Please do. I wish everyone would. I'm tired of being subjected to all this politically correct stuff (actually in this context stuff is a four letter word).
Liberal left- wing extremists are hard at work to eliminate all holidays that celebrate Christianity and patriotism. We now have winter and spring breaks in place of Christmas and Easter. We also have presidents day to replace the celebration of the individual founding fathers. Lumping Carter and Clinton in with them is a travesty.
Maybe I'm just being cynical but I've had enough. My bucket is full.
I'm sure 99.999% of said people who greet with 'happy holidays' mean nothing nefarious (most media included) by it.
Afterall, I don't think your response is a bad one nor a 'exclusionary' one; you're merely clarifing for the greeter that you are a Christian celebrating Christmas. However, the same opposite side of the coin must be accepted, that when someone wishes one a 'Merry Christmas' and they correct you with whichever season they celebrate (other religions or merely 'the holidays' for the secular crowd.)
I doubt anyone would be all that tiffed about someone replying 'I'm not a Christian, so I am merely celebrating the holidays.' However, if one would, I think such anger is unfounded and projected from a completely non-relative place. Not all of us are the same, if you feel only one group is 'saved' that is fine, but others are still free to enjoy the season free of religion if they so choose to I believe.
Sure they do...but they still like the time off, the parties, the festivals, opening presents with their kids, decorating and so on. They just feel compelled to bash it because it pisses off Conservatives.
I'll buy their winter solstice/not Christmas and spring equinox/not Easter celebration angle when they can dig up traditional holidays we have in September when the fall equionox comes around and the same for such a holiday in June for the Summer Solstice.
There was no reason for Christians to have preferred for Jesus to be born several days after the winter solstice. It could easily have been on or before. The Resurrection was not said to have taken place on the vernal equinox, either. Though certainly Pagan rites have been co-opted into both of these high Christian holidays, there were many other such rites that have long been forgotten by most Europeans and those of European descent.
Actually, I wonder how many of the MSM would be fine with May Day as a national holiday? Hmmm....
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
I just can't seem to find where in the Bible that Jesus commands to not only set aside a day to celebrate his birth, but to make a big deal out of the name of the holiday.
Lets face it. Christmas is a holiday we made up. Christ was not born in December according to most historians, even Christian historians agree on that. Christ never once said to celebrate his birth, but rather to remember his death and resurrection.
I celebrate the season, as a festive time. I enjoy hearing about the birth of Christ and God's gift to us. And when you focus on those things, its kind of hard to get bothered by what other people say or don't say regarding Christmas. Frankly, if I didn't hear the phrase Merry Christmas a single time, I wouldn't be bothered by it.
We have another of those people who look at these things as isolated incidents and give the offending party a pass or the benefit of the doubt (shades of Balboa), instead of looking at them as evidence and a part of a larger pattern - in this case, an overall downgrading of Christianity in the media. Besides, I don't think the media downplays Christmas because, being serious Christians, they think it's a "man-made" holiday.
Shades of Al Gores 'current TV' spreading far and wide.
I even get sick of seeing commercials that promote other TV shows like "Little People Big World", with the reality stars of the show claiming to be Christian, then tows the TV corporate line by saying "Happy Holidays".
I believe that all things Christian are under a two-pronged full scale assault.
One prong is the overt put down of Christianity and everything it represents by the media, popular culture, and government schools.
The other prong is the infiltration of Christianity by wolves in sheeps clothing. False Christians who climb to positions of power and influence while watering down the true Gospel to deprive it of all redemptive, life/soul saving value.
Christians are in a war. And most of us are unarmed.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
No, there isn't anything that says we can't. Which is why I enjoy Christmas. I just don't get why we are supposed to be mad when somebody says something besides "Merry Christmas".
Keep in mind the Bible says we will be hated for the name of Christ. We aren't supposed to be waging political war against people who refuse to hear the gospel. We are supposed to live Christ like and share with those who will listen. If you believe the Bible, we will be under great persecution that will grow as the world nears its end.
