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I still can't get over big
July 16, 2007 - 09:33 ET by sarcasmoI still can't get over big government taking credit for anti-crime work my friend does down the hall from me. I hereby publicly accuse them of unethical jury manipulation. Again. Will someone in the media besides "Information Week" notice? Who knows?? But I'm gonna make it as hard to ignore as Fox's lie in the case.
JMR
And in the meantime, the sa
July 16, 2007 - 10:02 ET by sarcasmoAnd in the meantime, the same big government regulators studiously-ignore an obvious scandal in the subprime mortgage "market." The ol' implode-o-meter is now at 99, and I'll bet she cracks 100+ before August...
JMR
}}----> Implode O Meter
July 16, 2007 - 10:10 ET by Cool ArrowI lost a house in the '80's. Bit off more than I could chew. The government doesn't owe me a damn thing for my dumb mistake.
I have a God given right to fail in my endeavors.
Nothing's changed. Slam down the phone when these guys call. It sounded too good to be true, and it was.
You weren't "too big t
July 16, 2007 - 10:53 ET by sarcasmoYou weren't "too big to fail," though. Try CitiBank-in-Mexico during the '80s sized mistakes next time, and you can do it all on taxpayers' wallets, just like they did. Yes, the taxpayers can be YOUR insurance company! Ain't it grand?? And yep, that's where we're heading with this fiscal disaster. Upon failure, I predict the big government regulators (who at the moment are hysterically wasting tax money on their bogus e-gold case) will say that they needed more tax money to regulate effectively. The problem is, with a news media this-biased, someone might believe 'em. Again.
JMR
}}----> I remember sarc
July 16, 2007 - 11:03 ET by Cool ArrowThe forgiven third world debt and the resultant loosening of domestic credit card rates. And those institutions had the same right to fail I did.
The Government was wrong to bail them out too.
Mark my words, they're gonn
July 16, 2007 - 14:07 ET by sarcasmoMark my words, they're gonna try it again in the current ML-implosion, or else very big institutions will have to fail. There's no other/third choice. The political impulse will be to print dollars to cover the irresponsible loss. Again. See LTCM, Amaranth, etc.
JMR
What won't be reported by the
July 16, 2007 - 09:34 ET by FastEdWhat won't be reported by the msm (Lsm) 7/16/07 - Security forces gaining strength, generals say
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Another week waiting
July 16, 2007 - 09:38 ET by econ 101Another week waiting for Ms. Clinton to spill the beans that she is not a Dem but a Socialist.
FOX NEWS is news. MSM is Jerry Springer crap
WWW.FAIRTAX.ORG
On Hillary and the Unfair Tax
July 17, 2007 - 04:30 ET by UnsaneShe already has with her cry of "I want to take those profits..."
Why the support for the Unfair Tax?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
}}----> Hillary's Socialism
July 16, 2007 - 09:49 ET by Cool ArrowShe openly declared such a couple of weeks ago. Just don't hold your breath waiting for her to use the actual word.
}}---> Hilary
July 16, 2007 - 09:57 ET by econ 101I know it really freaked me out. That speech was the closest any modern day candidate came to saying I AM A SOCIALIST. America you better wakeup. SOCIALISM = loss of LIBERTY. And LIBERTY is what makes America America
FOX NEWS is news. MSM is Jerry Springer crap
WWW.FAIRTAX.ORG
Can you tell me what thread t
July 16, 2007 - 16:03 ET by Maverick313Can you tell me what thread that was on??? This is the first I've heard of this and would like to read it. Any help would be appreciated!
If you don't stand behind our troops; please feel free to stand in front of them!
Mitt's getting some of his
July 16, 2007 - 09:40 ET by sarcasmoMitt's getting some of his policy ideas from The Onion.
JMR
other than the fact that Mi
July 16, 2007 - 15:38 ET by Conservative Voiceother than the fact that Mitt didn't have time to explain how he would go about it, I do agree with Mitt's premise that we should clean up our moral waters.
There's an easy way to go
July 17, 2007 - 03:25 ET by sarcasmoThere's an easy way to go about it. Less spending on an actually-smaller (nope, hot air's not gonna work for RINOs this time, sorry!) government.
