I've been following this very closely too...this is an outrage...once again the very people who should be counted FIRST are intentionally attempting to be suppressed by the dirty, rotten, filthy leftists in this country...it is beyond despicable, let alone beyond disgrace!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
McCain should have refused to be interviewed and called them PRAVDA
Every campaign speech should have started with"here's what the media refuses to tell you"
Never made this simple statement "People making a million bucks a year are already paying 400G in taxes..that's not enough?"
The rabbit brained populcae who do not rear & live in American Idol, cannot comprehend anything more than that statement
I used that line on 4 of my workers who were pro Obama. They had no idea that a guy that makes a million bucks pays that much. They actually think they pay less than anyone.
Statements like 5% of people (rich) pay 40% of taxes is like asking the populace to understand E=MC2
Remember Algore--saying he wanted every vote to count but then fought counting military absentee ballots from overseas.
I guess you could make a point that the military should be better prepared to handle absentee voting but if any "questionable" votes should count, it should be the military votes.
Shawn dont't believe the polls, plus i'm not sure your getting the zeitgeist of the nation all the way over on the leftist-coast. Remember 2004?
If Zero wins it won't be by a landside and if he loses Pa., he is finished. If he loses Pa., he loses Va., N.C., Ohio and Florida for sure.
Yesterday I was sure he would lose Pa., now with all of the allegations of voter fraud from there getting plastered all over the front page of Drudge, not so sure.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
Yea, and those polls only closed the gap the Sunday before the election. It was a classic CYA moment. This time around is different, they wanna wheel Barry over the finish line in a rickshaw and get us all to stay home.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
I remember you predicted a Reagan style landslide and I remember I told you I could not forget to tell you how right you were. I might have to wait awhile...sorry.
The election will be close but McCain is going to pull it out. I can't wait to see the media pundits as they go into cardiac arrest! It would be hilarious to see them zapping Matthews and Olberman! The riots that will occur when the Messiah loses are what I fear now!
Obama wins pop vote and McCain wins EV. This way cries of stolen election will be shouted so loud. Just wondering out loud. If Barry's team has stuffed the ballot with fate votes what would have stopped him and his team from getting inside the officials that count the votes.
Hopefully or not that the ACORN vote will be canceled by the Die-bole vote.
...but I am so unsure about tonight I get a sinking feeling in m'gut that we will become the USSA very soon. I voted today and waited 1 hour in W. St Louis County. I have seen underdogs win heavy this year though, Fellow Ole Miss Rebel Eli Manning leads the NY Giants to the Super Bowl championship, Fresno State wins Div I Baseball championship, TB Rays make the WS, and for any drum corps fans out there...my Phantom Regiment who were written off 2 weeks from championships and then won by .025 2 weeks later. I have faith, I believe in god, I have prayed to the almighty, but man it just feels like the liberal cat 5+ hurricane could be on path to wipe out us conservatives.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have" -- Gerald Ford
"The course of history shows that as a government grows,liberty decreases..."
Just got a call from the comrade Obama campaign. They called to tell me where to vote. I asked them for whom I should vote and then asked for a ride. They said Obama and offered to pick me up. Ah, the wonders of socialism. I don't know how anyone has survived without government running his life.---- America is in deep soup,folks. Sad.
Unfortunately, my story is true. Heavy minority population in my county. They are giving rides to the "poor". And they are "poor" in so many ways. Comrade Barry, et.al. will keep them that way. Sad.
That is what I was just going to say, he isn't joking this is true, this is being announced via radio station talking heads ect, Obama will come pick you up....go vote for O ect.
I posted on OT about the Black Panthers in Philly this morning one with a night stick intimidating people at the polling place unless they voted for a black man...a marine, white guy, imagine that a racist, called the cops and they removed the guy...but can you imagine the rest of what is going on in the rest of the country...that isn't making the news, it is already sad we have two ex-black panthers in congress as it is, I think it is two now...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
this is so unbelievable - then there was also somewhere in PA where they kicked out Republican poll workers. We are becoming an uncivilized country. Liberals have thrown out all rules of decency. It's all about doing what ever you feel is needed to get the job done.
Did you happen to see early this morning, (my time anyway) msnbc reporting from Kenya with Ron Mott on the celebration they are planning already fo tonight?
Disgusting, my husband hadn't even left for work yet...we were furious! As if this is a given....
Can you imagine what Al Queda is going to be doing, along with the rest of the world dictators and filth....
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
listening to Rush right now and then the radio is going off too. I don't want to hear any of their bull.
I'm going out to dinner and a movie tonight so that I'm not tempted to turn anything on. I'll get home around 9:30 or 10:00 and I'm hoping I can still resist until tomorrow morning. If by chance Obama wins I don't want to watch any of those hate mongers celebrating.
If he does win there will be dancing in the streets of Pakistan & Iran (the same as after 9/11) and all over the world which is bad enough, but I don't want to see one bit of that Chicago spectacle.
I still have faith that the American people will vote for McCain in large enough numbers to overcome all the voter fraud, but it's impossible to know for sure, so I'm not subjecting myself to it.
I wish I could come here, but unfortunately I know the liberals will be out. I liked Dave's idea to have a 1 day ban on them. It won't happen though so after 4:00 or 5:00 I'm not coming anywhere near here either.
