There are bad people everywhere, including the MSM, and when you see broken windows and graffiti in the neighborhood, the bad people think it's ok to do wrong -- obviously, nobody gets punished. We have a whole lot of MSM bad boys who have been allowed to lie and push the envelope for a long time, and this attitude has spread. It's also encouraged by the Democrats in Congress who feed off and support this bad behavior. I say, let's start fixing the broken windows, just like Guilani did in NYC, and clean up the neighborhood.
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I'm surprised "lack of ideological diversity" is so-low. I think that's the elephant in the room, especially after that NYT dude actually said he didn't know Dowd's politics on a day besides April 1...If he was serious, the NYT has a serious ideological-diversity problem, and I'd think more of us "professional" bias people would see it. Oh well.
JMR
The elephants in the room are the LIES spread by the msm and the far left liberal/socialist freaks. To hell with diversity! TRUTH is the bottom line. I pray everyday for TRUTH. I don't want to ride the fence that is called diversity. That will do nothing but put splinters in my a**!
Rimsky is right. The same goes for "fair and balanced." That is the biggest bunch of baloney. Why balance the truth with lies? That's not balance, it's confusion.
The left's version of "diversity" (lots of different skin-colors & sexes, but 0 different ideas!) and what I (and I hope the NB poll's author) mean by intellectual diversity. We, or at least I, mean a diversity of ideas and political points of view, even if that diversity leads to arguments and management problems more-regimented newsrooms don't exhibit.
A lot of the antilibertarian and especially antigun bias I see isn't the result of agenda so much as ignorance, but from the outside it can look a hell of a lot like agenda. I'd be the last to deny there's SOME agenda there because we see it almost every day, but please go back and look at the NYT Dowd's political tendencies story from this weekend. I think it makes my point if the editor describing her was being honest. Sadly, I think the chances are he was being honest, and for him in his peer-group at the NYT, a far-left person really-is a "centrist."
JMR
The issue is thought control - whoever wants to control education in this world indicates that they have a problem - and both the left and right suffer from that - in the west the MSM has a serious leftward thought control problem right now...
True free speech is the answer...
And by free speech I don't mean swearing and slander...
"Lack of Diversity" is just a cop out. It deflects the attention from the obviously leftist, maniacal attacks on the right and does not directly impugn the attacker. These "journalists" have at the very least decided to attack the right and swoon to the left long ago. It is strikingly obvious to the non-left eye...who can say that the three alphabet network anchors read anything but the left's idea of news just about nightly? If so, is that a coincidence??? Please...
I voted for "Lack of Diversity." When there is ideological balance in the newsroom, a position tends to get more heavily scrutinized. When a newsroom is skewed to one side more heavily, and you are being scrutinized by like-minded individuals, it's more likely that the piece is going to fly through with blue ribbons, gold stars, laurels and hearty handshakes before it hits the streets.
Sure, some journalists are doing it deliberately. But I think they are in the minority. From my newsroom experiences, I think most liberal journalists simply lack the awareness that their worldview isn't necessarily the one held by everyone else.
I guess the votes for the "Conservatives are more corrupt than liberals" are the resident troll population on this website. Once again the socialist trolls are projecting their faults on the conservatives. There is no one more corrupt than liberals. Any truth can be spun, any lie told, any character smeared in the advancement of their agenda. The agenda is to supplant our pluralistic government and way of life with a Socialist (or worse) one.
A lot of it has to do with the MSM reporting for the home team. They can't see any evil in what their guys are doing, and everything the other guys do is evil.
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
I agree with "none of the above" (though lack of ideological diversity is a contributor).
A big part of it seems to be that the MSM repeats/propagates any story that "sounds right" to them or fits what they want to believe. They want to believe BOR is a racist, so they won't question or research the little clip they hear/read. They want Rush to be anti-troop, so they won't check the "phony troops" line. Its the same with the nutroots -if they hear anything they want to believe, they assume it must be true. No fact checking required unless its something they don't want to be true.
