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Can we talk Thompson
May 30, 2007 - 10:13 ET by Cool ArrowCan Thompson kick the Conservative wannabes out of the race?
Wannabe? Isn't that a sect of Islam?
Gore lied. Nobody fried
"Talking Thompson"
May 30, 2007 - 10:17 ET by MightyMouth"Talking Thompson"
Speaking of Thompson, here is Thompson on the Issues...
If you want to encourage Fred to run go here...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Answering Michael Moore was
May 30, 2007 - 13:34 ET by sarcasmoAnswering Michael Moore was a lot easier, I'm sure, but some of us would like ol' Fred, in that folksy way of his, to tell us whether he really IS a "Justice Thomas principled federalist," on an issue where it "hurts" (politicians, not taxpayers, obviously!) or whether he just has the good electoral/recent-tradition sense to merely talk like one... Coherent, intelligent answers from others on the issue welcome, even if they'll probably be few in number; and the usual flames moderated either abusive or funny depending on the talent of the flamer! ;)
JMR
Sarc, did you read the ensu
May 30, 2007 - 13:46 ET by MightyMouthSarc, did you read the ensuing debate by posters after that link? There seemed to be several resoned responses (none by Thompson I'm sure). The differences/realities between the world of the 1700's and the 20th and 21st centuries seemed the most interesting.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Well, none of them were rea
May 30, 2007 - 14:04 ET by sarcasmoWell, none of them were really all that great on one side, IMO. What I need, from "the pro-big-government remains involved in a failed drugwar" side, is an answer that begins with something like: "Justice Thomas was wrong about the principles of the founders and the plain language of the Constitution in his dissent on Raisch because..." with the pro-big-government, anti states' rights side then filling in a nice, principled, coherent "because" which actually addresses the points Justice Thomas made in his dissent, since I have yet to see it. Thanks for noticing, though, that some seem to think the US Constitution is an "evolving" document when it's politically-convenient for it to evolve towards more & bigger government. (And please remember, one of Fred's er....Ron-Paul-style 99 to 1 vote losses in the US Senate was on a Federal DUI law...)
JMR
But the question for Thomps
May 30, 2007 - 15:00 ET by MightyMouthBut the question for Thompson was: "Does this eloquent defense of federalism apply to the drug war, too?"
Who says it should? Why would a specific enforcement policy of the Executive branch need to be explicilty spelled out in the original constitution 200 years before a real need? Congress can easily pass laws that cover such things as illegal drug enforcemnt. If it is indeed unconstitional why hasn't it been over turned by the SCOTUS?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You're trying to dodge the
May 30, 2007 - 16:11 ET by sarcasmoYou're trying to dodge the question by saying "who says it should" IMO. I could just as easily say "who says it shouldn't," and ask you why -- if you're right -- we have an 18th & 21st amendment, but let's stick with the original question. I hope this colliquy serves to press Mr. Thompson & others to actually think about the wise words of Justice Thomas in that dissent... Principles matter to some of us voters these days, especially when they politically 'hurt.' Until it's answered by the candidate, I don't think the question is going away, because the Constitution is what it was and says what it said until we change it. Don't like the 9th and 10th? Let's repeal 'em, or debate it, rather than trying to ignore them, because it's not working with intellectual power like Justice Thomas and various others behind my side. Conservatives, if you wish to win, need to rediscover the small government principles and try to fill the shoes of the man who brought you your success, and in large part the pioneer was -- even though he was never elected -- Barry Goldwater, IMO. I think we all know how Barry would have answered any question like Radley's, but I have high hopes the process of answering the question will simply make people like Sen. Thompson (whose vote against the 99 was absolutely-correct, IMO) think about the proper roles of federal vs state governments in our system. Taxpayers like me are tired of paying high taxes for wasteful spending on other peoples' massive, and largely-failed, social experiments.
JMR
I don't think you can equat
May 30, 2007 - 17:19 ET by MightyMouthI don't think you can equate the "war on drugs" with the 18th amendment on very simple (although not constitutional) grounds, namely: "Popular Support". The 21st Amendment came about because of the rise of crime (not popular) and the desire for recreational drinking (very popular).
Now look at the "war on drugs", which also has crime (not popular, with arguably better enforcement) and the desire for recreational drugs (not as popular with perfectly legal alcohol around). And yes I know alcohol is a drug, but apparantly safer and less addictive then other prohibited drugs(or at least perceived so).
