Really now. We are shocked by this? C'mon folks; she is nothing but a bear pooping in the woods. She being the MSM, the poop being the lies that they perpetuate and a stupid public serves as the woods.
I picked undecided because of all of this hub-bub about her book now, she will have to be very fair and balanced now or the criticism will fly on some network shows with various guest speaking out on the right side of the aisle.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
Libs cover for each other no matter what. Did you ever watch Meet the Press? They all praise each other and nod and smile at each other as if there really were only one possible opinion.
There is no chck and balance in the MSM -- and PBS is virtually untouchable because they have been declared as "for the public good". No way anything she does tonight gets criticized.
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I know that, I could be wrong, but I have seen her before as a moderator/questioner on a panel with others, she seemed fair to me back then, that's just me though.
...this was up to McCain and his camp to check out thoroughly, they have only themselves to blame as far as I am concerned, they never insisted on one of the debates be on Fox...why is that...hmmmm?
Palin should be able to handle all of this just fine anyway...well, I hope.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
BT - McCain dropped the ball on this as they have on other issues.
The only thing Palin can do is congratulate Ifill on her book in her opening remarks and humerously hope that sales of her book are not as successful as she hopes because that will only happen if Obama wins.
That would innoculate Palin for the entire debate and place pressure on Ifill to be more than fair to her.
I agree BT, with an additional reason. If Gwen does not act as a professional on the same level of conduct as Jim Lehrer did with the first debate, it will reflect very poorly on PBS. It's bad enough that every year funding for PBS is under attack, her poor performance would give those who despise PBS the final weapon to defund it. Given her history and book, we now have three people under the microscope during the VP debates, Palin, Biden and Ifill. The big question is can she like Jim Lehrer conduct herself with decorum regardless of her political views. Everyone has a political view, even those who claim they don't (they are apolotical, which is a political view of apathy), the issue is are you willing to allow others to make up their own minds without your unsolicited help.
Whether or not you support federal and state funding for PBS, Gwen Ifill's conduct will determine the future level of support PBS gets in Congress. Literally thousands of jobs are on the line with her performance. With the newspaper industry imploding, the TV networks declining the last thing anyone at PBS needs is to have some foolish person make the case that PBS is just a liberal jobs program on national TV. I hope Ifill is listening, stop drinking the koolaid, you don't want to go there.
With all the publicity and the fact that more people now know of Ifill's book, she has even more of a need to remain impartial. If not all of America will know she's biased and her credibility (whatever she has left) is shot. I doubt she will risk that, but liberals aren't the brightest light in the chandelier
Rest assured, the rest of the media will spin it to make her look impartial. They should have had a second moderator to truly balance it out, Hannity or Rush perhaps?
I have been thinking about this all morning. Yes, everyone will be watching and as I said earlier she will have to tread carefully. However, over the last few months, I can not believe how esteemed reporters (that I have listened to for years) like Andrea Mitchell, Lee Cowen, (all those guys at NBC) have just abandoned their objectivity and integrity. I truly believe they feel that electing OBama is more important than their careers. I think they feel that if they lose some credibilty, so be it, but once he is elected they will get back in line and try and recoup their reputations.
Ordinarily I would agree with you. I think (hope) that with the publicity the past few days, she will behave. And then gloat afterward, if she actually succeeds in getting equal guff from both the left and right about how unfair she was.
Using media driven polls. She should win the election.
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I voted 'yes', but that vote only counts for the upcoming debate and nothing else. John Fund of the WSJ was a guest on the Victoria Taft show (local conservative radio babe) here in Oregon yesterdayand expressed the same opinion seen here: with all the uproar about whether she is fair and whether she has a conflict of interest, now she HAS TO BE the best-behaved and fairest moderator you ever could hope for because everyone is going to be watching and scoring her based on the publicity.
I trust Gwen to be what she is, a typical agenda driven propagandist. Let her conduct the debate; force her to do better by illuminating her bias if she fails to keep it to herself.
Why should she try to hide her partisanship? I expect her to be blatantly biased and unafraid of the consequences. If she succeeds in making Sarah look bad she will be praised by the people whose opinions she actually cares about. Do you think this woman cares if conservatives don't approve of her performance? I don't! I believe she is a foot soldier for Obama and would happily take one for the team if it helps the cause! I am rarely surprised in life anymore and I doubt that I will be tonight.
