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View Results Politics Aside, Which Network Is Best? ABC CBS CNN FNC MSNBC NBC PBS Don't know Don't care Read comments <a href="http://harvest.AdGardener.com/noscript.aspx?s=16&c=122c344b-04b3-4b68-bb30-20e7a66bc14c" target="_blank"><img src="http://harvest.AdGardener.com/noscript.aspx?s=16&w=468&h=60&c=122c344b-04b3-4b68-bb30-20e7a66bc14c" width="468" height="60" border="0" /></a> Related Stories So McClatchy's Earnings Dropped 44 Percent... Vanity Fair Cartoonist Cribs from Seattle P-I's Anti-McCain Cartoon MRC's Graham on McCain Charging Media with Pro-Obama Bias NYT Stock at 12-Year Low; Many NYT.com Search Capabilities Apparently Removed Brit Hume Stepping Down as 'Special Report' Anchor Most Emailed Stories Will Media Report Concert Before Obama's Berlin Speech? Obama Snubs Injured Soldiers for a Workout, Will Media Care? NPR: Not Livin' Large in Ohio, Folks Can't Even Afford Meat? Wilson Waxes Wexler/Matthews Double-Team Colbert Takes on Sierra Club and Environmentalism Related Topics Media Business Comments Policy All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters. Viewing options Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. At the time I voted (First April 14, 2008 - 09:37 ET by wiwf At the time I voted (First vote!) FNC received 100% of the vote. The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy Login or register to post comments Email this page PROJECTIONS... April 14, 2008 - 16:38 ET by danybhoy So based on what you said, we can project FNC the winner? Actually, this was always gonna be a bigger landslide then Nixon over McGovern. "Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin Login or register to post comments Email this page NOTA. April 14, 2008 - 09:52 ET by sarcasmo = "C-Span by a longshot" in my case, due to pervasive antilibertarian bias elsewhere on TV, so I voted "don't know." JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Dont care which one is April 14, 2008 - 10:05 ET by bassndude Dont care which one is best. The only one I ever watch is FNC, and Glenn on Headline News. Mostly only an hour a day for each, at most. I get most of my news from right here on the Computer and NB. Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page i do concur and what is April 14, 2008 - 16:28 ET by TruthMonger i do concur and what is this about "politics aside" ??? are we talking about graphics and set construction then? i would have to vote Fox there too, and then Newsbusted Jodie has absolutely fantastic graphics and set construction IMHO... Login or register to post comments Email this page Politics aside, I picked NBC April 14, 2008 - 10:23 ET by Alabama Politics aside, I picked NBC because when it's time to watch the local news/weather, they're the most professional/accurate where I live. You can only insert so much bias into a recitation of local events, anyway. (There are a few exceptions to the rule, though. But overall, they're not bad.) But when it's time for national news, I go to the internet. Login or register to post comments Email this page I don't get most of the April 14, 2008 - 10:24 ET by HelenS I don't get most of the options (being cable-challenged) so I selected ABC as the lesser of the three remaining evils. I can't stand CBS, and NBC is annoying, so I tolerate ABC but then only when I'm so bored I turn it on while preparing dinner (and feeling brave and optimistic that it won't ruin my appetite :o) "Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare Login or register to post comments Email this page Don't care...I really don't April 14, 2008 - 10:45 ET by tater Don't care...I really don't get news from any of them and there are only a few shows I can tolerate on the network channels. By justice a king gives stability to a land; but he who imposes heavy taxes ruins it. -Proverbs 29:4 Login or register to post comments Email this page PBS April 14, 2008 - 10:47 ET by JohnM ...because there's NEVER any doubt or confusion about its political agenda - it's 100% reliable that way! /sarc Login or register to post comments Email this page Take another poll April 14, 2008 - 11:04 ET by mitchflorida Another poll would be more interesting: Besides FNC, which is the fairest network in news coverage? Login or register to post comments Email this page News April 14, 2008 - 11:07 ET by cheesegrater I get my political news from the "Godfather", "Maha", "Truth Detector" and "Commander-in-Chief of Operation Chaos". Login or register to post comments Email this page I enjoy Fox April 14, 2008 - 11:07 ET by Mearline but they're not perfect. The others, i tune into when i have no other option...such as on vacation