So my conclusion is "is" that legalized drugs suffer from a simple demand side problem. There are more people willing to live with the consequences of legalized alcohol than with the consequences of other legalized drugs. So apparantly Sarcasmo, you have an education problem WRT the masses.
Good luck with that! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I don't have any education
May 31, 2007 - 04:35 ET by sarcasmoI don't have any education problem, as I don't care if others use drugs or don't -- they own their bodies, not me and not big government. Actually, you have a Constitution-problem, and you will continue to have that problem until you are finally able to phrase an answer in the way I said...Again, it starts with these words: "Justice Thomas is wrong about the Constitution and Federalism in his dissent because...." I have yet to see that answer here, because I suspect you're incapable of giving it -- intellectually, it's not easy to take Justice Thomas on when he's writing about the Constitution, that's part of his greatness IMO. That's fine, as long as we're all honest about the fact. :) Like it or not, the Constitution has nothing to do with popularity, as everyone-to-1 votes by both Thompson & Paul have made clear...Besides, you might not like your own "popularity" argument all that much if it's applied to issues besides the tax and spend drugwar -- think "illegal immigration" just for starters... The Constitution is, or was supposed to be, the Supreme Law of the Land. Some of us would like it to be that way again.
JMR
"I have yet to see tha
May 31, 2007 - 09:39 ET by MightyMouth"I have yet to see that answer here, because I suspect you're incapable of giving it"
Translation: "Cloaking device permanently engaged"
(as far as I am concerned)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Sarc has a good point MM. I
May 31, 2007 - 10:05 ET by BinxlySarc has a good point MM. I agree that drugs can and do ruin good people. There should be education out there on WHY people resort to drugs, most as a means of escape. That being said, the drug war is a constant uphill battle and with family being in drug enforcement at one point, there is mention that much time and money is wasted on the cracking down on low-class drugs like marijuana. I find it ludicrous especially seeing how most stoners are probably the LEAST we as a nation have to worry about. Plus, Sarc is right, when this nation was created, I feel the real message to get across is 'you are free to do what you wish, so long as the adverse effects only effect you.'
That's all fine, but Sarc a
May 31, 2007 - 10:15 ET by MightyMouthThat's all fine, but Sarc and others don't have a workable solution to the issue of drugs. I mean really what's the alternative? Make everything legal? And if it's just weed, what about those who want to use cocaine? Your argument would have to be applied across the board, and it's logical conclusion would be to allow ANYTHING as long as the constitution does not specifically prohibit it. Do you actually think that would work?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Did you say Libertarian?
May 31, 2007 - 10:21 ET by Cool ArrowAnd talk about a job market in flux..
Gore lied. Nobody fried
sorry RO, it's early.... hu
May 31, 2007 - 10:25 ET by MightyMouthsorry RO, it's early.... huh??
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Not just "make everyth
May 31, 2007 - 10:26 ET by sarcasmoNot just "make everything legal," that's not the end. What we'd see is trial lawyers suddenly getting involved as legal drugs naturally get weaker & safer in the free marketplace, and taxes suddenly getting paid by an activity people are going to do anyway that's suddenly not costing taxpayers money anymore. And the logical argument of "magnificent generalities" like the 9th and 10th is exactly-that: if it's not prohibited it's allowed, so long as it hurts nobody else. No victim, no crime. Simple. The "workable" solution was what the founders told us to do, not the various prohibitions later, lesser politicians tried.
JMR
weaker and softer drugs"
May 31, 2007 - 10:30 ET by Cool ArrowLike computers and cars have gotten slower, huh?
Gore lied. Nobody fried
Why make such strange analo
May 31, 2007 - 10:44 ET by sarcasmoWhy make such strange analogies when reality works so well?? (Oh yeah, it doesn't work so-well for your side!) Think of any legal recreational drug in your lifetime, whether it's alcohol, tobacco, or birth control pills. Which one, in the free marketplace, has gotten more-dangerous as cocaine did in slowly transforming into "crack"? None! We instead have (ugh!) no and low alcohol "beer" (I'm not saying this is a good thing, taste-wise, but it fits my example) filtered cigs and pills that contain orders of magnitude less hormone. Why? Why didn't these recreational substances get stronger & more-dangerous? (And by the way, cars -- despite greater performance -- are safer today, too!)
JMR
Back to my original point.
