That's because, while a new batch of 18-24yr olds do end up voting liberal, a good portion of the previous batch has now garnered several years of real-life experience. After discovering how much of their hard-earned money goes out the door to fund lazy people and pet projects, they start thinking of politics a little more seriously; eventually they find the GOP is a better fit. Essentially, a continuous demographic shift in voting preferences.
my 22 yo Iraq Veteran son is up in Vegas at the moment working on McCain/Palin's campaign. This is on his own nickel. He is thrilled to have met Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin's parents this week and is really jazzed about the work he is doing.
Not all young people are in the bag for bho.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
...will be in my neck of the woods (Prince William County) for his last big rally. This county is considered ground zero for Virginia because it is the transitional county between the incredibly blue area inside the Beltway/purple area just outside the Beltway and the rest of the solidly red areas of the state towards the southwest. I don't know if this is simply a "get in McCain's face" maneuver or if BHO thinks he can win here.
The voting precinct I will work tomorrow as an election officer reliably goes 2-1 for the GOP and it will be interesting to see what the numbers will be tomorrow. I am guessing McCain will get over 70%. Unfortunately it is a rural precinct with only a couple of thousand voters.
Oh, and as I drove by the scene of the rally (the country fairgrounds) at noon, I noticed a number of high school aged kids hanging out waiting for the gates to open.
I guess they'll be getting academic credit for bowing down at the altar of Obama.
I think early voting is unConstitutional. So much can happen in those final weeks and you can't take your vote back.
I don't like mail voting either, it's too fraud prone. It was OK back when you had to have a legitimate excuse for an absentee ballot - away at college, in the military, etc. But it's out of control now. And how do you know your ballot actually got there?
I like voting at the polls on Election Day. I like the traditional feeling of everyone gathering together to cast their votes.
I agree 100%. There is somethingto be said about standing in line with the your fellow citizens to vote. This whole idea of literally mailing in your ballot for those who don't have a valid reason to vote absentee cheapens the entire process.
Agreed. If its too crowded, then the election commissioner needs to open more booths, not open more days to vote. And people should be required to show proof that they are who they say they are. The faith of the electorate is fragile right now, and it will get worse if measures aren't taken to take voter fraud seriously. It is this faith that keeps America America, and not feeling the need to storm the castle with our pitchforks.
I'm voting today - actually mailing my ballot today since my county in Washington is absentee only (I don't like it either). I don't like to send it in too early - never know what might happen!
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
I didn't know there was a county in Wa. that is absentee only...it isn't King Co. is it?
I know Oregon is all absentee...is Wa. slowly but surely trying to go that way too?
I know you may note be here now...if you see this later and respond, I will check back...just curious.
I voted absentee too...we sent them in last week, we haven't had problems here in my area in Mt. but I know they have had fraud in the eastern part of Mt. last election.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
I live in Thurston County (home to Olympia) and we're completely absentee. We voted on it a few years ago and unfortunately it passed. Other counties are leaning that way and anyone can request an absentee ballot. It used to be that you needed a valid reason for it like being out of state (we have a lot of military folks out here) or disabled, but not anymore.
King County doesn't need absentee voting to commit fraud. They have ACORN up there in Seattle and that's where all the kooky libs live!
Update: Okay I checked for you BT. All counties are absentee except for King and Pierce counties. At least that's what my research tells me! I've only ever voted in Thurston, Pierce and King so I can't speak absolutely about the others. (And no, I didn't vote in all three at once!)
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
It is unbelieveable to me that any American who believes in America would not take advantage of their right to vote...Especially this year. As far as I'm concerned, if you choose not to vote, then you lose your right to gripe about the outcome or any of its repercussions.
My mother-in-law is a PUMA. She is currently undergoing chemotherapy, but despite that, she will be voting tomorrow, in Florida, for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
I will definitely be voting tomorrow for McCain/Palin!!!!!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Unfortunately, I have a brother who does not vote. It frustrates me to no end and I have talked to him until I'm blue in the face. One year he complained that his property taxes had gone up (it was in part due to a school levy) - I let him have it. I told him he had no right to complain since he couldn't bother to connect some lines on a piece of paper and I wouldn't listen to it. He still doesn't vote, but he now keeps his mouth shut.
Don't worry, I keep trying to help him understand the importance of voting. I truly believe it's our greatest privilege and highest honor.
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
You may still get through to him about how important our right to vote is. Our whole democratic system turns on our right to choose for ourselves who are leaders are!!
Hang in there!!!!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
That said, that better be the only reason that someone is not voting. It is unfathomable to me that any American who can vote and who gives a damn about their country would intentionally choose not to vote. I haven't missed an election since I was 18, and barring being trapped in a cave somewhere or being dead, wild horses couldn't keep me from voting.
Ever.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
I voted early as did most of my family. I live in the Chicago area and it is in the tank for Obama. I don't need to deal with the ignorant morons who remind me of rats following The Pied Piper! I used to be an election judge but gave it up after dealing with the brain dead idiots who come in to vote. You wonder what kind of dope their parents took during their conception! I honestly believe that if Obama is elected ,this will be the last free election in America. The Communist will have succeeded in overthrowing the government of this country without firing a shot! Remember, Obama says hes going to drasticly change America! If he is called to question on this, he'll remind everyone that he kept telling us this in the beginning. I just wish there was some degree of intelligence with the hypnotized voters to open their eyes before its too late!
Wazzup abp? Just mad you don't get to vote tomorrow? No one here cares what some foreigner (YOU) thinks about America. What do you not understand about that, hmmm?
As the GOP has told their minions for years...'Vote against your best interests, you vote for our tax cut for our wealthy supporetrs and we'll try to pass anti-abortion laws and a host of other crap that will never see the light of day...thanks for your vote and cash! Suckers!" Bye, bye, GOP!!!
Just so you know, forcing the market to misallocate resources will
damage the economy. You have to think a few steps ahead to understand
that voting socialist is going to hurt us all.
newsflash: america will be standing long after the echoes fade from your last hateful rant. why don't you try another emotion for a change. - And we want it to be the founders vision for America not the Communist Obama's. I would like to know what is hateful about what he said? ABP you and your ilk always call something hateful if you disagree with it. I notice that true to your Troll nature you did not refute any of his rant with debate.
You see what you want in what you read. I certainly am missing your point. What hate, rage and intolerance do you perceive? There is noone threaghtening bodily harm, suggesting terribly vile personal things happening, or shouting vile epithets at others on this site. Some of us do at times get passionate about what does and doesn't make the news, which is as it should be when you care deeply about the state of the USA.
Let's see here...anuglysocialist, a HATE-FILLED, angry Socialist, who blindly supports an ideology that foments hatred based on class and other lines of division, is whining about other people's "hateful posts".
Wow. The pot calling the kettle black. Contradictions collapse.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Really? Plenty of time to get those code words ready...Unbelievable just plain typical for most of you...go ahead and rant... Just remember to wear your sheets!
I also bought myself a new pointy hat, so I will be sure and look good when I am out in front of my local polling place and chasing off black voters tomorrow.
You know, I think most of us here are getting pretty f'ing fed-up with you and the rest of the trolls here constantly inferring that we here are racists.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
...through the words they choose. Stopping it from the start does not make me a racist for understanding the usage of the words of racial insensitivity. You say you're tired of hearing the claims of racism yet you do nothing to stop it when others spew their hate. I hope you get exhausted and worn out!
Thanks for the list. We want to be ready to use any of the names when discussing the next President, if Obama wins. It only seems fitting to turn the tables on the Dems. What can they say when they've use similar names on George Bush.
We are hearing about record breaking early voting turnouts for Dems in the MSM. If that is the case, and if the majority of Republicans will be voting on Election Day...won't this skew the "Exit Polls" in McCains favor?
And if the early exit polls show McCain is ahead...will the MSM report it? Remember in 2004 exit poll data leaked and many commented on how well Kerry was doing in an attempt to suppress Republican votes out West.
Can you imagine Chris (Thrill up my leg) Matthews sitting on that information and not using it to get out the Obama votes in the MidWest and West? Me either.
My guess is that when this "historic" election is over tomorrow, the next election in 2 years will not attract the massive early voting seen this time. Why? Because the novelty and historic opportunity will have passed and it will not be viewed in nearly the same way. If you can't get out to vote one day every year or two, you are lazy or stupid or both, and next time you will revert back to what and who you were in years past no matter if you are given two weeks or two months to vote.
Election Day should be the only day to vote. Election laws need to be overhauled big time. Absentee ballots should be kept to a minimum particularly in Presidential election years. Election day is well known months and even years in advance so people should make arrangements to be at their polling place on election day. If they can't they should have to explain (and there should be a short list of excuses why people can vote using an absentee ballot) why they won't be voting in person.