Hey Dee...you aren't alone...I am not going to be getting anywhere near here either after my husband gets home, and I won't listen to the television either anymore for quite a few hours, after Rush I will listen to Dobbs or Hannity...I am sick of the msm...I have had enough after a few hours this morning.
I moat likely won't be here tomorrow either depending on what happens tonight....plus I am keeping the phone off...messages only.
We are getting our first snow here today, so I am trying to look at that as a good Omen...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
From my perch at the Montgomery County (Texas) GOP Headquarters in Conroe, Texas, and from the polls and such I've been looking at when I haven't been running the computer, I'll call it too close to call.
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
Obamunism will be widely rejected today by Americans who still value their freedoms!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
I'll try posting this again, I am having problems here this morning...anyway, I picked the second choice....I have never seen anything in my life like I have since early this morning on television, especially msnbc...they may as well already crown Obama and party on...especially the giddy Mika B. it has sickened me....
I Just heard Haley Barbour put it well, this is the longest wet kiss I have ever seen, regarding the msm and Obama...
He said it ALL!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
I caught some of MSNBC's coverage this morning and was sick to my stomach. MSNBC, along with its sister "nutworks", have thrown any shred of credibility along the way down the sewer with its toadying to Mr. Obama.
If Mr. Obama wins tonight, the MSM will be beside itself with glee, fawning over "history" and all other kinds of rubbish. Worse still, they'll be preaching to us about how great and accurate polls are. I don't know who'll be actually worse - Mr. Obama or the MSM!
Both are equally damaging to the USA...but the msm is the worst in my opinion, since they have put both candidates in where they are now in my opinion...
If Obama wins tonight and the msm calls it early for Obama before the rest of the nation has voted, like they will, I am making drinks...and hopefully passing out early...haven't had a hang-over in years...but I will tomorrow.
Btw...I never thought I would ever experience anything worse with the msm... the Clinton Machine and his reelection...this is the mother of them all...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
It's something we are already used to, main stream press fawning over Obama's messianic messages. After four years of failed Obaman policies, will they still be fawning over his scandalous mess? That should send a tingle up Chrissy Matthews butt.
...who are out of work and collecting unemployment benefit checks whether they are against socialism? Those dang socialists and their safety nets for everyone! Damn them to hell!(sarc on)
unemployment benefit checks - Are paid for through worker contributions. The key is if you have not worked you cant collect and you only collect a small amount. It is insurance taht is paid for by teh worker. It is not welfare which is what you want. There is a difference Uber.
It is also not forever and should not be, whereas welfare handouts are.
Are you saying the worker should pay into a system creating a "safety net" for all workers who find themselves out of a job? Hmmm...Was this idea created by the owners of businesses or the unions of workers who worked for the businesses? You can't have it both ways, Dan. Either you're for or against "safety nets".
Your arrogance is only superceded by your ignorance.
Dan was neither saying he was in favor or against, only clarifying how it works.
Furthermore, unemployment does have finality. It is intended to assist people while they find another job; it is not intended to be life support. Also, if you get FIRED, you are not eligible for unemployment; that has to do with personal responsibility.
If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Obama's proposals are, by definition, NOT for the betterment of everyone. He has:
explicitly targeted "the rich", whomever they may actually turn out to be, for a tax soaking.
proposed to increase capital gains on principle residences to 40%.
proposed to nationalize all health care, thereby taking care away from some of those who have earned it to give it to some of those who did not earn it.
proposed to revive the 'fairness doctrine' to censor political opponents.
explicity stated he will abandon support for Israel and instead support the Muslims.
impose a carbon cap and trade scheme which economists conservatively estimate will double the cost of electricty in America.
continue the oil production ban.
continue government subsidy of failed alternative fuels plans.
continue government subsidies of failed alternative electricity schemes.
proposed amnesty for all illegal aliens.
If he accomplishes all of the above, we should see the following effects: Israel destroyed by a Nuclear attack, a major depression, and tghe extinction of political and economic liberty in America. But fools like you label all this as the betterment of everyone.
Obama's proposals are, by definition, for the betterment of everyone. He has:
explicitly targeted the top 5% of the population (>$250k/year) for an increase of 3% in their taxes.
proposed to increase capital gains on principle residences to 40%. Capital gains taxes are a non-issue for the majority of Americans.
proposed to nationalize all health care insurance, thereby taking care away
from some of those who have earned it to give it to some of those who did not earn it.- Are you kidding? You should never have to earn health care. 300 million Americans as a group should be able to compete for better Health Insurance.
proposed to revive the 'fairness doctrine' to censor political opponents.- Fair and Balanced is what you want correct?
explicity stated he will abandon support for Israel and instead support the Muslims.- Uh-oh, sounds like he's a Mooslim instead of a Christian
impose a carbon cap and trade scheme which economists conservatively estimate will double the cost of electricty in America.-McCain supports this also.
continue the oil production ban.-Obama supports limited oil production.
continue government subsidy of failed alternative fuels plans.-Think Pickens.
continue government subsidies of failed alternative electricity schemes.-Think Pickens.
proposed amnesty for all illegal aliens.-McCain is McAmnesty.
If he accomplishes all of the above, we should see the following
effects: Israel destroyed by a Nuclear attack(Really?), a major depression(Thanks to Bush), and
the extinction of political and economic liberty in America(only the shrinking of social conservative platforms). But
fools like you label all this as the betterment of everyone.-Change is here...A rising tide floats all ships, unless you continue to cling to the anchor of the GOP party boat.