May 31, 2007 - 10:50 ET by MightyMouthBack to my original point. You don't have enough popular support to legalize the whaky tobacky, so keep bitching about it until you do have the support. Just don't complain here when your "cloaking device" is constantly on about this subject.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
So that's why all those sta
May 31, 2007 - 11:02 ET by sarcasmoSo that's why all those states have passed a wide variety of medical pot laws! Not enough popular support! Thanks for enlightening me!!
JMR -- see why I needed a nick like 'sarcasmo'?!? See????!!!
B.S! You don't give a rip a
May 31, 2007 - 11:13 ET by MightyMouthB.S! You don't give a rip about "Medical pot laws". You just want to use without being harassed. Pretty lame, even for you.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
BS yourself, you don't know
May 31, 2007 - 15:23 ET by sarcasmoBS yourself, you don't know crap about me, and everyone knows it. Whenever you people lose or re-lose this debate, you resort to this accusation as a substitute for coherent argument. I win.
JMR
"I win"ROFL! Righ
May 31, 2007 - 15:36 ET by MightyMouth"I win"
ROFL! Right... I don't know a thing about you (except you declare yourself the winner everytime you have this debate!). BTW "you people" have marginialized yourselves in the political process because of the fringe issues you continue to cling to.
AND if you "guys" keep winning this debate, how come nothing ever changes in your favor?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You mean, like the state la
May 31, 2007 - 15:50 ET by sarcasmoYou mean, like the state laws I just nailed you on, sarcasmo-style, where the issue's winning over & over? Latest one looks like it might be Rhode Island with a veto-proof majority, but I haven't been watching the news on that lately and my info's more than a week old. Look, everyone, at this whole thread, and see if you agree with me that degenerating into a BS accusation is losing. If you don't, say why. Let's see what the others say.
JMR
Medical use of Marajawanna?
May 31, 2007 - 15:54 ET by MightyMouthMedical use of Marajawanna? That's how you "nailed" me? How does that apply to the free use of pot and your constitutional right to use it? I have said the legalization of pot does not have wide spread public support. THAT'S A FACT JACK!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
You're full of it, again. A
June 1, 2007 - 05:31 ET by sarcasmoYou're full of it, again. As I said, medical pot laws are popular enough to be passing enough to cause conservatives who aren't hypocrites, like Justice Thomas, to have federalism issues. Rather than addressing those issues, you've made BS allegations about me, because you know, intellectually, that Justice Thomas and I are kicking your ass in this argument, as usual, and that maybe the brain needs to get a bit mightier in your case. When state laws pass, they have widespread support, like it or not that's how I nailed you above by pointing out their passage. Even when the feds act unconstitutionally and spend even more of my taxes on your beloved failed policy, the voters keep passin' those laws and wanting their taxes to be spent on real criminals, instead of peaceful, harmless people with a medical use for cannabis. I repeat, because it makes you so mad: "I win."
JMR
Pretty sneaky:1) First You
June 1, 2007 - 09:45 ET by MightyMouthPretty sneaky:
1) First You change the debate from "legalizing pot" to "medical use" for pot.
2) You declare yourself the winner again (a day latter, hoping I won't notice).
You still have not "nailed" me on widespread support for legalized pot. It's a completly different question than "medical use" and you are too pigheaded to admit it!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Apparantly what you are des
May 31, 2007 - 10:42 ET by MightyMouthApparantly what you are describing didn't work and the "Drug War" was needed to address the problem starting in 1880. I am not saying it has been run properly but your solution sounds like wishful thinking.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
From your own link, it looks
May 31, 2007 - 10:49 ET by sarcasmoFrom your own link, it looks like the drug war hasn't "worked" all that well. In fact, it's obviously a failure. What do you suggest would do better to solve the problem "properly"?? Even more of the taxpayers' money, perhaps??
JMR
"Even more of the taxp
May 31, 2007 - 10:55 ET by MightyMouth"Even more of the taxpayers' money, perhaps??"
No my solution would be for parents to teach their children to say no to drugs, (which would include alcohol), basically, dry up the demand. Since that's not going to happen it seems you and I both have the same dilemma, as neither of our solutions are likey to occur.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I advocate (and then I cons
May 31, 2007 - 10:59 ET by sarcasmoI advocate (and then I consistently vote-for) exactly what you say you want, individual responsibility instead of tax funded socialism. You advocate what you just said, but I suspect you tend to vote-for more of my taxes going down this endless rathole of a failed drugwar despite decades of evidence that it's not-working. See the difference??