Photo identification with some proof of citizenship needs to be mandatory. Many places don't require this. Ink everybody like they do in Iraq so that once inked, people can't vote again. Make voting machines recognize voter ID's like at the airport where I can scan my passport to check in for some international flights.
Voting is a priviledge that the left and those who need to are trying to make easier. Make it like driving a car and take it away if you are unworthy of voting.
It use to be that one had to be an invested voter, ie someone who actually has to pay the taxes Congress passes. We're getting more and more voters who are voting socialism, because they don't have to pay the bill. Compound that problem with voter fraud, and it won't take long before this free land becomes something written about in the history books.
I'll be voting tomorrow, right before I go out shopping. Picking up some extra food and ammunition - just as a precautionary measure against "rioting" or "celebrating" which, as Mr. Shepherd pointed out, both look pretty much the same in some cities.
I demand real change - force a Democrat to speak the truth!
I am a Republican. I voted Republican in the primary. I have never voted for a Democrat. My brothers in party, I just can't vote for McCain. I do not believe either men are evil or unpatriotic. Neither Socialist or communist. I simply have no faith in McCain's ability to manage this economy. I also believe Obama has the right position on Foreign Policy and veteran's support while at arms and at home. The time of the Hawks must pass. Like many others, I am not leaving the party...butI do feel as if the party left me over the last 8 years. Borrow and spend is even worse than tax and spend. Because of our fiscal irresponsibility we are set up for an even bigger fall...yet to come.
I am Republican but I am not a right winger. You may not agree with my position. That's ok. I have to believe our tent is big enough for a wide variety of republicans.
You might want to go check on Obama's Socialist pals who have helped him form his ideas over the years. They'll be in your pocket first then into your whole life. Be ready for reeducation when you decide that they are wrong for the US.
and this one obviously cut and paste his reply. You get all that gobblety gook at the bottom when you do that. He's probably posting the same reply on a bunch of Conservative blogs
Ah what the hell....let the troll go - Hey here's my Troll huntin license, and it says nothin bout catch and release on this blog. Is he undersize or somthin? Seems a bit undersize but you dont tell and I wont. Hehehe.
"I am Republican but I am not a right winger. You may not agree with my
position. That's ok. I have to believe our tent is big enough for a
wide variety of republicans."
There's already a tent for people like you. It's called the Democrat party.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
As someone who lives with dyslexia I rely heavily on spell checkers. I have a program I cut and paste my replies to spell and grammar check. Otherwise they can be hard to read.
As for the issues, I could argue my position with logic and reason and still not change your mindset. That's ok. However, I am conserned that your replies echo the taling points of Fox News and the Christian right. I see no original or critical though here.
I am a Republican for sure...and many of you are not acting like good republicans...or Christians for that matter. Jesus would probably post in here, "he who is with out sin cast the first stone."
Many of you represent yourself as a hate filled mob. If this IS the new Republican party, than I may as well start calling myself a Libertarian. However, I am convinced you are the minority voice in this great party.
as for Jesus - he's busy accepting 3000 slaughtered baby Americans into Heaven every day - too busy to post here most of the time - but he did post here once i remember - it was "Gay "marriage" my ass!!!"
and yes please call yourself a libertarian
hint hint: liberal saves you a few characters for tree hugging
For all intents and purposes, he knows when your birth and death will happen according to his plan. It's not up to you to figure out his plan. If he decided to create the tools and people to do his bidding, by all means he has the right to play God...(sarc on)
...God as an all powerful, all knowing being cannot stop the practice of abortion? If God wanted to intervene he would have. You might want to stop battling God since he can stomp you whenever he wants. Ohhh, the madness!
is that God knows eternity, whereas you as soon to be nothing more than a pile of stiking meat (who will stand before him none the less). The point is, this life on earth (which you hold so dear) is all you will have while the Children of God have eternity to look forward to. Sorry you are jelous of that. but you are...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it."MM says...
He allows what He allows and He prevents what He prevents. He is God.
Three things you ought to know:
those precious beings, killed by their mothers, are with Him. And someday will probably be part of the Lord's army that will one day come and put an end to all of this maddness.
Regardless of who sits in the Whitehouse, He still sits on His throne in heaven, with His Son Jesus at His right hand.
His Son Jesus came to earth to tell us that "No one comes to the Father, except through Me." Accept Him as Lord and Savior, or reject Him and suffer the consequences.
God gave Adam control of this world but he turned control of it over to satan when he sinned. Jesus took back control of it when He rose from the dead but we have yet to take control of it from satan. As long as mankind follows satan instead of God there will be evil. I know this is oversimplication but it's the best I can do.
1. abortion - it's a liberal/democrat platform/issue, most conservatives abhor it
2. do the math - 40,000,000 aborted in the US alone in the past 35 years. Show me where that compares to any "victums" of our foreign wars.
I am sorry, your statements are just plain ignorant.
But more importantly...
If Jesus were alive today, I fear he would look at the voice of the republican party and walk away.
He doesn't look at any labels, He looks at the heart, and asks "Do you know Me?" "For I am the Truth and the Light, NO ONE comes to the Father except through ME." Got it? You might want to, your eternity depends on it.
If you knew you were being manipulated to say and feel the things you do, would you feel resent then? - You Troll and do not debate, we dislike Trolls here. Jesus loves you and instructs me to tell you teh Good News. Of course first you have to have ears to hear.
We are pretty sure you are not a Republican or conservative, just Trolling.
I suggest you read the socialist platform and the republican platform and then come back here and show us in writing whos planks are making you walk funny. Get a map and compass. You're in the wrong tent.
Republican values are civic virtue and opposition to aristocracy and corruption. This was the original intent of the republican party. Only in recent years was the platform taken over by the religious right as a way to add and push thier agenda.
As a republican I value life, liberty, right to personal privacy, freedom of speach, the press and religion,
Who's Life? How many months out of the year does your liberty loving butt want to be enslaved to the government? Does your freedom of speech include the fairness doctrine?
Many recent changes show the clear differences with the platform of the democrats who have been adding planks of communism at a feverish pace.
Choose your platform or build your own. Although we will always keep them, no one is holding a gun to your head.
I don't know what your definition of "Republican" is, but you need to investigate it. Let me give you a clue...There is no way that anyone, ANYONE, can know, understand and embrace what it means to be a Republican and what we believe, and then vote for Barack Obama. No way. What Obama believes and what Republicans believe are diametrically opposed. You might as well go all the way and change your party affiliation, because you are definitely not a Republican.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
I was out at a restaurant last night with my fiancee, my best friend, his dad, and 2 other friends. All of us have voted already. And we've all seen long lines at the polls. Turnout is gonna be huge this election.
Although it's worth noting that the people turning out mirror the electorate in past years(i.e. middle age and older voters with very few 20-somethings). My honest opinion is that whichever candidate gets their base to show up will win the election.
I'm stuck in Oregon with voting-by-mail and no polling place to go to on election day. However, the elections office does have a ballot collection box that can be used instead of trusting the mail. I dropped my ballot in the collection box more than a week ago. Now I just have to hope the collection box drop doesn't feed into a shredder!
I am a far right Conservative who believes in the Constitution and Capitalism, and who does not believe in killing babies. But because McCain isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, I am voting for Obama, a freshman senator with zero experience, questionable associations, and who stands for everything I stand against. Because, you know, that's the logical choice.
Really, I am. I'm serial. I mean, there's just something about his campaign of running on nothing more than "I'm not Bush" that tells me he knows EXACTLY what to do to solve current economic problems. You know, because Capitalism only works 99% of the time, clearly it is a failure. It's time to give Socialism a try.
I have also been a good boy this year. I sure hope Santa Claus notices and flies his sleigh to my house this Christmas Eve.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
By not voting you are literally voting for Obama. GWB won in 2000 by 537 votes giving him the necessary 25 electoral votes to win the election. So, every vote does count!!! and does make a difference. By not voting, you are giving away your vote to be used against you and a God given right and priviledge.
More taxes, more spending, no regulation. Prosperity there it goes.
Obama's plan
Less taxes, Smarter spending, better regulation. Prosperity still may not come.
Prosperity will come when we end the Bush Doctrine, correct the trade deficit, end the unfair trade policies, restore the dollar and become an economy that produces products for the world. Our service based society is our down fall.
Transparent? Once you clear your way through the rhetoric, I and every major economist...including MANY republican economist, secretary of states, and even Regan's Chief of Staff endorse Obama's plan.
So you're telling me you know better than Warren Buffet? Let's compare bank accounts shall we? Then talk about economics.