or in certain restaurants...It really annoys me with the alphabet networks smugness in their slant of the news and that they assume(?) I am of the same mindset.....I mean it's the ONLY way to think, isn't it? Still, I get my news primarily off the internet. Login or register to post comments Email this page FNC?!? April 14, 2008 - 11:10 ET by Syrius As Gomer says,"Surprise, sur-prise" I would guess the cheap thrill of seeing the latest news on "girls gone wild", Brittney, Paris, etc... Go Rupert! Syrius Login or register to post comments Email this page You are so right! April 14, 2008 - 12:50 ET by vaboxrboy I really can't believe anyone watches FNC think they're really getting news. I watch on a regular basis for sport on how they issue their talking points in the morning and they flow through the programming all day. They also trot out an endless line of blondes in short skirts. It's also amazing to me that whenever someone leaves a Rebulican office or even the Busch administration they become a contributor to Fox News. Karl Rove, Santorum, etc. Alan Colmes is the only "admitted" liberal on the network and he doesn't even have his own show like Hannity. Hannity, by the way, has been connected with Hal Turner who is a neo-nazi by Turner's own admission. I'm not pleading liberal or conservative because I believe neither side has it all right, but as much as they repeat it, FNC is neither fair or balanced. Login or register to post comments Email this page "Alan Colmes is the only April 14, 2008 - 14:21 ET by Chris Norman "Alan Colmes is the only "admitted" liberal on the network and he doesn't even have his own show like Hannity." As opposed to all the other networks, where every news show is hosted and staffed by liberals. By the way, it is the liberals who won't admit that they're liberal. "Hannity, by the way, has been connected with Hal Turner who is a neo-nazi by Turner's own admission." That's a very ugly insinuation that is very, very unbelievable. You shouldn't write things like that unless you back it up. Login or register to post comments Email this page Yeah, because Lord knows no April 14, 2008 - 14:24 ET by balboa Yeah, because Lord knows no one ever writes anything disparaging about Liberals without backing it up... I don't watch Fox much, but I've seen a couple of highlights of a heavy set guy who does the most fawning interviews with Republican figures. Is that part of that "balance"? Login or register to post comments Email this page Bal, about a week ago on The Daily Show April 14, 2008 - 14:27 ET by sarcasmo Jon Oliver literally destroyed Fox News alleged "fair and balanced" slogan. It was hilarious, and apparently it hit home hard enough too, because nobody ever mentioned it here. :) JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page I saw it! It was hilarious. April 14, 2008 - 14:32 ET by balboa I saw it! It was hilarious. The guy I was talking about, they showed a clip of his where he claimed that some of Bush's speeches were now being talked about as some of the most eloquent political speaking ever. Whaaa...? Login or register to post comments Email this page I dug it up April 15, 2008 - 07:57 ET by sarcasmo And for the price of a Kia-ad, everyone can watch it and see for themselves. Gotta love that "ask everyone the tough questions" section. :) I find it amusing Fox News did so well in this poll, but IMO it might say more about the composition of NB than it does about Fox News... JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Gee Bal, I've never seen April 14, 2008 - 14:37 ET by Chris Norman Gee Bal, I've never seen anyone here accuse a media figure of being literally linked with, say, terrorists. I have seen people here admonish a number of times some conservative posters who get ugly and slanderous. Accusing a Fox host of consorting with Neo-Nazis is pretty out there in the ugly field, woudn't you say? I'd hope you would. As far as your "heavy set guy" doing "fawning" interviews, I wouldn't make an argument like that until you can at least identify him by name. Pretty rickety evidence there, champ. Login or register to post comments Email this page OH we're only talking media April 14, 2008 - 14:50 ET by balboa OH we're only talking media figures. Then I apologize. This guy is the fawner (looks different than I remembered): http://www.foxnews.c... Login or register to post comments Email this page Oh, you mean Lumpy (my name April 14, 2008 - 15:10 ET by Chris Norman Oh, you mean Lumpy (my name for him) Baird. I see him on "Election HQ" (a title and a show I've grown to dislike). When the topic is the Democrat race he has Democrats, like Bob Beckel and Susan Estrich, on. I've never