JMR
I vote for more than just t
May 31, 2007 - 11:05 ET by MightyMouthI vote for more than just the abolition of the war on drugs. You are free to consistently throw your vote away and assist liberal aholes into the white house and congress. See the difference??
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Thanks. My principles make
May 31, 2007 - 10:33 ET by sarcasmoThanks. My principles make me "against" all prohibitions, but you've pointed out the least-rational (and emotionally the holiest among "drug warriors") part of the tax and spend drugwar -- cannabis. The unprincipled, politically-obvious solution follows: A strategic retreat in that one area, a la Republicans like Dana Rohrabacker(sp?) of California, would allow, with less spending overall, more law enforcement resources to go after other drugs we all seem to agree are more-dangerous anyway. Not that government policies should ever make sense, or that politicians might want to admit that they're wrong once in a while and God was always right, or anything...
JMR
RO-- wannabes--
May 30, 2007 - 10:20 ET by misterbillRO-- wannabes--There are queen bees and drones--all productive. A wannabe is one that wants to sit by the entrance to the hive and tries to get nectar for nothing.
If they are rejected, then they become welfarebees.
I hope he can...
May 30, 2007 - 10:20 ET by OldSailor88I think he can beat all of the wannabes, but what I am concerned about is whether or not he can beat Mrs. Clinton. Here's an AP story that should scare the crap out of you.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070530/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_economy_8
You say you want a Socialist President? She's definitely out of the closet now
OldSailor...Her Socialist vie
May 30, 2007 - 10:31 ET by Clear thinkerOldSailor...
Her Socialist views is exactly why Fred can beat her. Traditional American values will win over her nanny state!
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She wants the government to r
May 30, 2007 - 22:56 ET by MikeBShe wants the government to raise your kids, because too many are being taught capitalism at home. She wants to nationalize health care. She wants to nationalize the oil industry. She obviously believes "to each according to his needs, from each according to his ability." Unfortunately, once this system is in place, it is the government who decides what you need, and also decided what your abilities are, and what job you will have. Worked just peachy keen in the Soviet Union, didn't it?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
My guess is the other candida
May 30, 2007 - 10:22 ET by Clear thinkerMy guess is the other candidates are now VERY worried, as they should be. I for one will not vote for a wanna-be conservative or a rino.
Fred's the man!
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Riled,Looks like we are abo
May 30, 2007 - 10:22 ET by Dave RRiled,
Looks like we are about to find out.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-Neal Boortz
dave r-- dave me lad---
May 30, 2007 - 11:22 ET by misterbilldave r-- dave me lad---I am a Fred man all the way.. Newt may be as smart as Fred and I feel bad about swinging away from him--but--Fred is the man!!!!!
Thompson's stance
May 30, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Cool ArrowIt's scary how much I agree with this guy's thinking. I knew it was a probability, but I feel so much better after reading Drudge this morning.
Gore lied. Nobody fried
Mccain's boy is running aga
May 30, 2007 - 10:23 ET by Daniel BakerMccain's boy is running against him. I wonder how he feels about that. I fear Thompsons running will make Rudy our nominee. Remember Mccain -Thompson-Feingold
Daniel...You forget that Fred
May 30, 2007 - 10:29 ET by Clear thinkerDaniel...
You forget that Fred has denounced his own decision to sign on with that bill. He now wishes he had never signed that stupid bill.
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You're telling me he is
May 30, 2007 - 10:46 ET by Daniel BakerYou're telling me he is a Flip-Flopper. He also seems a perfect media target for Cowboy Diplomacy the sequel.
Daniel...He openly admits he
May 30, 2007 - 10:54 ET by Clear thinkerDaniel...
He openly admits he screwed up. Not like other politicians that run from their decisions.
I feel much safer with a cowboy leading the country than some commie lib!
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Daniel,At least Fred had th
May 30, 2007 - 10:56 ET by Dave RDaniel,
At least Fred had the stones to admit he was had. McCain is still operating under the delusion that that hideous bill was actually good for this country.
Everybody has a right to change their minds. I don't think this puts Fred in the same league as John Kerry, the reigning champ of flip-floppery.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-Neal Boortz
Flip flopper?
May 30, 2007 - 10:57 ET by Cool ArrowAdmitting a mistake is different from Hillary saying her husband lied to her about WMD.