When Alan Greenspan admits the fundamental basis of his economic philosophy was flawed...we have a problem. Certainly one that McCain's do nothing economic plan can better.
Oh good. Perhaps you can explain to me the logic of Obama's plan to soak successful busineses with windfall taxes, yet at the same time dissuade them from taking their business overseas,where they will not be subjected to said windfall taxes.
If you are indeed a conservative, you see that the logic of the Obama tax plan is flawed, and is simply a ruse playing to a populist audience.
* Hero's "retro" blog. / "People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
"Obama's plan Less taxes, Smarter spending, better regulation. Prosperity still may not come."
Obama's plan: Fool the suckers. Clearly you've been on your knees for some time now. Next up is his "bend over and take it" plan. I hope at least Michelle gives me a kiss as her husband screws us all. I guess next you'll be telling us that Bush only gave tax cuts to the rich.....
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
He just moved up to Seattle, and is not yet a resident, so I "next-day"-ed his absentee ballot to him ($16.50) , he is "next-day"-ing it back ($16.50). I hope he gets it right, or it could cost me much more...
I started voting absentee before I retired, because I worked so far from home. Now it's a habit, but I learn all I can about the candidates and the ballot initiatives before sending it in.
Chai
“The beauty of our system isn’t that we have the right to vote. No, the nice thing is that people who are too dumb or lazy or uninformed to bother casting a ballot aren’t compelled to vote.”Burt Prelutsky
I can relate...you have more time to learn and read all the measures they have on the ballot and investigate them ect., if you have any questions about them, in the booth you really don't, plus depending on the sponsors of the bills they want passed... it depends so much on how they place the wording, INTENTIONALLY...you may think you are voting for or against something if you do not read it carefully...especially if you are in the booth and know nothing about the subject.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
is Prop 8 here in CA. Our very liberal AG Jerry Brown [formerly known as Governor Moonbeam] changed the title from one which told the intentions of the proposition's writers to restore the meaning of the word 'marriage' to mean only between one man and one woman to "Eliminates the right of same-sex couples to marry," a 'right' they didn't have until 4 liberal judges gave it to them just this year, in spite of the votes [twice] of more than 60% of California's voters.
Chai
“The beauty of our system isn’t that we have the right to vote. No, the nice thing is that people who are too dumb or lazy or uninformed to bother casting a ballot aren’t compelled to vote.” —Burt Prelutsky
Proudly voted for McCain/Palin! So nervous about the post office, I hand delivered my absentee ballot to the elections office!!! I am more nervous about tomorrow...pray...
Meet me in the bread line to start the new revolution...nc
Problem is with RINO's like NCguy. They say they are Republican or Conservative but he couldn't have very strong convictions about his beliefs if he/she is now willing to vote for a socialist. Obama has such a nothing record and a history of socialist/marxist friends, no access to his school records/products, anti-american values it is easy to lay the socialist baggage on him and he can't refute it, hasn't even tried. Even his two books make him suspect to his love of this country. He is sticking to his basic story from day one. Same thing he did to Hillary with the MSM in full support/attack mode for him.
Now we know that Hussein O truly intends to turn the U.S. in to a third world SH. What else can you think when he vows to bankrupt businesses which provide 50% of the electric power to America. I can see anyone who votes for Hussein O flip a light switch and nothing happens and they spend a few days and nights during the winter with no heat. I don't care where you live or what you heat with you need the electricity to power the blower.
Anyone who votes for Hussein O should burn their bibles before going to the polls and close their eyes if they pass a church. You can't claim to be a Christian, Jew, or catholic and support someone who voted (and pushed through) for the 'born alive' act which murders babies after they are born breathing and screaming. That is cold blooded murder in any book.
I had to vote No, as a non-citizen fan I am not allowed. I am sure ACORN has stuffed enough for Obama and Die-bole with the VRW will cancel each other out. Maybe if Obama get in that too will be changed. In 2012 the vote will be by text message (standard texting fees) and open to all members of the world.
My family voted a week ago and drove our ballots down to the election office (don't trust the USPS...). We voted early because we spent the entire weekend looking up the records of everyone on the ballot - judges and all. Since we filled out the early ballots, why not just take them in? Personally, I would have taken my ballot in tomorrow, but nothing would change my vote. This election campaign has gone on so long, my mind was made up in February - No Obama, no matter what.
I didn't serve 22 years in the USAF (and watching my absentee ballots getting dumped) for you all not to vote.
So vote!!!
I am not up at this early hour, packing my van to go and set up the local polling place and then spend my entire day, and half the night there to ensure you have a place to vote, for you not to vote.
My "personal" enemies today aren't political parties or candidates, it's apathy.
Been out sick...haven't been able to post comments for a week. Anyway, waiting for polls to open here in liberal CA. Ole Sarge, I'm like you. except I'm no longer in active duty. Don't worry, I'll make your vote count.
I'm going to vote like my life and family depended on it. I am a very hardworking, middle class, average American who is guided by values dear to my heart that happens to be conservative in principles. I don't want my taxes supporting those people who are here illegally (Aunt Zeituni), too lazy to find employment because of government handouts (see welfare recipients), and supporting organizations that differ from my views (ACORN). I am going to be a vote that is going to count for the betterment of this country that I loved so much and served with my life on the line. I will vote Country first before everything else. I will vote McCain-Palin 08.
We all have heard about early voting - how about LATE voting?
THE TEMPLATE: The MSM supresses the vote by announcing the East Coast goes all blue - then the red voters in midwestern and western states are bummed out and don't vote.
With LATE voting, the Eastern states polls close and the polls in the midwest and west stay open an extra 12 hours or so.
Might that change things? I'm watching different channels this morning and Obama's transition team has appointed all their cabinet and federal judges. As for Sen. Diety, he's laying out his agenda for the second term.
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As has already been
November 3, 2008 - 13:50 ET by HelenSAs has already been suggested, there may just be a few early voters who wish they could change their mind based on recent information.
I'm eager for all of this to be over but I really would rather vote on voting day than cut in line and vote early.
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." - Paul (Rom. 13:1)
One of the follies of early voting...
November 3, 2008 - 13:53 ET by HeavyChevyusually the "ugly" don't come out about the person your electing until the very utmost end, by then its too late.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
DNC
November 3, 2008 - 14:03 ET by JDWDNC registers more 18-24yr olds every election yet more libs fails to vote. Same with ACORN.
Carter and Reagan were tied going into the election.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'
Is the Community Reinvestment Act part of free enterprise
Obama added a work requirement to his proposal
That's because, while a new
November 3, 2008 - 15:39 ET by TD in FLThat's because, while a new batch of 18-24yr olds do end up voting liberal, a good portion of the previous batch has now garnered several years of real-life experience. After discovering how much of their hard-earned money goes out the door to fund lazy people and pet projects, they start thinking of politics a little more seriously; eventually they find the GOP is a better fit. Essentially, a continuous demographic shift in voting preferences.
Voting
November 3, 2008 - 20:56 ET by JDWA high percentage of lib 18 to 24yr old first time registered do not vote.
FOX results: The majority of early voters are libs.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'
Is the Community Reinvestment Act part of free enterprise
Obama added a work requirement to his proposal
As I commented in another post
November 3, 2008 - 21:19 ET by DEVILDOCMOMmy 22 yo Iraq Veteran son is up in Vegas at the moment working on McCain/Palin's campaign. This is on his own nickel. He is thrilled to have met Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin's parents this week and is really jazzed about the work he is doing.
Not all young people are in the bag for bho.
Who's not voting?
November 3, 2008 - 13:51 ET by HeavyChevyI mean I understand its your right and all but...this is pretty big.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
Hopefully, they would have
November 3, 2008 - 14:20 ET by NewsbusterbrownHopefully, they would have voted for Obama. :-)
Voting for McCain-Palin tomorrow.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
I hope so.
November 3, 2008 - 14:25 ET by HeavyChevybecause I don't believe any NB'ers would ever think about not voting...trolls maybe?
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
Dern furriners
November 3, 2008 - 15:41 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsThere are some foreigners who blog here.
P.S. They are here legally.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
I cant vote...
November 3, 2008 - 16:23 ET by SRPwrdI cant vote...
Then you must not live
November 3, 2008 - 17:59 ET by FastEdin Chicago! or San Fran, parts of NJ, NY, Connecticut, Mass - - - or too young, felon, or a Barry relative.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Obamaramabama....
November 3, 2008 - 13:56 ET by Prester John...will be in my neck of the woods (Prince William County) for his last big rally. This county is considered ground zero for Virginia because it is the transitional county between the incredibly blue area inside the Beltway/purple area just outside the Beltway and the rest of the solidly red areas of the state towards the southwest. I don't know if this is simply a "get in McCain's face" maneuver or if BHO thinks he can win here.
