Former White House reporter (now columnist) Helen Thomas was interviewed by the Washington Post's Express newspaper (the free one you can read on the bus or train). Predictably, Helen thought that democracy has now prevailed in America, since democracy and Democrats are interchangeable terms:
EXPRESS: Did this past election start to show that?
THOMAS: I thought the election proved that democracy works. People finally get the message. I think they're fed up with the war and all the torture and all the other things that have been attached to [the United States].EXPRESS: How do you think this election will affect what happens over the next two years?
THOMAS: I think we've got to get out of Iraq. I think the president is obviously weighing that. They want to do it to save face and so forth, but I think we should save lives.
She also repeated that everyone else in the White House press corps was a pro-war softy except for her:
EXPRESS: You've asked a lot of tough questions. Did they just not answer you or spin it?
THOMAS: One lone voice isn't enough. You can be ridiculed when everyone else is putting on their trench coats and gung ho to go to war, get embedded and so forth. They had no concept. This was Vietnam all over again and it has become exactly that.EXPRESS: How come people aren't as outraged as they were during Vietnam?
THOMAS: 'Cause there's no draft; every household is not affected. It's that kind of a war. It's very different. People don't feel that affected personally, but they're beginning to wise up and realize that the country is deeply affected.
Finally, Helen employed the old saw that Tony Snow is "attacking" the reporters by defending the White House, but she never sees it as Helen Thomas is "attacking" Tony Snow:
EXPRESS: How is your relationship with White House Press Secretary Tony Snow?
THOMAS: We're talking to each other. His whole technique when you ask a tough question is a best defense is offense. So he starts attacking you personally. I take it in stride — what the hell? The question is asked. He should be asked the questions. But he plays "the best defense is an offense," so he attacks the reporter, which I think is bad form. Just say, ‘No comment' if you don't want to play around with it, but don't start attacking the reporter. We have a right to ask these questions and we would be defaulting on our duty if we didn't.I think he's enjoying it, but it's getting tougher because he's got to defend the indefensible.
(Hat tip: Fishbowl DC)
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center
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You've asked a lot of tough q
November 14, 2006 - 18:11 ET by bassndudeYou've asked a lot of tough questions. Did they just not answer you or spin it?
Or are you just to ugly to look at?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Helen doesn't ask tough quest
November 14, 2006 - 19:27 ET by chris_gillHelen doesn't ask tough questions, she proseyitizes. Democracy has been working for about 220 years.
And this was not an election about torture, wiretapping, and Quantanamo. It was an election about
1. Failure for Republicans to follow through on the mandate that got them elected
2. Corruption. When the speaker of the House protests the FBI searching the office of a congressman with $90,000 in "cold hard cash" in his freezer, you're begging to get voted out of power
3. Vacilating between running to Bush when his poll numbers were higher than 35%, and running from Bush. On top of bailing on Bush, after he got most of them clowns elected in 2004
chris_gill,Right you are.Hele
November 14, 2006 - 19:40 ET by Blondechris_gill,
Right you are.
Helen doesn't ask tough questions, she proseyitizes.
And then she has the unmitigated gall to accuse Tony Snow of personally attacking...you know, something along the lines of "was there a question in there somewhere?"
THOMAS: ...His whole technique when you ask a tough question is a best defense is offense. So he starts attacking you personally. I take it in stride — what the hell? The question is asked. He should be asked the questions. But he plays "the best defense is an offense," so he attacks the reporter, which I think is bad form. Just say, ‘No comment' if you don't want to play around with it, but don't start attacking the reporter. We have a right to ask these questions and we would be defaulting on our duty if we didn't.
No wonder HT is a gigantic joke.
Pasture time, anyone?
Anyone that thinks democrac
November 14, 2006 - 19:47 ET by FairlightAnyone that thinks democracy happens only when you elect democrats has no idea what democracy even is.
"Anyone that thinks demo
November 15, 2006 - 01:56 ET by Indiana Joe"Anyone that thinks democracy happens only when you elect democrats has no idea what democracy even is."...
