Bush Administration is a Disgrace to United States of America


Bush Administration is a Disgrace to United States of America

Scooter Libby was convicted of 4 counts out of 5. Now the republicans are crying foul and calling for the pardon of Libby. You have got to be kidding me! What ever happened to the Bush promise (like that’s worth a tinkers damn) that he would fire anyone that was involved in the Valerie Plame leak. Well George, Cheney, Rove are still there… What you going to do?

Pardoning Libby is just the slap in the face Americans need. What the hell, GWB has arrogantly flown in the face of the American public by continuing to send American soldiers to Iraq. The war that Bush stared based on lies and trumped up intelligence has taken our military to the brink of destruction. Our military leaders have indicated that we are totally incapable of protecting our home land in the case of an emergency. Yet, Bush, the fearless cowboy “decider” has decided that that’s really not important and continuing the death sentence for our soldiers in Iraq is the path for us. “Stay the course” has become the death march for our military.

Now we find out that when our soldiers return home due to injuries in Iraq they are moved to slum lord hospitals run by our government. I wouldn’t let my dog be treated in such squalor as the Walter Reid Veterans Hospital. This is the thanks we give our soldiers for putting their lives on the line. This is what GWB and cronies call “supporting our troops?” I don’t think so! These men and women have given much to each of us Americans and the best we can do is send them to some filthy dilapidated mismanaged chamber of abuse to rehab their injuries? What is wrong with the public that they are not calling for the impeachment of the entire bush administration?

In the mean time the hearings on the dismissal of court judges around the country has revealed that Bush has his hit men dismissing judges who go against his vile behavior by prosecuting those that carry out his misguided attack on American justice. These judges are being dismissed for upholding the values of America. If they prosecute one of the republican corrupt villains they will soon find themselves dismissed by this administration. Is George Bush setting us up for a take over by his corrupt administration and taking the judges that would resist such a coup out of the way?

This is very dangerous territory we find ourselves in. Nazi Germany has experience with such treasonous leadership. Maybe the American public had better pull out a history book and see where this pattern of criminal behavior is leading us. Lack of action on the American publics’ part could be the destruction of our way of life.

Our constitution has been altered just enough to allow him to do whatever he wants to us dissenters. Some things are just worth fighting for! Get polished up on the book “For Whom the Bell Tolls” we will soon need those willing to come forth to stand up to the treasonous erosion of our government. No George, your corrupt behavior is not without notice!


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Clearly your a noob on this

Clearly your a noob on this site. Comparing the US to Nazi Germany or saying the constitution has been destroyed (althought both things are true) is a no no.

Welcome to the club!

Oooohhh,The idiot club has a

Oooohhh,

The idiot club has a new member.

Sheesh.

Some club, won't be joinin' s

Some club, won't be joinin' soon

Hey ToiletPaper !

Hey TP, you got a nutter butter commie brudder aboard. Ya notice he copied and pastied his kooky screed from his linked webpage. Guess he needed some viewers for his insane rambling. Gotta hand it to him, though don't cha ? He came up with that judge dismissal pre-takeover all by his lonesome didn't he, or has that been circulating in your nutterweb dipspots ?

lol - you're not alone anymore ToiletPaper !

Use some facts to show how

Use some facts to show how we are like Nazi Germany and how the Constitution has been destroyed.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

ARR - Can't back up his big mouth

And nearly two hours later, your challenge to ARR to back up what he has said has been ignored.

. . . bacause he has no facts, just talking points. I think he's a sock puppet for Bill Maher.

Idiot. I might point out tha

Idiot. I might point out that WWII Naz-ism was built on SOCIALISM. The party of SOCIALISTS in this country between the GOP and the Democrats, is the democrats. This is exactly the sort of reason no one takes you seriously.

The Avatar

name calling isn't nice

so·cial·ism 

    1.  Economic system which is based on cooperation rather than competition and which utilizes centralized planning and distribution.

I don't see any of the Republican candidates proposing to get rid of welfare.  Well I guess there is one.  Republicans are socialists with guns, Democrats are socialists with pencils.  Link of article connecting nazism and socialism:

http://www.mises.org/story/1937

The 'planning' is a page not

The 'planning' is a page not found quite appropos

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

I apologize, I'm not sure how

I apologize, I'm not sure how to get rid of the hyperlink.  Please ignore it.  Thanks for pointing it out botg. 