The voting precinct I will work tomorrow as an election officer reliably goes 2-1 for the GOP and it will be interesting to see what the numbers will be tomorrow. I am guessing McCain will get over 70%. Unfortunately it is a rural precinct with only a couple of thousand voters.
Oh, and as I drove by the scene of the rally (the country fairgrounds) at noon, I noticed a number of high school aged kids hanging out waiting for the gates to open.
I guess they'll be getting academic credit for bowing down at the altar of Obama.
Howza about the kids bussed to McCain's rally...
November 3, 2008 - 15:21 ET by...of course, to their surprise they found out it was a McCain rally and not Obama's!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Why?
November 3, 2008 - 13:58 ET by CaringwhiteguyWhy all the early voting? Could it be THEY know there have been fewer poll watchers around early than there will be tomorrow?
Why all the early voting?
November 3, 2008 - 14:06 ET by vrwc13...walked in at 7:00am, and walked out at 7:05am...
Can you guess how I voted?
v
I voted early also! I
November 3, 2008 - 14:39 ET by TN MomI voted early also!
I wanted to be one of the first in Tennessee to cast my ballot for..
MCCAIN/PALIN
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN: SAVE THE COAL INDUSTRY JOBS!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN: KEEP UTILITY BILLS FROM SKYROCKETING!
early voting
November 3, 2008 - 13:59 ET by LorraineI think early voting is unConstitutional. So much can happen in those final weeks and you can't take your vote back.
I don't like mail voting either, it's too fraud prone. It was OK back when you had to have a legitimate excuse for an absentee ballot - away at college, in the military, etc. But it's out of control now. And how do you know your ballot actually got there?
I like voting at the polls on Election Day. I like the traditional feeling of everyone gathering together to cast their votes.
"...gathering together to cast their votes"
November 3, 2008 - 14:03 ET by Prester JohnI agree 100%. There is somethingto be said about standing in line with the your fellow citizens to vote. This whole idea of literally mailing in your ballot for those who don't have a valid reason to vote absentee cheapens the entire process.
Prester John, I don't like
November 3, 2008 - 14:42 ET by LibraryLadyPrester John, I don't like voting early but I do it because (like you) I am a certified election commissioner and know tomorrow will be very busy.
Louisiana has no restrictions for early voting but we DO require photo IDs and never have a problem.
Agreed. If its too
November 3, 2008 - 17:06 ET by Conservative VoiceAgreed. If its too crowded, then the election commissioner needs to open more booths, not open more days to vote. And people should be required to show proof that they are who they say they are. The faith of the electorate is fragile right now, and it will get worse if measures aren't taken to take voter fraud seriously. It is this faith that keeps America America, and not feeling the need to storm the castle with our pitchforks.
I'm voting today - actually
November 3, 2008 - 14:02 ET by MichelleCI'm voting today - actually mailing my ballot today since my county in Washington is absentee only (I don't like it either). I don't like to send it in too early - never know what might happen!
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
Wow... Michelle C... I
November 3, 2008 - 16:55 ET by bigtimerWow... Michelle C...
I didn't know there was a county in Wa. that is absentee only...it isn't King Co. is it?
I know Oregon is all absentee...is Wa. slowly but surely trying to go that way too?
I know you may note be here now...if you see this later and respond, I will check back...just curious.
I voted absentee too...we sent them in last week, we haven't had problems here in my area in Mt. but I know they have had fraud in the eastern part of Mt. last election.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Nope, not King!
November 3, 2008 - 19:32 ET by MichelleCI live in Thurston County (home to Olympia) and we're completely absentee. We voted on it a few years ago and unfortunately it passed. Other counties are leaning that way and anyone can request an absentee ballot. It used to be that you needed a valid reason for it like being out of state (we have a lot of military folks out here) or disabled, but not anymore.
King County doesn't need absentee voting to commit fraud. They have ACORN up there in Seattle and that's where all the kooky libs live!
Update: Okay I checked for you BT. All counties are absentee except for King and Pierce counties. At least that's what my research tells me! I've only ever voted in Thurston, Pierce and King so I can't speak absolutely about the others. (And no, I didn't vote in all three at once!)
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
where is "all of the above" for the dems?
November 3, 2008 - 14:02 ET by vrwc13...just wondered...
v
Have 1 voting day.
November 3, 2008 - 14:07 ET by pbthinkerHave just one voting day and make it a national holiday.
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.
I'd love to know who these "No, I'm not voting" people are!!!
November 3, 2008 - 14:26 ET by PrairieSkyIt is unbelieveable to me that any American who believes in America would not take advantage of their right to vote...Especially this year. As far as I'm concerned, if you choose not to vote, then you lose your right to gripe about the outcome or any of its repercussions.
My mother-in-law is a PUMA. She is currently undergoing chemotherapy, but despite that, she will be voting tomorrow, in Florida, for John McCain and Sarah Palin.
I will definitely be voting tomorrow for McCain/Palin!!!!!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Right on!
November 3, 2008 - 14:28 ET by MichelleCUnfortunately, I have a brother who does not vote. It frustrates me to no end and I have talked to him until I'm blue in the face. One year he complained that his property taxes had gone up (it was in part due to a school levy) - I let him have it. I told him he had no right to complain since he couldn't bother to connect some lines on a piece of paper and I wouldn't listen to it. He still doesn't vote, but he now keeps his mouth shut.
Don't worry, I keep trying to help him understand the importance of voting. I truly believe it's our greatest privilege and highest honor.
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
MichelleC...There's still time...Keep trying!!!
November 3, 2008 - 15:20 ET by PrairieSkyYou may still get through to him about how important our right to vote is. Our whole democratic system turns on our right to choose for ourselves who are leaders are!!
Hang in there!!!!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
No worries!
November 3, 2008 - 17:39 ET by MichelleCI won't ever give up! Thanks!
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
I was just wondering the same thing Prairie...
November 3, 2008 - 14:29 ET by HeavyChevyJust a thought
November 3, 2008 - 14:29 ET by BlondeBut maybe those who responded "not voting" are not eligible, and are conservatives, therefore won't actually cast a vote.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
That could be very well true Blonde..
November 3, 2008 - 15:00 ET by HeavyChevyas weird as it sounds it's just a little disheartening to see that's all. But I hope you are right.
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
As I said...just a stray thought, Heavy.
November 3, 2008 - 15:04 ET by BlondeWe do have alot of non-American visitors here.
Hoping, anyway, that THAT is the reason.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Blonde...That's a good point...
November 3, 2008 - 15:17 ET by PrairieSkyI hadn't thought of that.
That said, that better be the only reason that someone is not voting. It is unfathomable to me that any American who can vote and who gives a damn about their country would intentionally choose not to vote. I haven't missed an election since I was 18, and barring being trapped in a cave somewhere or being dead, wild horses couldn't keep me from voting.
Ever.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Early Voting
November 3, 2008 - 14:37 ET by GeneralAlI voted early as did most of my family. I live in the Chicago area and it is in the tank for Obama. I don't need to deal with the ignorant morons who remind me of rats following The Pied Piper! I used to be an election judge but gave it up after dealing with the brain dead idiots who come in to vote. You wonder what kind of dope their parents took during their conception! I honestly believe that if Obama is elected ,this will be the last free election in America. The Communist will have succeeded in overthrowing the government of this country without firing a shot! Remember, Obama says hes going to drasticly change America! If he is called to question on this, he'll remind everyone that he kept telling us this in the beginning. I just wish there was some degree of intelligence with the hypnotized voters to open their eyes before its too late!
what a bunch of hate.
November 3, 2008 - 14:46 ET by abeautifulpersondid you foam at the mouth when you banged this out on the typewriter?
its interesting to read your rant, riddled with typo's while calling others who don't agree with you as 'brain-dead' and 'idiots'.
did you ever consider with all your rage and hate that its intolerance like yours that is what's wrong with america?
newsflash: america will be standing long after the echoes fade from your last hateful rant. why don't you try another emotion for a change.
Oooh...the Spelling Police
November 3, 2008 - 14:50 ET by Blondehas morphed into the hall monitor.
Wazzup abp? Just mad you don't get to vote tomorrow? No one here cares what some foreigner (YOU) thinks about America. What do you not understand about that, hmmm?
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
They've been sold snake oil!