...or what "Democrats" even ARE!!!
Alert the hobbits: She's ou
November 14, 2006 - 18:15 ET by GalvanicAlert the hobbits: She's out of the corral again!
THOMAS: I thought the electio
November 14, 2006 - 18:20 ET by Dave RTHOMAS: I thought the election proved that democracy works.
Given that Helen Thomas has to be at least five years older than baseball, I wonder if she could anwser this simple question:
Exactly when was it that this country became a democracy?
I'd be willing to wager that, had the election turned out differently, "democracy works" would have been the last thing she would have said.
It's so interesting how man
November 14, 2006 - 18:36 ET by JasonCIt's so interesting how many of the conservatives here pounce on any pundit they perceive as liberal for referring to America as a democracy. As if it hasn't become basically synonymous with Constitutional Republic in the popular lexicon. Yet, the rallying cry to justify invading Iraq is so frequently that it's so important to build a "democracy" in the middle east to scare Iran, tame Syria, what have you.
Also, as soon as I saw that there was a Helen Thomas post, I made a wager with myself as to how many comments would be primarily based on her looks. (5/9. I was guessing 3/9). A predictable and classy bunch we've got here.
"The right-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of the given order as an argument for it." -Slavoj Zizek
It's also interesting how you
November 14, 2006 - 18:40 ET by Chris NormanIt's also interesting that you keep coming here to comment, despite the fact that no one has ever indicated that they care about your opinion.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Chri,Notice JasonC had no ans
November 14, 2006 - 18:42 ET by Dave RChris,
Notice JasonC had no answer, either.
Answer for what? The whole
November 14, 2006 - 18:49 ET by JasonCAnswer for what? The whole point of the entry appears to be Helen's misuse of a commonly misused phrase. The tone of the responses seems to be (for the nth time) "Gosh that Helen sure is unattractive." Of course, for the record, no one felt the need to reply to my specific comments either.
Chris, some comments spark long threads, some don't. And I am far from the liberal punching bag who will make it easy for you by just saying "Bush sucks" and "Oil!" over and over. Ignore me if you want, but replying to call attention to ignoring me, that's just silly.
"The right-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of the given order as an argument for it." -Slavoj Zizek
Like you, I was just making a
November 14, 2006 - 18:55 ET by Chris NormanLike you, I was just making an observation on what I found interesting.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Answer for what? The whole po
November 14, 2006 - 19:06 ET by Dave RAnswer for what? The whole point of the entry appears to be Helen's misuse of a commonly misused phrase. The tone of the responses seems to be (for the nth time) "Gosh that Helen sure is unattractive." Of course, for the record, no one felt the need to reply to my specific comments either.
All I was asking was, given her advanced years, perhaps she might be able to shed some light on exactly when this country actually became a democracy, a word which does not appear anywhere in the Declaration of Independance or the U.S. Constitution.
The gulf between a democracy and a constitutional republic is fairly wide. They are two entirely different entities. I am one who believes that words and phrases actually mean things. Someone in the position of informing the public should know the difference.
Furthermore, I also believe that if the election result was different, "democracy works" would not be a phrase used by Ms. Thomas in describing the result. I'm guessing it would have been "voter irregularity" or something similar. Funny how that issue seems to mysteriously vanish whenever the dems win an election.
As for casting dispersions on her appearance, I must point out that I did no such thing. Well, not directly, anyway.
The gulf between a democrac
November 14, 2006 - 19:15 ET by JasonCThe gulf between a democracy and a constitutional republic is fairly wide. They are two entirely different entities. I am one who believes that words and phrases actually mean things. Someone in the position of informing the public should know the difference.
I agree. But just as you see the double-standard between a reaction to a Dem win versus a Repub win, I think it's odd that the definition of Democracy is so semantically-protected when a lib uses it, but gets tossed around like a Nerf ball in regards to rebuilding Iraq. At any rate, I didn't mean to target you specifically, just that general sentiment, my apologies for making it seem personal.
