merit "the same man" language), McCain is not the "same man" he was 8 years ago, thus the statement isn't true.
2) Obama hasn't authored a single major law or reform
Obama has worked on and helped pass a number of reforms, notable of which involve ethics reform and nonproliferation. To name one, he worked with Senator Feingold to assemble and pass S203 in the 110th Congress (The "Gold Standard" ethics reform bill), which the Washington Post gave them both credit for. For another, in the state senate he worked to pass HB 672 in 1998 which limited gifts government officials could receive from third parties with a conflict of interest.
Again, I think Palin's presence and delivery were good, but beyond spin, these statements and some others are lies, so I can only appreciate the speech so much.
Remix - according to the
September 4, 2008 - 14:28 ET by HermanoRemix - according to the Library of Congress, S230 (not s.203 as you typed) has only been read into the record. It has not been voted on. I may not have the latest information, but the only action I have seen on it takes place on January 9, 2007. If you can find additional information then I would be interested. After all, we are talking about the potential leader of the free world. It would be nice if he has done something tangible.
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The "bill" The Hopeful
September 4, 2008 - 16:14 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe "bill" The Hopeful Changer "helped lead the Senate to pass" was actually read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, where it died an anonymous and quiet death.
The bill Obama and his discipiles are touting as "spearheaded" was actually co-sponsoered by SEVENTEEN senators, none of whom have the last name Obama.
As Hermano pointed out above, "tangible" work of the Messiah debunked. Next?
McCain being "the same man"
September 4, 2008 - 14:33 ET by Dan The Man 2McCain being "the same man" wherever he goes and he is. I assumed and believe she was talking about the character of the man and the decisions which result from the character. Remember she talked about his POW days and the character McCain displayed. So the same man argument is shot down. McCain has likely shifted on a number of issues in his 72 years as all of us have. But the key is why we have shifted.
And the second one Obama hasn't authored a single major law or reform where the key is authored. And you say worked with Senator Feingold and another was in state where he worked to pass HB 672. The key is he has no experience and has no initiative other rthan to say PRESENT.
And remixer you ghhve one a consolation prize for losing; teh home version of can I present any facts.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
"Unless you're talking
September 4, 2008 - 14:42 ET by ckc1227"Unless you're talking about the literal biological entity (which often
doesn't merit "the same man" language), McCain is not the "same man" he
was 8 years ago, thus the statement isn't true."
She didn't say he was the same man he was 8 years ago, nor did she say he has never changed his views on some things over those 8 years. As was quite clear to anyone who heard the speech, she was referring to shifting positions during one election cycle(hell, one week), such as telling people one thing in Scranton, and another thing in San Francisco.
I gave it a grand slam
September 4, 2008 - 13:37 ET by ConservativeRexI gave it a grand slam because it deserved it. It remains one of the single most historical speeches in these United States history. There were points in it where my wife was unashameadly weeping for joy. My oldest son, currently stationed at Ft Gordon called and was as excited as I have ever heard him, and he's not one to get too worked up about a whole lot after serving in Kosovo, Bosnia and two tours in Iraq.
This is the very first woman on a Republican Presidential ticket, and all of us had the honor to witness it! Yeah, it was a grand slam.
AMEN!
September 4, 2008 - 13:59 ET by Cape ConservativeThis is the very first woman on a Republican Presidential ticket, and all of us had the honor to witness it! Yeah, it was a grand slam.
Now if Senator McCain can just carry through tonight - with POSTIVE - FUTURE "speak" - everyone else has given us the background info - it's time to talk BUSINESS!
Rating Sarah Palin's Speech
September 4, 2008 - 14:02 ET by AvitarCompared to the all time great speeches of history this speech was only a grade 'B' speech, but being graded against FDR's "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself" or Churchhills "the end of the beginning" speech is pretty heady. There is also something that should keep the liberal media up at night. This was a speech scripted so she did not outshine John McCain. She can do better.
Daily Kos Voters
September 4, 2008 - 14:03 ET by jawebster141 Daily Kos voters expressing their opinion of Sarah "Barracuda" Palin is sort of like Harry Reid saying, he can't stand McCain! Not 41 strikeouts, 41 badges of honor!
How did Sarah Palin do?? Just one word...
September 4, 2008 - 14:20 ET by PrairieSkyGRANDSLAM!!! She was awesome!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Chelsea called the Secret Service, "personal, trained pigs."