November 3, 2008 - 15:02 ET byAs the GOP has told their minions for years...'Vote against your best interests, you vote for our tax cut for our wealthy supporetrs and we'll try to pass anti-abortion laws and a host of other crap that will never see the light of day...thanks for your vote and cash! Suckers!" Bye, bye, GOP!!!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
blatherskite v
November 3, 2008 - 15:41 ET by vrwc13blatherskite
v
clearing it up
November 3, 2008 - 15:53 ET by dtaJust so you know, forcing the market to misallocate resources will
damage the economy. You have to think a few steps ahead to understand
that voting socialist is going to hurt us all.
newsflash: america will be
November 3, 2008 - 16:04 ET by Dan The Man 2newsflash: america will be standing long after the echoes fade from your last hateful rant. why don't you try another emotion for a change. - And we want it to be the founders vision for America not the Communist Obama's. I would like to know what is hateful about what he said? ABP you and your ilk always call something hateful if you disagree with it. I notice that true to your Troll nature you did not refute any of his rant with debate.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
ABP
November 3, 2008 - 16:14 ET by NorthCoasterYou see what you want in what you read. I certainly am missing your point. What hate, rage and intolerance do you perceive? There is noone threaghtening bodily harm, suggesting terribly vile personal things happening, or shouting vile epithets at others on this site. Some of us do at times get passionate about what does and doesn't make the news, which is as it should be when you care deeply about the state of the USA.
Contradictions collapse
November 3, 2008 - 17:57 ET by UnsaneLet's see here...anuglysocialist, a HATE-FILLED, angry Socialist, who blindly supports an ideology that foments hatred based on class and other lines of division, is whining about other people's "hateful posts".
Wow. The pot calling the kettle black. Contradictions collapse.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Right to vote
November 3, 2008 - 14:38 ET by vettemonThere is no such thing as a Right to Vote. Voting is a privilege.
"Vote early, vote often" -
November 3, 2008 - 14:44 ET by mattm"Vote early, vote often" - Al Capone (Well-known Chicago community organizer)
Landslide victory tomorrow...
November 3, 2008 - 14:48 ET byMcCain's biggest mistake...Caribou Barbie!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Prediction
November 3, 2008 - 14:55 ET by LionKingCome Wednesday, Übercon will be no where to be found.
As a plus, if he visits in the future we can always refer to President-elect McCain to quiet him.
You betcha!
November 3, 2008 - 15:12 ET byOkay LionKing,You got a bet as long as you do the same...or at least allow me to dance my victory dance all over this site...
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
ubie-con
November 3, 2008 - 16:06 ET by LionKingYour ignorance and lack of faith in America still dismays me.
blatherskite v
November 3, 2008 - 15:40 ET by vrwc13blatherskite v
McCain's biggest
November 3, 2008 - 16:01 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsMcCain's biggest mistake...Caribou Barbie!
Ubercon, since you think it's okay to call people names when you disagree with them, you'll agree it's fair if we come up with some names for Obama:
Herr Obama
Chimpy McStalin
Barack 'Curious George' Obama
Uncle Tom Barack
Barack Saddam Hussein Obama
Chimpy McKarlMarx
Osama Obama
Pol Pot Obama
Ghengis Obama
Benito Barack
Pinnochio Obama
Chimpy McHitler
Feel free to add to the list.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
I Really feel bad about this....
November 3, 2008 - 16:07 ET by Calypso Jonesbut when i first saw...'Caribou Barbie'. I thought....
jigabou ken
"I really feel bad about this..."?
November 3, 2008 - 17:30 ET byReally? Plenty of time to get those code words ready...Unbelievable just plain typical for most of you...go ahead and rant... Just remember to wear your sheets!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
You
November 3, 2008 - 19:51 ET by Calypso Jonesstarted it, bud.
Hey everybody... the
November 3, 2008 - 20:08 ET by Jack BauerHey everybody... the socialist liar ubercon-man is back with his phony politics.
ubercon: code for socialist liar.
just remember to wear your
November 3, 2008 - 20:25 ET by Dan The Man 2just remember to wear your sheets! - We aren't Democrat and it is well known the sheets were Democratic ideals. Byrd Grand Master KKK, yep,
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Uber, I got my best sheet back from the cleaner's just today...
November 3, 2008 - 20:32 ET by R D Helm...I had it heavily starched, too.
I also bought myself a new pointy hat, so I will be sure and look good when I am out in front of my local polling place and chasing off black voters tomorrow.
You know, I think most of us here are getting pretty f'ing fed-up with you and the rest of the trolls here constantly inferring that we here are racists.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Blame the ones who incite racial hatred...
November 3, 2008 - 21:20 ET by...through the words they choose. Stopping it from the start does not make me a racist for understanding the usage of the words of racial insensitivity. You say you're tired of hearing the claims of racism yet you do nothing to stop it when others spew their hate. I hope you get exhausted and worn out!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Blame the ones who incite
November 3, 2008 - 21:29 ET by TN MomBlame the ones who incite racial hatred
The MSM and the Democrat Party!!!!!!!
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!!!!!!
This from a guy who quotes Henry Ford...
November 3, 2008 - 21:34 ET by mastersofdeceitOne of the biggest jew haters to ever live. Such an inspiration to Hitler (mein kampf) that he had a picture of Ford in one of his offices.
Nice.
blatherskite v
November 3, 2008 - 20:44 ET by vrwc13blatherskite
v
Uber...You got your Mao Suit ready???
November 3, 2008 - 20:56 ET by TheSterTime for you to get out your LITTLE RED BOOK;
Practice your MARCHING IN LINE;
...and get your Red Flag Waving Technique down!!
Ster.
Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government.
Ever shop WalMart, comrade?
November 3, 2008 - 21:27 ET bySwizzle,When you start realizing this country supports China financially, the basis of your argument is silly.
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Also Ran Nuke em til they
November 3, 2008 - 16:10 ET by Dan The Man 2Also Ran
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
DFT
November 3, 2008 - 16:17 ET by NorthCoasterThanks for the list. We want to be ready to use any of the names when discussing the next President, if Obama wins. It only seems fitting to turn the tables on the Dems. What can they say when they've use similar names on George Bush.
Barry-O Herr
November 3, 2008 - 16:25 ET by R D HelmBarry-O
Herr Obamafuhrer
Obamessiah
The Manufactured Fraud that is Barrack Hussien Obama
Obamanation
The Lyin' King
The Exaulted, Most-High Ruler of the Universe for Life
LOL-I have one more, but not today.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Hey, now!!!
November 3, 2008 - 16:28 ET by LionKingIf I had a nickel for everytime a libtard called me "Lyin' King", I would be wealthy until Obama became president with his fellow socialists.
ummm...dave is not a lib.
November 3, 2008 - 17:38 ET bylionking,
<edited>
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
uber...you are daft
November 3, 2008 - 17:43 ET by LionKingI wasn't calling Dave a liberal. Dave did not call me "Lyin' King."
I was merely commenting on his use of liberal-handle which at times has been assigned to me.
Get a clue while you can still afford one.
Boy, oh boy...freedom of speech...not here.
November 3, 2008 - 19:52 ET byAll I said was out of work conservatives love socialist ideas on how to help and I get edited....nice!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Obamao
November 3, 2008 - 16:40 ET by Calypso Jonesor Obamaomao, in honor of his kenyan roots
Obamaniac
Comrade Obama,...
November 3, 2008 - 18:57 ET by azholmesOr that good old conservative favorite:
Mr. President
McNotObama2008.com
Will Early Voting Skew "Exit Polls"?
November 3, 2008 - 14:53 ET by PrieblesWe are hearing about record breaking early voting turnouts for Dems in the MSM. If that is the case, and if the majority of Republicans will be voting on Election Day...won't this skew the "Exit Polls" in McCains favor?
And if the early exit polls show McCain is ahead...will the MSM report it? Remember in 2004 exit poll data leaked and many commented on how well Kerry was doing in an attempt to suppress Republican votes out West.
Can you imagine Chris (Thrill up my leg) Matthews sitting on that information and not using it to get out the Obama votes in the MidWest and West? Me either.
I hit the wrong entry.
November 3, 2008 - 14:55 ET by Calypso JonesI meant to hit 'voting on election day'. So it should read 927 voting.
I'm calling the ACLU - You've been DISENFRANCHISED!
November 3, 2008 - 15:26 ET by Priebleseom
Just a Hunch.
November 3, 2008 - 15:00 ET by okiehawk44My guess is that when this "historic" election is over tomorrow, the next election in 2 years will not attract the massive early voting seen this time. Why? Because the novelty and historic opportunity will have passed and it will not be viewed in nearly the same way. If you can't get out to vote one day every year or two, you are lazy or stupid or both, and next time you will revert back to what and who you were in years past no matter if you are given two weeks or two months to vote.