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Me to, looking at her resent past concerning Palin, plus that fact that everyone else will cover for her, I believe all of the question will be directed from the left.
I do not trust the objectivity of this woman any more than I trust the objectivity of the assorted talking heads that will analyze this debate after the fact. Sarah Palin is not going to win this debate, regardless how she actually performs, in the eyes of the mainstream media; this includes the moderator herself.
had Dick Morris on his show last night discussing how much money ifill would make from the sale of her book if bho is elected. As I remember it was nearing one million dollars if the book was a real hit when he won. Money talks.
I'm sure hoping Palin is aware of the moderator's bias and tears her up for it. If it forces them to be more combative than McCain was, then we should be in for a show.
This poll made me burst out laughing as it is just wonderful to see Ms. Ifill now in that Obama sheen of humiliation being outed for the Marxists they are.
Oprah is man enough to come out and say she is a bigot not interested in American fairness, but Ifill sits there and will make the claim of fairness.
My only question for Ifill is this:
Why is it Joe Biden is running around like a lounge lizard prowling around for dates?
Ms. Ifill didn't happen in fairness to have while talking to the Obama clique drop her questions "mistakenly" out of a folder onto David Plouffe's desk so plagiarist Joe could bone up on the answers now would she?
Look for Ifill's fair questions to run somehting like this:
Given EXPERIENCE is of most importance to American voters and America requires a STRONG, EXPERIENCED person who can be a heartbeat away from the presidency, what do you think should be the correct policy on PAKISTAN.
Watch Ifill's questions as they will use code words directly from pollsters that will touch on ways to smear Gov. Palin.
We are like sheep being led to slaughter. We want to be considered politically correct and polite as the fireing squad load their weapons in front of us!
I listen to NPR pretty much every day. Ifill is a dire partisain who would not know objective if it smacked her in the face. During the last election cycle when she came on her voice dripped with venoem and she never took a middle of the road position. Of course the last NPR personality surprised me.
If Obama loses and her book gets released on the day that McCain is innaugurated, it is going to be fairly worthless.
So she has a commercial interest in the election being decided a particular way. It is almost impossible to claim objectivity in that circumstance.
Palin should consistently try to bring in her experiance of cleaning up politics and ethics problems just like the one we are presented with tonight with you, Ms. Ifill.
Palin: "My experience involves cleaning up corruption and conflicts of interest in Government, just like the one you have tonight, Ms. Ifill. Some of those people ended up in jail, MS. Ifill".
oh-oh-oh...ouch. If Palin did that, you can bet it'd be either edited out of press reports, or spun as pettiness to deflect the issue of [insert media-invented Palin problem here].
This woman will be objective all right. She will run this debate with the objective of making sure Joe Biden comes out looking like St. Peter to Barry's Messiah and ensuring that Palin looks like a twisted evil extremist (though anyone with an R behind their name who isn't a RINO is a twisted evil extremist in the minds of the MSM).
This woman will be objective all right. She will run this debate with the objective of making sure Joe Biden comes out looking like St. Peter to Barry's Messiah and ensuring that Palin looks like a twisted evil extremist (though anyone with an R behind their name who isn't a RINO is a twisted evil extremist in the minds of the MSM).
Gwen Ifill is the principal caldron stirrer at the coven otherwise known as NPR's Washington Week. She has already demonstrated her complete lack of veracity by not revealing her upcoming book to the debate commission let alone the McCain campaign.
As a federal entity the debate commission is subject to the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA). A request for Ifill's completed application/qualification form should immediately be requested. If present on the form, her personal information (SSAN, medical information, credit history, etc.) appropriately should be redacted. If the form requires disclosure of relevant information about potential conflicts of interest such as her book and she omitted it, then any and all penalties on the form or of the process should be enforced to the full extent of the law.
If she did report it and McCain's camp didn't catch it then it is bad on them. The only sticking point could be that she reported the book's title but not its sub-title. I'd say that's a case of lying by omission and should lessen her creds now and forever.
This is one of those times you can't unring the bell; as the debate will be over by the time any of this gets resolved but the facts should be accurately reported.
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Too bad there was
October 2, 2008 - 11:44 ET by Clear thinkerToo bad there was no choice for "No and Hell No!"