heard him address hostile questions towards them. I don't know his politics, but if he is a Republican, he doesn't argue with his Democrat guests, unlike a lot of liberal hosts on the other stations. Login or register to post comments Email this page For your consideration April 14, 2008 - 14:31 ET by vaboxrboy http://halturnershow... Either Hannity or this guy is lying and since there has been no law suit... And did you know the theme song from his show comes from a song about a woman who kills her abusive man and that's her "Independence Day"? Nothing to do with America and us fighting the terrorists, etc. And yes, other networks have liberal folks expressing their views, but 1)they don't claim to be fair and balanced and 2) they identify themselves as commentators, not newsmen. The crack about me being a liberal is just a cheapshot and a bumper sticker slogan at best. You really should know a person FACE to FACE before telling them what you think they are. There are some of us who are in the middle of the road and that's Okay as well. We don't tend to hurl insults without good reason or believe everything we're shoveled. Login or register to post comments Email this page Well, if you can't trust a April 14, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Chris Norman Well, if you can't trust a crack pot radio host, like Turner, to tell the truth, who can you trust? "1)they don't claim to be fair and balanced and 2) they identify themselves as commentators, not newsmen." 1) Yes, they do. 2) No they don't. Where did I make a crack about you being a liberal? I addressed your comments only. Login or register to post comments Email this page Well, I guess we have to pick our crackpots! LOL April 14, 2008 - 14:56 ET by vaboxrboy . "By the way, it is the liberals who won't admit that they're liberal." I thought that was directed at me. If not, my sincere apology. Login or register to post comments Email this page I was merely addressing April 14, 2008 - 15:19 ET by Chris Norman I was merely addressing your specific comment: "Alan Colmes is the only "admitted" liberal on the network...". I preceded my reply your corresponding comment. I don't know how I could have made it any clearer as to what I was addressing. Login or register to post comments Email this page Chris...Hannity did at one April 14, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Jer Chris...Hannity did at one time have a very amicable relationship with the odius Turner...one that Sean has tried to distance himself from in recent years. There is no question but Hannity has disavowed some of the more obscenely extremist views of Turner, while the latter claims Hannity has merely sugar coated them to protect his image [and job] at Fox News. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page So, was Turner the radical April 14, 2008 - 14:55 ET by Chris Norman So, was Turner the radical crack pot he has become back then? If what you say is accurate, at least Hannity has diavowed Turner. Unlike Obama, who has disavowed his close mentor (up until it all became public) Rev. Wright only in the most circumstantial way possible. Login or register to post comments Email this page Yes, Turner was at least as nutty back-then, IMO. April 14, 2008 - 15:05 ET by sarcasmo More regarding the story is at Debbie Schlussel's site, but I coulda sworn we went over this when it came out. ;) JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page maybe it was. I wasn't there April 14, 2008 - 15:21 ET by Chris Norman maybe it was. I wasn't there for it. I'm sure if the charge had any merit, Hannity would've drummed off the air a long time ago. That's the way it goes. Login or register to post comments Email this page Give it time... April 14, 2008 - 15:30 ET by sarcasmo The story, or at least Debbie's take on it, is only a few weeks old, and so far the news media is actively trying to avoid the topic of the extent of Sean's relationship with Hal, despite words like: Suffice it to say that my recollection is that when Sean and I spoke by phone, while no one else was listening, he and I exchanged the kinds of views that most White, Irish-Catholic guys hold, but won't speak in public. In my opinion, based on my first hand experience, I believe Sean Hannity is, in fact, a Hal Turner sort of guy. It seems to me that a big difference between Sean and me is that I am willing to say publicly what I think about savage Black criminals, diseased, uneducated illegal aliens and the grotesque cultural destruction wrought by satanic jews while Sean and many others keep quiet to protect their paychecks. (emphasis Debbie's) From the nut in question himself. JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page