Übercon
Seriously, your reality is "uberconian" Schadenfreude!
What don't you understand about the word, 'everyone'? Everyone is just that, everyone, no exceptions. If Obama's programs hurt ANYONE, then they are not for the betterment of everyone.
I have clearly shown that his programs will harm literally millions. Therefore the proposition that his programs are for the betterment of everyone is simply false.
Gosh...it's gotta be this or that and nothing in between for you and the rest. Will his programs actually "hurt" the top 5% of the population? Will they become destitute and seen in bread lines? Will they fall through the cracks and become the "40%" of the population that does not pay into the system? Will they lose the security and freedoms they enjoy now? It's painful to watch you twist this tax increase on the top 5% into something so painful for the middle class, yet, they will benefit the most. It's okay, if it goes well, you'll be fine. If it doesn't, the Dems will still be able to blame the Repubs for the problems Bush created...Nothing like blaming a minority...the GOP knows all to well how it works...
Make the end result fit what you want to believe is true. Sorry, vrwc, as I read the article I saw right through the mistakes of flawed reasoning. It's fun trying to prove a point by way of an flawed way of thinking...it's still flawed. I pointed out the mathematical errors in his argument, what would you like me to see...WMD's buried in the Iraqi sand by way of your x-ray glasses?
Every problem in our country can be traced back to some liberal roots. Some of us are smart enough to see it and then others drink the kool-aid. This election will be a mandate on Socialism and America will reject it! God bless America!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
Every current problem in our country can be traced back to some conservative roots.
Some of us are smart enough to see it and then others drink the
kool-aid. This election will be a mandate on Social Conservationism and America
will reject it! God bless America!
Übercon
Seriously, your reality is "uberconian" Schadenfreude!
The only people who want Obamunist the "Wealth Spreader" are the welfare folks. My American dream has no place for a government dictating the level of success I am allowed to achieve! No thanks! Obamunism will be rejected!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
It will only hurt 5% of the population? Where have we heard that malarkey before?
The entire point of the US Constitution is to limit the authority of government such that a majority of the people are unable to use government sanctioned force to bully or damage a minority of the population. The the extent Obama proposes to do this, he is a tyrant. To the extent you agree with him, you are also a tyrant. Sic semper tyrannis.
Beyond the issue of tyranny, it is simple nonsense to suppose that Obama's destructive program is going to harm only 5% of the populace. It is naive to suppose it will provide a net benefit to 95% of the populace. Obama is like every other Marxist to come before him: the enemy of the people.
A case in point: Obama's nationalized healthcare program MUST by definition, RATION, healthcare. Why? Because the present capacity is short by about 6% for prevention, etc. Those 6% are at present working poor. [the indigent are fully provided for by welfare]. The Obama plan will not provide one iota of new healthcare services. It will redistribute those that exist already. Perforce, to provide anything for those 6%, something must be taken, by force, from those who have paid for it themselves. Waiting lists. Rationing. Denial of services. Direct harm AT RANDOM to the vast majority who pay for their own care.
Obama's economic plan is even worse. I'll let you think about that for a moment.
the only thing we will ever agree on Uber, but I got Barry by 7 1/2 in the popular vote. I think the electoral college will be close, but Barry comes out on top. Far from a landslide, but a win is all it takes for them to have their "mandate" from the people.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Disenfranchised democrats will decide this election. The republican base is united, the democrats are not. History will reveal that Barack Obama lost this race the day he chose his VP. Had he picked Hillary the race would have been over long ago. Millions of lifelong democrats are voting for McCain in this election. Pay no attention to exit polls and don't watch the television today. Tomorrow when the propaganda smoke clears, the real president will be revealed. Let me start early:
Sarah Palin for Pres in 2012! Where do I send my contribution? LOL
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
Comrades. Looks like Barry will win. We really need to start preparing. Drop all subscriptions to newspapers and magzines. Boycott the sponsors who advertise on the MSM. When you write to them--greet them as Comrade. When you write to Congress---greet them as Comrade. Many other ways to protest. Think about it.
Turn off your TV today. Go vote and then stay away from all media outlets until tomorrow. It's not over until we say it is!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
Florida (Broward County, specificially) has been so totally toasted, first by the hanging/pregnant chads of the 2000 election, then by those replacement electronic machines in 2004.....so here is how I voted today.
I waited in line for two and half hours. My id was checked, scanned, and apparently verified against the state database. I signed an electronic pad. I was then given a slip of paper with my name, addy, date of birth, party designation, and a facsimile of my electronic signature. Then I went to another table. I was given a pink pre-numbered (as opposed to green) slip of paper to sign again.
Then I was given a four page, larger than legal size, front and back ballot, a clipboard, and a pen. I proceeded to bubble in my choices. After a few minutes, one of FIVE voting "tables" (with privacy sides) opened up and I finished bubbling in my ballot. I then proceeded to a machine and fed, one by one, the pages of the ballot.
I ask you, is this any way to run a railroad? They could have had a room with fifty or a hundred places to vote, with the same number of poll workers. Granted, I understand the need to restrict the access to the ballots, but 5 people at a time?
Now, for the good news. Only McC signs at the polling place, several of the voters had on McC shirts, and the pink slip stubs outnumbered the green ones by about five to one. Of course, this is EASTERN Broward....all the Obamamamas are out west, so this county will go heavily dem. Also, there were no "pollsters" for me to lie to, either.
