On the Federal Page in Tuesday's Washington Post, Jeffrey Birnbaum, who covers lobbying, suggests it's not "genuine" for the National Rifle Association to sound the alarm on threats to gun rights at the moment: "No one expects gun legislation to pass this year." But in dismissing the "not-so-imminent threat" (as the article's headline describes it), Birnbaum goes too far:
The document is filled with sinister-looking caricatures of supposed anti-gun figures such as filmmaker Michael Moore, comedian Rosie O'Donnell, New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (R) and CBS News anchor Katie Couric.
Supposed? Doesn't Birnbaum remember Rosie trying to wallop NRA spokesman Tom Selleck into submission? Obviously, he doesn't remember then-NBC host Katie Couric asking NRA chief Charlton Heston to admit to the need for gun control in a June 1998 interview:
-- "Speaking of gun safety and children Mr. Heston, as you well know and in fact as everyone in this country knows there has been a spate of school shootings recently that have been quite disturbing to all Americans. Given the fact that these seem to be happening with greater frequency has it caused you to rethink your philosophy about children and guns and the accessibility of guns for children?"
--"But Mr. Heston, don't you think that if deep, if children are deeply disturbed, there might be another way for them to deal with conflict if guns were not so readily available to them?"
-- "Getting back to kids and guns, if you will indulge me for a moment. You cannot think of any other position the NRA could take in terms of trying to decrease the number of school shootings? You feel like this is not your bailiwick, this is not your problem?"
Charlton Heston: "Not at all. As I told you the NRA spends more money, more time..."
Couric, cutting him off: "Other than education."
Heston: "Well what would you suppose? What would you suggest?"
Couric: "I don't know, perhaps greater restrictions."
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.





















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"...supposed anti-gun fi
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 07:48 ET by Indiana Joe"...supposed anti-gun figures..."
Geez, these guys can't even call it like it is on something THIS obvious.
Of course, what else would one expect from the WaPo?
If the Dems have a SHRED of sense, they WILL stay away from gun-prohibition... at least for the time being. No less a liberal authority-figure than Bill Clinton laid the Dem loss of Congress squarely at the feet of the NRA.
Just let them try it again....
And they wonder why we say
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 07:58 ET by sarcasmoAnd they wonder why we say they're biased... I just want to know, if those are the "supposed" antigunners, who the hell are the ACTUAL anti-gunners according to the biased WaPo??? Does Josh Sugarman qualify??? Sheesh, talk about biased-cluelessness...
JMR
Couric: "I don't know...
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 07:49 ET by PeskyDaneCouric: "I don't know..."
And that's pretty much the extent of Little Katie’s political, legal and economic acumen.
Her prepared list (by another) of talking points didn't cover it
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 08:01 ET by acaiguanaHer prepared list (by another) of talking points didn't cover it.
I mean what she thought.
The echo chamber of her mind went into tangles of confusion over the question.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "Which city is next?"
Yeah, get her idea of "g
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 08:07 ET by Indiana JoeYeah, get her idea of "greater restrictions?"
On what, children owning guns???
Talk about clueless!
LMAO!!!
LOL - didn't mean to step ove
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 08:11 ET by PeskyDaneLOL - didn't mean to step over you there, dude.
No prob, PD... "great mi
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 08:14 ET by Indiana JoeNo prob, PD... "great minds" and all that.... ;^D
How about this revealing tidb
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 08:10 ET by PeskyDaneHow about this revealing tidbit:
"...perhaps greater restrictions."
Yet another pillar of liberal theology oozes through filter - oops.
The MSM/liberal mindset on th
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 08:41 ET by rimskyThe MSM/liberal mindset on these type of issues is to go for the jugular. BAN IT! There is NO thought process. JUST GET RID OF IT! Problem is, of course, it can't be done that way, and in the case of Guns, this kind of clean sweep law making will ONLY inhibit and frustrate the law abiding citizenry. Criminals will laugh at us all.
The names mentioned above has
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 09:04 ET by Senior ChiefThe names mentioned above has bodyguards maybe armed with toy guns to protect them from their idiocy. Oh by the way, are their toy guns registered to the people their protecting...
Doesn't Jeffrey Birnbaum appe
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 09:20 ET by Chris NormanDoesn't Jeffrey Birnbaum appear on Special Report with Brit Hume? I always perceived him as being one of the more conservative talking heads on TV. Of course "more conservative" is a relative term...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Birnbaum appears occasionally
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:07 ET by rimskyBirnbaum appears occasionally on SP with Brit Hume, but I wouldn't call him conservative. If anything, I'd call him safely (as in, must be careful not to offend now) down the middle. Compared to Fred Barnes, Birnbaum comes off as liberal.. IMO. But then Fred is staunchly Conservative, so it may not be a fair comparison, but then.. who cares... Freddy! Keep on Kickin' A** and Takin' Names! I love it when he bites back at those NPR contributors that appear regularly, or even when he bites back at his Beltway Boys buddy Mort, who is also too much down the middle for me.
I suppose as a result of cond
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:17 ET by Chris NormanI suppose as a result of conditioning from watching all these liberal suits on TV, I have a skewed perception on who exactly is conservative. Next to, say, Juan Williams, I'm grateful for any temperate remarks regarding Republicans by anyone.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Understood... Regarding J
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:27 ET by rimskyUnderstood...
Regarding JW.. first of all, I respect anybody whose career has landed them in the spotlight on one of these shows, especially on Brit's show. They have obviously done some things right to get there, misguided as some of them are regarding politics and such. Having said that, JW is clueless, and cant' hold a candle to Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, Brit or even Mort. He's outclassed by them all.