I don't know Sarc. That April 14, 2008 - 15:43 ET by Chris Norman I don't know Sarc. That sounds a little hearsay to me. Turner is whack job. I'd think if Hannity indeed held such racist positions he would have been outed by now - he has enough enemies out there looking to hang him. These kind of stories remind me of someone who told me some famous movie star was gay because her sister's friend knew a hairdresser in LA who said he was. Login or register to post comments Email this page Take it up with Debbie... April 14, 2008 - 16:23 ET by sarcasmo She seems to believe it's really Hal Turner's words, and if she's right Sean and Hal were closer back then than Sean presently admits. On the weight of the evidence, unlike you, I'm inclined to believe Hal & Debbie's side of the story. And Hal seems to think he has some valuable tapes to back that up, too, potentially putting things well beyond a "sister's friend's hairdresser" level of credibility. His $100,000 deadline is April 15th, which is tomorrow, so we'll see what happens then. But as I've said, Hal's not getting a penny from me, so it'll have to be others paying if it happens. JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page vaboxboy...ignorance on April 14, 2008 - 14:37 ET by bassndude vaboxboy...ignorance on display? Colmes has his own radio show, just like Hannity. His tv show is co hosted by Hannity. Karl Rove? How about Dick Morris, (Clinton white house). You really dont know what your talking about, do you? Bugs Bunny had a commit for refering to folks like you. And a blonde up date. Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page bass...vaboxboy did April 14, 2008 - 15:08 ET by Jer bass...vaboxboy did understate the "liberal" presence at Fox. However, your Dick Morris example is pretty weak. I don't care who he once served as a political advisor, Morris--a Republican--has exhibited a near-pathological hatred of the Clintons for several years now. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page Morris once worked April 14, 2008 - 15:13 ET by sarcasmo For Jesse Helms. Hi$ allegiance i$ to GREEN, and I obviously don't mean the party... JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Oh, please. Fox has a lot April 14, 2008 - 15:28 ET by Chris Norman Oh, please. Fox has a lot more liberals on to represent their viewpoint than the other networks have conservatives. I know it. You know it. To say otherwise is to be disingenuous. We can quibble about Fox all we want and that doesn't mitigate the fact that the vast majority of the media has a liberal bias. Login or register to post comments Email this page Fox and liberals April 14, 2008 - 16:02 ET by Jer Fox has a lot more liberals on to represent their viewpoint than the other networks have conservatives. It's debatable, but I will concede this: A stronger case can be made for that claim today than in the mid to late 90's when the Fox network was launched on the premise that there were no conservative voices on the other networks. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page Yet another double post. The April 14, 2008 - 15:29 ET by Chris Norman Yet another double post. The site is shaky today. Login or register to post comments Email this page Ok Jer, lets try Susan April 14, 2008 - 15:40 ET by bassndude Ok Jer, lets try Susan Estrich, the list goes on, you know. Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page bass...no argument with you April 14, 2008 - 15:50 ET by Jer bass...no argument with you about Estrich, or that the list goes on--Bob Beckel, Juan Williams, Jane Hall, Geraldo, Kirsten Powers, etc. But, overall, Fox is predominantly conservative [which is okay with me]. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page Jer, no...no argument with April 14, 2008 - 16:00 ET by bassndude Jer, no...no argument with you either. But vaboxboy, ( you think that name means he boxes groceries in Va?), is way off base. True, Fox seems more conservative, but I think they are really about middle of the road. It just seems they are Right Wing because of the other news shows, being so far to the Left. Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page Good point Bass April 14, 2008 - 16:13 ET by well99 "It just seems they are Right Wing because of the other news shows, being so far to the Left." I watch Fox because I was so tired of all the bull comeing from the others.The others seem to forget that with the internet you can research for the facts. Login or register to post comments Email this page bass...I was trying to April 14, 2008 - 16:13 ET by Jer bass...I was trying to decipher his username, too. Maybe he'll clue us in sometime. Fox is truly one of the great network success stories in broadcast history. Murdock and Ailes deserve enormous credit. From my perspective, I think Fox has moved slightly more toward the center in recent months, although I still consider it to have a solid conservative orientation. But, I also understand you and I are looking on from different vantage points. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page He either boxes gorceries, April 14, 2008 - 16:21 ET by bassndude He either boxes gorceries, or works in a box factory. Or maybe he is homeless and lives in a box... Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page Why must we insult those we disagree with? April 14, 2008 - 16:20 ET by vaboxrboy No, I am not a grocery boxer. I have degrees in education and computer network engineering if you must know. I think that the first 45 minutes of Special Report is okay and Fox Report on the weekednds was my favorite news show on TV. But if you've watched it lately, they have taken off Eric Burns who really was a commentator who didn't wear his politics on his sleeve and removed the other commentators who sometimes didn't agree with Fox. Tonight I would almost bet money that they are going to go after Reverand Wright again because he spoke ill of them at a PRIVATE funeral this weekend. They had Fox reporters at a man's funeral and are going to report on what the pastor said. I am not defending anything that he says, but if you can accept them using a eulogy as fodder then, more power to you and keep up the viewership. And thanks for those of you who had a kind word for me! WOOO HOOO to you! Login or register to post comments Email this page Question boxboy, why on April 14, 2008 - 16:23 ET by bassndude Question boxboy, why on earth would you be talking about fox news at a funeral?? Sounds rather disrespectful to me. Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page It was part of his speech... April 14, 2008 - 16:29 ET by vaboxrboy I read it and it makes sense and to be honest, I wouldn't want that for my final service. But again, this is a case where bad behavior is on both sides. Wright for doing the political at a funeral and Fox for reporting it. If someone can justify either then let's just call up the Phelps family to do eulogies for our fallen soldiers. Login or register to post comments Email this page vaboxrboy, Eric Burns was my April 14, 2008 - 16:45 ET by Karma vaboxrboy, Eric Burns was my favorite on Fox. He should have had a one hour program in primetime. Fox screwed up again here. Login or register to post comments Email this page Absolutely right -- Burns rocked on Fox News Watch April 14, 2008 - 16:58 ET by sarcasmo And the new guy isn't as good. Ok, one last million dollar media idea. CNN should scoop up Eric, who I agree was the best Fox had in many ways. CNN should then put Burns and their own Howard Kurtz on a show lasting AT LEAST an hour (really a lot less due to commercials) but hopefully 2 hours, with a focus on the news media. I'd watch, and with Burns balancing Kurtz, I'm pretty sure I'd love it. Of course, I'm the one who still wants to somehow put on a pay per view Wright vs Hagee shouting match, which so far isn't happening, but that was the last million dollar idea. The Rev. Wright, damn it, is now giving it away for free at stupid funerals, for the sake of bitching at Fox News as soon as he can...Sigh. Why not get paid to say the same thing about Fox News or anything else, you stupid nutcase?? JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page "Burns rocked on Fox News April 14, 2008 - 20:17 ET by Chris Norman "Burns rocked on Fox News Watch" He rocked? Nothing against Mr. Burns, who was perfectly okay and low key, but how, pray tell, did he "rock"? I don't think he would exactly put the clickers on Fox with a primetime show. You guys all sound like you want Fox to be, at most, blandly "moderate" - which, I suppose, is no great surprise. Got to keep those loud mouth conservatives back in their mountain towns and hollers... Login or register to post comments Email this page I likely want the same April 14, 2008 - 23:06 ET by Karma I likely want the same outcome as you Chris but, we may just prefer different means arriving there. I don't want blandly moderate, I want conservatism to dominate through civility and it's inherent common sense and well thought out ideals. The message get's lost when we resort to the loudmouth and juvenile tactics of the left. I do want conservatives in the mountain towns and hollars...and in the flat farmlands where I live...and in the cities from coast to coast. What made Eric Burns unique in my book was that he remained in control and allowed all