Again, you either intentionally or unintentionally miss the point. The question isn't just that "someone" is saying something else besides "Merry Christmas" - it's that it is part of general pattern in the mainstream media to deny the respect to Christianity that they extend to other, more politically correct religions.
I don't disagree about the media disrespecting Christianity. I just don't think its something Christians should get worked up over. We should not expect such a filthy group to pass along a valid view of Christianity, which is why I don't care to waste my time on the media and what they think of Christmas. And if there is a nonbeliever who doesn't want to say Merry Christmas, why should it bother me. A phrase is just that, a phrase. "Just say no" doesn't keep kids off drugs, and "merry Christmas" isn't going to lead anyone to the gospel, and neither is the media. We have a lot of work to do, and IMO it needs to be done at the ground level where it is most effective.
Exactly xfast. We're nit picking in the worst way here. Do *some* media outlets, ok, MOST media outlets downplay the religious aspect of Christmas? Of course. Why you ask? Well, simply put, there are people out there in our nation who will still participate in the holidays by watching TV specials, buying gifts in line on Black Friday and all that jazz who are not Christian or even of faith itself. Also, again, and I know alot of people can't differentiate seperation from denigration, but most companies and advertising and entertainment TV still *DO* focus on Christmas as the main reason for the season and even when it does favor the 'holidays' over Christmas, its not as an assault toward the religion, but rather, an attempt to make all of America feel welcome to celebrate a most gorgeous time of year.
Perhaps I'm just a bleeding heart Christian, but I like the idea of all of us coming together in love and kinship. Anyways, I never pegged Jesus to be much of a diva to demand that we would ever focus on his birth so intently. It certainly doesn't downplay its importance to me or any other Christian, I just don't see why we have such a 'join or pi$$ off' attitude about this time of year. Again though, perhaps its the bleeding heart Christian in me that makes me happier to find similarities between people and the good in them over worrying about why they share goodwill and love during this season.
the media and militant atheist felt as you do about Christmas. You may see it as some benign holiday but they do not. It never goes unchallenged or without the seasonal assaults on the entire purpose of the celebration. If they treated it as you do than there probably would not be a problem. I do not celebrate any Muslim holidays either and do not have a problem with them doing so and the whole time I find it extremely easy to keep my mouth shut about it. Political correctness is destroying our nation and is the only country on the planet that practices it to this degree. Complacency is just one step above apathy. Given enough time and enough victories they will find something you care about to come against.
...so on Martin Luther King's birthday it's ok just to say "happy holiday"
...so on the 4th of July it's ok to just say :happy holiday"
etc...
Christmas is Christ Mass, His birthday celebration. God with us. To let others demean or diminish it is wrong. It's a time to celebrate God coming to earth through the birth of His only begotten Son, to show us how we ought to live.
I've never heard a single person say "happy MLK day". Happy 4th of July I've heard many times. But I would not feel like something was wrong if I didn't hear it. And I wouldn't expect a bunch of Iranians to celebrate it and respect it, which is kind of why I don't understand why non believers are supposed to celebrate or recognize Christmas. Them not doing so does not affect my celebration, nor should it. Why let it be a distraction?
There is an interesting movie out called "The Star of Bethlehem." In it, a lawyer turned amatuer astronomer discovers what he believes if the Star of Bethlehem. It is a very interesting theory, supported by scripture and other accounts from the time. In the Bible, the scriptures say the star stopped over Bethlehem. By using a computer program designed to show what the skies looked like in the past, he determines the star is in fact Jupiter and Venus at one point, and later Jupiter only. "The Star" "stops" over Bethlehem, from the perspective of the Maji, on December 25, 2BC.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Thanks...very interesting, seems I have heard/watched something about this before...anyway, I will be keeping this in mind, and looking out for the show/DVD.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~Rush Limbaugh
Something emailed to me.As far as the msm wood and coal for all of them.Anyhow Merry Christmas to all.
