Enthusiastic support
8% (371 votes)
I'll vote for him but that's it
37% (1754 votes)
I'm voting third party libertarian/conservative
12% (554 votes)
I'm voting Democrat
5% (247 votes)
Not voting in presidential election
16% (755 votes)
Undecided
22% (1053 votes)
Total votes: 4734
Comments Policy
I'll vote for him in the
February 7, 2008 - 14:38 ET by Hero SquadI'll vote for him in the General Election. I will not be a party to a Clinton or Obama presidency.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
When Bob Dole ran I held my
February 7, 2008 - 14:46 ET by ricklailWhen Bob Dole ran I held my nose and pulled the lever for him. I guess I'll do the same with McCain. There is not way I want to see Hellery or Obamantion in the WH.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Bob Dole was not a traitor
February 7, 2008 - 15:15 ET by TruthMongerBob Dole was not a traitor to his party
Can't see how my feelings about McCain's eratic behavior as a "Republican" would change due to Romney's exit
Mc's got a BAD temperment that guy
5 years as a VC POW has to have a serious effect on someone
I know I won't sleep well with Mc's finger on the nuke button and the world economy
Exactly. Colbert had it
February 7, 2008 - 14:49 ET by MikeknaJExactly.
Colbert had it perfect last night in a joke about how some would rather vote for a Democrat who they hate instead of McCain who they have some policy differences with. Just plain stupid, Ann Coulter.
"The shadow proves the sunshine" - Switchfoot
http://www.xanga.com/mikeknaj
What's the difference?
February 7, 2008 - 15:01 ET by mattmHillary, Obama, McCain...what's the difference? They're all socialists.
What are we, battered wives? If we keep allowing the RINOs to slap us around, and then reward them with our votes, they'll just keep it up.
Happy couple.
Only one of the three plans
February 7, 2008 - 15:05 ET by Hero SquadOnly one of the three plans to keep up the GWOT and neutralize the bad guys.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
True, but will he keep that
February 7, 2008 - 15:13 ET by mattmTrue, but will he keep that promise if his Dem pals pressure him? I have serious doubts.
The odds are much better
February 7, 2008 - 15:15 ET by Hero SquadThe odds are much better than with either O. or C.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
mattm Quite right
February 7, 2008 - 15:26 ET by Six String SpiffAll it WILL TAKE is one meeting behind the fat alcoholics closed door (Teddy K) and McCain will be assuring us it really is the religion of peace.... I hate this
mattm, I agree. McCain will be unable to resist the pressure.
February 7, 2008 - 15:35 ET by R D HelmWhat many do not seem to realize is that, even if McCain did somehow manage to win the election (he can't), he will run straight for left field, as the only adulation he seeks is from his liberal buddies.
The only thing he seeks from us conservatives is our vote.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
the world will be yearning
February 7, 2008 - 15:52 ET by TruthMongerthe world will be yearning for a return to the happier days of GWB...
that will be fun to watch
Pulling the lever in November for McCain
February 7, 2008 - 16:22 ET by kiwikitwill be made easier because I believe that the MSM will make his life as miserable as they have that of President Bush. . . and McCain deserves every minute of it after sucking up to them for the last twenty years. My only worry is that he's not nearly as strong as Bush and may flip out. . . not that we'd notice.
What are your feelings . . .
February 8, 2008 - 07:47 ET by PShannonI didn't vote because I don't act on my feelings -- only liberals do that.
Who was the liberal that wrote the question for this poll?
→ Shannon Sharp
February 8, 2008 - 07:51 ET by Cool ArrowYou've certainly got a cutting wit going this morning.
Great observation.
♣ a seal
Hey, even evil Repubs have
February 8, 2008 - 09:33 ET by dscottHey, even evil Repubs have feelings, sniffle, sniffle, can't you see my crocodile tears?
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
5 votes one for each slot.