JMR
I don't like to wake up early
July 16, 2007 - 09:44 ET by charlietexasI don't like to wake up early...wwaaahhhhh
5 days till saturday.....wwwaaaahhhhhhh
its busy at work....wwwwaaahhhhhh
feel sorry for me.....wwwaaahhh
Life is going great for me...
July 16, 2007 - 11:28 ET by TruthMongerLife is going great for me....waaaaaaaahhhhh:)
Gay haters unite!
}}----> Swift Packing
July 16, 2007 - 09:44 ET by Cool ArrowI'm sure I heard this weekend that Swift Packing was bought out by the largest meat packing plant in Mexico this weekend.
Anybody here got a link to this?
Brazil?
July 16, 2007 - 10:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberBrazil?
This is actually GOOD news -
July 16, 2007 - 10:57 ET by FastEdThis is actually GOOD news - consider - the GW folks have been complaing about cow flatulance, so now it's Brazil's problem - go blame the gauchos!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Brazil
July 16, 2007 - 11:08 ET by Cool ArrowYeah, it was a 3 initial company. May have been JBS of Brazil.
Ought to make it easier to hire Illegals back into the Colorado plant.
How many days until John McCa
July 16, 2007 - 09:49 ET by GothampcHow many days until John McCain announces he is withdrawing his candidacy for POTUS?
My guess is he will not be around by Labor Day.
I think he's already runnin
July 16, 2007 - 09:53 ET by sarcasmoI think he's already running for VP now, not that he'd ever admit it. What I want to know is, who's hiring all that expensive professional political staff McCain just dumped? I mean, aside from the fast food industry, there might not be that many employers interested...
JMR
I think they are jumping ship
July 16, 2007 - 10:02 ET by GothampcI think they are jumping ship because they realize they are backing the John Kerry of the Republican Party. Flip-flops should be banned from the White House.
}}----> McCain
July 16, 2007 - 09:53 ET by Cool ArrowI just hope he withdrew when he slept with Ted Kennedy. That would be one ugly fat baby
You know the old saying: Wh
July 16, 2007 - 10:04 ET by GothampcYou know the old saying: When you lie down with dogs, you get up and flee. (Well that's my interpretation of it anyway).
}}----> Old saying
July 16, 2007 - 10:06 ET by Cool ArrowBetter to sleep with old hen than pullet.
That's disgusting-----
July 16, 2007 - 12:47 ET by misterbillThat's disgusting-----not what you said--the thought of it!!! LOL
I just want to know when we'l
July 16, 2007 - 10:24 ET by BruzillaI just want to know when we'll quit hearing references to him as the "former front runner". The only place this RINO has been a front runner has been in the minds of liberals and the media.
More bias against Ron Paul
July 16, 2007 - 10:38 ET by sarcasmoMore bias against Ron Paul busted. Again. And for a bonus, an interesting analysis of polls and why they might be a bit biased, just like the media...
JMR
}}----> sarc
July 16, 2007 - 10:42 ET by Cool ArrowI take it you have a Ron Paul Jones?
Not just me, NewsMax even m
July 16, 2007 - 10:47 ET by sarcasmoNot just me, NewsMax even managed to mention Dr. Paul positively. Think about how much things like this cost his campaign... My guess? $0. This is the contrast with the McCain campaign the "mainstream" (think: "economics-challenged") news media ain't gonna see, but those of us who've experienced the fiscal hardship of running as a Large-L Libertarian know how to make a fiscal desert bloom because we're all too used to fiscal droughts. McCain's campaign was a warning to taxpayers who want different spending policies.
JMR
}}----> Blank Canvas
July 16, 2007 - 10:52 ET by Cool ArrowThink of all the Gangsta' taggers who could put their skills to good use making signs.
Six out of the past seven Ope
July 16, 2007 - 11:24 ET by stratmanSix out of the past seven Open Threads you've participated in you've posted Ron Paul's name and/or link. Wonder what compelled you to miss one of the Open Threads to spam Dr. Paul's name.
I'm beginning to think you are Ron Paul and that Sarcasmo is your un-covert apparat nom de plume.
Ironically, for me that is, your badgering over Paul led me to read up on him and watch some videos too. He's not a half bad guy. A little kooky, but, who wouldn't be as an OB-GYN. Like Bush, he seems like a person I would enjoy hanging out with. Not that I want to reinforce your rationale or motivate you to further spam the Open Thread, but, I learned something I probably wouldn't have otherwise.