I actually took it as some fi

I actually took it as some fine planning on your part, as i remember the USSR with their 5 year plans which led them deeper and deeper into economic collapse

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

I apologize, I'm not sure how

I apologize, I'm not sure how to get rid of the hyperlink.  Please ignore it.  Thanks for pointing it out botg. 

Democrats are socialists with

Democrats are socialists with pencils.

LMAO-Hey fields, try not paying your taxes and see who it is that shoots you first.

You may very well find those "pencils" are damn well loaded!

Build the damn fence, George!

My point was about socialism.

My point was about socialism.  Democrats will propose bills to give more money to poor, while Republicans propose bills to give more money to violent causes, i.e. war or troops.  I don't support either platform but it's easier to say Democrats are bureaucrats who like pencils, Republicans are bureaucrats who like guns.  It was an example of what Democrats and Republicans support 97.6% of the time.  We all know that if you disagree with either of their laws, you will be looking down the barrel of a gun.  Laws in essence are opinions backed by guns.  It would be hard to find a judge or police officer who would argue that.  Thanks.

Filelds,Which is why, being a

Filelds,

Which is why, being a libertarian, I fully support this, as it takes the power that has been stolen from us by government since the passage of the hideous 16th Amendment and puts it back into our hands, where the founders of this country intended for it to be from day one.

By the way, I define government as force, and it matters not which party is in charge.

Build the damn fence, George!

fair tax

I'm on the fence on the fair tax.  I would support it if the bureaucrats would agree to remove their "right" to tax income.  You and I both know that if a fair tax were implemented, this "right" would not be stricken from the laws.  They would likely keep it and say, well, if we need it, we'll only use it to tax the rich, lets say $300,000 plus per year.  People seem to go for that kind of pursuasion.  Then in 20 years when even poor people are making 300,000 a year, we will be stuck with a 30% sales tax AND a 30% income tax. 

Feilds,Unless I misread Neal

Feilds,

Unless I misread Neal Boortz's and Rep. Linder's most excellent book, and I have an autographed copy that I have read twice, the IRS is automatically abolished and the federal income tax (that most all of us libertarians feel is a blatantly illegal tax) goes with them.

The outright repeal of the 16th Amendment is part of the deal. Without that, the whole thing goes down the drain.

Build the damn fence, George!

Isn't

Too bad the "Fair Tax" isn't.

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

Unsane

Congratulations on your Spurs Unsane, they deserved the title. I have a serious hatred for Tony Parker Multiple  NBA titles  and one of the hottest girlfriends on the planet...sigh.:)

Don't hate, congratulate.  :

Don't hate, congratulate.  :-) 

To make it worse for you, Eva Longoria isn't just Tony Parker's girlfriend...she's his fiancee.  :-)

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

On violence

You are forgetting that violence solves LOTS and LOTS of problems...

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

"Our constitution has

"Our constitution has been altered just enough to allow him to do whatever he wants to us dissenters."

Care to back that up with some facts...not to mention the rest of your ineffectual emotional rantings?

In the past couple of days you've made at least two references to Hitler/Nazi Germany in connection with the Bush Administration. If GWB was headed in that direction, your blog would be shut down and you'd probably be in a concentration camp somewhere.

Oh, and they'd be out confiscating guns so they could get away with less resistance.

In the mean time let's see some facts/substantiation to back up your ridiculous claims.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

what leak?

Dick Armitage was the leaker. Scooter was charge with obstructing a non-crime investigation. Perhaps that's why Pubs want him pardoned. I hope Bushie does him right.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

Where's the indictment on Arm

Where's the indictment on Armitage?

Why hasn't Dick Clark been outted by Mikie Moore for moving the Bin Ladens out of the country after 911?  Why didn't Mikie mention that in his pack-o-lies movie?

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BTW, Folks,Our newest troll c

BTW, Folks,

Our newest troll can't even post his idiot forum topic under the correct category.

Gotta love these libs.  "Bush Administration is A Disgrace to the United States" is "news".

Matthew, if you read this...would you kindly add a fourth category?

"Questions and Statements by the Opposition".   That way, Which Wing, et. al. could have their own auntie's attic place in which to address each other.  They don't even qualify for the troll category.  (You DID ask for suggestions!!!).