February 7, 2008 - 14:41 ET by upcountrywaterNovember is a ways off, I have "no opinion yet" HOWEVER it's Obamby or hellery..for pres.. and that's 100%
iranian uranium; iranian uranium, iranian uranium..
4 (unthinkable) H-bombs, NOW THAT'S SOME CHANGE
Keep the change Bob. h/t Sam Peckinpah
A followup q
February 7, 2008 - 14:44 ET by Matthew SheffieldThose who live in states that have not had primaries, are you going to vote now?
Several people I know are going to be voting Obama even though they are Republican just to avoid the risk of McCain fouling things up in the general.
Yeah, now all the
February 7, 2008 - 14:51 ET by MidAmericaYeah, now all the republican/independents are free to go alter the dems open primaries/caucuses. Just like some of them have done to us.
The primary here in NC is
February 7, 2008 - 15:05 ET by ricklailThe primary here in NC is not until May. The presidental race was not going to be a big thing here anyway because it is so late. The race for the governor in both parties is what will bring people out. Since I am unaffliated, I am thinking about declaring as a Dem just to vote against our sitting Lt. Gov. Beverly Purdue for the nomination. That is really the only race that I care about now. I maybe wrong but I think the Breck Boy is still on the ballot here. If so I'll vote for him because it won't mean a thing, at least to me.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
Breck boy's off. And Purdue
February 7, 2008 - 15:32 ET by JasonPBreck boy's off. And Purdue beating Moore is a longshot IMO. I cringe at them both though. NC GOP is a sorry state of affairs outside of national elections. If they can't raise money to run against these 2 clowns, and/or can't find a decent candidate to field and beat them, then we'll be another 2 terms under a donkey
Purdue
February 7, 2008 - 16:40 ET by ricklailPurdue is from New Bern. The people around think the sun rises and sets in her #%%. I will not vote for her. I know about the baggage she is carrying. Have you seen the ad from Moore about how she got the money for the Neuse River bridge? I think it is great. (I don't use that bridge very often.)
The idiots around here will vote for here just so they could say the governor was from New Bern.
If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard
I hear you, but I don't
February 8, 2008 - 10:13 ET by JasonPI hear you, but I don't think she plays well in Raleigh and west of there. And she's just not a good politician. I appreciate the fact that Les Merritt is exposing the NCDOT right now with the recently released audit. If we can just get more GOP'ers in positions such as his (Auditor, Ag comm, and Labor is all we got!), we could start to chip away at the corruption the Dems have fostered in this state! This exposure of Tippett and the DOT via the audit will hopefully hurt both Purdue and Moore.
JasonP... Nailing Black
February 8, 2008 - 13:53 ET by Clear thinkerJasonP...
Nailing Black and putting his sorry butt in jail is only the tip of the iceberg. The corruption in this state is so deep and so wide, it will take decades to get all the crooks. I find it very interesting that almost every single crook in our state government is a DEM!
Just curious... How much do the dems pay (brown bag money) in your area for votes? In my area it's $40-$50 a vote.
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Double post
February 8, 2008 - 13:57 ET by Clear thinkerThe Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
If Black wasn't in jail, he
February 8, 2008 - 14:15 ET by JasonPIf Black wasn't in jail, he would have been reelected anyway as his district is 100% yellow dog Dem's. I've never been offered to sell out for a Dem vote, so I don't know how much they go for. Don't think I'll ever understand why so many in this state continue to pull the lever for the GOP for pres and US senate, and then continue to pull for Dem's the rest of the way.
Yes, I will hit the polls,
February 7, 2008 - 15:17 ET by Hero SquadYes, I will hit the polls, even though it seems like Pennsylvania actually votes after the convention.
I will cast my vote for Fred Thompson, which is what I wanted to do in the first place.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Guess....
February 7, 2008 - 15:24 ET by Prester John...I'll do the same thing here in Virginia.
Pub primary in Texas...