And on a funny note, my neighbor drove up and we chatted for a bit....her second trip to check the lines. She left and decided to come back later. So if Obama wins by one vote here, I know who to blame! (Yeah, I called her when I got home, the line is now down).
Hey Blonde, 3 minutes or so for me. Why the heck would election officials visibly designate voters by party at the station, if that is indeed what they were doing? Is this happening all over FL? Seems like a bad idea to me.
They've been segretating us by party here as long as I can remember. Before the ID swiping (driver's license required) thing, you walked in, and there were two tables, Republican and Democrat (maybe 3...Independent?)....where you walked up to the appropriate sign A - F, G - R, etc.
I would imagine it IS happening all over Florida.
Oh yeah, after they swipe your ID, you have to verbally TELL them what your addy is. So I am glad about that part of the process....they are verifying that you are who you say you are. But the rest of it (bubbling in the ballot 5 people at a time) was nuts!
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McCain by 5% and
November 4, 2008 - 11:36 ET by BlazerMcCain by 5% and more...........the legal vote that is.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
VA vet vote
November 4, 2008 - 12:17 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsHey Blazer, wasn't it you that said VA was trying to trash the military vote? Here's a blurb about that.
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Yep, in Obamas America,
November 4, 2008 - 12:36 ET by BlazerYep, in Obamas America, soldiers don't get to vote,...... but un-repentant terrorists do.
http://www.youtube.c...
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I've been following this
November 4, 2008 - 12:43 ET by bigtimerI've been following this very closely too...this is an outrage...once again the very people who should be counted FIRST are intentionally attempting to be suppressed by the dirty, rotten, filthy leftists in this country...it is beyond despicable, let alone beyond disgrace!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
McCain didn;t c all them out...he screwed up huge...read....
November 4, 2008 - 13:34 ET by political mavenMcCain should have refused to be interviewed and called them PRAVDA
Every campaign speech should have started with"here's what the media refuses to tell you"
Never made this simple statement "People making a million bucks a year are already paying 400G in taxes..that's not enough?"
The rabbit brained populcae who do not rear & live in American Idol, cannot comprehend anything more than that statement
I used that line on 4 of my workers who were pro Obama. They had no idea that a guy that makes a million bucks pays that much. They actually think they pay less than anyone.
Statements like 5% of people (rich) pay 40% of taxes is like asking the populace to understand E=MC2
Choices
November 4, 2008 - 14:15 ET by 1uncle1uncle
There is an e-mail going around now about the jews asking Samuel
for a king and god telling Samuel what will and did happen to them.
Nobama is not the right choice unless you are ready to do anything for a bigger welfare check.
Remember Algore--saying he
November 4, 2008 - 15:32 ET by FishFace222Remember Algore--saying he wanted every vote to count but then fought counting military absentee ballots from overseas.
I guess you could make a point that the military should be better prepared to handle absentee voting but if any "questionable" votes should count, it should be the military votes.
Nice quote
November 4, 2008 - 13:15 ET by guttermouthToo bad George Lucas endorsed Obama.
Forgive him, Marin County
November 4, 2008 - 20:06 ET by SRPwrdForgive him, Marin County does that to everyone.
Shawn's predictions
November 4, 2008 - 11:39 ET by shawn228....have not changed from yesterday
Obama will win with over 300 electoral votes
The house will add 15 more Democrats
The senate will add more Dems, but will fall 2 short of 60
Mr. Shy will have to admit Shawn is right.
Clear Thinker will owe Shawn a dollar.
If I am wrong, I will humbly admit it with no excuses, but i do not think I will be.
He's got my vote
Shawn dont't believe the
November 4, 2008 - 11:48 ET by BlazerShawn dont't believe the polls, plus i'm not sure your getting the zeitgeist of the nation all the way over on the leftist-coast. Remember 2004?
If Zero wins it won't be by a landside and if he loses Pa., he is finished. If he loses Pa., he loses Va., N.C., Ohio and Florida for sure.
Yesterday I was sure he would lose Pa., now with all of the allegations of voter fraud from there getting plastered all over the front page of Drudge, not so sure.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Remember 2004?
November 4, 2008 - 11:54 ET by shawn228I sure do Blazer, and the only major polls that had Kerry in front which was by the most 2 points was one that I never heard of and FOX news
He's got my vote
Yea, and those polls only
November 4, 2008 - 12:05 ET by BlazerYea, and those polls only closed the gap the Sunday before the election. It was a classic CYA moment. This time around is different, they wanna wheel Barry over the finish line in a rickshaw and get us all to stay home.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I was going to be nice.
November 4, 2008 - 12:17 ET by JWFBut Shawn forgot me.
The rage meter is pegged. That is because I have been paying attention for the last 2 years.
A lot of other people are high on the rage meter.
There is a lot of anger out there at Sen. Obama's marxism and the media's covering for him.
I am still thinking Sen. McCain by a large margin.
Shame on Shame1492 sailing teh ocean blue for forgetting me.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Sorry I forgot about you JWF
November 5, 2008 - 09:59 ET by shawn228I remember you predicted a Reagan style landslide and I remember I told you I could not forget to tell you how right you were. I might have to wait awhile...sorry.
Oh I can't forget this post either:-)
He's got my vote
It'd have to be a landslide for McCain
November 4, 2008 - 11:40 ET by Saint Zerobefore the media would let it go. The demoncrats have had eight years to stew in their hate. one election won't do.