Army Christmas Operations Order: 12-24-08
Subject: Christmas
1. An official visit by MG Santa (NMI) Claus is expected at this headquarters 25 December 2008. The following instructions will be in effect and govern the activities of all personnel during the visit.
a. Not a creature will stir without official permission. This will include indigenous mice. Special stirring permits for necessary administrative actions will be obtained through normal channels. Mice stirring permits will be obtained through the Office of the Surgeon General, Veterinary Services.
b. Personnel will settle their brains for a long winter nap prior to 2200 hours, 24 December 2008. Uniform for the nap will be: Pajamas, cotton, light drowsing, with kerchief, general purpose, camouflage; and Cap, camouflage w/ear flaps. Equipment will be drawn from CIF prior to 1900 hours, 24 December 2008.
c. Personnel will utilize standard field ration sugar plums for visions to dance through their heads. Artificially sweetened plums are authorized for those in their unit weight control program. Specifications for this item will be provided by the servicing dining facility.
d. Stockings, wool, cushion sole, will be hung by the chimney with care. Necessary safety precautions will be taken to avoid fire hazards caused by carelessly hung stockings. Unit safety Officers will submit stocking hanging plans to this headquarters prior to 0800 hours, 24 December 2008, ATTN: DCSLOG, for approval.
e. At the first sign of clatter from the lawn, all troops will spring from their beds to evaluate noise and cause. Immediate action will be taken to tear open the shutters and throw open the window sashes. DCSOPS Plan (Saint Nick), Reference LO No. 3, paragraph 6c, this headquarters, 2 February 2008, will be in effect to facilitate shutter tearing and sash throwing. Division chiefs will familiarize all personnel with procedures and are responsible for ensuring that no shutters are torn open nor window sashes thrown open prior to start of official clatter.
f. Prior to 2400, 24 December 2008, all personnel will be assigned “Wondering Eye” stations. After shutters are thrown open and sashes are torn, these stations will be manned.
g. The ODCSLOG will assign one each Sleigh, miniature, M-66, and eight (8) deer, rein, tiny, for use of MG Claus’ driver who, IAW current directives and other applicable regulations, must have a valid SF 56 properly annotated by Driver Testing; be authorized rooftop parking and be able to shout “On Dasher, on Dancer, on Prancer and Vixen, up Comet, up Cupid, on Donner and Blitzen”.
2. MG Claus will enter quarters through standard chimneys. All units without chimneys will draw Chimney Simulator, M-6, for use during ceremonies. Chimney simulator units will be requested on Engineer Job Order Request Form submitted to the Furniture Warehouse prior to 19 December 2008, and issued on DA Form 3161, Request for Issue or Turn-in.
3. Personnel will be rehearsed on shouting “Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.” This shout will be given on termination of General Claus’ visit. Uniformity of shouting is the responsibility of division chiefs.
/x// CHRISTOPHER K. RINGLE
Colonel , USA
OIC, Special Services
Distribution:
Everybody Who Still Believes
CWCID: OBH
*To All Marines:
Will not be stopping by as do not wish to impede your operations.
Merry Christmas and Good Hunting,
MG Santa
PS:
Chesty says, “Merry Christmas, you sons-of-a-b***h, raggedy-ass Marines!”
As a former Christian and current atheist, I just don't care one way or another. I still buy crap for the kids because its to be expected. The holiday comes, then goes. I don't get bent out of shape for "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays".
It wasn't an overnight epiphany, if you don't mind me borrowing the term. No crisis. No drama. No life-changing event.
I just sort of grew out of it. I think reading too many science books helped me along, too. I'm a natural-born skeptic, so that figures into a lot of it, I think.
Atheism/Agnosticism and Conservatism don't have to exist apart from each other. Just ask my fellow atheist/agnostic George Will.
If you were truly a Christain (born-again) you will always be His. But if you were a "christain" like I was for 30 years, then you are still at risk.
Merry Christmas L'76!
v
the book of 1 John was written to this point: "These things I have written to you who believe in the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.(1 John 5:13)." Notice that the Apostle says you now have eternal life. We don't get eternal life after we die... we have it right now, when we believe.