views to be heard without being shouted down or talked over or ridiculed or scoffed at or... on and on as has become common. We win when the message is civil and laid out for all to hear. Most of the socialists/progressives on the elitist left see life in a completely different light and our message is lost on them. Moderates, for the most part, tend to be calm, civil and honest in comparison and are more open and responsive to messages delivered in that manner. Without them, McCain is probably the best we can ever hope for and that is only slightly better than the socialists in my opinion. Login or register to post comments Email this page He rocked simply. April 15, 2008 - 03:25 ET by sarcasmo By what he didn't do. Talk so much. Eric STFU and let guests talk in an evenhanded way, something other Fox News "personalities" could learn from, if they were capable of learning, that is... JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Chris...couldn't agree more April 15, 2008 - 03:29 ET by bigtimer Chris...couldn't agree more with your assessment.. "Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill Login or register to post comments Email this page Yes, he was great April 14, 2008 - 17:01 ET by vaboxrboy and I have no clue of why he wasn't groomed for better things. I also liked Neal Gabler. He was most critical of Fox and I've read that O'Reilly wanted him gone. I also like Jane Hall, but still am apalled by her treatment on The Factor. Bill constantly tells her he has only 10 seconds for her repsonse if she doesn't show the right amount of outrage over things and then cuts her off. Hopefully Mr. Burns will move on to better things and Jane will wake up and move on. Login or register to post comments Email this page Karma...I completely agree April 14, 2008 - 17:03 ET by Jer Karma...I completely agree with you and vaboxboy about Burns. He was very professional and very fair--an ideal moderator for NewsWatch. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page FNC is probably the best, April 14, 2008 - 11:31 ET by Smartypants FNC is probably the best, but I voted Don't Care because tv news is really incapable of truly delving into any situation with much depth. Aside from news, the networks all have their good and bad points. Login or register to post comments Email this page → Trick question April 14, 2008 - 11:41 ET by Cool Arrow Saw through this one right off. NB is just trying to see how many people don't get FOX news. ♣ a seal Login or register to post comments Email this page It's hard to leave "politics April 14, 2008 - 11:45 ET by Chris Norman It's hard to leave "politics aside", because it permeates the MSM's coverage of most stories today. The bias at the networks have caused me to not to trust them with anything. If the story is being spun to fit an agenda, it's not news coverage any longer. After years of this, you don't know if they're reporting any particular story straight. Bias corrodes trust. Login or register to post comments Email this page None of them are very good. April 14, 2008 - 12:21 ET by dronetek None of the major news channels are any good, but at least FNC attempts to give you the facts without the left wing spin. Login or register to post comments Email this page I didn't mean to include Fox April 14, 2008 - 12:27 ET by Chris Norman I didn't mean to include Fox with the rest. I have other problems with Fox, but I think they do a better job presenting both sides of an issue and leaving a political agenda out of stories - especially stories that shouldn't include politics. Login or register to post comments Email this page IMO, being totally in-the-tank for a RINO like Rudy April 14, 2008 - 12:28 ET by sarcasmo Is the big government Republican equivalent of left wing spin by Murdoch, whose NY political past WRT Fox on cable suggests mutual back scratching. It's documented pretty well in NB's recent past that Fox News was TOTALLY behind Rudy prior to his FL-implosion. Their bias was just as palpable as anything the lefty networks have done, in my eyes. I'm sticking with "C-Span by a longshot," if only because they deign to cover the Libertarians and other small, unpopular political groups disdained by the biased media. JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Sarc, that's a pretty flimsy April 14, 2008 - 14:01 ET by Chris Norman Sarc, that's a pretty flimsy charge you're making. If some FNC hosts favored Giuliani, it didn't corrupt the news coverage to any degree near what a lifetime of bias in all the other news media. FNC fairly covered all serious candidates. To bring that up here is like comparing a shoplifter stealing a candy bar to John Wayne Gacy. Login or register