Gore lied. Nobody fried
Now we have a real conservati
May 30, 2007 - 10:36 ET by vrwc13Now we have a real conservative to consider who will register above the 10% mark.
Let's see, a real patriot chooses July 4th, algore will pick...April 1st? Nope missed it this year... Earth Day? Nope missed that too...here's a few sugesstions...
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. - Al Gore
Maybe Al be waiting until S
May 30, 2007 - 10:55 ET by Hero SquadMaybe Al be waiting until September 19, so that his announcement speech be something full of hearty ribald fare, ye matey. Arrgh!
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
RRRR...me matey, one of the &
May 30, 2007 - 11:04 ET by vrwc13RRRR...me matey, one of the "planks" in his platform could be making large carbon footprint culprits "walk the plank!"
btw...watch what you are going to start here now...aaauuuurrrrggggh!
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. - Al Gore
Arrr
May 30, 2007 - 11:08 ET by Cool ArrowTalk like a Pirate day. Shiver me timbers. And what's that landlubber Al Grrr doin' on that dead man's chest. Ohhhh matey, that's not natural
Gore lied. Nobody fried
Riled One - I think you mean
May 30, 2007 - 11:23 ET by RackieRiled One - I think you mean the Wasabe sect.
Wasabe Wahabbi Wannabe
May 30, 2007 - 11:27 ET by Cool ArrowWhat's the dif?
Gore lied. Nobody fried
No, that's the hot green stuf
May 30, 2007 - 11:27 ET by vrwc13No, that's the hot green stuff with sushi. I hate it when they hide it under the salmon pieces.
Try Wahhabi.
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. - Al Gore
vrwc13 - Watusi?
May 30, 2007 - 12:22 ET by Rackievrwc13 - Watusi?
Watusi is Watuget
May 30, 2007 - 12:33 ET by Cool ArrowAnd that's all I have to say about that.
Gore lied. Nobody fried
Hillary vs FDT
May 30, 2007 - 13:07 ET by NortoBeliever
I will suggest she drops out leaving a minority canydate so the left can call us racists for 8 years. They have to have their dog to beat and I think she lacks he courage to get beat.
Dr. Laura
May 30, 2007 - 10:17 ET by shawn228Anyone heard about this story? Someone told me about it a few days ago
Dr. Laura' asks for privacy while son is probed over lurid MySpace page
Laura Schlessinger asks for privacy as the Army investigates the postings attributed to Deryk.
By Robert W. Welkos, Times Staff Writer
May 25, 2007
Radio talk-show host Laura Schlessinger is appealing to news media
outlets to respect her son's privacy amid an Army investigation into
whether he is behind a lurid personal Web page that featured cartoon
depictions of rape, murder, torture and child molestation.The posting on MySpace.com drew the Army's attention after the Salt
Lake City Tribune reported this month that the Web page was credited to
and included photos of Deryk, the 21-year-old son of the outspoken
radio personality known to millions as "Dr. Laura." She can be heard
locally on KFI-AM (640).
According to the Tribune, the Web page, which has since been taken
down, included a photograph of a bound and blindfolded detainee,
accounts of illicit drug use and a blog entry headlined by a series of
obscenities and racial epithets.
Laura Schlessinger's publicist issued a statement Thursday stating that
the Army "is investigating who is the actual author of the MySpace
website." Army spokesmen in Afghanistan, where Deryk reportedly is
stationed, could not immediately be reached for comment.
Celebrated by many for her traditionalist views — and criticized by
others for the same — the talk-show host is perhaps best known for her
trademark chirp, "I'm my kid's mom!" and her advice to mothers to stay
at home with their young children. Deryk's tour of duty is well known
to listeners: Many callers seeking out Dr. Laura's advice begin by
thanking her for her son's service.
The radio host has taken a break from writing her column in the Santa
Barbara News-Press but not from her other work. "She just needed a
break," her spokesman, Mike Paul, wrote in an e-mail.
Matthew D. LaPlante, the Tribune reporter who broke the story about the
Army investigation, had drawn a rebuke from Schlessinger for an earlier
article in which he quoted her as saying Army wives should stop
"whining."
She posted a reply on her website stating that her position was taken
out of context. As a "military mom," she added, she whines to her
husband about how scared she is for her son, but "I never whine to my
son when he is able to call between missions" for fear of distracting
him from his life-and-death duties.
The newspaper's reader advocate said the Tribune was flooded with calls and e-mails complaining about the article.