Thanks for the head's up on the soylent green "Republican" candidate.
Stratman..... I think you'
July 16, 2007 - 12:06 ET by JayTeeStratman..... I think you've hit upon something there.....Sarcasmo may be RON Paul...yea, that explains his constant harping on the "Stop the War" candidate. This is a NEWS Busters website........and Ron Paulie baby ain't in the news.
What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ? David Foote GoE
Sarcasmo = Ron PaulThat would
July 16, 2007 - 12:43 ET by stratmanSarcasmo = Ron Paul
That would be newsworthy!
It would be neat if a presidential candidate participated on NB.
Could that mean that USnot is Dennis Kucinich? (I think I just insulted Dennis. Sorry.)
Nope squared. I'm not him,
July 16, 2007 - 13:58 ET by sarcasmoNope squared. I'm not him, but I do force the bias against him out into the open. For example, do you think someone else is in 3rd for the money race? Nope cubed. It's Ron Paul in realityville.
JMR
I think you and your Ron Paul
July 16, 2007 - 17:44 ET by stratmanI think you and your Ron Paul buddies need to remediate in math quickly:
"At this point, Giuliani is, by far, the undisputed leader in the “Money Primary”, with $18,326,220.29 on hand with no debts.
Romney is second, with $12,121,553.85 on hand. But wait a minute! He has $8,945,028.22 in debts, giving him a NET total of only $3,176,525.63. Worse, yet, at this point he is actually funding his campaign out of his own pocket; to the tune of $8,850,000 he has “loaned” himself. The big question is: How much more money is he willing to “borrow” from himself? He may be better suited for the role of Chairman of The Federal Reserve, since he likes to use smoke and mirrors to create the illusion of having plenty of money!
In third? You guessed it! The good Dr. Paul! $2,354,855.32 and debt-free!
Next we have the “drunken sailor”, Senator McCain. $3,224,427.60 on hand plus $126,105.50 in “Debts and Obligations Owed TO the Committee”. Right, like he’ll ever see any of THAT money! Subtracting his debts leaves a net total of $1,567,009.86, just enough for one more binge with his drinking buddies."
Guliani is in first with $18,326,220.29.
Romney is second and has $12,026,525.63 for his campaign. That he "loaned" himself the money is irrelevant. It is money for spending on the campaign.
McCain is in third with $3,098,322.10, according to the article you linked. ( $3,224,427.60 minus $126,105.50)
Paul is in fouth place with $2,354,855.32.
I find it very interesting, and obediant of you, to work in the Ron Paul Talking Point Of The Day. At the bottom of the article you linked is the comment -
Regardless, Fred Thompson will be the leader and receive the nomination, barring any major issues, if and when he enters the race. Paul will fade like autumn sunshine in November.
I haven't decided yet if you remind me of Sancho or Don Quixote himself yet. Time will tell, my friend.
MORE Ron Paul spammers.
July 17, 2007 - 03:30 ET by sarcasmoUh, notice despite your accusation that I did not work in that talking-point, YOU DID! :) Here's today's though. The US Military is now spamming for Ron Paul. But I'm sure the fact that you had to hear that from me instead of the media isn't evidence I've busted even-more bias, and I'm glad you're so obedient to Thompson. The fact that Mitt's money's mostly a loan from himself is only irrelevant to YOU, not to me, and in case anyone wondered, I still obey nobody but sarcasmo, as always...
JMR
I did not have sex with that woman
July 17, 2007 - 10:44 ET by stratman"I did not work in that talking-point..."
I figured you were going to say this. You did work it in indirectly by the fact that you linked the page that had the "talking point" on it. If one reads the page then the "talking point" is made. For the sake of argument, I'll give you that one. Now let's get to the meat of the matter.
You make zero reconciliation of the accounting error which led to your erroneous statement that Paul is third in money matters. Your obfuscation regarding the source of Romney's money was superfluous given the context of your link - who has the most money currently. Money is money. Paul either has more money or less money, regardless of its origin. Paul is in fourth place, not third place, according to your link. Your latest link on donations from self-described military personnel was not substantiated in the text. Maybe I glossed over the place where the data was presented. I await your reply. Until then, this link is self-serving at best and spurious at worst until proven otherwise.