As to the comments on Helen's, um, aesthetic, I didn't mean you personally either, and it's not like I really care, it's just so predictable and sad.
"The right-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of the given order as an argument for it." -Slavoj Zizek
"Exactly when was it tha
November 15, 2006 - 02:17 ET by Indiana Joe"Exactly when was it that this country became a democracy?"
"I'd be willing to wager that, had the election turned out differently, "democracy works" would have been the last thing she would have said."
Ah, here's a good place to insert this. The semantic argument was tiresome. Of course the difference between a "democracy" and a "representatiive republic" is a silly distinction to make in this day and age. America is probably the closest thing going to a true democracy nowadays, at any rate. Irrelevant.
The second phrase from Dave's original post was the one I wanted to see addressed, and I see he raised it again. But to point to it as an example of just a different "double-standard" does not begin to address the meat of the comment.
When was the last election that WASN'T mainly covered as a morass of irregularities, mismanagement, "hanging chads," partisan manipulation, "disenfranchisement," etc, etc.?
Certainly not 2004. Nor 2002. Definitely NOT 2000. I peg that year as when these "irregularities" first became a really big issue. So, in the last 4 election cycles, only THIS one seems to be "clean." And only THIS one was a real Democrat victory.
Is that really just a coincidence? Or will someone actually state that, since the "correct" party finally WON, that is ipso facto PROOF that this was our first "correct" election in eight years?
Truth to tell, it won't surprise me if someone says EXACTLY that. It's what Helen Thomas seems to be saying, isn't it? So, I guess it's already been said.
<edit> Jason, I had also meant to discuss that tag-line you use. But I see Wineguy engages you on it later. I'll read on.... ;^) <end edit>
America is probably the close
November 15, 2006 - 07:55 ET by Dave RAmerica is probably the closest thing going to a true democracy nowadays,
Exactly, IJ, and true democracies have a hideous tendency to vote themselves right out of existence.
"Gosh that Helen sure is
November 14, 2006 - 19:18 ET by Dan The Man 2"Gosh that Helen sure is unattractive" No she is butt ugly and then some.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Dan The Man......."No sh
November 14, 2006 - 20:18 ET by ww thumperDan The Man......."No she is b....." I aggree , but I would not have said that for nothen'......well maby :^)
ww
Sometimes ya gotta say whats
November 14, 2006 - 21:09 ET by Dan The Man 2Sometimes ya gotta say whats in your mind. In here case I think it is to the bone. Beauty may be in teh eye of the beholder, but it just aint there in her looks or deeds or heart.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Dan The Man ........Thats rig
November 14, 2006 - 22:58 ET by ww thumperDan The Man ........Thats right!! :^) ww
"The right-wing intellec
November 14, 2006 - 19:38 ET by Wineguy13"The right-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of the given order as an argument for it." -Slavoj Zizek
This statement, with which I assume you concur, is either anachronistic or so out of context as to miss the pithy point. Typically any member of a favored class in a given order would tend to argue for it. Indeed, ceteris paribus, the existence of any order would tend to argue for itself in that it shows that the order can survive at least in the short term. Arguing for an order which violates the laws of human nature can never br argued from within that order, as it cannot exist. As you can see, we already have a point for reality. Idealistic lefties such as the man you have chosen to venerate, would love to hold up the status quo as a good thing, but their ideal state has never existed in the real world (that is, outside of the New School faculty lounge).
That having been said (and demonstrated), I agree that the comments on this post have been rather rude, and not very sporting. It is not sporting to make fun of a sloth for being slow, for instance. Helen Thomas has taken the wind out of many conservatives' sails since she has admitted to being a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. Therefore we can't point to things and say 'a-HA!'. I choose to point out that Ms. Thomas showing her approval for 'Democracy' with the latest election results, while denigrating 'Democracy' after the previous round of elections, does show a bias. Imagine the intellectual honesty of a woman in Las Vegas claiming a slot machine is broken unless it spits out money, and I think you have my point in a nutshell: Ms Thomas has made an illogical statement.