Gotta love these libs. &qu

Gotta love these libs. "Bush Administration is A Disgrace to the United States" is "news".

Good point, that is not news, it is common knowledge.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

"Good point, that is n

"Good point, that is not news, it is common knowledge.."

More like Communist knowledge.

Of course commies hate strong American leaders.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Trolling, WhichWing.  We cal

Trolling, WhichWing. 

We call it Bush Derangement Syndrome.

All you little DKOS robots do it.  We (conservatives) find it laughable.

Does that evolve from Clint

Does that evolve from Clinton Derangement Syndrome? You are all in bad shape if so.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

I can't see for the life of m

I can't see for the life of me how you of all people can like Clinton.  That's the guy who sent troops to Haiti for regime change, and had the United States military participate in Operations Deliberate Force and Allied Force.  Not to mention his continuation of Bush the Elder's policies and operations against Iraq (operations like Northern Watch and Southern Watch).

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.  - Vegetius

Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy

In the mean time the hearings on the dismissal of court judges around the country has revealed that Bush has his hit men dismissing judges who go against his vile behavior by prosecuting those that carry out his misguided attack on American justice. These judges are being dismissed for upholding the values of America. If they prosecute one of the republican corrupt villains they will soon find themselves dismissed by this administration. Is George Bush setting us up for a take over by his corrupt administration and taking the judges that would resist such a coup out of the way?

Apparently we don't know the difference between judges and US Attorneys.  I wonder if he realizes that under the Constitution the President can't fire judges.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

No, he doesn't realize the

No, he doesn't realize the differenc ebetween U.S. Attorneys and Judges, nor does he know Judges cannot get fired. In fact he doesn't know anything about any of the stuff he's been ranting about the past few days. It's all the same of leftist emotional whinings because Gore lost in 2000 and Kerry lost in 2004.

All emotion, and no facts.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Apparently we don't know the

Apparently we don't know the difference between judges and US Attorneys

Or that Billy Clinton fired ALL the attorneys and not just a small percentage.  But hey history and facts pesky things after all.

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

Who looks more guilty?

botg, Clinton's actions were far more suspicious than Bush's.  In light of that action, I though Bush should have cleaned out all the Clinton appointees as soon as he took office in 2001.  But he didn't, and here we are.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

ARRthese are the items consid

ARR

these are the items considered by AAR to be important enough to put on his bio at his web site, need we know more?

  • Age: 51
  • Gender: Male
  • Astrological Sign: Aries
  • Zodiac Year: Monkey
  •  
  • Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

  • I assume you were trying to

    I assume you were trying to make a point, I just don't see what it was.

    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

    Simply pointing out that as A

    Simply pointing out that as ARR decided what was important information for others to know about him, he chose to mention Aries and Monkey?  Makes me consider that ARR is lacking in the intellectual/critical thinking area.  The fact that you had to question this reveals your own lack of mental acuity.

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    And the links you include i

    And the links you include in your profile, what do they tell us about you?

    telemarketers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_PjRXV5l8

    the best of sheryl crow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAOzLQEu5Do

    strange people http://www.easier.com/view/Lifestyle/Entertainment/Celebrities/article-113167.html

    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

    uh?sense of humor perhaps?Sup

    uh?

    sense of humor perhaps?  (and a Clapton fan)

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    actually i use the space to s

    actually i use the space to store links and tend to update it now and then

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    WWSo you think Aries Monkey i

    WW

    So you think Aries Monkey is an intellect or what?

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    I don't recall asserting th

    I don't recall asserting that anything was intellectual or not, that was you. I don't see what point you were getting at. He put his sign in his profile. Does that tell you something about him? Like what month he was born in maybe?

    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

    What it tells me is that he

    What it tells me is that he doesn't know how to live his life without consulting the "Horoscope" section of his morning paper.

    Clearly not a free-thinking individual.

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

     I don't see what point you

     I don't see what point you were getting at

    Even after i posted this?

    Simply pointing out that as ARR decided what was important information for others to know about him, he chose to mention Aries and Monkey?  Makes me consider that ARR is lacking in the intellectual/critical thinking area.  The fact that you had to question this reveals your own lack of mental acuity.