Election Day should be the only day to vote
November 3, 2008 - 15:16 ET by kevinm13Election Day should be the only day to vote. Election laws need to be overhauled big time. Absentee ballots should be kept to a minimum particularly in Presidential election years. Election day is well known months and even years in advance so people should make arrangements to be at their polling place on election day. If they can't they should have to explain (and there should be a short list of excuses why people can vote using an absentee ballot) why they won't be voting in person.
Photo identification with some proof of citizenship needs to be mandatory. Many places don't require this. Ink everybody like they do in Iraq so that once inked, people can't vote again. Make voting machines recognize voter ID's like at the airport where I can scan my passport to check in for some international flights.
Voting is a priviledge that the left and those who need to are trying to make easier. Make it like driving a car and take it away if you are unworthy of voting.
It use to be that one had to
November 3, 2008 - 17:12 ET by Conservative VoiceIt use to be that one had to be an invested voter, ie someone who actually has to pay the taxes Congress passes. We're getting more and more voters who are voting socialism, because they don't have to pay the bill. Compound that problem with voter fraud, and it won't take long before this free land becomes something written about in the history books.
voted absentee
November 3, 2008 - 15:55 ET by dtaI voted absentee because it is more convenient. If I did not have that option, I would have voted in person.
double
November 3, 2008 - 15:53 ET by dtadelete
I'll be voting tomorrow,
November 3, 2008 - 16:10 ET by KJ_sezI'll be voting tomorrow, right before I go out shopping. Picking up some extra food and ammunition - just as a precautionary measure against "rioting" or "celebrating" which, as Mr. Shepherd pointed out, both look pretty much the same in some cities.
I demand real change - force a Democrat to speak the truth!
I'm voting for Obama
November 3, 2008 - 16:17 ET by NCguyI am a Republican. I voted Republican in the primary. I have never voted for a Democrat. My brothers in party, I just can't vote for McCain. I do not believe either men are evil or unpatriotic. Neither Socialist or communist. I simply have no faith in McCain's ability to manage this economy. I also believe Obama has the right position on Foreign Policy and veteran's support while at arms and at home. The time of the Hawks must pass. Like many others, I am not leaving the party...butI do feel as if the party left me over the last 8 years. Borrow and spend is even worse than tax and spend. Because of our fiscal irresponsibility we are set up for an even bigger fall...yet to come.
I am Republican but I am not a right winger. You may not agree with my position. That's ok. I have to believe our tent is big enough for a wide variety of republicans.
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November 3, 2008 - 16:21 ET by NorthCoasterYou might want to go check on Obama's Socialist pals who have helped him form his ideas over the years. They'll be in your pocket first then into your whole life. Be ready for reeducation when you decide that they are wrong for the US.
Well I'm a Democrat and I'm voting for McCain/Palin
November 3, 2008 - 16:22 ET by Dee Bunkso there - that wipes your silliness right out
So, NCguy, exactly how much is the Obummer camp paying you...
November 3, 2008 - 16:32 ET by R D Helm...to come in here and drop a load of BS like that?
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Right Dave - these people are so transparent
November 3, 2008 - 16:38 ET by Dee Bunkand this one obviously cut and paste his reply. You get all that gobblety gook at the bottom when you do that. He's probably posting the same reply on a bunch of Conservative blogs
Dee,
November 3, 2008 - 16:44 ET by R D HelmAll I had to do was click on his bio.
Member for 1 week 6 days
LOL-Like shooting fish in a barrel.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Ah what the hell....let the
November 3, 2008 - 16:47 ET by motherbeltAh what the hell....let the troll go.
Ah what the hell....let the
November 3, 2008 - 17:12 ET by Dan The Man 2Ah what the hell....let the troll go - Hey here's my Troll huntin license, and it says nothin bout catch and release on this blog. Is he undersize or somthin? Seems a bit undersize but you dont tell and I wont. Hehehe.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
smells like...
November 3, 2008 - 16:48 ET by katainkenteau d'Micheal Moore to me
MM
November 3, 2008 - 16:51 ET by LionKingSpeaking of Mikey Moore ... has he endorsed the Obamessiah?
Ncguy
November 3, 2008 - 16:38 ET by misterbillNCGUY
"I also believe Obama has the right position on Foreign Policy and veteran's support while at arms and at home."
Obama's position is--bent over spreading cheeks while drinking Kool-Aid. Kumbaya!
There will be no "at arms" under his administration if Obama can help it.
With your attitude, it's no wonder NC is overrun with illegals while your legal citizens cannot find work.
Where did you copy and paste this from?
November 3, 2008 - 16:40 ET by KarmaI know republicans; republicans are friends of mine. NCguy, you're no Republican.
No representation, without taxation!
Karma,
November 3, 2008 - 16:45 ET by R D HelmLOL-I am not sure he is even a real human.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Oh, right. You're a
November 3, 2008 - 16:45 ET by motherbeltOh, right. You're a Republican who agrees with all of Obama's Democratic policies.
<insert hysterical laughter>
Looking forward to your explanation of which Obama economic policies you especially like, or which of McCain's you dislike.
"I am Republican but I am
November 3, 2008 - 17:34 ET by ckc1227"I am Republican but I am not a right winger. You may not agree with my
position. That's ok. I have to believe our tent is big enough for a
wide variety of republicans."
There's already a tent for people like you. It's called the Democrat party.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
I did cut and paste
November 3, 2008 - 17:55 ET by NCguyAs someone who lives with dyslexia I rely heavily on spell checkers. I have a program I cut and paste my replies to spell and grammar check. Otherwise they can be hard to read.
As for the issues, I could argue my position with logic and reason and still not change your mindset. That's ok. However, I am conserned that your replies echo the taling points of Fox News and the Christian right. I see no original or critical though here.
I am a Republican for sure...and many of you are not acting like good republicans...or Christians for that matter. Jesus would probably post in here, "he who is with out sin cast the first stone."
Many of you represent yourself as a hate filled mob. If this IS the new Republican party, than I may as well start calling myself a Libertarian. However, I am convinced you are the minority voice in this great party.
Just curious, are you a
November 3, 2008 - 18:03 ET by dtaJust curious, are you a volunteer or do you get paid to post here?
this is the Grand Old Party
November 3, 2008 - 18:22 ET by TruthMongerthis is the Grand Old Party - Reaganites
you want hate check out your lib friends on dkos
as for Jesus - he's busy accepting 3000 slaughtered baby Americans into Heaven every day - too busy to post here most of the time - but he did post here once i remember - it was "Gay "marriage" my ass!!!"
and yes please call yourself a libertarian
hint hint: liberal saves you a few characters for tree hugging
Government is the "greedy capitalism" of marxists
Blame God...it's his creation to play with.
November 3, 2008 - 19:45 ET byFor all intents and purposes, he knows when your birth and death will happen according to his plan. It's not up to you to figure out his plan. If he decided to create the tools and people to do his bidding, by all means he has the right to play God...(sarc on)
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
Uber, you don't really know much about God do you?
November 3, 2008 - 21:17 ET by vrwc13...your ignorance is showing.
v
Good evening vr
November 3, 2008 - 21:27 ET by cocodrieRight you are. Uber and God are total strangers. Uber however is a close personal friend of ignorance.
Are you saying...
November 3, 2008 - 21:56 ET by...God as an all powerful, all knowing being cannot stop the practice of abortion? If God wanted to intervene he would have. You might want to stop battling God since he can stomp you whenever he wants. Ohhh, the madness!
Übercon
"The voice of dissent must be heard."-Henry Ford
The one thing you don't understand....
November 3, 2008 - 22:07 ET by MightyMouthis that God knows eternity, whereas you as soon to be nothing more than a pile of stiking meat (who will stand before him none the less). The point is, this life on earth (which you hold so dear) is all you will have while the Children of God have eternity to look forward to. Sorry you are jelous of that. but you are...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
God...cannot stop the practice of abortion?
November 4, 2008 - 09:16 ET by vrwc13He allows what He allows and He prevents what He prevents. He is God.
Three things you ought to know:
v
..God as an all powerful,
November 4, 2008 - 09:23 ET by motherbelt..God as an all powerful, all knowing being cannot stop the practice of abortion? If God wanted to intervene he would have.
It doesn't have anything to do with His "wanting" or "not wanting" to intervene. He gave us free will.
Why do you think God "allows" any evil at all to exist? Because He gave us free will.
It is not God's job to stop evil. It is ours.
Exactly MB
November 4, 2008 - 09:33 ET by cocodrieGod gave Adam control of this world but he turned control of it over to satan when he sinned. Jesus took back control of it when He rose from the dead but we have yet to take control of it from satan. As long as mankind follows satan instead of God there will be evil. I know this is oversimplication but it's the best I can do.