February 7, 2008 - 19:02 ET by LionKingIn Texas, I will still vote for Fred since I am registered as a Republican. Send a message to the Pubs that we want conservative candidates.
In the General Election, I will vote CP for the prez.
[btw...GOP has called for donations lately. I have told them not to bother calling me anymore until they give me a conservative choice. needless to say, they are left speechless.]
obama
February 7, 2008 - 23:20 ET by JudithLet's put my 4 year old grandson in charge=Obama. McCain will not mess it up that much. Conservatives, my way or the highway. You must agree with ALL of my stances or you don't get my vote. Fits the nanny state perfectly.
Voting for Obama is crazy Matthew
February 8, 2008 - 00:29 ET by Dee BunkHe is more liberal than Hillary and if he gets in he'll be in for 8 years.
He's nicer to look at and easier to listen to but his policies are as far left as they come. If I had to choose one of them it would be Hillary.
You left out WILL NOT VOTE!
February 7, 2008 - 14:47 ET by okiehawk44Did you remember that the horrible Democrat LBJ years were followed by Republican years meant to correct those horrors -- (Nixon screwed it up the idiot); the horrible and costly peanut years were followed by Reagan and Bush Sr and the disgusting Clinton years were followed by the Bush yrs.
I will not vote for a candidate I can't stand. You can't buy my vote because I know that there will be another chance to make corrections.
My wife and I one time
February 7, 2008 - 14:52 ET by Conservative VoiceMy wife and I one time didn't leave a tip for a waiter that was a nightmare. We realized that that didn't send the right message. Because he would just see it as we stiffed him versus understanding that we were trying to tell him he didn't impress us. We should of left a penny or a nickle.
Vote third party, that way the message isn't people just aren't involved, it sends a clear message.
In my younger days I used
February 8, 2008 - 12:52 ET by Dan The Man 2In my younger days I used to leave 2 pennies. Not only that but I used to fill a glass with water, place the pennies in it, put a paper napkin over the top and upend the glass. I then placed it on the table upside down and pulled the napkin away. So what you have is a glass of water upside down on the table with 2 cents. A slap in the face.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Fixed
February 7, 2008 - 14:56 ET by Matthew SheffieldI had to reset the choices but it's in there now.
History is doomed to repeat
February 7, 2008 - 15:14 ET by lotrHistory is doomed to repeat itself. We ended up with the "disgusting Clinton years" because a very large percentage of conservative-minded voters could not get enthusiastic about Bush Sr., and instead voted for the Texas businessman tycoon, H. Ross Perot. Then after the election of "Bozo," and the scandals continued to surface, we comforted ourselves with the thought that "see, we (conservatives) told you so about Bozo -- the country will backlash against him in '96 and throw the bum out" (I recall bumper stickers saying "Don't blame me -- I voted for Bush") only to witness the unthinkable -- Bozo getting elected to a 2nd term. During his 8 years, a lot happened that is very difficult to reverse, in fact, hasn't been reversed even by 8 years of Bush -- Clinton set the country moving on a leftward path, and Bush, trying to reverse that, was crucified by the MSM and the Hollywood elite. Now we are faced the spectre of another 4 years of what will be, in all likihood, an even more liberal Clinton presidency. Entertaining the notion of "it's 'only' 4 years, then a real conservative will come along and rescue us" may ease the concience on withholding a vote to protest against that bastard McCain, but unfortunately the potential consequences (President Hillary Rodham Clinton) is a very large price to pay. Each time the "new" Democratic party (read: the post-Bill Clinton Democratic party) loses in a general election, it sends the message that it has gone too far to the left, that it needs to come back to the center if it wishes to remain politically viable, which then brings mainstream to the right, allowing the Republican Party to do so also. On the other hand, a Clinton-Obama win sends the message to the Democrats that "liberal" ain't a 4-letter word after all, that liberal principles gets them elected, thereby bringing them, the mainstream and the Republican Party even further to the Left.