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October 2, 2008 - 11:47 ET by jefflebowskiThat poll question response was pretty easily predicted for those who visit the NB site.
What's the next poll question going to be? Would you let Keith Olbermann near your children?
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C'mon
October 2, 2008 - 11:49 ET by cvgbuckeyeReally now. We are shocked by this? C'mon folks; she is nothing but a bear pooping in the woods. She being the MSM, the poop being the lies that they perpetuate and a stupid public serves as the woods.
SHOCKING!
Darnit, Ct, you beat me to it.
October 2, 2008 - 12:25 ET by R D Helm:-)
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I picked undecided because
October 2, 2008 - 11:46 ET by bigtimerI picked undecided because of all of this hub-bub about her book now, she will have to be very fair and balanced now or the criticism will fly on some network shows with various guest speaking out on the right side of the aisle.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Disagree
October 2, 2008 - 11:58 ET by jakotaLibs cover for each other no matter what. Did you ever watch Meet the Press? They all praise each other and nod and smile at each other as if there really were only one possible opinion.
I agree
October 2, 2008 - 12:06 ET by ThisnThatThere is no chck and balance in the MSM -- and PBS is virtually untouchable because they have been declared as "for the public good". No way anything she does tonight gets criticized.
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Hi jak... I know that, I
October 2, 2008 - 12:08 ET by bigtimerHi jak...
I know that, I could be wrong, but I have seen her before as a moderator/questioner on a panel with others, she seemed fair to me back then, that's just me though.
...this was up to McCain and his camp to check out thoroughly, they have only themselves to blame as far as I am concerned, they never insisted on one of the debates be on Fox...why is that...hmmmm?
Palin should be able to handle all of this just fine anyway...well, I hope.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Agree
October 2, 2008 - 12:21 ET by Gat New YorkBT - McCain dropped the ball on this as they have on other issues.
The only thing Palin can do is congratulate Ifill on her book in her opening remarks and humerously hope that sales of her book are not as successful as she hopes because that will only happen if Obama wins.
That would innoculate Palin for the entire debate and place pressure on Ifill to be more than fair to her.
I agree BT, with an
October 2, 2008 - 12:21 ET by dscottI agree BT, with an additional reason. If Gwen does not act as a professional on the same level of conduct as Jim Lehrer did with the first debate, it will reflect very poorly on PBS. It's bad enough that every year funding for PBS is under attack, her poor performance would give those who despise PBS the final weapon to defund it. Given her history and book, we now have three people under the microscope during the VP debates, Palin, Biden and Ifill. The big question is can she like Jim Lehrer conduct herself with decorum regardless of her political views. Everyone has a political view, even those who claim they don't (they are apolotical, which is a political view of apathy), the issue is are you willing to allow others to make up their own minds without your unsolicited help.
Whether or not you support federal and state funding for PBS, Gwen Ifill's conduct will determine the future level of support PBS gets in Congress. Literally thousands of jobs are on the line with her performance. With the newspaper industry imploding, the TV networks declining the last thing anyone at PBS needs is to have some foolish person make the case that PBS is just a liberal jobs program on national TV. I hope Ifill is listening, stop drinking the koolaid, you don't want to go there.
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I picked no, but...
October 2, 2008 - 11:54 ET by MeanderingWith all the publicity and the fact that more people now know of Ifill's book, she has even more of a need to remain impartial. If not all of America will know she's biased and her credibility (whatever she has left) is shot. I doubt she will risk that, but liberals aren't the brightest light in the chandelier
Rest assured, the rest of
October 2, 2008 - 11:57 ET by Scuba DudeRest assured, the rest of the media will spin it to make her look impartial. They should have had a second moderator to truly balance it out, Hannity or Rush perhaps?
I have been thinking about
October 2, 2008 - 12:15 ET by SeashellI have been thinking about this all morning. Yes, everyone will be watching and as I said earlier she will have to tread carefully. However, over the last few months, I can not believe how esteemed reporters (that I have listened to for years) like Andrea Mitchell, Lee Cowen, (all those guys at NBC) have just abandoned their objectivity and integrity. I truly believe they feel that electing OBama is more important than their careers. I think they feel that if they lose some credibilty, so be it, but once he is elected they will get back in line and try and recoup their reputations.
wow
October 2, 2008 - 11:55 ET by XJ.Jon8 votes for yes.