QED
And he said, "Pretentious? Moi?"
Wineguy, this is a great po
November 14, 2006 - 19:51 ET by JasonCWineguy, this is a great post. First, regarding my tag, believe it or not, the quote goes on to criticize liberals even more harshly. I don't have the book handy, but when I find it I'll send you a message. As to my use of this truncated version, I fully realize that this isn't the case for all or even a majority of right-intellectuals, it's simply my kicky signature line for when I engage with a group of people who mostly disagree with me. Take with one grain of salt.
As for your empirical deconstruction of the quote, QED indeed. Nicely done. If you're interested, another great passage by this writer (again, can't find it; he has a lot of books) basically says that liberals are secretly thrilled with the status quo because it gives them a safe haven from which to rail against it; that the worst nightmare for liberals - or at least, successful ones - would be to have their "ideals" come to fruition. In looking for the quote, I found another one I like even better.
Imagine the intellectual honesty of a woman in Las Vegas claiming a slot machine is broken unless it spits out money
That's the best metaphor for it I've heard.
And now, wineguy, I kid you not, I'm going to sample a grenache/shiraz blend I just picked up. Good day.
"We make fun of our beliefs, while continuing to practice them, that is, to rely on them as the underlying structure of our daily practices." -Slavoj Zizek
Cheers and thanks for the kin
November 14, 2006 - 20:14 ET by Wineguy13Cheers and thanks for the kind words. Ragarding the other Zizek quotes, I have read a similar one (I am glad we don't have a strict bibliographical standard here) stating roughly, 'Sometimes God curses a man by giving him exactly what he wants.'
Wineguy,Wow, guy! I'd wondere
November 15, 2006 - 02:39 ET by Indiana JoeWineguy,
Wow, guy! I'd wondered about that tag-line, I've never heard of Slavoj Zizek. The best I could come up with was to reverse it, something to the effect of:
"The left-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of a different order as an argument for it."
Which is really just a cheap shot, I realize. But tempting ...
As to your pithy analysis, all I can say to that is, "in vito veritas!" ... ;^D
AND....
JasonC,
Hmm. Your response to Wineguy was.... surprising to me. I've seen some of your writings, and heard some of the opinions of you during the short time I've been on this site. Judging by your response to Wineguy, and your comments about how Zizek can be even harsher with liberals, I feel I may have been misled about your veracity. I apologize for maybe jumping to conclusions. Your response was very....civil and friendly and just ....well, good natured.
Well done, both of you. A pleasure to read, and I maybe even learned a thing or three. Sometimes, I think there may be hope for me because...
I CAN be taught! (I think...)
Regards,
Indy Joe and RealTonyThe Zi
November 15, 2006 - 10:35 ET by JasonCIndy Joe and RealTony
The Zizek quote goes on: "...while the left-wing intellectual is a fool, a court jester who publicly displays the lie of the existing order, but in a way which suspends the efficiency of his speech."
Thanks for both of your comments. Indiana, apologies if I get nasty here and there. For those of us who are here to converse civilly and pride ourselves on making good arguments, it is difficult to resist lashing out when we sense that we are being piled up on. I always regret losing my composure or resorting to cheap shots, but on the occasion that five angry NBers are ganging up on me for a more or less benign comment, or when I read people saying they'd like to shoot people who try to amend the constitution to allow gay marriage (or some such), I tend to reply in kind. Fortunately, the majority of NBers are not like this, and I enjoy my time here. I guess it's just that behind the screennames and the bumper-sticker-like signature lines, we're all prone to a little angry emoting.
Best, JC
"The right-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of the given order as an argument for it." -Slavoj Zizek
You know JasonC, you actually
November 15, 2006 - 09:46 ET by The Real TonyYou know JasonC, you actually make a good point, although this country IS a republic, the term "democracy" is commonly used in that manner. That is the truth people, the terms may not mean the same thing but they are used interchangeably in their usage. Given that a large number of Americans probably don't realize that this country is a republic (or for the younger ones, weren't taught that) I can see and understand the misuse.