This is my point
November 3, 2008 - 20:57 ET by NCguy1. more abortions under bush than clinton...who I did not vote for.
2. What about the thosands of babies slaughtered as vitims of our forgieng wars?
If Jesus were alive today, I fear he would look at the voice of the republican party and walk away.
NCguy, you are kidding
November 3, 2008 - 21:15 ET by vrwc13NCguy, you are kidding right?
1. abortion - it's a liberal/democrat platform/issue, most conservatives abhor it
2. do the math - 40,000,000 aborted in the US alone in the past 35 years. Show me where that compares to any "victums" of our foreign wars.
I am sorry, your statements are just plain ignorant.
But more importantly...
If Jesus were alive today, I fear he would look at the voice of the republican party and walk away.
He doesn't look at any labels, He looks at the heart, and asks "Do you know Me?" "For I am the Truth and the Light, NO ONE comes to the Father except through ME." Got it? You might want to, your eternity depends on it.
v
RINOS...
November 3, 2008 - 21:19 ET by MightyMouthEven Sarah wont condem R.vWade as bad law. There is a strong case against it! Why not just say it?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
We are not hate filled but
November 3, 2008 - 20:29 ET by Dan The Man 2We are not hate filled but resent your message when not backed up with facts. I believe you don't know the first thing about Jesus.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
you're right
November 3, 2008 - 20:53 ET by NCguyAnd if you emulate the values of Jesus...I don't want to know him.
You do resent my message. You are frustrated because someone in your party does not spew with hate as you do here.
Even John McCain had to dial you guys back at his campaigns.
If you knew you were being manipulated to say and feel the things you do, would you feel resent then?
And if you emulate the values of Jesus..I don't want to know him
November 3, 2008 - 21:05 ET by vrwc13...oh but you do, your eternity hinges on it.
Now whether or not we are good examples, should not hinder you on making the most important decision in your life.
Just remember, us believers aren't perfect, just forgiven. How about you?
v
If you knew you were being
November 3, 2008 - 21:19 ET by Dan The Man 2If you knew you were being manipulated to say and feel the things you do, would you feel resent then? - You Troll and do not debate, we dislike Trolls here. Jesus loves you and instructs me to tell you teh Good News. Of course first you have to have ears to hear.
We are pretty sure you are not a Republican or conservative, just Trolling.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Nothing new
November 4, 2008 - 08:28 ET by NCguyWhy is the hard rights method of debate to repeat youself with increasing volume. It still doens't mean you are correct.
I have been a card carrying Republican since I was first able to vote. Ignorant rhetoric doesn't change that. Deal with it.
Keep kicking people out of the tent and you will loose all relavance. You may as well break off and form a new party called the neo-christian party.
You are not reflecting the true values of the planks of our party.
If you wear a dress, does that make you a woman?
November 4, 2008 - 09:24 ET by KarmaI suggest you read the socialist platform and the republican platform and then come back here and show us in writing whos planks are making you walk funny. Get a map and compass. You're in the wrong tent.
No representation, without taxation!
Republican values are
November 4, 2008 - 10:32 ET by NCguyRepublican values are civic virtue and opposition to aristocracy and corruption. This was the original intent of the republican party. Only in recent years was the platform taken over by the religious right as a way to add and push thier agenda.
As a republican I value life, liberty, right to personal privacy, freedom of speach, the press and religion,
No.
November 4, 2008 - 11:07 ET by KarmaYou don't.
Who's Life? How many months out of the year does your liberty loving butt want to be enslaved to the government? Does your freedom of speech include the fairness doctrine?
Many recent changes show the clear differences with the platform of the democrats who have been adding planks of communism at a feverish pace.
Choose your platform or build your own. Although we will always keep them, no one is holding a gun to your head.
No representation, without taxation!
NCguy, you don't even qualify as a RINO.
November 4, 2008 - 09:29 ET by R D HelmBut you do cut it as an Obamafuhrer troll. :-)
-Dave
I voted. Have you?
o'rly?
November 3, 2008 - 18:25 ET by katainkentAs the wife of a 21 yr vet for the USN do please explain this position. I would like to hear it.
NCguy...I have news for you...
November 3, 2008 - 21:01 ET by PrairieSkyI don't know what your definition of "Republican" is, but you need to investigate it. Let me give you a clue...There is no way that anyone, ANYONE, can know, understand and embrace what it means to be a Republican and what we believe, and then vote for Barack Obama. No way. What Obama believes and what Republicans believe are diametrically opposed. You might as well go all the way and change your party affiliation, because you are definitely not a Republican.
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
I'll be voting tomorrow,
November 3, 2008 - 16:52 ET by KJ_sezdelete - double post
I voted already
November 3, 2008 - 16:48 ET by Adam_MEI was out at a restaurant last night with my fiancee, my best friend, his dad, and 2 other friends. All of us have voted already. And we've all seen long lines at the polls. Turnout is gonna be huge this election.
Although it's worth noting that the people turning out mirror the electorate in past years(i.e. middle age and older voters with very few 20-somethings). My honest opinion is that whichever candidate gets their base to show up will win the election.
I'm stuck in Oregon with
November 3, 2008 - 17:25 ET by lnthompI'm stuck in Oregon with voting-by-mail and no polling place to go to on election day. However, the elections office does have a ballot collection box that can be used instead of trusting the mail. I dropped my ballot in the collection box more than a week ago. Now I just have to hope the collection box drop doesn't feed into a shredder!
Lee T.
I am a far right
November 3, 2008 - 17:32 ET by ckc1227I am a far right Conservative who believes in the Constitution and Capitalism, and who does not believe in killing babies. But because McCain isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, I am voting for Obama, a freshman senator with zero experience, questionable associations, and who stands for everything I stand against. Because, you know, that's the logical choice.
Really, I am. I'm serial. I mean, there's just something about his campaign of running on nothing more than "I'm not Bush" that tells me he knows EXACTLY what to do to solve current economic problems. You know, because Capitalism only works 99% of the time, clearly it is a failure. It's time to give Socialism a try.
I have also been a good boy this year. I sure hope Santa Claus notices and flies his sleigh to my house this Christmas Eve.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
I expect you got plenty of
November 4, 2008 - 11:54 ET by lnthompI expect you got plenty of good stuff from The Great Pumpkin as well!
Lee T.
Non voters
November 3, 2008 - 17:44 ET by doug1950Non voting citizens:
By not voting you are literally voting for Obama. GWB won in 2000 by 537 votes giving him the necessary 25 electoral votes to win the election. So, every vote does count!!! and does make a difference. By not voting, you are giving away your vote to be used against you and a God given right and priviledge.
John McCain's Plan
November 3, 2008 - 18:03 ET by NCguyMore taxes, more spending, no regulation. Prosperity there it goes.
Obama's plan
Less taxes, Smarter spending, better regulation. Prosperity still may not come.
Prosperity will come when we end the Bush Doctrine, correct the trade deficit, end the unfair trade policies, restore the dollar and become an economy that produces products for the world. Our service based society is our down fall.
Three Bags Full
November 3, 2008 - 18:28 ET by Blonde'Nuf said!
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Clinton Promised a Tax Cut Too
November 3, 2008 - 18:37 ET by WVDinoI voted for Clinton in 1992 on the promise of a tax cut. My taxes went up. That was the last democrat for President I voted for.
Republican my a$$. You are a lying libtroll on Obama's payroll.
November 3, 2008 - 18:41 ET by R D HelmObama is going to lower taxes???
ROFL-That statement alone is so transparently false it doesn't even merit a response.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
so transparently false it doesn't even merit a response
November 3, 2008 - 20:46 ET by NCguyTransparent? Once you clear your way through the rhetoric, I and every major economist...including MANY republican economist, secretary of states, and even Regan's Chief of Staff endorse Obama's plan.
So you're telling me you know better than Warren Buffet? Let's compare bank accounts shall we? Then talk about economics.
When Alan Greenspan admits the fundamental basis of his economic philosophy was flawed...we have a problem. Certainly one that McCain's do nothing economic plan can better.
Three Bags Full
November 3, 2008 - 20:56 ET by BlondeIn his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Oh good. Perhaps you can
November 3, 2008 - 21:21 ET by Hero SquadOh good. Perhaps you can explain to me the logic of Obama's plan to soak successful busineses with windfall taxes, yet at the same time dissuade them from taking their business overseas,where they will not be subjected to said windfall taxes.
If you are indeed a conservative, you see that the logic of the Obama tax plan is flawed, and is simply a ruse playing to a populist audience.
*
Hero's "retro" blog. / "People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
NCguy, actually, a do-nothing economic plan...
