if you remember those years, then you weren't really there, maannnnnn.....

Like you Jimma Carter helped push me to the right. When Bill Clinton come along, he pushed me to the far right-farther than my hero Jesse Helms.

“A debate is a conflict which clarifies a position. A dialogue is a conversation which compromises a position.” –John E. Ashbrook, The New Neutralism II, P. 7

mister joseph...you really had liberal "friends" with such a warped view of the world and reality that they would spout such unadulterated nonsense immediately after 9/11? 

Whom were you hanging out with?  I have many friends and acquaintenances across the political spectrum--including a fair number of liberals and fellow Democrats--and none of them expressed that sort of garbage.

Jer

Most kids your own age are more interested with texting and VH1 than spending time on a political board.

You and your parents must have lots of interesting political debates.

How did you come to decide that you didn't believe in the global warming hoax?  I'm curious about this because I'm in the middle of a huge debate on youtube with a bunch of pinheads and I'm shocked at how deeply they believe this stuff.  What led you to "clean" yourself of this junk?

I too, a libertarian, am politically homeless. While dealing with other people's money the responsibility of our government is to be prudent. A concept long lost. On the other hand, individual freedom is what we are promised in these United States. The libs prefer to believe that governing with your heart on your sleeve is right and proper. If you are not on board with this concept, they seek to force you, as they know better what is right and proper. But neither do I believe that I be forced to accept the pap handed us by our "moral" government concerning the use of illicit drugs. As a teenager in the sixties I, along with many of my friends, realized the government was lying to us about the absolutly addictive qualities of those drugs not prescribed, regulated and taxed. Nothing has changed in 40 years save that we are lied to more frequently about more things. The redistribution of wealth is the greatest evil perpetrated on the American people as it robs them of their self-reliance. Government intrusion into our personal freedom in the name of being progressive through regulation remains the precursor to group-think. Nope ... the poll just doesn't do the concept justice.

And everyone can see if y'all see a problem in the fact that one speaker's dead, and the other one's not only alive, but in office as a Republican.

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of
conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as
liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the
Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be
the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less
centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description
also of what libertarianism is.

Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the
present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I
think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who
are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there
are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for
some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest
man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we
don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on
my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same
path." -- Ronald Reagan

 
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"One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a
libertarianish right. You know, the left has gone so far left and the
right in some respects has gone so far right that they touch each
other. They come around in the circle. This whole idea of personal
autonomy, well I don’t think most conservatives hold that point of
view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be
able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes
down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in
the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. You know,
people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional
conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand
that individuals can’t go it alone. That there is no such society that
I am aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it
succeeds as a culture." -- Rick Santorum

In a way the Santorum quote's actually refreshing -- I'd rather have statist honesty than the continued theft of libertarian words accompanied by statism.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.