It is amusing to read comments above from people who never worked a day in the mainstream media contemplating this question when Laura Ingraham laid out the political facts of what CBS was like before she got fired there.
Personally, I can relate a story of a now big media personality sitting in a second market newsroom gleefully typing out a deliberate lying manipulation of a pro American story.........the reward was this person was soon elevated to the big market.
Lying and villification is how one advances. It has been a few years now, but I once saw on a news feed a little jerk named Steve Irwin in a midwest market just badger the bajesus out of Joe Foss, a World War II hero, ace and Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient, who was then head of the NRA. Irwin for being a complete ass soon ended up in a New York market.
For those who know these creatures of the media and the things which go on in propganda rooms, there is no "believing they are centrists" or "believing the story is right" for these liars know completely what they are doing.
None of that news happens by accident. They search for pictures and run video until they can get the goofiest picture they can of a Conservative or the GOP person being skewered. They measure these video feeds to the hundreth of seconds to include the subtle message meaning to be conveyed. This is an art and a science of fabrication in a war which they know they can not win on facts as normal humans will be repulsed by liberal enslavement and immorality.
With over 3000 votes. Over 80% believe it's deliberate. Not bias. This is verty telling. There is little if any trust in the media. No matter how much the trolls spin it.
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Bad people, broken windows, and graffiti
October 1, 2007 - 05:58 ET by ThisnThatThere are bad people everywhere, including the MSM, and when you see broken windows and graffiti in the neighborhood, the bad people think it's ok to do wrong -- obviously, nobody gets punished. We have a whole lot of MSM bad boys who have been allowed to lie and push the envelope for a long time, and this attitude has spread. It's also encouraged by the Democrats in Congress who feed off and support this bad behavior. I say, let's start fixing the broken windows, just like Guilani did in NYC, and clean up the neighborhood.
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Interesting
October 1, 2007 - 06:06 ET by sarcasmoI'm surprised "lack of ideological diversity" is so-low. I think that's the elephant in the room, especially after that NYT dude actually said he didn't know Dowd's politics on a day besides April 1...If he was serious, the NYT has a serious ideological-diversity problem, and I'd think more of us "professional" bias people would see it. Oh well.
JMR
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The elephants in the room
October 1, 2007 - 07:36 ET by rimskyThe elephants in the room are the LIES spread by the msm and the far left liberal/socialist freaks. To hell with diversity! TRUTH is the bottom line. I pray everyday for TRUTH. I don't want to ride the fence that is called diversity. That will do nothing but put splinters in my a**!
Rimsky is right. The same
October 1, 2007 - 07:53 ET by fosstenRimsky is right. The same goes for "fair and balanced." That is the biggest bunch of baloney. Why balance the truth with lies? That's not balance, it's confusion.
The unbiased TRUTH is what matters.
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I think you all are confusing
October 1, 2007 - 08:07 ET by sarcasmoThe left's version of "diversity" (lots of different skin-colors & sexes, but 0 different ideas!) and what I (and I hope the NB poll's author) mean by intellectual diversity. We, or at least I, mean a diversity of ideas and political points of view, even if that diversity leads to arguments and management problems more-regimented newsrooms don't exhibit.
A lot of the antilibertarian and especially antigun bias I see isn't the result of agenda so much as ignorance, but from the outside it can look a hell of a lot like agenda. I'd be the last to deny there's SOME agenda there because we see it almost every day, but please go back and look at the NYT Dowd's political tendencies story from this weekend. I think it makes my point if the editor describing her was being honest. Sadly, I think the chances are he was being honest, and for him in his peer-group at the NYT, a far-left person really-is a "centrist."
JMR
Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul.
The issue is thought
October 1, 2007 - 09:43 ET by TruthMongerThe issue is thought control - whoever wants to control education in this world indicates that they have a problem - and both the left and right suffer from that - in the west the MSM has a serious leftward thought control problem right now...
True free speech is the answer...
And by free speech I don't mean swearing and slander...