    Remember this was at his website where he chose all content.

    limerick for ww

    An asshat who called himself whichwing

    Was always on NB and bitching

       He always tried to vex

       Because of bad sex

    His member has never stopped itching.

    You know me well, and your

    You know me well, and your sister promised to keep that between us.

    (Isn't this fun? Attacking each other to avoid talking about our ideas.)

    "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

    Not a half bad reply--too bad --

    Not a half bad reply--too bad --you could not have made it as funny as your other posts. BTW --my sister ranked you 116 on her piece meter.

    (Out of 2)

    Whichwing tried to match wits

    Whichwing tried to match wits

    Because misterbill gave him fits

        The thrust of his text

       Showed him still vexed

    And his answers were in the pits

    Hello Misterbill, I hop

    Hello Misterbill, I hope you are you doing well I just love the poems. Where do you get your inspiration from?

    shawn --thank you for the compliment--

    shawn --thank you for the compliment--. I attended a Christian school growing up. We had those large books of Prose and Poetry each year in highschool. It was very "sissy" to be a boy and like poetry--but -I found I loved it. We were given assignments to memorize and recite poetry. I mad efun of it in front of the guys, but I liked it a lot. One of my assignments was Gunga Din. I still remember a lot of it today, after 57 years. Blake, Keats, Yeats, Daly, Shakespeare, Frost, Longfellow, Whitman, Pound and on and on.

    I must down to the seas again,

    to the lonely sea and the sky,

    And all I ask is a good tall ship

    and a star to steer her by.

    John Masefield - Poet Laureate of England

    misterbill - Your thoughts on

    misterbill - Your thoughts on Coleridge?  (One of my favorites...)

    I for one never thought it to be "sissy" to like poetry and be a man - poetry is a b!#%h to compose, and in some cases to truly understand.  If anything I am in perpetual envy of those who have mastered the lyric phrase...

    TWELVE DOWN, FOUR TO GO...(until the SPURS' FOURTH RING!!!)

    Ahh, Poetry

    There once was a girl from Nantucket.

    Jack Kevorkian - America's Economist

    Iron Maiden's song "Ri

    Iron Maiden's song "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" got me interested in Coleridge when I was about 11 years old. I did a literary analysis paper in college on his poem of the same name. STC had an interesting life and background as well as some well known friends and collegues suchs as William Wordsworth.

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

    Spooky

    Sheesh, are we leading parallel lives or what? That same song got me hooked on Coleridge, and then, there's Rush's "Xanadu", based on Coleridge's "Kubla Khan". (Once upon a time I heard a DJ read "Kubla Khan" on the air, and then promptly followed it up with "Xanadu". Very cool indeed.)

    TWELVE DOWN, FOUR TO GO...(until the SPURS' FOURTH RING!!!)

    Unsane re:coleridge--

    Unsane re:coleridge-- as with most things in life, I do not all his poems across the board, rather I like a few MUCH better than the rest. That is because I like lyrical poems that rhyme. I do not like "poems" such as Maya Angelou writes.

    Maya, my dear

    Tho you're not here

    I'd like to tell you this

    If you can't do the rhyme

    Then that is a crime

    and from me comes a hiss!

    That out of my system, I like :

    The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Forbearance, Kubla Khan, The Pains of Sleep and the others that rhyme. Mariner and Kubla were required reading in my school.

    Now for one of the saddest poems that I read as a teen and which really affected me then and even more now----Eugene Field's :

    Little Boy Blue   by Eugene Field (1850-1895)

    The little toy dog is covered with dust,
       But sturdy and stanch he stands;
    And the little toy soldier is red with rust,
       And his musket moulds in his hands.
    Time was when the little toy dog was new,
       And the soldier was passing fair;
    And that was the time when our Little Boy Blue
       Kissed them and put them there.

    "Now, don't you go till I come," he said,
       "And don't you make any noise!"
    So, toddling off to his trundle-bed,
       He dreamt of the pretty toys;
    And, as he was dreaming, an angel song
       Awakened our Little Boy Blue---
    Oh! the years are many, the years are long,
       But the little toy friends are true!

    Ay, faithful to Little Boy Blue they stand,
       Each in the same old place---
    Awaiting the touch of a little hand,
       The smile of a little face;
    And they wonder, as waiting the long years through
       In the dust of that little chair,
    What has become of our Little Boy Blue,
       Since he kissed them and put them there.