She's doing pretty good!
I think they're
October 2, 2008 - 12:01 ET by mattmMaybe they're interpreting 'objectivity' in the sense that her 'objective' is to get Odumbo elected.
Ordinarily I would agree
October 2, 2008 - 12:05 ET by lnthompOrdinarily I would agree with you. I think (hope) that with the publicity the past few days, she will behave. And then gloat afterward, if she actually succeeds in getting equal guff from both the left and right about how unfair she was.
Lee T.
Using media driven polls.
October 2, 2008 - 12:04 ET by danboUsing media driven polls. She should win the election.
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I voted 'yes', but that
October 2, 2008 - 12:02 ET by lnthompI voted 'yes', but that vote only counts for the upcoming debate and nothing else. John Fund of the WSJ was a guest on the Victoria Taft show (local conservative radio babe) here in Oregon yesterdayand expressed the same opinion seen here: with all the uproar about whether she is fair and whether she has a conflict of interest, now she HAS TO BE the best-behaved and fairest moderator you ever could hope for because everyone is going to be watching and scoring her based on the publicity.
Lee T.
I trust Gwen to be what she is...
October 2, 2008 - 12:09 ET by ThalpyI trust Gwen to be what she is, a typical agenda driven propagandist. Let her conduct the debate; force her to do better by illuminating her bias if she fails to keep it to herself.
»→ Ifill
October 2, 2008 - 12:22 ET by Cool ArrowYes, I trust her objectivity, but I'd rather Maxine Waters were the moderator.
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What? AA has voted 34 times?
October 2, 2008 - 12:28 ET by R D HelmSo far.
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Gibson & Couric Got Away With It
October 2, 2008 - 12:30 ET by BigSpoon65BigSpoon65
Why should she try to hide her partisanship? I expect her to be blatantly biased and unafraid of the consequences. If she succeeds in making Sarah look bad she will be praised by the people whose opinions she actually cares about. Do you think this woman cares if conservatives don't approve of her performance? I don't! I believe she is a foot soldier for Obama and would happily take one for the team if it helps the cause! I am rarely surprised in life anymore and I doubt that I will be tonight.
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Me to, looking at her
October 2, 2008 - 12:39 ET by general companyMe to, looking at her resent past concerning Palin, plus that fact that everyone else will cover for her, I believe all of the question will be directed from the left.
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I do not trust the
October 2, 2008 - 12:43 ET by SmartypantsI do not trust the objectivity of this woman any more than I trust the objectivity of the assorted talking heads that will analyze this debate after the fact. Sarah Palin is not going to win this debate, regardless how she actually performs, in the eyes of the mainstream media; this includes the moderator herself.
Bill O'Reilly
October 2, 2008 - 12:49 ET by DEVILDOCMOMhad Dick Morris on his show last night discussing how much money ifill would make from the sale of her book if bho is elected. As I remember it was nearing one million dollars if the book was a real hit when he won. Money talks.
One thing I will say...
October 2, 2008 - 12:55 ET by Saint ZeroI'm sure hoping Palin is aware of the moderator's bias and tears her up for it. If it forces them to be more combative than McCain was, then we should be in for a show.
Next poll question: Do you
October 2, 2008 - 12:57 ET by balboaNext poll question: Do you think the sky is green?
Results will be about the same.
Don't be so sure, bal.
October 2, 2008 - 13:13 ET by KarmaThis could also be seen as a political warning. I would vote yes.
Gwen Ifill is objective like Joe Goebbels was Objective
October 2, 2008 - 13:00 ET by Lame CherryThis poll made me burst out laughing as it is just wonderful to see Ms. Ifill now in that Obama sheen of humiliation being outed for the Marxists they are.
Oprah is man enough to come out and say she is a bigot not interested in American fairness, but Ifill sits there and will make the claim of fairness.
My only question for Ifill is this:
Why is it Joe Biden is running around like a lounge lizard prowling around for dates?
Ms. Ifill didn't happen in fairness to have while talking to the Obama clique drop her questions "mistakenly" out of a folder onto David Plouffe's desk so plagiarist Joe could bone up on the answers now would she?