to post comments Email this page I disagree. April 14, 2008 - 14:10 ET by sarcasmo See the archives from that period, and see their own debate decision WRT Rudy despite his dismal showing in the polls they allegedly used to make it. Fox News was obviously in the tank for Rudy, whether or not the NB masthead did a particularly-good job of covering the bias (they didn't, in this case, but I was around and the Daily Paul kicked Fox's ass repeatedly, so I linked a lot). IMO, and I have no proof of this, it was Rupert's payback for Rudy's favor of getting Fox onto a lucrative part of NYC's cable system while Rudy was NYC's mayor, which was apparently quite a political struggle at the time. Rupert won, and owed Rudy, and paid him back to no avail, so we got McCain instead. JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Okay, whatever you say... April 14, 2008 - 14:19 ET by Chris Norman Okay, whatever you say... Login or register to post comments Email this page She asked, the proof is there... April 14, 2008 - 14:26 ET by sarcasmo And google is your left-wing friend on this one. Many of the posts in question referenced the fact that NB has no monopoly on busting media bias, because, frankly, they amply proved the point... JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page sarc...Also, Fox News April 14, 2008 - 14:33 ET by Jer sarc...Also, Fox News president, Roger Ailes, supposedly has had a very cozy, long-standing relationship with Rudy. Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page And Hillary (which also has showed, but not as much IMO) April 14, 2008 - 14:57 ET by sarcasmo But to try to be fair, part of that could also be a kind of "Mets/Yankees" home team rah-rah, just as I'd hypothetically have for what I considered a halfway-palatable FL politician in the same circumstance. But not all of it, IMO... And OTOH, on various days posters to NB have nailed Fox News as well to the bias wall as the rest of the news media. Which is as it should be if Fox News chooses to be biased -- hell, I'll admit even C-Span isn't perfect, and in some ways it has deteriorated over the years even as their tech has dramatically improved. But at least they're able to STFU & cover Large-L Libertarians, Large G Greens, etc. without the constant commercial interruptions and empty-headed commentary of other outlets. JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page sarc...I think there has April 14, 2008 - 15:34 ET by Jer sarc...I think there has been a slight warming to Hillary by Fox over the past year or so, but I doubt the change of a few degrees presages any permanent thaw. Fox built its audience with relentless Clinton-hammering during the 90's. If they should happen to return to the White House, the attack machine would once again run at maximum rpm. I think some factors which have lead to the current "improved" treatment of Hillary by Fox are... --Bill Clinton and Rupert Murdock interactions --Fox's antipathy toward Obama --A willingness by Hillary to appear on the network, while Obama has consistently given Fox the cold shoulder Jer Login or register to post comments Email this page Sar April 14, 2008 - 15:45 ET by well99 You can say anything you want.That and fifty cents will get you a cup of coffee.That doesnt make it true.You dont like Fox..good for you but to me they are better than the rest. Login or register to post comments Email this page No, don't try to put words in my mouth April 15, 2008 - 03:54 ET by sarcasmo It never works. I call 'em like I see 'em, which means that I bust Fox when it's biased. I thought it was well known and accepted here, even among Fox News fans, that they were in the tank for Rudy from my previous busts and reports of busts on the Daily Paul. Since that's not the case, I've given just 2 of many links I could give to prove my point. Google is your friend for more proof of Fox's pro-Rudy bias. I bust other media sources, including NB itself, when they're biased, too, even when it's not popular -- and busting NB rarely is. I like 'em all just fine, when they behave properly, but when they don't behave well -- as with Fox News being 100% in the tank for Rudy -- they pay for it with their reputation no matter how often they try to paint themselves as "fair and balanced." Like and dislike are irrelevant, it's all about bustin' bias, and in the case of Fox, like it or not, I've busted 'em right here. I'm not the only one who saw the obvious WRT Fox News being behind Rudy, either. JMR The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world. Login or register to post comments Email this page Sar April 16, 2008 - 12:32 ET by well99 So how am I putting words in your mouth?Because