I think Hume has the most rea
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:59 ET by Chris NormanI think Hume has the most reasonable panel on television. I can stand listening to even Mara Liasson. Williams is occasionally OK, but can get obnoxious. Kristol sometimes gets a little too puckish for my taste...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
If Birnbaum was any wetter
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 09:59 ET by Jack BauerIf Birnbaum was any wetter they could grow rice on him.
He's the sort of guy who'd apologize for inconveniencing the islamo-nutjob who was about to lop off his head,
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
I swear I thought he was cons
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:25 ET by Chris NormanI swear I thought he was conservative - but I guess actually he's just very, very mild-mannered. After recent years of Matthews, et al, I had begun to mistakenly believe that to be a liberal commentator required spewing bile and snarling - forgetting that commentators can be liberal while remaining very bland...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Chris -- I sure he's the on
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:38 ET by Jack BauerChris -- I sure he's the one of the nicest guys in the world. He'd probably give you the shirt off his back in a snowstorm....
And I think he was once considered a conservative, but he's just so wrong on so many things I hear him pass opinion about.
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
Jack,I don't know if he's nic
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:51 ET by Chris NormanJack,
I don't know if he's nice, he might be the meanest SOB in the world when the camera is off (although, I kind of doubt it). I just couldn't come up with any good adjectives to describe his persona. I like your's - "...they could grow rice on him" - classic. All I could come up with is mild-mannered and bland. Weird, that I confused nice with conservative. So many bilious Liberals out there circulating, I forgot there were still some innocuous ones...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Don't you ever confuse 'nice' with Conservative again!
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:54 ET by acaiguanaDon't you ever confuse 'nice' with Conservative again!
Go to your room.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "Which city is next?"
I hate time-outs...The dogs b
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 11:01 ET by Chris NormanI hate time-outs...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
CN -- you're right. You nev
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 11:57 ET by Jack BauerCN -- you're right. You never really know what someone's like outside their public persona. He could be a wife beating SOB, but I doubt it!
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
Remember well that the first
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:21 ET by donsalesRemember well that the first thing the intelligencia does when it takes over any government is to place significant restrictions on firearms ownership so that the public cannot defend itself against the government as it begins to methodically swallow freedom ........
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
donsales, Excellent point!
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:46 ET by rimskydonsales,
Excellent point! It's not easy to be on guard against these kind of encroachments on our freedoms. Too many people are satisfied with being fed doctrine by the emotionally charged elitits from the MSM/Hollywood/Congress, etc. Doctrines that sound benign, but which are in fact insidiously malignant. Forums like NB are excellent weapons against the ignorance that still prevails in much of the electorate.
Exactly donsales! And don't
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:56 ET by The Real TonyExactly donsales! And don't forget how they also try to control free speech, as Ms. Pelosi is now trying to do...conservative speech that is!!
She's already announced her plan to push forward a bill in the first 100 hours that would basically limit grassroots and make them report to the government should they contact more than 500 people during their efforts to have individuals contact their representatives. This bill exempts labor unions from the same obligation.
Miserable bitch.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
Many of the Marxist policies
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 15:51 ET by MikeBMany of the Marxist policies put in place by the Congresses controlled by the Democrats over the years have been "for the children". Since when did it become the Federal government's responsibility to raise our children? That is not one of the enumerated powers given to the Federal government by the Constitution, and is therefore reserved to the states or to the people. In fact, it does not take a village to raise a child, and I would appreciate it if the village idiot would mind her own damn business.
Following is partial list of things to be banned if we are to protect our children the way the libs seem to want:
Guns, knives, automobiles, trucks, school busses, airplanes, bicycles, roller skates, roller blades, skate boards, bath tubs, swimming pools, minibikes, motorcycles, trees, electricity, household cleaning chemicals (somehow we need to reconcile this item with the necessity of killing every germ that the child might come into contact with), bees and other stinging insects, ants and other biting insects, and so on. (Perhaps the abortionists need to spin their services as protecting the unborn from all the risks extant in the world.)
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
donsales - I think that argum
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 17:16 ET by Rackiedonsales -
I think that argument about "defending oneself against the government" went out the window along time ago. Given their advanced weaponry and tactics you just don't stand a chance. One shot, one kill from 600 yards is the standard. You and your six-shooter won't even slow them down. I imagine the average Joe is just gonna poop his pants in a shoot-out just before he throws up his hands. Of course, I'll change my mind if you can point to an example where an armed citizen held off government agents and survived to tell about it. And yes, I do own several guns and enjoy "punching paper" but reserve my "armed response" for a more immediate and probable confrontation with a crazed and aggressive civilian bent on doing me harm. I hope to God this never happens but I like to think I'm prepared. Should you take up arms against the government, I'm sure it will be in all the papers. Good Luck
Just in case you missed it or
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:40 ET by donsalesJust in case you missed it or were uninformed.....
Jeffrey Birnbaum was a contributing editor at FORTUNE magazine when he joined Brit Hume's panel many years ago......a publication that reports on the financial markets and our "free market" in action......
He was recruited to the WP several years ago from Time-Life.....
Now do you suppose he dances to a very different drummer with certain political commentary "obligations" to Donald Graham (WP owner) who is joined at the hip with the Sulzbergers in NY???????
Curious minds want to know......
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
'splains it fer me
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 10:48 ET by rimsky'splains it fer me
I don’t understand how the
Tue, 01/02/2007 - 11:22 ET by RunningBeerI don’t understand how the same people clamoring about their individual rights being violated because of illegal wire taps, etc… can actually do a complete one-eighty and support anti-gun legislation without ever skipping a beat. What part of "people's right" don't they understand?