LaPlante said he stood by the accuracy of his quotes.
The article about the MySpace page said one blog entry read:
"Yes!!! I LOVE MY JOB, it takes everything reckless and deviant and
heathenistic and just overall bad about me and hyper focuses these
traits into my job of running around this horrid place doing nasty
things to people that deserve it … and some that don't."
The website's author indicates he is stationed in Kandahar,
Afghanistan, where, he writes, "godless crazy people like me" have
become "a generation of apathetic killers."
There are a lot of people out
May 30, 2007 - 10:26 ET by Clear thinkerThere are a lot of people out there that hate Dr. Laura, so I will not be surprised to find out that someone wanting to discredit her is doing this just to make her life miserable. Unfortunately, we all know there are people out there that would stoop this low.
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CT, They can't really take
May 30, 2007 - 10:34 ET by MightyMouthCT,
They can't really take Laura head on with issues so they stoop, as you say, low to attacking Laura by proxy. The truth is, a parent is not responsible for what their children do when they begin to grow up. I taught both my kids by example not to smoke, what did they do when they got old enough? Made their own decision to smoke! Is that my fault? I think not.
I think you will also find, that some kids that are the most "protected" and "sheltered", are the ones that go the most "crazy" when they get out in the real world. You can't protect em forever.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MM...You don't need to tell m
May 30, 2007 - 10:40 ET by Clear thinkerMM...
You don't need to tell me about children that dissapoint. I'm raising my granddaughter, nuff said?
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Clear Not to worry
May 30, 2007 - 10:42 ET by Cool ArrowBrilliance skips a generation.
Gore lied. Nobody fried
Riled one...I'm praying it do
May 30, 2007 - 10:46 ET by Clear thinkerRiled one...
I'm praying it does!
Actually, my granddaughter is an amazing young lady. I won't go on about how proud she makes me, but I will say she seems to have taken the foundation we have given her and embraced it.
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I hear ya CT, the best you
May 30, 2007 - 10:48 ET by MightyMouthI hear ya CT, the best you can do, is the best you can do. Sometimes it's hard to accept the fact that the child you bounced on your knee will some day have free will of their own. If you believe you did things right (realizing no parent is perfect) then you must also never blame yourself for things that go wrong in their life. Again, free will is the issue. I'm sure you realize that, just saying...
Now "nuff said" on my part too:-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
shawn,Do you have any proof
May 30, 2007 - 10:28 ET by Dave Rshawn,
Do you have any proof that Dr. Laura (who I don't like all that much, anyway) had anything to do with that My Space page?
If we are going to start holding parents responsible for the (alledged @ this point) actions of their adult children, thare are a whole bunch of hypocritical libs out there who have a lot to answer for.
This republic will not survive the continued neglect of its people.-Neal Boortz
DaveR
May 30, 2007 - 10:39 ET by shawn228I don't believe Dr. Laura had anything to do with it. I believe what her son did was disgusting.
shawn...How do you know he di
May 30, 2007 - 10:41 ET by Clear thinkershawn...
How do you know he did it?
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Clear Thinker
May 30, 2007 - 10:46 ET by shawn228The matter is still under investigation. Like I said I only heard about this a few days ago. The MSM seems to think he has done this, I am leaning toward "he did it" I do not know for sure yet.
Why do you think he did it, a
May 30, 2007 - 11:02 ET by Dan The Man 2Why do you think he did it, and how discusting is it? And furthermore why is it important?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Well, it's being reported a
May 30, 2007 - 11:47 ET by balboaWell, it's being reported as his, so until it's proved otherwise...
Why is it important? Really isn't, but would be quite ironic.
So people are automatically
May 30, 2007 - 12:18 ET by HypocriteHaterSo people are automatically guilty just because the MSM says so, and before the indivdual has a chance to defend themselves and/or prove their innocense? And it doesn't concern you that the MSM may have an agenda in hoping that he's guilty before ANY investigation has been completed yet, because they have an axe to grind with his mother? Wow, you're scaring me with the powers you're giving the MSM to try and convict people in the press.
I'm not saying he's guilty
May 30, 2007 - 12:51 ET by balboaI'm not saying he's guilty of anything, but if the media reports that it's his website, I'll tend to believe them until they report otherwise.
Isn't that armor a nuisance, balboa?
May 30, 2007 - 13:02 ET by RJIsn't that armor a nuisance, balboa? After all the time you've logged on this site, and you STILL automatically believe the media?