I read your links, actually agreed with some of your talking points which you spam repeatedly over, and then get insulted by you. Way to convince people to your cause. For the record, Fred Thompson is not running as of yet, I haven't donated to him or any other politician and my "obedience" is to no politician. Unlike you, I do not spam for politicians. I do think Thompson, if he enters the race, will be the front runner for the Republicans despite any skeletons in his closet or breaks from traditional conservative doctrine. Ron Paul may get more votes than Pat Paulsen but he has as much a chance, , for better or worse, as the comedian.
Did you figure I was going
July 17, 2007 - 10:55 ET by sarcasmoDid you figure I was going to say it maybe because it's TRUE? I'm quite predictable that way, you know...And like it or not, Mitt's on borrowed money, and borrowed money ain't donations. I stand by ALL my words, as usual. The military donation data is from the FEC, what more do you want? You just don't happen to like it, but calling it unsubstantiated is intellectually lazy. Tough. We get military supporters, too. Deal with it. And I see plenty of Fred Thompson spam in sigfiles 'round these parts unless you share the news media's usual double-standard for "spam." Plus, perhaps unlike you, I still don't and didn't obey anyone, like it or not, so deal with that, too. And maybe we should just call off the primarys, since you've spoken on what the voters want, and you're such an authority...
JMR
But they were doing it too, Mommy
July 17, 2007 - 18:42 ET by stratman1) Technically, by directing people to a link where the talking points are listed is getting the talking points out. I conceded the issue to you out of graciousness.
2) Romney's donation as "loan" origin is inconsequential from a dollars and cents view when it comes to how much a candidate has in their war chest for spending. Money in the bank is money to be spent on the campaign. Parse it any way you want, Romney has approximately ten million dollars more than Paul and that amount goes a lot farther than Paul's.
3) Paul is in fourth place in the money game, not third, according to your link. You avoid admitting error yet so clearly revel in pointing out others. Man up, Sarcasmo.
4) I could care less if Paul has a 100 million dollar war chest and military personnel, past or present, donating to his campaign. Never said to the contrary. I'll bet you that all the candidates have military personnel donate to them. Donor identification as military personnel was subject to the whim of the donator to be identified as such. This capricious statistic was about as unscientific as it gets without being laughed at outright.
5) I now see where the military donors are listed under Paul's contributors. You were correct. I was being intellectually lazy, as you put it, not drilling down three links and scrolling down a long page to count up various and ungrouped donors fitting the description of military. How would like it if I gave you a link in which my supportive evidence was buried several links in from the original? The cat and mouse game is a time waster and borders on the disingenuous. I asked for the specific and you gave me the general (actually you parroted the identical link).
6) I wasn't aware our discussion included everyone else on the forum. What other poster's have done is irrelevant to what you or I do in this instance. Your frequent Ron Paul Emergency Broadcast System announcements, replete with delusions of everyone and their brother out to get you and Paul, are hyperbolic, obsessive and tiresome. That is a form of spam. It also acts as a deterrent for me to be further interested in Paul.
Despite your constant nagging, I decided to give Paul a fair shake and read a few links about the man. Paul seems like a decent enough person with some good ideas. I've already said he seems personable and would probably enjoy spending time conversing with him. Even so, I find it dishonest that he does not run under the Libertarian moniker since he surely is one. His reasoning for disguising himself as a Republican in order to gain power is wrong at its core though understandable in the context of his ambitions. I disagree with his stance on the Iraq war. I disagree with some of his stance on what he calls American Independence and Sovereignty. I don't care for isolationalistic politics as I reckon it not to be a realistic understanding of the modern world. I also disagree with several of his Privacy and Personal Liberty talking points.
Yet I do agree with a variety of his other talking points on his web page and on Wikipedia, but, the Devil is in the details and I'm not hearing the details. For instance, he talks about property rights of individuals as the foundation of a free society, yet he also speaks of city's using eminent domain to obtain private individual's property "without paying “just compensation.” " This seems a little wishy washy to me. Is eminent domain reasonable if the individual is compensated "justly"? What does "just compensation" mean? Either individual property rights are to be observed or they are not. He seems to be hedging his bets on this.
I look forward to seeing Paul in the debates. I hope they are on free broadcast tv as I don't have cable or satellite. My mind is not made up yet. My comments about Fred Thompson are not as my chosen "golden child" but from a consideration of his popularity despite being undeclared in a group of less than thoroughbred contenders as a snapshot of the race today. Barring major mishaps, for better or worse, my prediction is he will be the Republican candidate (if he enters the race). Same goes for Hilary Clinton on the Democrat side.