    Little Boy Blue

    Little boy blue come blow your horn.

    The sheep's in the meadow, the cow's in the corn.

    Yeah, that was some sad crap for a 4th grader.

    Sister Mary Dyptheria used to make us memorize Eugene Field, Joyce Kilmer, and Tennyson's Song of the Brook.

    Funny it was hard to keep the verses in order, but just a couple of listens and the latest Beatles song was indelibly etched.

    Lysdexics Untie!

    The end of the age of oil is

    The end of the age of oil is at hand, thanks to KOOKS LIKE UUUUUU.

    THAT WOULD BE THE POINT, WHAT U THINKIN WHEN U FILL UP?????

    1300 IRANIAN  GAS CENTRIFUGES OPERATING 24-7, opps it's now 8,000.. umm how many pounds of uranimun per hour is that? All this for a power plant that will NEVER go online.

    botgDoes he live in Colarado?

    botg

    Does he live in Colarado?

    Can only say moved to Las Veg

    Can only say moved to Las Vegas in 01.

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    Darn!  that blows my Ward Ch

    Darn!  that blows my Ward Churchill theory.

    Back to the drawing board.

    Colorado!! geez lets hope not

    Colorado!! geez lets hope not ,we just got rid of mobius strip (left side ,left edge only)  ugg. oh well bring em on! 

    1300 IRANIAN  GAS CENTRIFUGES OPERATING 24-7, opps it's now 8,000.. umm how many pounds of uranimun per hour is that? All this for a power plant that will NEVER go online.

    I just got through reading so

    I just got through reading some of the crap ,on this trolls web site.

    Bro this one is grade a tinfiol hat dug into a bunker phyco.

    WOW!

    This one is a Loaded gun away from shooting up a goverment building. 

    I am being serious too.

    AF,Quite so.Did you see NL's

    AF,

    Quite so.

    Did you see NL's "Open Debate Challenge"?

    It should be rather amusing, if the newest KOSBOT decides to participate. 

    We shall see....

    BlondeNope did see it.  Give

    Blonde

    Nope didn't see it.  Give me a link please.

    AF,It's in the forums.....a c

    AF,

    It's in the forums.....a challenged laid down, but not yet answered.

    NL does this occasionally....if the posters here would actually comply, and not jump in on the debate, it should be classic.  That is, if the troll actually chooses to engage (I suspect not...they're as yellow as the lines on the road).

    AFSecond Topic in Off Topic D

    AF

    Second Topic in Off Topic Discussions

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    Got it Blonde and botg.This i

    Got it Blonde and botg.

    This is going to be fun to watch.

    Yep.  NL told us to keep out

    Yep. 

    NL told us to keep out....but I don't think that direction discounted a good time had by all here.  I'm looking forward to it....well, if the lib troll actually engages.

    Anyone up for a pool on the odds for that? 

    I am being serious too.AF i k

    I am being serious too.

    AF i know you are i was at the site myself, assertion after assertion

    Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

    botgHe shows some classic sig

    botg

    He shows some classic signs of paranoia and a lack responsibility for his own actions.  Everything is someone else’s fault.

    Not a good combo.  There are other things in the stuff that I read that points to obsessive compulsive behavior too.

    Very angry.   Probably quick to lash out.

    Clinton

    Botg, Clinton did not want attorneys from the old administration. Sounds reasonable. he wanted Loyal people "but unbaised people" and he kept the new crew till the end of the term. He did not get rid of anybody mid term. Bush could have fired his attorneys at the beginning his term if he so chose. The press would be harder on Bush than Clinton, but nowhere near the heat he got for the firings.

    Someone said to me the other day, that Clinton had a revolving door in his White house I remember Clinton changed this Chief of Staff a few times but other than that he kept all appointed us attorneys, the attorney general, Secetary of State. Secretary of Defence . With the exception of the Vice Presidency , those are the main positions in the administration arent't they? Every other position would be considered 2nd tier right? The current president changed his AG, now he's under pressure to fire the present one, The SOS Colin Powell was fired"yes he admitted this during an interview, i do not have the link, but i;m sure i can find it", the curent one "Condi" is doing only as so so job according to the last GOP poll.. Donald Rumsfeld The Secretary of Defence was fed to the wolves after the election was over. The US attorney firings, no matter you cut it, was improper. Even most Republicans in the senate and house agree with that.