As for Ms. Thomas, why does this liberal, prosletyzing windbag still get a press pass to the White House? She's not an institution; she belongs in one. I ask you this: if Helen were a conservative, would she still be allowed in once she was no longer a reporter?? Answer truthfully. (Ok, you don't have to; its a rhetorical question)
Helen, however old and worn out, is full of excrement however, when it comes to her opinions. She is not two-faced, otherwise she wouldn't be wearing the ugly one all the time.
What?? We can't pick on the liberals now? Conservatives and Republicans are constantly insulted by liberals/Democrat wth vile comments about their speech, appearance and motives. It will be a cold day in Hell before I won't take the opportunity to throw that right back at them, or in Helen's case: in her fat, old, Arab face.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
No one here has to perceive p
November 14, 2006 - 19:14 ET by NeoConfirmedNo one here has to perceive pundits like Thomas as liberal. That's like saying that you need to perceive Shaq as tall. Some things in life are obvious. No, saying that America is a democracy does not make someone a flaming liberal. Yes, identifying the 'rallying cry' of invading Iraq was to build a democracy to scare Iran does make someone a flaming liberal. As far as mentioning Ms. Thomas' frightening appearence every time a thread is about her, we are guilty. It's kind of like when the thread is about Mr. Clinton, mentioning his joke of a marriage (i.e. business relationship) with Thomas lookalike Hillary just comes to us so naturally.
Thomas lookalike? My god,
November 14, 2006 - 19:18 ET by JasonCThomas lookalike? My god, who should be more insulted, Hillary or Helen?!
Seriously though, I don't think my statement makes me a flaming liberal since it's something I've read on the message boards here over and over. It surely wasn't the only reason we invaded, but it is oft-cited by conservatives and liberals alike.
"The right-wing intellectual refers to the mere existence of the given order as an argument for it." -Slavoj Zizek
Well maybe I should have held
November 14, 2006 - 20:09 ET by NeoConfirmedWell maybe I should have held back on the flaming part of my argument. I agree that there are many reasons that we invaded Iraq (WMD, UN resolutions, our history with Saddam, 9-11, etc, etc) I think that once 9-11 happened, Bush did not want to appear as if the US was doing nothing to avenge thousands of civilian deaths. Always remember, there was no country called Al Quada that we could quickly conquer, feel vindicated and move on. It's just not that simple. There is one thing that is clear through the past five years, more than half of the population does not want the US to be the world's superpower. That's too much responsibility, they don't have the fortitude to see things through and they're obviously too young to remember when the world had two superpowers. To them, the threat of the US being attacked again is merely political.
Perhaps if Helen Thomas were
November 14, 2006 - 21:44 ET by GalvanicPerhaps if Helen Thomas were a serious reporter rather than a opinionated biddy, she'd get some respect. But when this tiresome person proceeds with presumptive questions like, "Mr. President, why won't you admit that you're wrong?", she's no longer a reporter, and has enterd the realm of trolldom.
As I lay in bed last night...
November 14, 2006 - 18:20 ET by Gary HallAs I lay in bed last night... I suppose I was fantasizing a bit, and accidentally let out a little sigh of comfort. My wife stirred and in a suggestive tone prodded me, "What cha thinking about babe?"
Startled, unfortunately I found myself being all to honest. "Oh, I was just dreaming of how sweet it could have been if during one of Bill Clinton's 5 named military operations in Iraq or the daily no-fly zone sorties, or during the Kosovo War, or the ill-fated bombing of the civilian pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan, Helen Thomas actually popped off a question at Bill Clinton, like she does at Pres. Bush, "Mr. Clinton, just what is it with all of this 'Wanton Killing' all the time that you order up?"
And in my dreamy state, I actually envisioned him shaking that finger of his at Helen Thomas.
Had it not been for that, the evening may have taken a different path.