Still, there is much time remaining and many a misstep can be made.
Mommy, sarc smacked-down my "argument" again!
July 18, 2007 - 03:15 ET by sarcasmo1. You've only conceded what I've already shot down. Everyone can look above and see that I did NOT ("obediently or otherwise") spread any anti-Tancredo talking points here. I have the right to link to sites I want, and it's not "spam" just because you don't like it, so you have to deal with it, but at least be honest about me and what I've said if you want ANY respect at all.
2. Romney's loan is important, like it or not. Loans aren't like gifts, especially giant ones from yourself.
3. Nope, he's in third according to this link http://www.dailypaul... just as I said, unless you count what McCain has on his credit cards...
4. I don't believe you, and think you've already made up your mind because of your previous words. That's fine, though, as I've made up my mind, too.
5. It didn't take drilling down three links unless you wanted to verify, but verification was possible, like it or not and whine about drilling down 3 links or not, facts are sometimes nasty that way.
6. You get to have 0 input on what I post here. The ONLY owner is Matthew, and he's actually-done what I've suggested that the rest of you do in spite of the fact that his opinion's the only important one. Yep, he's said nothing. I will link to what I want, how I want, when I want, and as often as I want, is that clear to you? Good. Call me a spammer for it, and I will make fun of you again. I find Republicans who think Libertarians have a chance despite third party ballot access laws they passed dishonest, too, so we're even on the dishonesty-charges as well. You're not very convincing, frankly.
JMR
Decision -> Neo-Quixote
July 18, 2007 - 11:17 ET by stratman1) You get the Ron Paul message/talking points out on NB on a near daily basis in my (small) sampling. That is your priviledge as a member of NB. Your posts oftentimes contain multiple links in support of Paul, including a page to purchase Ron Paul's book. Is that overkill, fanaticism or spam? BTW, when did Tancredo specifically enter the discussion previously?
2) Your link was about where the candidates stand in the "Money Primary", not who has the fewest donors or loaned money to themselves. Romney has about 10 million dollars more than Paul. Who leads the "Money Primary" is about war chest size and not origins of the money. If you want it to be about something else then don't predicate the article on who's where in the "Money Primary". The author of the article tried to varnish facts to maneuver a Paul point of the day.
3) The math for Paul does not add up on the page, as I repeatedly pointed out. Yet you continue to appear to fail to recognize, at least publically, your fallability and that of your fellow Paul megaphones. It's a small error on the page, easily corrected, but you worsen the situation by failing to recognize incorrect mathematics. Ignoring it only worsens the perception of your credibilty. So what if Paul is third or fourth. The American public is not conspiring against Paul. Howard Dean rode a comet of grassroots internet popularity which allowed him to become the favored Democrat. Paul could do the same. If his message and persona is "on point" then the support will follow.
4) I can not help you with your delusions.
5) "... unless you wanted to verify...". Hmm. Silly me for wanting verification over your fellow Paul sycophants rants which have been incorrect in the past (see # 3). Your hypocritical and arrogant stance on this is sublime.
6) Earth to Sarcasmo... I get to have 100% input on anything you post here, and vice versa, as long as the discourse follows NB guidelines. What you once again failed to recognize and deal with was the expanding and obfuscating content of your remarks, such as including other posters habits as a defense for your own actions. The "anti-Tancredo" comment above qualifies as well. I've worked with ADHD children. Their inability to stay on task is involuntary. Your inability to stay on task is voluntary, a willful evasion of issues.
"I will link to what I want, how I want, when I want, and as often as I want, is that clear to you?"
How stunningly 'id' of you.
And the fact that he "
July 16, 2007 - 13:59 ET by sarcasmoAnd the fact that he "ain't in the news" is at least partly explained by singlehandedly-busted bias. Glad you noticed.
JMR
I agree that only the "f
July 16, 2007 - 17:47 ET by stratmanI agree that only the "front runners" get coverage by the MSM. Paul, and the other candidates, should be heard by Americans in order to formulate a learned opinion. Maybe when the Republican debates begin.