Legacy - I had the same thing happen. Grew up in a good Christian family, went to school, studied science and lost my faith. Interesting thing happened to me, though. Science actually saved my faith. I read two books by Heinz Pagels - "The Cosmic Code" and "Perfect Symmetry." He discusses the origins of the universe as scientists understand. He was able to describe everything that has happened after 10^-23 seconds (or some such minute amount of time) after the Big Bang. I naturally asked the question, "Well, were did the universe come from and how did it start?" The two answers are likley never to be discovered since all traces of the start are gone. I came to the conclusion that God must have been the origin. My brain broke when I asked were God came from. I ultimately concluded that He is God and is thus all powerful. But that still did not fulfill everything on my mind. religion still had some issues for me. One day, I asked my wife to define faith for me. What she said has turned me back to the right direction. I still have a long way to go, but I am convinced I am going in the right direction.
I wish you the best of luck if you decide to re-embarck on this journey.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Segments of our population have been trying to secularize our system of government since 1789. These words are from the Introduction to a book by Benjamin Morrison from 1864. The words still resonate today:
Of what avail, then, is it for the enemies of a spiritual religion
to attempt to delude us with the vain pretense that the true progress
of mankind implies the rejection of the Bible as the divinely
inspired word of God, and the denial of its authority in the affairs
of men, and that in the onward march of civilization the dogmas of
the Christian Church have become obsolete—that the human mind
has outgrown its restrictions, and can no longer be controlled by
its discipline or instructed by its counsels? And of what avail is it,
by mocking at the sober habits and simple virtues of a purer age, to
prepare society for the frightful scenes of its own dissolution?
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We say
December 22, 2008 - 11:44 ET by littlemissmuffinWe say Merry Christmas. Most responses are: "Same to you."
Really sad.
Remembering little Caylee Anthony (2005-2008). May justice be served.
Merry Christmas
December 22, 2008 - 11:59 ET by cocodrieWhen people tell me "Happy Holidays", I tell them "No, Merry Christmas. I am celebrating the birth Of Jesus Christ, not the birth of a holiday".
coco
December 22, 2008 - 12:17 ET by littlemissmuffinOUTSTANDING!!
May I use your phrase also?
Remembering little Caylee Anthony (2005-2008). May justice be served.
Good morning Miss
December 22, 2008 - 12:35 ET by cocodriePlease do. I wish everyone would. I'm tired of being subjected to all this politically correct stuff (actually in this context stuff is a four letter word).
Liberal left- wing extremists are hard at work to eliminate all holidays that celebrate Christianity and patriotism. We now have winter and spring breaks in place of Christmas and Easter. We also have presidents day to replace the celebration of the individual founding fathers. Lumping Carter and Clinton in with them is a travesty.
Maybe I'm just being cynical but I've had enough. My bucket is full.
Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas...
December 23, 2008 - 13:12 ET by AshleeI'm sure 99.999% of said people who greet with 'happy holidays' mean nothing nefarious (most media included) by it.
Afterall, I don't think your response is a bad one nor a 'exclusionary' one; you're merely clarifing for the greeter that you are a Christian celebrating Christmas. However, the same opposite side of the coin must be accepted, that when someone wishes one a 'Merry Christmas' and they correct you with whichever season they celebrate (other religions or merely 'the holidays' for the secular crowd.)
I doubt anyone would be all that tiffed about someone replying 'I'm not a Christian, so I am merely celebrating the holidays.' However, if one would, I think such anger is unfounded and projected from a completely non-relative place. Not all of us are the same, if you feel only one group is 'saved' that is fine, but others are still free to enjoy the season free of religion if they so choose to I believe.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
Stamp Out Christmas
December 22, 2008 - 12:30 ET by GothampcThey deemphasize it to pander to the atheists. I'm sure the media would love it if religion were stamped out all together.
Do Media Deemphasize
December 22, 2008 - 12:41 ET by RR GOPDo Media Deemphasize Christmas?
Sure they do...but they still like the time off, the parties, the festivals, opening presents with their kids, decorating and so on. They just feel compelled to bash it because it pisses off Conservatives.