Lotr, we "ended up with the
February 7, 2008 - 20:34 ET by MikeBLotr, we "ended up with the 'disgusting Clinton years' because a very large percentage of conservative voters could not get enthusiastic about" re-electing Bush the elder after he reneged on his "read my lips: no new taxes" statement. We thought we were getting a continuation of Reagan policies. Reagan used the airwaves to talk to the people who elected him. He'd tell them what he wanted from Congress and why. Enough people agreed with him and called their congresscritter, telling them how that voter wanted the elected official to vote on that particular bill. Reagan essentially made Congress do their damned job, which is why Democrats hate him and slander him to this day.
Bush the elder, on the other hand did not want any type of confrontation with Congress. He did not try to communicate with us here in fly-over country. He got rolled by the Democrat controlled Congress, and he lied to we conservatives who voted for him the first time. If he hadn't caved on "no new taxes", he would probably have had 2 terms, and we might not have had the "disgusting Clinton years."
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
MikeB -- you won't get any
February 7, 2008 - 22:13 ET by lotrMikeB -- you won't get any arguments from me that Reagan wasn't anything but a great man. I especially realized this when he passed away, and the country reflected on his life through a more historical lens. I will say, for what it's worth, that the man had more than just his conservative principles -- he also had charisma capable of attracting the moderate voters necessary for getting elected.
Regarding the Clinton fiasco, I speak from experience: I was one of the misguided "protestors" who voted for Perot, and to this very day I regret it and have vowed never to do it again.
not voting
February 7, 2008 - 23:22 ET by JudithI hope the USA is still standing.
35%-40%
February 7, 2008 - 14:47 ET by CaringwhiteguyInteresting. While it's very very early in your survey, enthusiastic support plus I'll vote for him but that's it total around 35-40%. That's actually even a little better than McCain has been pulling at the ballot box. But with Huckabee's help, that's all it took. What an uninspiring, sad and deficient bunch of candidate were out there as our choices.
That's actually a little
February 7, 2008 - 14:55 ET by Hero SquadThat's actually a little better than I expected, based on what I've read of late on the NewsBusters message boards.
Plus with 30% withholding an opinion, that leads me to believe that there are plenty of people willing to hear the man out before passing judgement.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
"...there are plenty of
February 7, 2008 - 20:45 ET by MikeB"...there are plenty of people willing to hear the man out..." and that's where they'll make a big mistake. Instead they should look at how he has voted on various issues, and what he has said about various issues when he wasn't trying to woo the conservative voters. After all most, if not all, politicians lie for a living.
"If that's what they want, I'll build the damned wall" doesn't sound like someone that anyone concerned with illegal immigration would want in the Oval Office. McCain is not a conservative. He hasn't voted conservative all that often. He is making noises like a conservative right now because that is what he thinks the voters he needs want to hear. Then next election, those who are telling us that we have to vote for McCain to keep the liberals out of the whitehouse will serve up another steaming pile of (whatever) candidate and tell us to shut up and vote for him or her to keep a Democrat out of office. Well, **ss on that! If the GOP wants my vote, they'd d**n well better give me a candidate to vote for. If Her Thighness or Barak wins the whitehouse, it won't be the fault of those of us who wouldn't vote for a RINO, it will be the fault of 1) the RNC for not grooming and supporting CONSERVATIVE candidates we can be proud of, and 2) the MSM for biased coverage or non-coverage of those few conservative Republicans who did run.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
vote
February 7, 2008 - 23:25 ET by JudithMcCain rating 83% by ACU. By the way, Reagan is dead, we don't have to compare all to him. Also, he was a dimmo before he turned Repub and was for ABORTION, So no one else can change their position?????
According to ACU, McCain
February 8, 2008 - 10:22 ET by Hero SquadAccording to ACU, McCain had a conservative voting score of 65, and a lifetime score of 82.3.