November 4, 2008 - 00:02 ET by R D Helm...at least as it pertains to government, would be the best course of action here.
Funny that most of the people you named are the very ones that helped put us in this position in the first place. To hell with them.
Truly "free" markets haven't existed in this country since before I was born in 1964. Maybe its time to give them a chance to work.
All Obummer is going to do, if elected, is flail around and make this a much deeper and longer-lasting recession than it need be.
-Dave
The MSM is the 21st Century version of the Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Obvious troll by posts, not
November 3, 2008 - 18:50 ET by bigtimerObvious troll by posts, not even one bit sneaky...time to move on and ignore, let it stew in it's own juices with no one paying attention.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Socialism
November 3, 2008 - 20:53 ET by TN MomOur service based society is our down fall.
Tell that to 'Big Government' Obama and his Dem buddies!!
Jimmy Carter says
November 3, 2008 - 23:51 ET by ckc1227Jimmy Carter says hello.
"Obama's plan Less taxes, Smarter spending, better regulation. Prosperity still may not come."
Obama's plan: Fool the suckers. Clearly you've been on your knees for some time now. Next up is his "bend over and take it" plan. I hope at least Michelle gives me a kiss as her husband screws us all. I guess next you'll be telling us that Bush only gave tax cuts to the rich.....
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
It's costing me $33.00 for my son to vote.
November 3, 2008 - 18:26 ET by azholmesHe just moved up to Seattle, and is not yet a resident, so I "next-day"-ed his absentee ballot to him ($16.50) , he is "next-day"-ing it back ($16.50). I hope he gets it right, or it could cost me much more...
McNotObama2008.com
Already voted
November 3, 2008 - 19:21 ET by ChaitealoverI started voting absentee before I retired, because I worked so far from home. Now it's a habit, but I learn all I can about the candidates and the ballot initiatives before sending it in.
Chai
“The beauty of our system isn’t that we have the right to vote. No, the nice thing is that people who are too dumb or lazy or uninformed to bother casting a ballot aren’t compelled to vote.” Burt Prelutsky
Chai... I can
November 3, 2008 - 19:37 ET by bigtimerChai...
I can relate...you have more time to learn and read all the measures they have on the ballot and investigate them ect., if you have any questions about them, in the booth you really don't, plus depending on the sponsors of the bills they want passed... it depends so much on how they place the wording, INTENTIONALLY...you may think you are voting for or against something if you do not read it carefully...especially if you are in the booth and know nothing about the subject.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
A prime example of intentional misleading wording
November 4, 2008 - 00:43 ET by Chaitealoveris Prop 8 here in CA. Our very liberal AG Jerry Brown [formerly known as Governor Moonbeam] changed the title from one which told the intentions of the proposition's writers to restore the meaning of the word 'marriage' to mean only between one man and one woman to "Eliminates the right of same-sex couples to marry," a 'right' they didn't have until 4 liberal judges gave it to them just this year, in spite of the votes [twice] of more than 60% of California's voters.
Chai
“The beauty of our system isn’t that we have the right to vote. No, the nice thing is that people who are too dumb or lazy or uninformed to bother casting a ballot aren’t compelled to vote.” —Burt Prelutsky
Proudly voted for
November 3, 2008 - 20:12 ET by ncovertProudly voted for McCain/Palin! So nervous about the post office, I hand delivered my absentee ballot to the elections office!!! I am more nervous about tomorrow...pray...
Meet me in the bread line to start the new revolution...nc
I voted last week. I
November 3, 2008 - 20:19 ET by ConservativeRexI voted last week. I vote only Republican, and if someone doesn't like that, they can KMA. Have a nice day.
I voted "yes" because I
November 3, 2008 - 20:32 ET by Roger the ShrubberI voted "yes" because I voted in Ohio last week.
I also voted "No but I will today" because I voted in WVa today.
Finally, I voted "No, I'm voting Election Day" because I am voting in PA Tuesday.
Thank God for lax voting rules!
Rog - how the heck are you
November 3, 2008 - 21:14 ET by HermanoRog - how the heck are you going to get to Florida in time?
http://theobamafile.com/
Flight leaves at noon...
November 4, 2008 - 07:58 ET by Roger the ShrubberFlight leaves at noon... :)
Problem is with RINO's
November 3, 2008 - 22:32 ET by afuelProblem is with RINO's like NCguy. They say they are Republican or Conservative but he couldn't have very strong convictions about his beliefs if he/she is now willing to vote for a socialist. Obama has such a nothing record and a history of socialist/marxist friends, no access to his school records/products, anti-american values it is easy to lay the socialist baggage on him and he can't refute it, hasn't even tried. Even his two books make him suspect to his love of this country. He is sticking to his basic story from day one. Same thing he did to Hillary with the MSM in full support/attack mode for him.
No Obama Ever
NCguy isn't a Republican,
November 3, 2008 - 23:58 ET by ckc1227NCguy isn't a Republican, he's a liberal.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Election Day
November 3, 2008 - 22:43 ET by BondPlainBondIs my birthday!
*S* Coolest birthday ever. Every so often it falls on Election Day.
It's Laura Bush's birthday, too.
Happy B'day Bond!
November 3, 2008 - 23:34 ET by BlondeWishing you all the best....and everything your heart desires!
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
Now we know...
November 3, 2008 - 23:24 ET by ScrapironNow we know that Hussein O truly intends to turn the U.S. in to a third world SH. What else can you think when he vows to bankrupt businesses which provide 50% of the electric power to America. I can see anyone who votes for Hussein O flip a light switch and nothing happens and they spend a few days and nights during the winter with no heat. I don't care where you live or what you heat with you need the electricity to power the blower.
Anyone who votes for Hussein O should burn their bibles before going to the polls and close their eyes if they pass a church. You can't claim to be a Christian, Jew, or catholic and support someone who voted (and pushed through) for the 'born alive' act which murders babies after they are born breathing and screaming. That is cold blooded murder in any book.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
non-citizen fan
November 3, 2008 - 23:25 ET by TjexciteI had to vote No, as a non-citizen fan I am not allowed. I am sure ACORN has stuffed enough for Obama and Die-bole with the VRW will cancel each other out. Maybe if Obama get in that too will be changed. In 2012 the vote will be by text message (standard texting fees) and open to all members of the world.
One last time now make it happen McCain/Palin '08
My family voted a week ago
November 4, 2008 - 01:28 ET by soulpileMy family voted a week ago and drove our ballots down to the election office (don't trust the USPS...). We voted early because we spent the entire weekend looking up the records of everyone on the ballot - judges and all. Since we filled out the early ballots, why not just take them in? Personally, I would have taken my ballot in tomorrow, but nothing would change my vote. This election campaign has gone on so long, my mind was made up in February - No Obama, no matter what.
GO AND VOTE!!!!
November 4, 2008 - 04:55 ET by Ole_SargeI didn't serve 22 years in the USAF (and watching my absentee ballots getting dumped) for you all not to vote.
So vote!!!
I am not up at this early hour, packing my van to go and set up the local polling place and then spend my entire day, and half the night there to ensure you have a place to vote, for you not to vote.
My "personal" enemies today aren't political parties or candidates, it's apathy.
Get up, take the coffee with you, go and vote!
Been out sick...haven't been
November 4, 2008 - 08:15 ET by semolina_filcherBeen out sick...haven't been able to post comments for a week. Anyway, waiting for polls to open here in liberal CA. Ole Sarge, I'm like you. except I'm no longer in active duty. Don't worry, I'll make your vote count.
McCAIN-PALIN 2008!
My patriotic speech...
November 4, 2008 - 08:27 ET by semolina_filcherI'm going to vote like my life and family depended on it. I am a very hardworking, middle class, average American who is guided by values dear to my heart that happens to be conservative in principles. I don't want my taxes supporting those people who are here illegally (Aunt Zeituni), too lazy to find employment because of government handouts (see welfare recipients), and supporting organizations that differ from my views (ACORN). I am going to be a vote that is going to count for the betterment of this country that I loved so much and served with my life on the line. I will vote Country first before everything else. I will vote McCain-Palin 08.
God help us all.
I have another idea!
November 4, 2008 - 08:48 ET by AmericanEnergistWe all have heard about early voting - how about LATE voting?
THE TEMPLATE: The MSM supresses the vote by announcing the East Coast goes all blue - then the red voters in midwestern and western states are bummed out and don't vote.
With LATE voting, the Eastern states polls close and the polls in the midwest and west stay open an extra 12 hours or so.
Might that change things? I'm watching different channels this morning and Obama's transition team has appointed all their cabinet and federal judges. As for Sen. Diety, he's laying out his agenda for the second term.
www.ArmchairEnergist...