See my previous post about
July 17, 2007 - 03:32 ET by sarcasmoSee my previous post about the US military supposedly-spamming him with dollars. What we have here is a hard to measure or understand by the MSM groundswell, and it's upsetting people here and people in the news media. Good. :) You'll get over it.
JMR
Nope. It ain't "spam&q
July 16, 2007 - 13:56 ET by sarcasmoNope. It ain't "spam" to point out bias, as I have REPEATEDLY AND SINGLEHANDEDLY right here. And yes, the NB masthead has still yet to point out one bit of media bias against Dr. Paul. Not once (and no, "Editor's Pick" snarkiness & debate-fearing immaturity do not count!). So I've either done it all, as I've said, or there just has not been ANY media bias against Dr. Paul. Take your choice.
JMR
What does this mean?:"Ed
July 16, 2007 - 17:55 ET by stratmanWhat does this mean?:
"Editor's Pick" snarkiness & debate-fearing immaturity do not count!
(not a joke or sarcasm)
The editor's picks have
July 17, 2007 - 03:41 ET by sarcasmoThe editor's picks have repeatedly had disrespectful stuff about Dr. Paul. Stuff that NB itself would call "bias" and scream like stuck pigs if it happened to any of the pro-war Republican candidates anywhere else. Ask the masthead for their previous URLs, with stuff like a deep "Redstate.com" analysis that proved a guy with a lot of time on his hands probably doesn't have a girlfriend to me. At least this time's shot taken at Dr. Paul isn't as blatantly-immature as the last one...But ultimately I'm calling NB on their own bias here, I have been for a while, and you've now noticed it. Congrats! I'm still laughing about how folks here will react to this URL. I predict an excuse-fest.
JMR
Are the "editor's picks"
July 17, 2007 - 13:13 ET by stratmanAre the "editor's picks" you refer to the ones NewsBusters has? I didn't notice/recall these until yesterday when the forum's format changed. I use an 800x600 screen resolution and didn't see them, or recall about them, until yesterday.
How are the Editor's Picks selected? Who or what decides? Is it a single human's opinion or is it based on a numerical scale such as number of responses? Today's Picks appear to have no mention about Paul, at least in the headlines.
I wouldn't be surprised that Paul came under scrutiny of NB'ers. He is not a classic conservative Republican candidate. Paul is going to take some hits on this forum. I would hope he is not be misrepresented, though, on this forum.
I'll keep an eye towards bias concerning Paul on the forum. Fair is fair.
Yes. I'm pretty sure it's
July 17, 2007 - 13:30 ET by sarcasmoYes. I'm pretty sure it's Matt & Ken, could be others on the masthead too. I'm thinking I recall being told it's definitely more than one person, too. And today's picks DO mention Dr. Paul (as does this Reason article!) disparagingly-as-usual but, once-again, not in context. The NB group is devoted to anti-right bias. Mediamatters is devoted to anti-left media bias. There IS NO GROUP out there at all for anti-libertarian bias, obviously. there's just-me and a sort of coral-reef of similarly-disorganized political creatures working together... And the funniest part is, with that last link, I just TOTALLY gave away "our secret," but nobody in any of the other campaigns can do anything about it unless they copy Dr. Paul's policies of less government & more freedom. Heh heh heh...Oh, and the "coral reef" still independently finds media bias aplenty, here's today's.
JMR
I read the Editor's Picks
July 17, 2007 - 19:32 ET by stratmanI read the Editor's Picks link concerning Paul and Sheehan. It is not complementary. He did, though, say what they quoted as per the link to the audio of his telephone interview on the Alex Jones Radio Show. In the recording is a bit of the interview of Paul by George Stephanopoulos where George tells Ron flat out he will lose in the primaries. Wonder if Georgie would be so blunt in such a condescending fashion with all the Democrat candidates. I'll need to monitor the Editor's Picks for a while to determine if a bias is present.
After looking at your four links, I enjoyed a portion of one of the links concerning sketchy un-PC comments allegedly made by Paul:
Enquiring minds want to know!
Important news from Iran.
July 16, 2007 - 11:05 ET by Roger the ShrubberImportant news from Iran.
}}----> Thanks, Shrubber
July 16, 2007 - 11:15 ET by Cool ArrowJust sickening.
Maybe Hillary and her N.O.W. friends will say something. Not likely though, the story has nothing to do with abortion.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
And that is liberal compare
July 16, 2007 - 12:10 ET by BlameTheMediaAnd that is liberal compared to how women are treated in our ally country Saudi Arabia.