Look for Ifill's fair questions to run somehting like this:
Given EXPERIENCE is of most importance to American voters and America requires a STRONG, EXPERIENCED person who can be a heartbeat away from the presidency, what do you think should be the correct policy on PAKISTAN.
Watch Ifill's questions as they will use code words directly from pollsters that will touch on ways to smear Gov. Palin.
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Trust a Black Liberal Journalist?
October 2, 2008 - 13:10 ET by ChasvsTrust, what is there to trust?
We are like sheep being led to slaughter. We want to be considered politically correct and polite as the fireing squad load their weapons in front of us!
Wake up America!
I listen to NPR pretty much
October 2, 2008 - 13:12 ET by Dan The Man 2I listen to NPR pretty much every day. Ifill is a dire partisain who would not know objective if it smacked her in the face. During the last election cycle when she came on her voice dripped with venoem and she never took a middle of the road position. Of course the last NPR personality surprised me.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Trust Ifill??
October 2, 2008 - 13:24 ET by iveseenitallI've said it before and I'll say it again:
NEVER, NEVER TRUST A "LIBERAL"
Never,Never trust a "liberal"
Ditto...!!!
October 2, 2008 - 13:41 ET by LionKingThink About it....
October 2, 2008 - 13:26 ET by c5thenIf Obama loses and her book gets released on the day that McCain is innaugurated, it is going to be fairly worthless.
So she has a commercial interest in the election being decided a particular way. It is almost impossible to claim objectivity in that circumstance.
Palin should consistently try to bring in her experiance of cleaning up politics and ethics problems just like the one we are presented with tonight with you, Ms. Ifill.
Palin: "My experience involves cleaning up corruption and conflicts of interest in Government, just like the one you have tonight, Ms. Ifill. Some of those people ended up in jail, MS. Ifill".
That'd leave a mark.
October 2, 2008 - 14:35 ET by NBFoh-oh-oh...ouch. If Palin did that, you can bet it'd be either edited out of press reports, or spun as pettiness to deflect the issue of [insert media-invented Palin problem here].
Gwen will be be objective all right
October 2, 2008 - 14:39 ET by PSPCplThis woman will be objective all right. She will run this debate with the objective of making sure Joe Biden comes out looking like St. Peter to Barry's Messiah and ensuring that Palin looks like a twisted evil extremist (though anyone with an R behind their name who isn't a RINO is a twisted evil extremist in the minds of the MSM).
Gwen will be be objective all right
October 2, 2008 - 14:39 ET by PSPCplThis woman will be objective all right. She will run this debate with the objective of making sure Joe Biden comes out looking like St. Peter to Barry's Messiah and ensuring that Palin looks like a twisted evil extremist (though anyone with an R behind their name who isn't a RINO is a twisted evil extremist in the minds of the MSM).
HELL NO!
October 2, 2008 - 14:47 ET by CTGwen Ifill is the principal caldron stirrer at the coven otherwise known as NPR's Washington Week. She has already demonstrated her complete lack of veracity by not revealing her upcoming book to the debate commission let alone the McCain campaign.
No. Nope. Nada. Nien. Non.
October 2, 2008 - 17:03 ET by kevcadNo. Nope. Nada. Nien. Non. Are you kidding.
OK, next let's post a poll with the question, "Do you trust the objectivity of PBS?"
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I just had to come back and check...
October 2, 2008 - 17:07 ET by MightyMouthhmmm... looks like the "Yes" vote is racing to the top... up 4% from 3% in only a day. :-)
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As a federal entity the
October 2, 2008 - 17:57 ET by BuffNBoneAs a federal entity the debate commission is subject to the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA). A request for Ifill's completed application/qualification form should immediately be requested. If present on the form, her personal information (SSAN, medical information, credit history, etc.) appropriately should be redacted. If the form requires disclosure of relevant information about potential conflicts of interest such as her book and she omitted it, then any and all penalties on the form or of the process should be enforced to the full extent of the law.
If she did report it and McCain's camp didn't catch it then it is bad on them. The only sticking point could be that she reported the book's title but not its sub-title. I'd say that's a case of lying by omission and should lessen her creds now and forever.
This is one of those times you can't unring the bell; as the debate will be over by the time any of this gets resolved but the facts should be accurately reported.
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