McCain with less than 5%
November 4, 2008 - 11:55 ET by GeneralAlThe election will be close but McCain is going to pull it out. I can't wait to see the media pundits as they go into cardiac arrest! It would be hilarious to see them zapping Matthews and Olberman! The riots that will occur when the Messiah loses are what I fear now!
Split vote
November 4, 2008 - 12:02 ET by TjexciteObama wins pop vote and McCain wins EV. This way cries of stolen election will be shouted so loud. Just wondering out loud. If Barry's team has stuffed the ballot with fate votes what would have stopped him and his team from getting inside the officials that count the votes.
Hopefully or not that the ACORN vote will be canceled by the Die-bole vote.
McCain/Palin '08
Trying to keep the faith...
November 4, 2008 - 12:43 ET by tonyflo04...but I am so unsure about tonight I get a sinking feeling in m'gut that we will become the USSA very soon. I voted today and waited 1 hour in W. St Louis County. I have seen underdogs win heavy this year though, Fellow Ole Miss Rebel Eli Manning leads the NY Giants to the Super Bowl championship, Fresno State wins Div I Baseball championship, TB Rays make the WS, and for any drum corps fans out there...my Phantom Regiment who were written off 2 weeks from championships and then won by .025 2 weeks later. I have faith, I believe in god, I have prayed to the almighty, but man it just feels like the liberal cat 5+ hurricane could be on path to wipe out us conservatives.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have" -- Gerald Ford
"The course of history shows that as a government grows,liberty decreases..."
Phone call
November 4, 2008 - 12:59 ET by iveseenitallJust got a call from the comrade Obama campaign. They called to tell me where to vote. I asked them for whom I should vote and then asked for a ride. They said Obama and offered to pick me up. Ah, the wonders of socialism. I don't know how anyone has survived without government running his life.---- America is in deep soup,folks. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
that's great Iveseen! I love it
November 4, 2008 - 13:02 ET by Dee BunkI'm sure you are joking but people should really do that! Make them give you a ride and then vote for McCain.
Dee
November 4, 2008 - 13:08 ET by iveseenitallUnfortunately, my story is true. Heavy minority population in my county. They are giving rides to the "poor". And they are "poor" in so many ways. Comrade Barry, et.al. will keep them that way. Sad.
Never,Never trust a "liberal"
"Comrade Barry, et.al. will keep them that way. Sad."
November 4, 2008 - 13:12 ET by vrwc13...not true...have you seen this!
Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! h/t Drudge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
Unfortunately, it's not obama who is going to pay for her gas and mortgage...but us.
v
Regardless of who sits in the Whitehouse, I know who still sits on His throne in heaven
Dee/isia/Black Panthers
November 4, 2008 - 13:55 ET by bigtimerDee/isia...
That is what I was just going to say, he isn't joking this is true, this is being announced via radio station talking heads ect, Obama will come pick you up....go vote for O ect.
I posted on OT about the Black Panthers in Philly this morning one with a night stick intimidating people at the polling place unless they voted for a black man...a marine, white guy, imagine that a racist, called the cops and they removed the guy...but can you imagine the rest of what is going on in the rest of the country...that isn't making the news, it is already sad we have two ex-black panthers in congress as it is, I think it is two now...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hi BT - I'm sure the media won't report it either
November 4, 2008 - 14:05 ET by Dee Bunkthis is so unbelievable - then there was also somewhere in PA where they kicked out Republican poll workers. We are becoming an uncivilized country. Liberals have thrown out all rules of decency. It's all about doing what ever you feel is needed to get the job done.
Dee... Did you happen to
November 4, 2008 - 14:14 ET by bigtimerDee...
Did you happen to see early this morning, (my time anyway) msnbc reporting from Kenya with Ron Mott on the celebration they are planning already fo tonight?
Disgusting, my husband hadn't even left for work yet...we were furious! As if this is a given....
Can you imagine what Al Queda is going to be doing, along with the rest of the world dictators and filth....
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT - I'm keeping the TV off
November 4, 2008 - 15:10 ET by Dee Bunklistening to Rush right now and then the radio is going off too. I don't want to hear any of their bull.
I'm going out to dinner and a movie tonight so that I'm not tempted to turn anything on. I'll get home around 9:30 or 10:00 and I'm hoping I can still resist until tomorrow morning. If by chance Obama wins I don't want to watch any of those hate mongers celebrating.
If he does win there will be dancing in the streets of Pakistan & Iran (the same as after 9/11) and all over the world which is bad enough, but I don't want to see one bit of that Chicago spectacle.
I still have faith that the American people will vote for McCain in large enough numbers to overcome all the voter fraud, but it's impossible to know for sure, so I'm not subjecting myself to it.
I wish I could come here, but unfortunately I know the liberals will be out. I liked Dave's idea to have a 1 day ban on them. It won't happen though so after 4:00 or 5:00 I'm not coming anywhere near here either.
Hey Dee...you aren't
November 4, 2008 - 16:10 ET by bigtimerHey Dee...you aren't alone...I am not going to be getting anywhere near here either after my husband gets home, and I won't listen to the television either anymore for quite a few hours, after Rush I will listen to Dobbs or Hannity...I am sick of the msm...I have had enough after a few hours this morning.
I moat likely won't be here tomorrow either depending on what happens tonight....plus I am keeping the phone off...messages only.