Compare that to Obama (8.0, 8.0) and Clinton (8.0, 9.0), and... well, I'll take a lifetime "B" average in Conservative 101 over a "pupil misspelled name and drew smiley faces in the answer boxes."
I will listen to what McCain says, and of course match it up to past actions, for certain. But he'd have to have done some pretty horrible stuff for me to start thinking that an Obama/Clinton presidency would be preferrable. (Unless you think that, because all politicians lie, that Obama and Clinton are therefore lying about their liberalism and that they'll actually vote like a conservative.)
(BTW, I noticed that Ron Paul, got a 76 in 2006, and an 82.3 overall... same as McCain.)
*****
" People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
We are most likely going to
February 7, 2008 - 14:48 ET by bigtimerWe are most likely going to be up against Obama, he will be harder to run against than Billary like I have said before...nevertheless I will never be able to pull the lever for McCain...
I will vote, I may write in Romney I don't know quite yet, but I won't vote for the despicable back-stabber...simple as that.
I am sick and tired of the elite politico's in the repub party cramming so-called conservatives down our throats...they are not conservatives, they are lucky to even be called moderates in my estimation....
Oh well, on we go.
Not sure yet.
February 7, 2008 - 14:49 ET by MassConservAt this point, I think I will probably not know whether I'm voting for McCain or 3rd party until I enter the booth in November.
Unless Lynn Cheney is on the ticket
February 7, 2008 - 14:50 ET by Lame CherryI will not vote for John McCain and the thought of Huckabee as VP fills me with revulsion.
I therefore will hopefully have a Constitutional candidate to vote for as right now after the Ron Paul idiocy and the people on here claiming to be "libertarians" screwing this whole thing up I have been turned off to the Libertarian party too. Liberty is RESPONSIBLE FREEDOM not manipulations to bring about anarchy.
Dr. Strangecain will not get my vote and I agree with Rush Limbaugh, the sooner this RINO ticket is defeated the better it will be that a real Conservative will arise for 2012........of course if America is still holding elections as war is coming.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
How about simply not voting
February 7, 2008 - 14:51 ET by BDHow about simply not voting in the Presidential election, but voting the Republican Party ticket at the local/state?
Thats what I plan on doing.
McCain has to truly EXCEL to make this conservative vote for him. (Lots of contrition for prior bad acts etc)
Haha..while you all are
February 7, 2008 - 14:58 ET by ThoughtPoliceHaha..while you all are bantering about McStain's liberalness or Huckabee's "conservatism", I will be voting my conscience for RON PAUL...the ONLY true republican left in the race!
Brokered convention here we come!
I think most people here
February 7, 2008 - 15:03 ET by Hero SquadI think most people here will be voting their conscience. If someone's conscience says to vote for the guy who most reflects your views and has a legitimate shot at winning, who are we to suggest that he or she isn't voting with a conscience?
It looks to me like the only brokered convention will be in Denver.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Will he be the Libertarian
February 7, 2008 - 15:18 ET by BDWill he be the Libertarian Candidate?
You better check with your ally SARC on that one.
Hahahahahahahaha!
The convention is broken?
February 7, 2008 - 15:37 ET by Roger the ShrubberThe convention is broken? Wha happened?
Check the label. "Made
February 7, 2008 - 16:28 ET by Hero SquadCheck the label.
Yep, there ya go!
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Here's a jolt for you: Ron
February 7, 2008 - 16:03 ET by NL207Here's a jolt for you: Ron Paul was not my first choice. But, he is the only candidate remaing that even remotely resembles a conservative. I will vote fior him in preference to any of these others, Democrat or Republican.
Here's a conservative alternative
February 7, 2008 - 14:57 ET by Prester Johnhttp://www.constitut...