Gary,There are so many places
November 14, 2006 - 18:27 ET by Dave RGary,
There are so many places I could go with that, but I think I'm going to just leave that one alone.
You're a better man than I am
November 15, 2006 - 02:46 ET by Indiana JoeYou're a better man than I am, Gunga Dave!
So, Gary.... you have a comfortable couch, I presume?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Indiana Joe
November 15, 2006 - 12:44 ET by Gary HallConfucius say, "Man who has comfortable couch is a man without so much else."
ROFLMAO, Gary, not sure I wou
November 15, 2006 - 12:53 ET by JABROFLMAO, Gary, not sure I would have told anyone that story. How long does the wife hold grudges? ;-)
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful to the Ignorant"
JAB
November 15, 2006 - 12:57 ET by Gary HallLOL - you guys know I'm teasing. Right? But would not we all like to see that exchange? (;~>
To be honest Gary, I was not
November 15, 2006 - 13:02 ET by JABTo be honest Gary, I was not sure but it still created a good healthy laugh and no, I would not like to be that guy with my wife. Thanks again.
"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful to the Ignorant"
Fortunately for Confucius, He
November 15, 2006 - 17:44 ET by Dave RFortunately for Confucius, Helen Thomas wasn't around at the time. Ah, on second thought..........
I just saw the added picture
November 14, 2006 - 18:28 ET by Chris NormanI just saw the added picture of Helen. I am not one who usually denigrates another person's looks. But man, that woman sure has ugly bagged up...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Oh Chris - I think you were t
November 14, 2006 - 20:36 ET by FastEdOh Chris - I think you were thinking that she got hit with a bag full of nickles, and there was some change, and every Jefferson that fell out of the bag was crying. (I won't mention a past post, regarding lack of clothes . . ) And, yes HT, democracy works, just remember that when the bloom falls off the demo-lib rose - oh, you're ahead of that loss.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
Ugly... bagged... ugly...bag.
November 15, 2006 - 02:50 ET by Indiana JoeUgly... bagged... ugly...bag...
Got the "two-fer" in there, dintcha, Chris?
Maybe even a "three-fer!" .... ;^)
To paraphrase the insufferabl
November 14, 2006 - 18:28 ET by GalvanicTo paraphrase the insufferable Gore Vidal, Helen Thomas is testament to the embalmer's art.
Galv,I can't stand Vidal, but
November 14, 2006 - 18:30 ET by Chris NormanGalv,
I can't stand Vidal, but I've got to admit, he's fired off some great insults.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Chris, Vidal had aimed that o
November 14, 2006 - 21:47 ET by GalvanicChris, Vidal had aimed that one at Ronald Reagan, but it does come in handy. When you enemy throws a spear at you, pick it up and throw it back at them.
Galvanic,I really do hate to
November 14, 2006 - 21:52 ET by BlondeGalvanic,
I really do hate to pile on about HT's looks. But.....
I think I know why they require burkha's now.
Blonde.......HT is WAY, way
November 15, 2006 - 23:53 ET by ww thumperBlonde.......HT is WAY, way past due for a burkha , blimey she's an ugly mut!! :^} just joining in with the fun ww Political correctness when dealing with Islamist will kill america....ww
Well, if Helen doesn't work f
November 14, 2006 - 18:34 ET by Dave RWell, if Helen doesn't work for you, this should really do the trick.
Once again, Newsbusters score
November 14, 2006 - 18:41 ET by Roger the ShrubberOnce again, Newsbusters scores a direct hit with their accompanying photo!
Your right, Roger. She appea
November 14, 2006 - 18:44 ET by Dave RYou're right, Roger. She appears to have consumed a few too many adult beverages.
Any suggestions on Helen's fa
November 14, 2006 - 20:15 ET by NeoConfirmedAny suggestions on Helen's favorite drink?
I vote for the men run away screaming virgin
Is that fauxtography, or does
November 14, 2006 - 18:44 ET by AntiMediaIs that fauxtography, or does the camera add 100 years.