We are getting our first snow here today, so I am trying to look at that as a good Omen...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Glad to hear it BT
November 4, 2008 - 16:36 ET by Dee BunkNo point in getting ourselves more aggravated
From my perch at the
November 4, 2008 - 12:50 ET by Lord ElicaniFrom my perch at the Montgomery County (Texas) GOP Headquarters in Conroe, Texas, and from the polls and such I've been looking at when I haven't been running the computer, I'll call it too close to call.
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
Freedom Always Wins
November 4, 2008 - 13:38 ET by BigSpoon65BigSpoon65
Obamunism will be widely rejected today by Americans who still value their freedoms!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
I'll try posting this
November 4, 2008 - 12:53 ET by bigtimerI'll try posting this again, I am having problems here this morning...anyway, I picked the second choice....I have never seen anything in my life like I have since early this morning on television, especially msnbc...they may as well already crown Obama and party on...especially the giddy Mika B. it has sickened me....
I Just heard Haley Barbour put it well, this is the longest wet kiss I have ever seen, regarding the msm and Obama...
He said it ALL!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
MSNBC: disgraceful
November 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by Mary Louise TurnerI caught some of MSNBC's coverage this morning and was sick to my stomach. MSNBC, along with its sister "nutworks", have thrown any shred of credibility along the way down the sewer with its toadying to Mr. Obama.
If Mr. Obama wins tonight, the MSM will be beside itself with glee, fawning over "history" and all other kinds of rubbish. Worse still, they'll be preaching to us about how great and accurate polls are. I don't know who'll be actually worse - Mr. Obama or the MSM!
MLT... Both are equally
November 4, 2008 - 13:33 ET by bigtimerMLT...
Both are equally damaging to the USA...but the msm is the worst in my opinion, since they have put both candidates in where they are now in my opinion...
If Obama wins tonight and the msm calls it early for Obama before the rest of the nation has voted, like they will, I am making drinks...and hopefully passing out early...haven't had a hang-over in years...but I will tomorrow.
Btw...I never thought I would ever experience anything worse with the msm... the Clinton Machine and his reelection...this is the mother of them all...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Get used to MSM loves Obama fest
November 4, 2008 - 13:50 ET by semolina_filcherIt's something we are already used to, main stream press fawning over Obama's messianic messages. After four years of failed Obaman policies, will they still be fawning over his scandalous mess? That should send a tingle up Chrissy Matthews butt.
More than 5%...Obama.
November 4, 2008 - 13:04 ET by UberconLandslide victory with an actual honest-to-God mandate from the people to change this country for the betterment of EVERYONE!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Obamessiah ???
November 4, 2008 - 13:11 ET by LionKingSo, Obama plans to punish the successful and reward the lazy.
How does this work when everyone decides to become lazy?
[ Anyone seen the moving Idiocracy ? ]
How about asking some of your conservative friends...
November 4, 2008 - 13:29 ET by UberconLionKing,
...who are out of work and collecting unemployment benefit checks whether they are against socialism? Those dang socialists and their safety nets for everyone! Damn them to hell!(sarc on)
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
unemployment benefit checks
November 4, 2008 - 14:02 ET by Dan The Man 2unemployment benefit checks - Are paid for through worker contributions. The key is if you have not worked you cant collect and you only collect a small amount. It is insurance taht is paid for by teh worker. It is not welfare which is what you want. There is a difference Uber.
It is also not forever and should not be, whereas welfare handouts are.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Dan...tsk,tsk,tsk...
November 4, 2008 - 14:11 ET by UberconDan,
Are you saying the worker should pay into a system creating a "safety net" for all workers who find themselves out of a job? Hmmm...Was this idea created by the owners of businesses or the unions of workers who worked for the businesses? You can't have it both ways, Dan. Either you're for or against "safety nets".
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
ubercon...
November 4, 2008 - 14:35 ET by LionKingYour arrogance is only superceded by your ignorance.
Dan was neither saying he was in favor or against, only clarifying how it works.
Furthermore, unemployment does have finality. It is intended to assist people while they find another job; it is not intended to be life support. Also, if you get FIRED, you are not eligible for unemployment; that has to do with personal responsibility.
It's the law, Uber
November 4, 2008 - 14:44 ET by BlondeSo you're advocating breaking the law, eh? Nice.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Ask the socialists
November 4, 2008 - 17:49 ET by CobraManWhy don't you ask the former socialists in Russia if they like socialism? I bet the answer would be NO!
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
Why don't you ask the former socialists in Russia if they like..
November 4, 2008 - 18:00 ET by vrwc13Why don't you ask the former socialists in Russia if they like socialism?
I did and they don't.
Spent over a year living in a Russian city of over a half million people.
Socialism sucked: by their accounts and by my observations:
v
"Landslide victory with an
November 4, 2008 - 13:16 ET by Blazer"Landslide victory with an actual honest-to-God mandate from the people to change this country for the bereavement of EVERYONE!"
There, I fixed it for you.
By the way, mandate? I think you meant manifesto.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blaze... Just wanted to
November 4, 2008 - 13:36 ET by bigtimerBlaze...
Just wanted to thank you for fixing that horrendous mistake by good ol' Ub.
It was much needed.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Obama's proposals are, by
November 4, 2008 - 13:17 ET by NL207Obama's proposals are, by definition, NOT for the betterment of everyone. He has:
If he accomplishes all of the above, we should see the following effects: Israel destroyed by a Nuclear attack, a major depression, and tghe extinction of political and economic liberty in America. But fools like you label all this as the betterment of everyone.