I see someone has their "
July 16, 2007 - 16:11 ET by Roger the ShrubberI see someone has their "humor cloaking device" fully engaged.
I'm sure the Liberal foilha
July 16, 2007 - 11:19 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarI'm sure the Liberal foilhats are frustrated to no end over the recent Japenese earthquakes. As their little hamster-wheel driven minds tumble "How can we blame this on Global Warming, the human race and Bush???"
Of course it wouldn't cross their vacuous craniums that it's the Earth doing what it is meant to ... and always has done.
Just like global warming.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark TwainThis one is easy:KarlRoveWeat
July 16, 2007 - 11:21 ET by Roger the ShrubberThis one is easy:
Karl
Rove
Weather
Machine
Ahhh, that's right. HAARP.&qu
July 16, 2007 - 11:25 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarAhhh, that's right. HAARP.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
}}----> Consensus on Rove
July 16, 2007 - 11:26 ET by Cool ArrowThe scientific consensus is that a .7 degree rise in the earth's temperature decreases the thickness of the earth's mantle sufficiently to increase the number of earthquakes and their magnitude.
To believe otherwise is to deny the holocaust. Case closed.
Well, sure. Now I get it! The
July 16, 2007 - 11:31 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarWell, sure. Now I get it! The melting caps and glaciers are displacing the weight on the crust and causing a shift that only a flux capacitor can fix!!!
BWAHahaha ... where's the foil.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
}}----> Nice DeLorean you got there
July 16, 2007 - 11:37 ET by Cool ArrowProfessor, how did you get that thing to run on garbage? Al Gore wants to talk to you.
George Bush hates Japanaese p
July 16, 2007 - 15:52 ET by Roger the ShrubberGeorge Bush hates Japanaese people.
Obvious revenge for them making his dad puke.
Will the MSM report “Succes
July 16, 2007 - 12:01 ET by JayTeeWill the MSM report “Success” in the Iraq War ?
Will they report “Victory” in Iraq ?
The MSM will be Conflicted, as while they do not “LIKE” war, they may have to decide If they like “Victory” in the near Future.
Nothing can stand up to the USA Military, and while everyone left of Victory will say there has to be a “Political” solution to the Terrorist problem, they need to understand that Political solutions soon follow “Victory”, or military Solutions. And one of the soon to be discovered Political Solutions, will be the Political solution to “Democrats for Defeat”…..as the next election will give the Dems. their long awaited desire for Defeat. The Majority of Americans in America, are "Americans for Victory".
What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ? David Foote GoE
It is too bad we are so foc
July 16, 2007 - 12:14 ET by BlameTheMediaIt is too bad we are so focused on shooting the messenger instead holding the planners of this war accountable for not doing it right in the first place. It isn't the fault of the soldiers or the media that there are not enough men to do the job. If there were, it would have been done by now. Bush was advised early on to go in with 300,000+ men to secure the country. Who was that guy??? He was a general and I think asked to resign. Anyway, until we stop with this spitting in the ocean to watch it rise approach, we are outnumbered and it will be hard to make any gains.
Why don't we leave like the soveriegn nation of Iraq's government told us we could?
Assistance for Blame
July 17, 2007 - 04:40 ET by UnsaneBlame - Let me help you here. I know, (in your view) the government is NOT here to protect and defend you, but rather to coddle, spoil and nanny you and otherwise be a Big Charity as you have called for it to be in the past...
...but even if we had 300,000 troops there, we'd STILL be outnumbered, for the Iraqis number 25 MILLION.
As a logistician, I can assure you that planning a war is a major PITA. Virtually all war planning and contingency planning flies out the window once the first shots are fired. But if you are so sure it is apple-pie easy, you can try it sometime.
We aren't leaving because it is much better to have the military kill terrorists in downtown Baghdad rather than hope and pray that the PD can try to in downtown Houston.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
"Bush was advised earl
July 16, 2007 - 12:50 ET by Jerry"Bush was advised early on to go in with 300,000+.."
Yes, and he was also advised that the war could be prosecuted successfully with a smaller force. What's your point. EVERY president gets ADVICE from multiple ADVISORS. That's why they call them advisors. They give advice. Here's another little bit of wisdom. It's called ADVICE, not a COMMAND. It is the president's job to listen to ALL the advice and then make an educated DECISION.