I'll buy their winter solstice/not Christmas and spring equinox/not Easter celebration angle when they can dig up traditional holidays we have in September when the fall equionox comes around and the same for such a holiday in June for the Summer Solstice.
There was no reason for Christians to have preferred for Jesus to be born several days after the winter solstice. It could easily have been on or before. The Resurrection was not said to have taken place on the vernal equinox, either. Though certainly Pagan rites have been co-opted into both of these high Christian holidays, there were many other such rites that have long been forgotten by most Europeans and those of European descent.
Actually, I wonder how many of the MSM would be fine with May Day as a national holiday? Hmmm....
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
The media isn't
December 22, 2008 - 13:37 ET by jdhawkThe media isn't deemphasizing Christmas, they are proscribing it from the public square all together where and when possible.
When not proscribing it from the public square, they snicker and denigrate religion and chide those that believe in God as far right nut cases.
The only exception to the above, presently, is anything to do with Isalam.
Anything to be "inclusive",
December 22, 2008 - 15:05 ET by Chris NormanAnything to be "inclusive", no matter how silly or ridiculous the lengths.
I just can't seem to find
December 22, 2008 - 15:06 ET by xfastI just can't seem to find where in the Bible that Jesus commands to not only set aside a day to celebrate his birth, but to make a big deal out of the name of the holiday.
Lets face it. Christmas is a holiday we made up. Christ was not born in December according to most historians, even Christian historians agree on that. Christ never once said to celebrate his birth, but rather to remember his death and resurrection.
I celebrate the season, as a festive time. I enjoy hearing about the birth of Christ and God's gift to us. And when you focus on those things, its kind of hard to get bothered by what other people say or don't say regarding Christmas. Frankly, if I didn't hear the phrase Merry Christmas a single time, I wouldn't be bothered by it.
So what? If man wants to
December 22, 2008 - 15:09 ET by Clear thinkerSo what?
If man wants to celebrate his birth, there is nothing in the Bible that says we can't.
More Dumb Ecofascist Propaganda
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
Clear,We have another of
December 22, 2008 - 15:22 ET by Chris NormanClear,
We have another of those people who look at these things as isolated incidents and give the offending party a pass or the benefit of the doubt (shades of Balboa), instead of looking at them as evidence and a part of a larger pattern - in this case, an overall downgrading of Christianity in the media. Besides, I don't think the media downplays Christmas because, being serious Christians, they think it's a "man-made" holiday.
Shades of Al Gores 'current
December 22, 2008 - 15:25 ET by Clear thinkerShades of Al Gores 'current TV' spreading far and wide.
I even get sick of seeing commercials that promote other TV shows like "Little People Big World", with the reality stars of the show claiming to be Christian, then tows the TV corporate line by saying "Happy Holidays".
More Dumb Ecofascist Propaganda
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
Oh, yeah. Say, when did
December 22, 2008 - 15:46 ET by Chris NormanOh, yeah. Say, when did LPBW and J&K+8 take over TLC anyway?
I believe that all things
December 22, 2008 - 15:41 ET by choselife3xI believe that all things Christian are under a two-pronged full scale assault.
One prong is the overt put down of Christianity and everything it represents by the media, popular culture, and government schools.
The other prong is the infiltration of Christianity by wolves in sheeps clothing. False Christians who climb to positions of power and influence while watering down the true Gospel to deprive it of all redemptive, life/soul saving value.
Christians are in a war. And most of us are unarmed.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
No, there isn't anything
December 22, 2008 - 15:29 ET by xfastNo, there isn't anything that says we can't. Which is why I enjoy Christmas. I just don't get why we are supposed to be mad when somebody says something besides "Merry Christmas".
Keep in mind the Bible says we will be hated for the name of Christ. We aren't supposed to be waging political war against people who refuse to hear the gospel. We are supposed to live Christ like and share with those who will listen. If you believe the Bible, we will be under great persecution that will grow as the world nears its end.