Now, now, now...let's get it right....
November 4, 2008 - 13:57 ET by UberconNL207,
Obama's proposals are, by definition, for the betterment of everyone. He has:
from some of those who have earned it to give it to some of those who
did not earn it.- Are you kidding? You should never have to earn health care. 300 million Americans as a group should be able to compete for better Health Insurance.
If he accomplishes all of the above, we should see the following
effects: Israel destroyed by a Nuclear attack(Really?), a major depression(Thanks to Bush), and
the extinction of political and economic liberty in America(only the shrinking of social conservative platforms). But
fools like you label all this as the betterment of everyone.-Change is here...A rising tide floats all ships, unless you continue to cling to the anchor of the GOP party boat.
Übercon
Seriously, your reality is "uberconian" Schadenfreude!
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
What don't you understand
November 4, 2008 - 15:42 ET by NL207What don't you understand about the word, 'everyone'? Everyone is just that, everyone, no exceptions. If Obama's programs hurt ANYONE, then they are not for the betterment of everyone.
I have clearly shown that his programs will harm literally millions. Therefore the proposition that his programs are for the betterment of everyone is simply false.
point mine. You lose.
If Obama's programs hurt ANYONE, then they are not...
November 4, 2008 - 16:09 ET by vrwc13If Obama's programs hurt ANYONE, then they are not for the betterment of everyone.
I think his point is "everyone" is better off.
v
How about 95% of the population?
November 4, 2008 - 16:12 ET by UberconNL207,
Gosh...it's gotta be this or that and nothing in between for you and the rest. Will his programs actually "hurt" the top 5% of the population? Will they become destitute and seen in bread lines? Will they fall through the cracks and become the "40%" of the population that does not pay into the system? Will they lose the security and freedoms they enjoy now? It's painful to watch you twist this tax increase on the top 5% into something so painful for the middle class, yet, they will benefit the most. It's okay, if it goes well, you'll be fine. If it doesn't, the Dems will still be able to blame the Repubs for the problems Bush created...Nothing like blaming a minority...the GOP knows all to well how it works...
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Ub...never heard this one before?
November 4, 2008 - 16:17 ET by vrwc13http://mindinggap.blogspot.com/2008/02/lunch-room-economics.html
...whether it's tax breaks or tax increases, the end is the same...
Think about that for awhile.
v
Regardless of who sits in the Whitehouse, I know who still sits on His throne in heaven
Ummm...
November 4, 2008 - 16:32 ET by Uberconvrwc,
Math is not his forte. His equation is flawed. The percentages are on display. 1%, 3%, 7%, 12%, 18% and 59%(wow, nice guy!)...
For a reduction in the total bill of 20%, each payer would have a 20% reduction in their expenditures...80 cents, $2.40, $5.60...to $47.20.
Flawed set-up...flawed results.
Learning is hard!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Uber, pick one...
November 4, 2008 - 16:46 ET by vrwc13v
Regardless of who sits in the Whitehouse, I know who still sits on His throne in heaven
Just like Bush's flawed policies...
November 4, 2008 - 17:04 ET by Uberconvrwc,
Make the end result fit what you want to believe is true. Sorry, vrwc, as I read the article I saw right through the mistakes of flawed reasoning. It's fun trying to prove a point by way of an flawed way of thinking...it's still flawed. I pointed out the mathematical errors in his argument, what would you like me to see...WMD's buried in the Iraqi sand by way of your x-ray glasses?
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Ubercon...I understand...
November 4, 2008 - 17:30 ET by vrwc13...I guess taht means you pick:
Thanks for playing!
v
Regardless of who sits in the Whitehouse, I know who still sits on His throne in heaven
Americans Will Reject Obamunism Today
November 4, 2008 - 16:48 ET by BigSpoon65BigSpoon65
Every problem in our country can be traced back to some liberal roots. Some of us are smart enough to see it and then others drink the kool-aid. This election will be a mandate on Socialism and America will reject it! God bless America!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
BS65... Sure hope you are
November 4, 2008 - 17:04 ET by bigtimerBS65...
Sure hope you are right! ;-)
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
How about...America rejects the GOP?
November 4, 2008 - 17:10 ET by UberconBS,
Every current problem in our country can be traced back to some conservative roots.
Some of us are smart enough to see it and then others drink the
kool-aid. This election will be a mandate on Social Conservationism and America
will reject it! God bless America!
Übercon
Seriously, your reality is "uberconian" Schadenfreude!
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Obamunism or Freedom
November 4, 2008 - 17:22 ET by BigSpoon65BigSpoon65
The only people who want Obamunist the "Wealth Spreader" are the welfare folks. My American dream has no place for a government dictating the level of success I am allowed to achieve! No thanks! Obamunism will be rejected!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
It will only hurt 5% of the
November 4, 2008 - 16:31 ET by NL207It will only hurt 5% of the population? Where have we heard that malarkey before?
The entire point of the US Constitution is to limit the authority of government such that a majority of the people are unable to use government sanctioned force to bully or damage a minority of the population. The the extent Obama proposes to do this, he is a tyrant. To the extent you agree with him, you are also a tyrant. Sic semper tyrannis.