Cop Out - I voted deliberate intention
October 1, 2007 - 07:22 ET by VT Con Man"Lack of Diversity" is just a cop out. It deflects the attention from the obviously leftist, maniacal attacks on the right and does not directly impugn the attacker. These "journalists" have at the very least decided to attack the right and swoon to the left long ago. It is strikingly obvious to the non-left eye...who can say that the three alphabet network anchors read anything but the left's idea of news just about nightly? If so, is that a coincidence??? Please...
I voted for "Lack of
October 1, 2007 - 08:08 ET by Hero SquadI voted for "Lack of Diversity." When there is ideological balance in the newsroom, a position tends to get more heavily scrutinized. When a newsroom is skewed to one side more heavily, and you are being scrutinized by like-minded individuals, it's more likely that the piece is going to fly through with blue ribbons, gold stars, laurels and hearty handshakes before it hits the streets.
Sure, some journalists are doing it deliberately. But I think they are in the minority. From my newsroom experiences, I think most liberal journalists simply lack the awareness that their worldview isn't necessarily the one held by everyone else.
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I guess the votes for the
October 1, 2007 - 15:36 ET by ahusserI guess the votes for the "Conservatives are more corrupt than liberals" are the resident troll population on this website. Once again the socialist trolls are projecting their faults on the conservatives. There is no one more corrupt than liberals. Any truth can be spun, any lie told, any character smeared in the advancement of their agenda. The agenda is to supplant our pluralistic government and way of life with a Socialist (or worse) one.
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October 1, 2007 - 09:12 ET by JDWNone of the above
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Home team reporting
October 1, 2007 - 10:04 ET by pbanks7A lot of it has to do with the MSM reporting for the home team. They can't see any evil in what their guys are doing, and everything the other guys do is evil.
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
I agree with "none of the
October 1, 2007 - 10:51 ET by taznarI agree with "none of the above" (though lack of ideological diversity is a contributor).
A big part of it seems to be that the MSM repeats/propagates any story that "sounds right" to them or fits what they want to believe. They want to believe BOR is a racist, so they won't question or research the little clip they hear/read. They want Rush to be anti-troop, so they won't check the "phony troops" line. Its the same with the nutroots -if they hear anything they want to believe, they assume it must be true. No fact checking required unless its something they don't want to be true.
Deliberate Intention
October 1, 2007 - 14:58 ET by Lame CherryIt is amusing to read comments above from people who never worked a day in the mainstream media contemplating this question when Laura Ingraham laid out the political facts of what CBS was like before she got fired there.
Personally, I can relate a story of a now big media personality sitting in a second market newsroom gleefully typing out a deliberate lying manipulation of a pro American story.........the reward was this person was soon elevated to the big market.
Lying and villification is how one advances. It has been a few years now, but I once saw on a news feed a little jerk named Steve Irwin in a midwest market just badger the bajesus out of Joe Foss, a World War II hero, ace and Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient, who was then head of the NRA. Irwin for being a complete ass soon ended up in a New York market.
For those who know these creatures of the media and the things which go on in propganda rooms, there is no "believing they are centrists" or "believing the story is right" for these liars know completely what they are doing.
None of that news happens by accident. They search for pictures and run video until they can get the goofiest picture they can of a Conservative or the GOP person being skewered. They measure these video feeds to the hundreth of seconds to include the subtle message meaning to be conveyed. This is an art and a science of fabrication in a war which they know they can not win on facts as normal humans will be repulsed by liberal enslavement and immorality.
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With over 3000 votes. Over
October 1, 2007 - 16:16 ET by danboWith over 3000 votes. Over 80% believe it's deliberate. Not bias. This is verty telling. There is little if any trust in the media. No matter how much the trolls spin it.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
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Well this vote was a
October 1, 2007 - 16:26 ET by bigtimerWell this vote was a no-brainer...
LMAO!
whew
October 1, 2007 - 20:18 ET by lunaticcringeradioglad to see i'm in the majority and the completely adsurd answer is available out of fair and balanced polling.
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