    So I say there is a big difference . Monica Goodling tesitied only because she did not want to go jail and was given immunity. She even admitted she did not hire an applicant because she did not like their politcal views which is against the law or as Monica put it crossed the line "but she did not mean to" Any ways let Bush keep Gonzales, it is not worth using tax payers money for less than two years of neener neener.

    Clinton and GW are very similar. How are they similar? Well they both tried to reach over to the other isle. Clinton with the ending welfare after a certain amount of time and Bush with recend Global Warming 360, the immigration program and sacrificing his Secretary of Defense. They are also very similar that the people that hate them really hate them. The feelings are not just work related but they are damn personal.

    I always wondered, not about the ones that disagreed with Clintons policies, but the ones that hate him with a passion. Was it so bad under Clinton? I mean, I remember very good times. The American Dollar was strong. We did not really have a domestic threat, the ecomony was going well, The highest homeownership in history "It is higher now under Bush but homes were actually affordable then". Yes we paid higher taxes under Clinton and Yes RJ, He sold technology to China "I admit it". We had to go through that whole Monica Fiasco but was he really as bad as most Clinton haters say?

    Last, I was one of the people with BDS, I could not stand George Bush and could not wait to see him fail. I no longer hate him because I know I could not walk in his shoes, he is under constant pressure day and night. He has do deal with all this legal crap, a decision to parden Scooter or not, war protesters at his conference in Germany. Don't forget we are talking about a former alchoholic, the fact that he has not drowned his sorrows with a rum and coke takes major character. I know I would need it. I no longer hate him but I pity him"not in a condecenting way" I truly do. I usually do not agree with Rush Limbaugh, but just like he said he other day. He is questioning the patriotism of anyone oppossed to the immigration bill. Has turned his back on all the people that supported him through all his tough times. It does not seem the right or left like him very much right now. Mr Bush is truly done and lame duck for the remainder of his presidency.

    "The American dollar was

    "The American dollar was strong"...and that is great for tourism (our tourists heading overseas), but bad for U.S. exports.  The funny thing is that one of the problems hurting EADS (Airbus's parent company) is the fact that while they make their money in euros and conduct all their business in euros, they STILL have to quote their prices in U.S. dollars.  It is STILL the world's reserve currency, and indeed is used by other nations as their national currency (like Ecuador).  I don't see a bunch of nations rushing to the euro right about now.

    Why would that be?  Because regardless of where the dollar's position of strength is, we are still the #1 market for countless goods and services around the world.  The euro is stronger, and the euro zone has more people than the United States, yet the euro is not used as a reserve currency, because they are not the massive market the United States is (in large part due to the constant interference of the dead hand of the State).  Ditto the British pound.  For a brief period in my life - back in the mid 1980s, when the dollar was also strong against foreign currencies, the pound was actually worth LESS than the dollar.  But for the far reaching majority of my three decades of life on this earth, the pound has been stronger.  Yet it isn't a reserve currency anymore, in large part because their 60 million people do not represent nearly the market the United States does.

    Really, you are going to have to get over this "But the dollar was strong!" thing. 

    "We did not really have a domestic threat" - you would be dead wrong about that.  We have always had a domestic threat since 4 July 1776.  (Besides, there was concern about instability in Russia and the CIS threatening us, and peace in Europe being shattered by the Balkan conflicts.  I also can NEVER forgive the signing of the "Agreed Framework" with North Korea in 1994, or passing American's condolences to the slaves - er - people of North Korea for the loss of Kim Il-Sung.)  There will always be people in this world who simply don't like us, no matter how nice we are or how isolationist we become.  People in the 1920s and 1930s probably thought the same thing as well, and got a nice rude awakening on a Sunday morning in December 1941...

    You know, I don't think Clinton was as bad as some say.  He gets much credit for things he had no control over, like the dot-com driven boom (and bust) of the 1990s that was entirely out of his hands.  Thank heavens he didn't get to nationalize 14-15% of the economy as he badly wanted, or else you'd really be crying about the deficit/debt.  (Clinton, early on, projected deficits in his budget throughout his presidency, but this changed when the Republican Congress [when NOT old, fat, and lazy] forced him to scale back spending, and both benefitted from increased tax revenues from the dot-com bubble.)  That being said, that "whole Monica fiasco" was about him getting in trouble for what you or I would easily go to the slam for in a heartbeat: perjury.  Forget the whole damn affair for a second.  He was the freakin' PRESIDENT. I have no doubt that he could have kept testimony on that subject a state secret, but he didn't want to do that. 