Again, you either
December 22, 2008 - 15:44 ET by Chris NormanAgain, you either intentionally or unintentionally miss the point. The question isn't just that "someone" is saying something else besides "Merry Christmas" - it's that it is part of general pattern in the mainstream media to deny the respect to Christianity that they extend to other, more politically correct religions.
I don't disagree about the
December 22, 2008 - 15:54 ET by xfastI don't disagree about the media disrespecting Christianity. I just don't think its something Christians should get worked up over. We should not expect such a filthy group to pass along a valid view of Christianity, which is why I don't care to waste my time on the media and what they think of Christmas. And if there is a nonbeliever who doesn't want to say Merry Christmas, why should it bother me. A phrase is just that, a phrase. "Just say no" doesn't keep kids off drugs, and "merry Christmas" isn't going to lead anyone to the gospel, and neither is the media. We have a lot of work to do, and IMO it needs to be done at the ground level where it is most effective.
Spoken perfectly.
December 23, 2008 - 13:22 ET by AshleeExactly xfast. We're nit picking in the worst way here. Do *some* media outlets, ok, MOST media outlets downplay the religious aspect of Christmas? Of course. Why you ask? Well, simply put, there are people out there in our nation who will still participate in the holidays by watching TV specials, buying gifts in line on Black Friday and all that jazz who are not Christian or even of faith itself. Also, again, and I know alot of people can't differentiate seperation from denigration, but most companies and advertising and entertainment TV still *DO* focus on Christmas as the main reason for the season and even when it does favor the 'holidays' over Christmas, its not as an assault toward the religion, but rather, an attempt to make all of America feel welcome to celebrate a most gorgeous time of year.
Perhaps I'm just a bleeding heart Christian, but I like the idea of all of us coming together in love and kinship. Anyways, I never pegged Jesus to be much of a diva to demand that we would ever focus on his birth so intently. It certainly doesn't downplay its importance to me or any other Christian, I just don't see why we have such a 'join or pi$$ off' attitude about this time of year. Again though, perhaps its the bleeding heart Christian in me that makes me happier to find similarities between people and the good in them over worrying about why they share goodwill and love during this season.
The people should not fear their Government,
The Government should fear the people.
If only
December 22, 2008 - 17:04 ET by doug1950the media and militant atheist felt as you do about Christmas. You may see it as some benign holiday but they do not. It never goes unchallenged or without the seasonal assaults on the entire purpose of the celebration. If they treated it as you do than there probably would not be a problem. I do not celebrate any Muslim holidays either and do not have a problem with them doing so and the whole time I find it extremely easy to keep my mouth shut about it. Political correctness is destroying our nation and is the only country on the planet that practices it to this degree. Complacency is just one step above apathy. Given enough time and enough victories they will find something you care about to come against.
Gotta admit
December 22, 2008 - 15:16 ET by choselife3xI'm with ya on that.
It's the liberal hostility to the Christ in Christmas that gets on most conservatives nerves I think.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
"I enjoy hearing about the birth of Christ" but...
December 22, 2008 - 15:35 ET by vrwc13...so on Martin Luther King's birthday it's ok just to say "happy holiday"
...so on the 4th of July it's ok to just say :happy holiday"
etc...
Christmas is Christ Mass, His birthday celebration. God with us. To let others demean or diminish it is wrong. It's a time to celebrate God coming to earth through the birth of His only begotten Son, to show us how we ought to live.
Let's not marginalize it, PC it.
Merry Christmas!
v
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8ouaWgUCNg&feature=related
I've never heard a single
December 22, 2008 - 15:59 ET by xfastI've never heard a single person say "happy MLK day". Happy 4th of July I've heard many times. But I would not feel like something was wrong if I didn't hear it. And I wouldn't expect a bunch of Iranians to celebrate it and respect it, which is kind of why I don't understand why non believers are supposed to celebrate or recognize Christmas. Them not doing so does not affect my celebration, nor should it. Why let it be a distraction?