BTW, the war was prosecuted VERY SUCCESSFULLY with a smaller force, in record time, with minimal casualties. Securing the peace is proving to be tougher for two reasons.
1. The terrorists are focusing all of their efforts at derailing the process of democratization in Iraq.
2. The liberals and MSM are focusing all of their efforts at derailing the process of democratization in Iraq.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Jerry.... One of the "
July 16, 2007 - 13:03 ET by JayTeeJerry.... One of the "accidents" of not having enough Troops....turns out to be that the Iraqui's got to experience first hand living under the Al Queda rule. And now we are seeing a revolt....insurgents against Al Queda and insurgents FOR Iraq.
July 11 News that was suppressed by MSM is slowly getting "Brief" mention....
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3365459
Iraqi ground forces support by US air power isolated an insurgent filled town by bombing the bridges around it and stormed it with ground troops. And when the residents realized who was fighting the insurgents, they joined in and helped recapture their town.
After all, we don't want too much GOOD NEWS about the SURGE working.
What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ? David Foote GoE
Wow JT! Love it! I'm s
July 16, 2007 - 13:12 ET by JerryWow JT! Love it! I'm sure the MSM will give stories like this the same attention that they gave Gitmo.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Okay, I've put you down for b
July 16, 2007 - 12:56 ET by DemonhunterOkay, I've put you down for being in favor of the surge. Please lobby your Democrat friends in Congress to provide funds for another 150,000 troops.
If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons
"President Chavez shou
July 16, 2007 - 12:39 ET by JDW"President Chavez should know that efforts to suppress the media will not only ultimately fail, but are also a detriment to one of the pillars of democracy: freedom of expression." - Pelosi
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
GrandMa needs to get over her
July 16, 2007 - 12:56 ET by FastEdGrandMa needs to get over her nap - there is no democracy with Chavez. 'Course, one can try free expression there - as they have the freedom to die in front of a firing squad. And she's the best the demolibs have?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Most foreign insurgents Saudi
July 16, 2007 - 12:56 ET by LeonMost foreign insurgents Saudi?
Huh?
I thought they were all from Syria and Iran? What's going on? Is Tony Snow lying to me? No Way!
Most of the Suicide Bombers
July 16, 2007 - 13:02 ET by MightyMouthMost of the Suicide Bombers are Saudi, we've known that since 9/11.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
From the article:"Citi
July 16, 2007 - 13:06 ET by JerryFrom the article:
"Citing an unnamed senior US military officer and Iraqi lawmakers.."
I feel much better about the reliability of the "news" now. I bet he was in a coma and recovered just long enough to spill the beans before he died.
Any story that quotes "un-named sources" is not worth a hill of doggie poop.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Oh. I thought Snow said that
July 16, 2007 - 15:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberOh. I thought Snow said that foreign fighters in Iraq were COMING ACROSS THE BORDER from Syria and Iran, not that they were mostly Syrian or Iranian. I would like to see where Snow said that, just to clear up any confusion.
Good point. Good point. I
July 16, 2007 - 15:56 ET by LeonGood point. Good point. I needed a fall man and I chose Snow. Probably, not the best choice in today's hectic world of semantic based reasoning.
Although, now that I think of it, I don't remember him saying they were Saudi, which by omission, would seem to imply that they were Syrian and Iranian.
Once again, Leon, you are loo
July 16, 2007 - 16:06 ET by Roger the ShrubberOnce again, Leon, you are looking for these.
It helps, when trying to be a smart-ass, to actually have something to back yourself up with.
I, actually, would consider Egypt, with a population greater than Iran, to have more potential of providing religious nutjobs to "the cause" than a country like Syria, who has 50 million less people to cull from.
Roger, I agree 100%. I've
July 16, 2007 - 17:36 ET by LeonRoger,
I agree 100%. I've always feared Egypt more than Iran or Syria. Mubarak is bad. But he's not what scares me.
Any country with a dictator is going to be a breeding ground for terrorism. Tons of disenfranchised youths with no jobs. They have an unemployment rate of 10.3%. It's not an environment conducive to our cause.
Oh and Roger, I don't need
July 16, 2007 - 17:37 ET by LeonOh and Roger,
I don't need to look for my straws.
I always carry them with me :)
"I need