    I actually like one thing Clinton did: he got NAFTA passed (I can see the protectionist/conspiratorial conservatives/populists getting pissed at me already for saying that).  Free trade is a good thing for the economies of all three countries.  So what if manufacturing jobs go to Mexico?  The Europeans, like Airbus and BMW, among many others, are outsourcing HERE (and that is made even more attractive by the weaker dollar, by the way.)

    For me, the most irritating thing about him was that he was spineless.  Yes, Carter's policies sucked, but at least he had the spine to stick to them, so you know where he stood from week to week and month to month.  I can at least respect the types of Pelosi and Reid for being moonbats and staying that way.  It makes them easier to deal with.  Clinton was not that way at all; and he was always in campaign mode.  As a friend of mine once said: "In the 1992 election, one candidate never began his campaign, and one has never stopped!" 

    In the end, I just think he will be remembered as a mediocre president.   

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    Unsane

    Hello Unsane, congratulations on yourSpurs being in the finals, it will interesting to see if they can shut down Lebron.

    Yes,
    the US dollar is still the standard bearer is world currency. However
    the dollar is in a freefall right now. I do not see how a Canadian
    dollar that was worth 60 cents a few years ago and is worth 94 now a
    good thing. You said the other day, the US dollar should not be too
    high so other countries can buy or goods at affordable prices. Well we
    still have 180 billion dollar deficit with China, even Americans buy
    more foreign cars than domestic"GM is still thearetically #1 right
    now", Not many countries want to buy our beef. Seems the only thing
    they do want to buy from us is our weapons.

    Also back to our
    conversation the other day. Thx for your recomendations on certain
    books pertaining to economics, so I can have a better understanding. I
    will check them out next time i'm in the library and I will buy them on
    Amazon if like them. I realize you have read many books and you
    educated in the ecomomics department but something you said the other
    day, I just could not understand, I was hoping you could explain it to
    me.

    You said we can fund tboth wars at the same time with
    federal tax dollars. Do you mean we could or we are? I am just an
    average schmoe when it comes to ecomonic understanding, but I figure a
    round figure for our total population is 3,000,000,000 From the tax
    payers amongst our population we receive 791 billion dollars a year.
    That is a lot of money, but I do not see how we can fund both wars, pay
    social security, pay our politicians, finance military hospitals, fund
    medicare without borrowing money from other countries. If you could
    explain it to me in plain layman terms, I would appreciate it:)

    One
    last thing, Canada in your opinion is a country going nowhere. Yes a I
    agree they are very fortunate to have us beside them so they do not
    have to spend alot of money for national defense, but they are our
    largest trading partner, they are rich in natural resources, their
    economy is booming, they help supply our electricity, and sell us the
    same if not more oil than Saudi Arabia and their dollar might be worth
    more than the greenback before the year is out. I do not see how they
    are going nowhere. Thx Unsane

    The value of one currency to

    The value of one currency to another doesn't mean one damn thing, as I have observed over three decades.  When the Deutsch Mark was cheap, my family bought many German items while we lived in Germany, and when it fell from 3.45 per dollar to 3.00 per dollar, in one day, what did we do?  Why, spend less on German goods.  Who got hurt by the fall of the currency then? 

    The Canadians are more frightened that you are by the rise of the loonie.  This is precisely because we are their largest export market.  If the loonie is worth more than the dollar by the end of the year, they begin to lose competitive advantages with is, and thus their economy is harmed.  For instance, pay close attention to some television programs, movies and commercials sometime.  Many are shot in Toronto and Vancouver, among other Canadian cities, precisely because of the cost advantages of a cheap loonie.  If the loonie reaches parity (C$1 = $1) and/or goes above that, the advantage of shooting up there goes bye-bye, and the market for that equipment and labor dries up. 

    Did you know, for instance, that countries that rely heavily on exports, such as Korea and Japan, spend much overtime trying to suppress their currency's value in relation to the dollar just so they can retain their competitive edge in exports? 