Matt, That depends if I
February 7, 2008 - 15:06 ET by jcrapes4Matt,
That depends if I can still vote for Mitt or not. If he is on the ballot next tuesday in VA I will cast my vote for him. I suggest another option for your poll: Willing to vote for Congressional elections but won't vote for Presidential race. Good night folks need to rest before work tonight.
still hoping
February 7, 2008 - 15:09 ET by soosanI could vote for McCain if Mitt was on the ticket as VP covering our backsides. If the latest Huckster from Hope gets the nod, don't know what I'll do....
The best 3rd party for true conservatives
February 7, 2008 - 15:33 ET by LionKingI urge everyone to consider the Constitution Party if you are considering a alternative to Dims and Pubs.
Their platform is truly conservative. Let the Pubs retake congress, but let's make a statement about a conservative option.
Oops...
February 7, 2008 - 18:13 ET by BritcomI know we talked about this
February 8, 2008 - 03:45 ET by Gary P JacksonI know we talked about this in another thread. Thanks for posting more.
As I read this, it sounds like Ron Paul's personal platform. You can't pull all troops on foreign soil out. Those folks aren't there to get a tan, or to go skiing!
Party isn't for me.
No problem
February 8, 2008 - 05:46 ET by Britcom---
Huckabee/Hunter '08
hmmm, yeah, right. That
February 8, 2008 - 09:36 ET by dscotthmmm, yeah, right. That will draw off a bunch of votes from the GOP <sarcasm>
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
Why would you not vote?
February 7, 2008 - 15:05 ET by bluefeetbrewsI'd hope that everyone votes- it doesn't matter who the candidates are. Fill in your own candidate or acknowledge that you have no business complaining...
I assume the MSM can now drop their charade and start bashing McCain.
Complaining is the American
February 7, 2008 - 15:14 ET by dscottComplaining is the American way.
If you don't vote, you don't have a right to complain. I'm voting in November and I assure you I am going to do a lot of complaining!
Lord Sidious / Darth Vader 2008 Long Live the Empire! Come to the Dark Side, it is your Destiny.
Which Democrat shall I vote for?
February 7, 2008 - 15:19 ET by JohnMcGrewMcCain or Clinton/Obama? Not much of a choice.
McCain can't win with those numbers
February 7, 2008 - 15:19 ET by candanceBush got the entire GOP rallied in 2000 and he barely beat Gore. If even a third of Republicans defect McCain will lose.
But that may be offset by
February 7, 2008 - 15:27 ET by Hero SquadBut that may be offset by the third of Democrats who refuse to vote for Clinton.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Hero
February 7, 2008 - 15:29 ET by candanceWhat if Obama gets the nod?
Hey, stop poking holes in
February 7, 2008 - 16:30 ET by Hero SquadHey, stop poking holes in my theories! :-)
I think that's a tougher call... but he's still beatable.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
If
February 7, 2008 - 15:39 ET by PAPA LIf McCain is the the guy on top of the ticked I'm going to vote for that guy, NONE OF THE ABOVE. I've got to tell you the last 2 elections I voted a straight Republican ticket. I was a full blown Republican until John McCain and others called me a bigot a racist and said they were going to ram the Amnesty bill down out throuts. I am now registered as an Independent American. Nobody can depend of my vote. I'll choose the best man for the job and it will depend of how he compares to my conservative leanings.
A PROUD AMERICAN
I will be voting libertarian.
February 7, 2008 - 15:24 ET by R D HelmI am no longer willing to vote for RINOs, particularly one who has spent a large part of his career sticking a dagger in the hearts of us true conservatives at every opportunity.
As I believe John McCain's hatred for conservatives is a direct reflection on the true feelings of the current republican leadership toward conservatives, I steadfastly refuse to vote for their selected candidate, thus further rewarding their utter betrayal.
I held my nose and voted for GWB in 2004, knowing full well he was not even remotely conservative. I would have been willing to reluctantly vote for Mitt Romney next November, but that was as far as I was willing to go.