There is an interesting
December 22, 2008 - 20:51 ET by HermanoThere is an interesting movie out called "The Star of Bethlehem." In it, a lawyer turned amatuer astronomer discovers what he believes if the Star of Bethlehem. It is a very interesting theory, supported by scripture and other accounts from the time. In the Bible, the scriptures say the star stopped over Bethlehem. By using a computer program designed to show what the skies looked like in the past, he determines the star is in fact Jupiter and Venus at one point, and later Jupiter only. "The Star" "stops" over Bethlehem, from the perspective of the Maji, on December 25, 2BC.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Hermano... Thanks...very
December 22, 2008 - 20:56 ET by bigtimerHermano...
Thanks...very interesting, seems I have heard/watched something about this before...anyway, I will be keeping this in mind, and looking out for the show/DVD.
Merry Christmas to you and yours.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT, you can find info on it
December 22, 2008 - 21:15 ET by HermanoBT, you can find info on it at Bethlehemstar.NET
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
Once again
December 22, 2008 - 21:40 ET by bigtimerOnce again Herm...thanks.
...got it saved.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Well Merry Christmas To all
December 22, 2008 - 15:45 ET by well99Something emailed to me.As far as the msm wood and coal for all of them.Anyhow Merry Christmas to all.
Army Christmas Operations Order: 12-24-08
Subject: Christmas
1. An official visit by MG Santa (NMI) Claus is expected at this headquarters 25 December 2008. The following instructions will be in effect and govern the activities of all personnel during the visit.
a. Not a creature will stir without official permission. This will include indigenous mice. Special stirring permits for necessary administrative actions will be obtained through normal channels. Mice stirring permits will be obtained through the Office of the Surgeon General, Veterinary Services.
b. Personnel will settle their brains for a long winter nap prior to 2200 hours, 24 December 2008. Uniform for the nap will be: Pajamas, cotton, light drowsing, with kerchief, general purpose, camouflage; and Cap, camouflage w/ear flaps. Equipment will be drawn from CIF prior to 1900 hours, 24 December 2008.
c. Personnel will utilize standard field ration sugar plums for visions to dance through their heads. Artificially sweetened plums are authorized for those in their unit weight control program. Specifications for this item will be provided by the servicing dining facility.
d. Stockings, wool, cushion sole, will be hung by the chimney with care. Necessary safety precautions will be taken to avoid fire hazards caused by carelessly hung stockings. Unit safety Officers will submit stocking hanging plans to this headquarters prior to 0800 hours, 24 December 2008, ATTN: DCSLOG, for approval.
e. At the first sign of clatter from the lawn, all troops will spring from their beds to evaluate noise and cause. Immediate action will be taken to tear open the shutters and throw open the window sashes. DCSOPS Plan (Saint Nick), Reference LO No. 3, paragraph 6c, this headquarters, 2 February 2008, will be in effect to facilitate shutter tearing and sash throwing. Division chiefs will familiarize all personnel with procedures and are responsible for ensuring that no shutters are torn open nor window sashes thrown open prior to start of official clatter.
f. Prior to 2400, 24 December 2008, all personnel will be assigned “Wondering Eye” stations. After shutters are thrown open and sashes are torn, these stations will be manned.
g. The ODCSLOG will assign one each Sleigh, miniature, M-66, and eight (8) deer, rein, tiny, for use of MG Claus’ driver who, IAW current directives and other applicable regulations, must have a valid SF 56 properly annotated by Driver Testing; be authorized rooftop parking and be able to shout “On Dasher, on Dancer, on Prancer and Vixen, up Comet, up Cupid, on Donner and Blitzen”.
2. MG Claus will enter quarters through standard chimneys. All units without chimneys will draw Chimney Simulator, M-6, for use during ceremonies. Chimney simulator units will be requested on Engineer Job Order Request Form submitted to the Furniture Warehouse prior to 19 December 2008, and issued on DA Form 3161, Request for Issue or Turn-in.
3. Personnel will be rehearsed on shouting “Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.” This shout will be given on termination of General Claus’ visit. Uniformity of shouting is the responsibility of division chiefs.