Beyond the issue of tyranny, it is simple nonsense to suppose that Obama's destructive program is going to harm only 5% of the populace. It is naive to suppose it will provide a net benefit to 95% of the populace. Obama is like every other Marxist to come before him: the enemy of the people.
A case in point: Obama's nationalized healthcare program MUST by definition, RATION, healthcare. Why? Because the present capacity is short by about 6% for prevention, etc. Those 6% are at present working poor. [the indigent are fully provided for by welfare]. The Obama plan will not provide one iota of new healthcare services. It will redistribute those that exist already. Perforce, to provide anything for those 6%, something must be taken, by force, from those who have paid for it themselves. Waiting lists. Rationing. Denial of services. Direct harm AT RANDOM to the vast majority who pay for their own care.
Obama's economic plan is even worse. I'll let you think about that for a moment.
Sound familiar?
November 4, 2008 - 13:59 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsHmmm, a charismatic speaker who promised the people change and says he will make the rich pay their fair share. Who was that?
Oh, that's right, the progressive socialist Adolph Hitler.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Probably
November 4, 2008 - 17:34 ET by HillbillyKingthe only thing we will ever agree on Uber, but I got Barry by 7 1/2 in the popular vote. I think the electoral college will be close, but Barry comes out on top. Far from a landslide, but a win is all it takes for them to have their "mandate" from the people.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
P-U-M-A' s (Party Unity My Ass) Will Decide Election
November 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by BigSpoon65BigSpoon65
Disenfranchised democrats will decide this election. The republican base is united, the democrats are not. History will reveal that Barack Obama lost this race the day he chose his VP. Had he picked Hillary the race would have been over long ago. Millions of lifelong democrats are voting for McCain in this election. Pay no attention to exit polls and don't watch the television today. Tomorrow when the propaganda smoke clears, the real president will be revealed. Let me start early:
Sarah Palin for Pres in 2012! Where do I send my contribution? LOL
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
Comrades!
November 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by iveseenitallComrades. Looks like Barry will win. We really need to start preparing. Drop all subscriptions to newspapers and magzines. Boycott the sponsors who advertise on the MSM. When you write to them--greet them as Comrade. When you write to Congress---greet them as Comrade. Many other ways to protest. Think about it.
Never,Never trust a "liberal"
Don't Jump iveseenitall
November 4, 2008 - 13:36 ET by BigSpoon65BigSpoon65
Turn off your TV today. Go vote and then stay away from all media outlets until tomorrow. It's not over until we say it is!
Thomas Jefferson~ "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them".
Well, I just got back from voting
November 4, 2008 - 14:56 ET by BlondeWelcome to 1976 folks.
Florida (Broward County, specificially) has been so totally toasted, first by the hanging/pregnant chads of the 2000 election, then by those replacement electronic machines in 2004.....so here is how I voted today.
I waited in line for two and half hours. My id was checked, scanned, and apparently verified against the state database. I signed an electronic pad. I was then given a slip of paper with my name, addy, date of birth, party designation, and a facsimile of my electronic signature. Then I went to another table. I was given a pink pre-numbered (as opposed to green) slip of paper to sign again.
Then I was given a four page, larger than legal size, front and back ballot, a clipboard, and a pen. I proceeded to bubble in my choices. After a few minutes, one of FIVE voting "tables" (with privacy sides) opened up and I finished bubbling in my ballot. I then proceeded to a machine and fed, one by one, the pages of the ballot.
I ask you, is this any way to run a railroad? They could have had a room with fifty or a hundred places to vote, with the same number of poll workers. Granted, I understand the need to restrict the access to the ballots, but 5 people at a time?
Now, for the good news. Only McC signs at the polling place, several of the voters had on McC shirts, and the pink slip stubs outnumbered the green ones by about five to one. Of course, this is EASTERN Broward....all the Obamamamas are out west, so this county will go heavily dem. Also, there were no "pollsters" for me to lie to, either.
And on a funny note, my neighbor drove up and we chatted for a bit....her second trip to check the lines. She left and decided to come back later. So if Obama wins by one vote here, I know who to blame! (Yeah, I called her when I got home, the line is now down).
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Hey Blonde, 3 minutes or so
November 4, 2008 - 15:01 ET by HermanoHey Blonde, 3 minutes or so for me. Why the heck would election officials visibly designate voters by party at the station, if that is indeed what they were doing? Is this happening all over FL? Seems like a bad idea to me.
http://theobamafile.com/
Back atcha Hermano!
November 4, 2008 - 15:20 ET by BlondeThey've been segretating us by party here as long as I can remember. Before the ID swiping (driver's license required) thing, you walked in, and there were two tables, Republican and Democrat (maybe 3...Independent?)....where you walked up to the appropriate sign A - F, G - R, etc.
I would imagine it IS happening all over Florida.
Oh yeah, after they swipe your ID, you have to verbally TELL them what your addy is. So I am glad about that part of the process....they are verifying that you are who you say you are. But the rest of it (bubbling in the ballot 5 people at a time) was nuts!
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Blonde... More good
November 4, 2008 - 16:53 ET by Clear thinkerBlonde...
More good news... As I drove into the parking lot for my polling place I did not see any Obama signs. And I double checked on the way out.
Curious Poll Question For All Voters
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
Hermano...here's a link
November 4, 2008 - 16:30 ET by BlondeAbout the voter ID machines. They're called Electronic Voter Check-In Identifiers.
Of course, people (hmmm....ACORN anyone?) are balking.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?