Sorry, but I am all out of clothes pins.
Broom Hilda or no Broom Hilda, I flatly refuse to allow fear of the other side to influence my vote yet again.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
RD... I won't vote for
February 7, 2008 - 15:37 ET by bigtimerRD...
I won't vote for him either...I will vote, we need to get the House if we can and we need a lot of extra help in the Senate... What makes me ill is McCain and Huck for that matter have made sure to try and achieve votes from the Hispanic crowd with their own programs and votes...plus global warming BS with McCain...I could go on and on with McCain but it is futile.
I am past disgusted at this point...funny isn't it now that Romney has suspended his race the msm are all giving him tons of free air time now.
Btw...Romney was always my first choice before Fred announced his run....then he became my second choice...I will always wonder if Thompson was working with McCain ...politics is a blood sport...at our expense out here in the real world....you just never know what goes on behind the scenes until years later sometimes.
big timer
February 7, 2008 - 15:45 ET by candanceRemember Fred did endorse him in 2000.
bt, you are right. The conservative fight will be in the House
February 7, 2008 - 15:56 ET by R D HelmI hope the House republicans have kept their powder dry, as they are going to need it, and then some.
We survived Johnson, Carter and Clinton, hard-core socialists all. We can survive Broom Hilda, too. It just means that we are going to have to pay really, really close attention to what is going on in the House, as that is where the real power lies in this country, as it is they who control the money.
Remember, the Executive Branch is only one of three branches of the federal government. She will quickly find out that being POTUS is not the same thing as being a dictator. She has to get her schemes through congress, and she will only have two years to do it.
That will not be as easy for her as many think. Many of the dems who got elected to congress in the last mid term were not exactly flaming liberals. Many of them have a fairly conservative constituency. A lot of people seem to forget that.
And there is still a chance Obama might just beat her, and he will have an even tougher time of it than she would. That would mean four years of glorious gridlock.
I am really trying to remain as optimistic as I can, but I cannot vote for John McCain. Ever.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
As someone who is pretty
February 7, 2008 - 15:31 ET by Gary P JacksonAs someone who is pretty straightforward and generally has a plan and sticks to it, I don't know where I'm at. I don't think I can vote for McCain. That may change, but I doubt it.
It's already being pushed on Fox, that Romney would be the best running mate for McCain. That would certainly make it taste better, but I doubt it would happen. Look for Lindsey Graham to fill that spot.
The only problem with third parties is they are not really a party. For a third party to make an impact, they would need to start from the bottom up. But which Senator or Congressman is gonna give up the party to join a new one?
There is just no good alternative.
I will vote here in the March primary. We have a very good conservative Congressman, and lots local races that matter.
My last thought though, is this: Romney, in his speech said he was stopping for the good of the party and the good of the country. Gomer Pyle however, vows to go to the end. I wish Romney had not stopped, but by falling on his sword, and making McCain the winner, it would give McCain the opportunity to start the national campaign, while Clinton and Obama are fighting tooth and nail. It goes to character and even class. Romney has both, Huckleberry has none.
Should Romney run again someday, he will enthusiastically get my vote.
GaryP... I Second that!
February 7, 2008 - 15:38 ET by bigtimerGaryP...
I Second that!
My first inclination is to
February 7, 2008 - 15:46 ET by motherbeltMy first inclination is to sit it out. But whoever made the comment about the GWOT made me pause; I will have to give it some thought.
All in all I think Obama is the only one who would stick to that pledge. HRC would go the way of her husband...You know, I worked at that harder than I've ever worked on anything in my life; I knew it was bad, but I didn't realize the depth of the disaster that Bush created..... someone's got to clean up his mess.
And let's face it, she would have to prove she had more cojones than the guys....
PS What does "I'll vote for him but that's it mean?
LOL mb... I was wondering
February 7, 2008 - 15:56 ET by bigtimerLOL mb...