I dont agree with what you say?I dont think it is true? My Post "You can say anything you want.That and fifty cents will get you a cup of coffee.That doesnt make it true.You dont like Fox..good for you but to me they are better than the rest." If you think that is putting words in your mouth well more power to you.Doesnt change the fact I disagree with you. Login or register to post comments Email this page Don't care (News wise FNC best), but politics aside... April 14, 2008 - 13:50 ET by Mark_for_Senate You didn't list the SciFi channel! Some of the best/worst B (and C) movies ever! To know and not do, is to not yet know Login or register to post comments Email this page Mark April 14, 2008 - 15:46 ET by well99 I quit watching after Farscape went away. Login or register to post comments Email this page Well, I still watch SG April 14, 2008 - 15:56 ET by bassndude Well, I still watch SG Atlantas, and some of the movies. Great TV. Beats all the others. But SPIKE is showing the StarWars movies on Sundays now. I watched all 6 the last 2 weekends:-) Save a SeAL, club a liberal!! Login or register to post comments Email this page I'm expecting NBC to start April 14, 2008 - 20:22 ET by Chris Norman I'm expecting NBC to start showing Law & Order reruns on Sci-Fi. It's only a matter of time - so many episodes - so few cable channels as yet uncontaminated... Login or register to post comments Email this page 2 years ago April 14, 2008 - 14:30 ET by juspassinthru I took Limbaugh's advice and stopped watching network news altogether. So 'I don't care'. Login or register to post comments Email this page I voted "I don't know". April 14, 2008 - 15:21 ET by radiofitz34 I voted "I don't know". Although I was leaning towards CNN because of their Headline News channel in particular. A couple of years ago, I would have voted for FNC but lately they have a bad case of National Enquireritus. I still like Brit and sometimes O'Reilly. And I like Jane Skinner but that's another story. Login or register to post comments Email this page Polling sample April 14, 2008 - 18:48 ET by the curator I'm not sure the polling sample here would be unbiased. Seriously, the outcome here is a little predictable. Its like going to Boston and asking the people who live there what their favorite baseball team is. "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building." -George W. Bush, October 11, 2000 Login or register to post comments Email this page Ya' think? April 14, 2008 - 19:45 ET by balboa Ya' think? Login or register to post comments Email this page Well just to throw you guys April 14, 2008 - 20:11 ET by QueenMum Well just to throw you guys off, I voted "Don't Know", cause I watch FNC for the news and that's about it. I can't honestly say it's the best if I don't bother tuning in the others. "Don't Care" would be my second choice. I like FNC. I get the news I need and I like the way it's presented. So, whether I'd like another better is a moot point. I am the exotic Queen Mum, and I approved this message. Login or register to post comments Email this page Television? April 14, 2008 - 20:28 ET by viluzion I haven't watched television since Slick was President. I didn't like it then and I don't expect I'll start watching it. A friend visiting me a few years back said, "I thought you said you didn't have a television." "No," I replied, "I said I don't watch television." Obviously, my answer was, "Don't care." Login or register to post comments Email this page I voted Don't care. April 14, 2008 - 23:27 ET by R D Helm I only watch TV news rarely these days, if at all, and that is only if something really major is unfolding. Theme for Election '08: Who cares? Login or register to post comments Email this page Evening RD...something April 15, 2008 - 00:05 ET by bigtimer Evening RD...something major like a basketball or golf game you mean? LOL... Just saw this when I was voting for the obvious choice...and thought I'd say hi... "Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill Login or register to post comments Email this page Evenin,' bt. April 15, 2008 - 00:10 ET by R D Helm Yeah, I watched a lot of the Masters, but I had to miss the final round, darn it. Been a little busy with my seriously screwed-up taxes and a major career overhaul. Miss you guys, I do. I'll try to check in more often. Honest. :-) Theme for Election '08: Who cares? Login or register to post comments Email this page → R D April 15, 2008 - 00:14 ET by Cool Arrow It was a great final round with Immelman holding up under pressure. Tiger has pretty much lost his putting touch or it would have been a real nailbiter. Great show Sunday. ♣ a seal Login or register to post comments