So, democracy works when th
November 14, 2006 - 19:05 ET by RightWiredSo, democracy works when the sheeple vote they way the communist lib media wants them to vote.
Somehow I don't think this is what our founding fathers had in mind.
Why are democrats so afraid of democracy?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This election was won by the socliast/extremist left wing MEDIA, not by the libs.
RightWired.
"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan
ET phone home.
November 14, 2006 - 19:50 ET by mytwocentsET phone home.
Helen and her coven are so bewitching
November 14, 2006 - 20:08 ET by PlaceboYeah, Helen, democracy works; especially with you and your coven mixing this and that, in your caldron; conjuring a winning potion for your Democrats. Besides, I hate to be so bold but where’s your hat and broom?
why Why WHY do you have to po
November 14, 2006 - 20:13 ET by Mean Gene Dr. Lovewhy Why WHY do you have to post a picture of Hell-in Thomas!??? I'm surprised the camera didn't break after that shot. Is there a reason she hasn't retired yet?
'When you wade into political life you have every right to say what you want, but you cannot in turn argue that no one has the right to take you on'... --Rush Limbaugh
Streak goin'
November 14, 2006 - 21:52 ET by acumen"Is there a reason she hasn't retired yet?"
Helen doesn't want to break her six year streak of not reporting any good news for this Administration.....
HT? Didn't she die several
November 14, 2006 - 21:57 ET by Eric TurnerHT? Didn't she die several years ago and stuffed by a taxidermist, installed with a speaker and a string in the back with 30 different liberal questions?
diebold works helen
November 14, 2006 - 22:42 ET by foolnomoreMy dear lady did you happen to subvert the questions at george washington's press conference like you do with this President's??
Helen Thomas
November 15, 2006 - 01:35 ET by pocomocoHelen Thomas: Democrats Win, 'Democracy Works'
Now wait a minute, Helen, all the credit should not all go to the Democrats, after all, the Republicans had a great deal to do with it too.
poco,Yep, handed it to them
November 15, 2006 - 02:53 ET by Indiana Joepoco,
Yep, handed it to them on a silver platter, didn't they?
Excellent point.
THOMAS: I thought the electio
November 15, 2006 - 04:01 ET by BricklayerTHOMAS: I thought the election proved that democracy works. People finally get the message. I think they're fed up with the war and all the torture and all the other things that have been attached to [the United States].
If "people...[getting] the message" is proof that democracy works, then HT sure has a funny idea of what democracy is. Either I'm misreading her, or she thinks that voters electing representatives based on MSM propoganda is democracy.
"People finally get the message." How much more condescending can you get? The American public finally saw the light, and voted the way HT told them to. And people wonder why MSM personalities are often called "elites..."
THOMAS: 'Cause there's no draft; every household is not affected. It's that kind of a war. It's very different. People don't feel that affected personally, but they're beginning to wise up and realize that the country is deeply affected. [emphasis mine]
More good stuff. Beyond more elitism, HT is saying that we should get out of Iraq because it is making us look bad (paraphrase based on her previous statements)? What a joke. I hope we have at least a few elected officials remaining who believe we should do what's best for the country (not necessarily what makes the US look good) in Iraq, regardless of how we got there, or whether or not we should have gone in the first place.
After America is reminded, wh
November 15, 2006 - 09:02 ET by danboAfter America is reminded, why they tossed the democrats out a number of years ago.
And toss them back out again.
Will Helen? Who will still be around. Living in the mummy exhibit of the Smithsonian. Will she, demand that the UN take over for America's own good.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
Kazakhstan
November 15, 2006 - 10:20 ET by loncgShe looks like a character in a BORAT skit, maybe ugliest woman in Kazakhstan.
When Will She Just Die!
November 15, 2006 - 15:58 ET by ChasvsWhen is this B!tch going to do us all a favor and just die? I would hope during a WH News Briefing for dramatic effect...
chasvs
November 15, 2006 - 16:03 ET by misterbillChasvs you have not paid attention. She died 8 years ago, but her liberal spirit is still talking........