I was wondering the same thing you asked with your PS...
mb, What does "I'll vote for him but that's it" mean?
February 7, 2008 - 16:10 ET by R D HelmIt was what I said when I voted for GWB in '04.
That was it for me.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
I would implore those who
February 7, 2008 - 15:47 ET by JasonPI would implore those who have a desire to vote 3rd party to reconsider or think it through a little more. Typically conservatives, or other right-leaning voters who go 3rd party put in with Libertarians, or smaller parties. This ultimately hurts the GOP as a whole, as it keeps these parties (who are largely irrelevant) on the ballot for future elections and keeps their federal and/or state funds active. Please consider writing in a candidate or refraining from a presidential vote as alternatives.
Ted Nugent 08
February 7, 2008 - 15:50 ET by wiwf^^
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
JasonP... I did not write
February 7, 2008 - 16:02 ET by Clear thinkerJasonP...
I did not write the following, but I agree with the sentiments.
"Why should I vote for a party that won't defend American values? Why should I vote for a party that seeks to work with the Democrats? Why should I bother when the Republicans don't even fight back against an insidious attack machine? In other words, why should I support cowards who won't even defend themselves from traitors?"
The GOP no longer wants conservative support (only our money), so why should we support them?
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
clear thinker
February 8, 2008 - 00:13 ET by JudithIf you are such a clear thinker, in order to get anything accomplished, Congress has to work with each other. Repubs accuse the Libs of wanting everything their way; what is this but more of same. Dems live here too, they are people, they have opinions and rights and responsibilities. So if we are elected, the President is only for half the people? Thats clear thinking?
I'm not exactly sure what
February 8, 2008 - 00:21 ET by Clear thinkerI'm not exactly sure what your point is, but I will respond anyway.
I want a Conservative leader. One that governs by the same principles our founding fathers envisioned. Not the pie-in-the-sky vision of the socialist/democrat/moderate-republican principles.
That, my dear Judith, is clear thinking!
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
JasonP,
February 7, 2008 - 16:05 ET by R D HelmThe GOP is for the moment, at least at the national level, toast. And the party has no one to blame other than the country-club liberal repubs who now run it.
These people have purposely betrayed the conservative cause. I cannot and will not reward them by continuing to vote for their hand-picked, liberal candidates.
I refuse to vote for a man who has openly demonstrated his rabid contempt for conservatives on numerous occasions.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
I agree with both of your
February 7, 2008 - 16:17 ET by JasonPI agree with both of your sentiments. However, instead of abandoning the party as a whole, I would encourage some sort of grassroots participation at the local level in the GOP to make sure your voice is heard and your issues considered. Right now, I'm thinking I will write in Romney as my presidental choice.
JasonP... So you admit to
February 8, 2008 - 00:26 ET by Clear thinkerJasonP...
So you admit to NOT being a conservative, am I right?
The Conservative movement is about to be reborn.
Incorrect sir (or madam, as
February 8, 2008 - 10:17 ET by JasonPIncorrect sir (or madam, as the case may be)
Michael Savage plans to
February 7, 2008 - 16:21 ET by DCC1Michael Savage plans to start a new 3rd party, the Nationalists after the election, I can't wait until they get on a ballot in 2-4-6 years get some true conservatives in some kind of office, because as far as I can tell the Republican party is lost beyond repair.
Borders, Language, Culture
He's probably going to want
February 7, 2008 - 17:37 ET by motherbeltHe's probably going to want to change the name of it.....Nationalist will invite too many Nazi references....
Conservative Party would be better.
Michael Savage? Yikes.
February 7, 2008 - 19:17 ET by Chris NormanMichael Savage? Yikes.
Should just change it to
February 8, 2008 - 00:16 ET by balboaShould just change it to massive kook party right now.
Savage
February 8, 2008 - 00:14 ET by JudithSavage is nutz and needs to be committed.
Thats bs and you know it.