Lots and lots of tin foil armor is the only possibility.....
RJ
May 30, 2007 - 13:34 ET by balboaYes, well, SOMEONE has to trust the media.
Look, I'm not saying that this is set in stone. I'm more than willing to change my tune if something different is found out.
Just because the MSM seems to
May 30, 2007 - 11:46 ET by HypocriteHaterJust because the MSM seems to think he has done this, doesn't make it true (ie: Duke Lacrosse rape case - need I say more?)
Hypo, it kinda does
May 30, 2007 - 11:49 ET by Cool ArrowPerception is reality.
The medium is the message.
Don't confuse me with facts. My mind is already made up.
Gore lied. Nobody fried
LOL shawn228 and bal babble together
May 30, 2007 - 14:14 ET by SportPoliticsLOL shawn228 and bal babble together
[According to the Tribune, the Web page, which has since been taken down, included a photograph of a bound and blindfolded detainee, accounts of illicit drug use and a blog entry headlined by a series of obscenities and racial epithets.]
Ahh, the news posts blindedfolded and bound detainee pics all they can. So much for that being wrong, but it can sound nasty to idiots like shawn and bal.
Accounts of illicit drug use may be Taliban remnants and their captured opium bongs, so much for that.
Then we have racial epithets as an accusation, but for all we know it was local insurgents spewing at the troops, since the article doesn't specifiy.
I guess the worst thing there for libs is the website says he runs around killing the enemy who deserve it, and sometimes there are unwarranted casualties.
Oh well, another big blow their horn lib lamer foobar of stupidity. LOL
shawn is certain it's disgusting, and has never seen the website. LOLOLOL
Correct. Do we blame Lillian
May 30, 2007 - 10:59 ET by Hero SquadCorrect. Do we blame Lillian Carter for the Jimmy Carter presidency?
*****
"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
No but I do blame the Clint
May 30, 2007 - 11:09 ET by MightyMouthNo, but I do blame the Clinton presidency on Gabriel Ross Perot and his wife Luly May Ray! :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I Second that Mighty...big ti
May 30, 2007 - 16:00 ET by bigtimerI Second that Mighty...big time!
The news from Kommandant Clin
May 30, 2007 - 10:27 ET by GothampcThe news from Kommandant Clinton:
"There is no greater force for economic growth than free markets. But markets work best with rules that promote our values, protect our workers and give all people a chance to succeed," she said. "Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government policies."
Who defines what "fairness" is? Why does everything have to be "fair"? What exactly is "fair"?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070530/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_economy_8
What is fair"
May 30, 2007 - 10:34 ET by Cool ArrowAccording to Mrs. Clinton fair is that which further enslaves the poor.
Gimme one reason poverty should be comfortable.
Hillary and the rest of the C
May 30, 2007 - 23:05 ET by MikeBHillary and the rest of the Commucrats cannot discern that equality of opportunity does not mean equality of outcome.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
"fair" is Hilary
May 30, 2007 - 11:59 ET by lnthomp"fair" is Hilary Rodham in charge and everyone else doing exactly what she says.
Lee T.
U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington
The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain
COMMRADE CLINTON
May 30, 2007 - 13:12 ET by NortoBeliever
HC also said that "prosperity and responsibility should be shared!" Is that right out of Marx or what. She also said in the same speech that our "own your own" society needs to be REPLACED! HELLO IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE?
Unbelievable and the msm never utters a peep.
I'm sure that Hillary and Bil
May 30, 2007 - 14:21 ET by Prester JohnI'm sure that Hillary and Bill, as well as the Breck Girl, the Drunken one, the French-speaking one et al are all more than willing to share their prosperity with the rest of us.
I would love to hear a MSM type ask all our rich, compassionate, Democratic friends (to include Hollywood of course) exactly how much they are plannign on donating to the United States Treasury to make it happen.
Enviros' newest attempt to slow domestic oil production
May 30, 2007 - 10:30 ET by RJ"Conservationists hope an eventual listing of the yellow-billed loon will curb petroleum development in the 23-million acre reserve that covers much of Alaska's western North Slope."
It's the enviros' latest attempt to slow domestic oil production. They claim to be worried about the nesting of the yellow-billed loon, a bird that has a wide-spread population in Russia, Canada, Alaska and the west coast of the US.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/tech/2007/may/29/052900470.html