/x// CHRISTOPHER K. RINGLE
Colonel , USA
OIC, Special Services
Distribution:
Everybody Who Still Believes
CWCID: OBH
*To All Marines:
Will not be stopping by as do not wish to impede your operations.
Merry Christmas and Good Hunting,
MG Santa
PS:
Chesty says, “Merry Christmas, you sons-of-a-b***h, raggedy-ass Marines!”
Put me into the Don't care category.
December 22, 2008 - 16:20 ET by Legacy76As a former Christian and current atheist, I just don't care one way or another. I still buy crap for the kids because its to be expected. The holiday comes, then goes. I don't get bent out of shape for "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays".
Christian becomes atheist
December 22, 2008 - 16:34 ET by choselife3xWow. What happened?
(if you don't mind my asking)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Nothing, really.
December 23, 2008 - 16:05 ET by Legacy76It wasn't an overnight epiphany, if you don't mind me borrowing the term. No crisis. No drama. No life-changing event.
I just sort of grew out of it. I think reading too many science books helped me along, too. I'm a natural-born skeptic, so that figures into a lot of it, I think.
Atheism/Agnosticism and Conservatism don't have to exist apart from each other. Just ask my fellow atheist/agnostic George Will.
It wasn't an overnight epiphany...
December 23, 2008 - 17:26 ET by vrwc13Well God may not be through with you, yet.
If you were truly a Christain (born-again) you will always be His. But if you were a "christain" like I was for 30 years, then you are still at risk.
Merry Christmas L'76!
v
the book of 1 John was written to this point: "These things I have written to you who believe in the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life.(1 John 5:13)." Notice that the Apostle says you now have eternal life. We don't get eternal life after we die... we have it right now, when we believe.
Legacy - I had the same
December 23, 2008 - 20:01 ET by HermanoLegacy - I had the same thing happen. Grew up in a good Christian family, went to school, studied science and lost my faith. Interesting thing happened to me, though. Science actually saved my faith. I read two books by Heinz Pagels - "The Cosmic Code" and "Perfect Symmetry." He discusses the origins of the universe as scientists understand. He was able to describe everything that has happened after 10^-23 seconds (or some such minute amount of time) after the Big Bang. I naturally asked the question, "Well, were did the universe come from and how did it start?" The two answers are likley never to be discovered since all traces of the start are gone. I came to the conclusion that God must have been the origin. My brain broke when I asked were God came from. I ultimately concluded that He is God and is thus all powerful. But that still did not fulfill everything on my mind. religion still had some issues for me. One day, I asked my wife to define faith for me. What she said has turned me back to the right direction. I still have a long way to go, but I am convinced I am going in the right direction.
I wish you the best of luck if you decide to re-embarck on this journey.
O Lord, Thou givest us everything, at the price of an effort. - Leonardo Da Vinci
This is not a new effort
December 22, 2008 - 16:26 ET by TBARSegments of our population have been trying to secularize our system of government since 1789. These words are from the Introduction to a book by Benjamin Morrison from 1864. The words still resonate today:
Of what avail, then, is it for the enemies of a spiritual religion
to attempt to delude us with the vain pretense that the true progress
of mankind implies the rejection of the Bible as the divinely
inspired word of God, and the denial of its authority in the affairs
of men, and that in the onward march of civilization the dogmas of
the Christian Church have become obsolete—that the human mind
has outgrown its restrictions, and can no longer be controlled by
its discipline or instructed by its counsels? And of what avail is it,
by mocking at the sober habits and simple virtues of a purer age, to
prepare society for the frightful scenes of its own dissolution?
144 years later not much has changed, has it?
Life is too short to be serious
A Wise Man Once Said
December 22, 2008 - 16:51 ET by dvdaughtryThere is nothing new, under the sun.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
A Merry Christmas
December 22, 2008 - 16:27 ET by bigtimerA Merry Christmas Wish.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Thanks BT. A very good
December 23, 2008 - 08:52 ET by SeashellThanks BT. A very good reminder for us all as we celebrate Christmas.