September 4, 2008 - 14:13 ET by Ted ClarkeI rated this a grandslam because so much was riding on it. If she screwed up or set the wrong tone, then everything afterwards would exist in the shadow of that first impression (like in Hollywood where the opening weekend can make or break a film). She turned the tables so effectively on Obama that his Corrupted Pit Crew Media Goon Squad is panicked. He's now flagged in for repairs with his nuts cradled and reeling. The word "discombobulated" doesn't even begin to cover it.
There are iconic moments in that speech that will not soon be forgotten. Sarah's daughter smoothing down her baby brother's hair with spit. That line about hockey moms being pit bulls with lipstick. And the master stroke of repackaging the term "community organizer" as a national joke (Rush Limbaugh gets the credit for that observation). Contrast that to Obama's and Biden's speeches. They were like twin magic tricks disappearing in a cloud of confetti. The only thing I can remember of them is what Sarah referenced in HER speech.
Speaking of the daughter, she was priceless. All the money, prep and staging in the world couldn't match what she did. She was like a foundry furnace in which all the sharpened media knives melted.
Oh, yeah. And this: Remember that book, "Unlimited Access"? It was written by an FBI agent named Gary Aldrich who was assigned to the Clinton White House. He gave an account of how his partner had attempted to open a door for Hillary, who was carrying a heavy box, when a Residence staffer warned him not to. Apparently it was verboten for men to help her in any way. She gave strict orders for the Secret Service to "stay the f*** away". Like the stellar mother that she is, she passed her undisguised hatred for the men who would take a bullet for her to Chelsea, who called her protectors "personal, trained pigs".
Compare this to Sarah's daughter and her entire family. Differences like this are devistating. The crackup is going to be nasty over there on the Left so we're going to need some protective gear.
The crackup is going to
September 4, 2008 - 14:21 ET by bigtimerThe crackup is going to be nasty over there on the Left so we're going to need some protective gear.
Protective gear indeed Ted...I've got mine at the ready..looking forward to donning the gear too...it's gonna' be a blast!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Protective gear indeed
September 4, 2008 - 14:41 ET by ConservativeRexProtective gear indeed Ted! Well put!
I figure if I stand back far enough I can watch them blow up from my lawn chair. Of course that's just an unprofessional opinion. But I do agree, Safety First!
I have one of those
September 4, 2008 - 15:18 ET by SemperrightI have one of those Gallagher tarps for when thier heads start popping like over-ripe melons during the debates.
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985
The point of this survey is
September 4, 2008 - 14:53 ET by Chris NormanThe point of this survey is specifically about her speech and the point of her speech was to energize the base and so, it was a grandslam. I know that the base here typing this comment was a lot more energized after her speech (and Giuliani's).
McNotObama '08
What Could She Have Done Better?
September 4, 2008 - 15:09 ET by SmartypantsTo the best of my knowledge, I know nothing that Palin could have done better than what she did last night. She delivered an outstanding speech with virtual perfection, and she did so under the heat of tremendous pressure. Sure, she had a friendly audience, but what the media had done to her over the previous week put her in a precarious position. She had to be perfect, or they would have skewered her more. Well, she was perfect. (Sure, they're still trying to ding her here and there, but given her performance, those who crticize that speech are the ones who look like fools.)
Speaking of the speech, she
September 4, 2008 - 15:15 ET by ckc1227Speaking of the speech, she drew 37 million viewers, a million less than Obama....and she was on 4 fewer channels than he was.
Not bad at all.
I think she's good for the ticket, but she has some populist leanings that bug me, so I'm not ready to drink the Palin kool aid. I will vote for the ticket though.
Disrespectful poll
September 4, 2008 - 15:20 ET by Cool ArrowI was looking for HAT TRICK.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
didn't know that many liberals were on this site
September 4, 2008 - 16:33 ET by packmanWhen I voted in this poll, (grandslam!) I noted that a grand total of 61 people had voted for "strikeout." Didn't know that many left-wingers hung around this site. Even if you didn't like what the "Sara-cuda" had to say, you had to admire her poise, her authenticity, her refusal to cave in to the hubristic likes of NBC,CNN, and others of their ilk. In any case, there's no way her speech last night was anything close to a strikeout. Liberals, beware "Sara-cuda, the Artic Fox!"
Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread... ~Thomas Jefferson
Strikeout? We got us some
September 4, 2008 - 17:17 ET by lotrStrikeout? We got us some lefty troll-bots out there.