    Indeed, MANY countries want to buy our beef - literally.  Not to mention, take a look at Boeing sometime, which is kicking Airbus's ass right now.  China, India, and other nations all over the world are blowing big bucks on the 777 and 787.  That's just for starters.  The other day I got some great insight on the oil industry, and found that the world is constantly descending upon Houston for advice on how to drill for oil, and equipment.  People in Houston do not work gratis. 

    Canada is going nowhere because they are, and never will be, spoken of in the same breath as China, India, Japan, Korea, the Southeast Asian nations, or...the United States.  Also, virtually no one cares what Canada thinks about anything, while the world's eyes are fixed on New York and Washington.  They long ago traded dynamicism for perpetual comfort, as many EU nations have, and now they are reaping the harvest. 

    Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest. 

    The only way the Spurs lose i

    The only way the Spurs lose is if a LOT of other Cavs not named LeBron James catch fire.  I love LeBron James, think he's a great player, and has a great run ahead of him, and he shut up a LOT of people by strapping the team on his back and carrying them through Detroit - but if he is the only thing going for them against the Spurs, they will have a short and exciting life. 

    Onto foreign borrowing:

    I cannot see how you are so terrified of foreigners buying T-bills, T-notes and T-bonds.  So?  The reason they do it is because the United States is a stable, safe bet.  (Who would YOU rather buy a bond from - Argentina, Nigeria, Thailand, Mexico, or the United States?  That's just a few examples I can think of, of nations with occasional or chronic ailments of either currency, government, or economy - or all three.)  Incidentally, nothing is stopping you - or other institutional investors or individuals - from buying bonds of other foreign governments. 

    At most, foreign investors hold roughly 1/3 of the debt.  Meaning we control the other 2/3.  (May I suggest buying savings bonds if foreign debt ownership so deeply concerns you?  I own some of my own, as a matter of fact.)  I couldn't begin to tell you how much foreign debt we own, but there is an amount out there that is doubtless owned by investors. 

    One thing that I have constantly bitched about - and have even written my Representatives and Senators about - is getting a Balanced Budget Amendment passed in order to force the Congress/President to act like adults, no matter what party they are from.  Did you know that, no matter who owns the debt, that 15% of our budget goes to pay the interest on it?  Imagine what we could do with that money (like reduce taxes still further and thus expand the economy even more!).  That's the number that bothers me - not foreign ownership of debt.

    Hence, spending on such things like the Bridge to Nowhere (that I keep referencing as I once lived in the region it will be built at eventually) to me is unconscionable and inexcusable.  Additionally, I cannot believe that you, as well as every adult of voting age under 40, are not demanding privatized Social Security.  I'd much rather divert the money I pay in Soc. Sec. taxes to my IRA - even a small portion - because I know that in roughly three decades, it will have a much greater rate of return than anything the government will give me (and also free the government of a greater burden; back when the Social Security Act was passed, it took 40 workers to pay for 1 retiree; now it takes 4 or 3, or thereabouts, and is slated to fall still further; the price of greater industrialization and the falling birthrates that come with it). 

    I'd much rather see Medicare privatized as well.  The government does not need to be in the business of providing health care to anyone but its own employees.  (I was not happy with the prescription drug giveaway to seniors, by the way...but they are the ones that vote, not the young who, ironically enough, will foot the bill.) 

    May this clear a few more things up...

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    unsane

    Thx for the explanations unsane. You know your economics unsane but as as Bush once said, "it sounds like fuzzy math" Population is 300 million. 791 billion are collected from taxes. If GOPers had it their way, even less tax would be taken.

    Even if they did privatize medicare. I do not see how we can pay for war and social security, financial aid for students, war on drugs, etc. I dont know what the rules are but are the countries we owe money to allowed to raise the interest rates on us? Not being patronizing, i really want to know.

    I'm sure Canada is happy not being mentioned in the same breath as the USA, India and China. More people from India and China immigrate to Canada not the USA. People in the world overall like Canada and even though you disagree with their social programs, they have a pretty good standard of living and they are happy. Their ecomomy is growing every year and places like Toronto and Vancouver home prices "not sure if this is good" are now on par with San Francisco and New York. Canada is the type of country that minds their own business and does not interfere unless for humanitarian purposes, ie Afghanistan and the first desert storm. IMO this is a country going somewhere.