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If you're a jazz fan, The Bad

If you're a jazz fan, The Bad Plus has a new "record" out, with jazz covers of Rush's "Tom Sawyer" and "Everybody Wants to Rule The World" by Tears for Fears (and Bowie's "Life on Mars.")

Jazz Fan

Also, if you're a Jazz fan, you will soon be disappointed because the Golden State Warriors are going to come back and win the series.

maybe baby

only if they play every game at home! And what, you're in a huirry to face Phoenix?

Phoenix

IMO the Suns are the most talented out of all the teams left. I have been going for them since the season began. I live in the Bay Area so I have to jump on the Warriors band wagon as well.

The NBA Salad Bar

Sounds to me like someone here is making frequent trips to the NBA Salad Bar.

You MAY have forgotten about the Spurs...

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

LOL insane

You and I spoke all the way back in February Unsane. You said that it was highly unlikey the Suns would still be in it in June and it would all come down to San Antonio and Dallas. Well we all know what happenned to Dallas huh? As for the Spurs, Phoenix is the more talented team individually but the Spurs are better as a team "for game 1 anyway". I love the Suns because of Steve Nash, he is my favorite player. I can't help but to like the Warriors as well because they are local and they have not made the playoffs in 13 years.

nash

Steve really showed something, while Tony Parker was slithering around like a soccer player, Steve hovered over him to see if he was O.K., all the while his nose was opening like a crevasse! Who was hurt worse? Nash wanted back in so bad, I thought I was watching 300!

Well, before you pop your cha

Well, before you pop your champagne corks, celebrating your championship...well, whose?  The Suns or the Warriors?...we MIGHT want to play the ENTIRE series, just in case the Suns really don't deserve to go much further...

At least I am a backer of one basketball team...always have, always will be...

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

non chmpagne

Champagne? No, HOEGARRDEN beer! Tastes great and Al Sharpton hates the name.

Unsane

Never really got into basketball as a child any really started watching it about ten yrs ago. The GS Warriors were so terrible, it was gut wretching going for them. I spend lots of time in Vancouver as a kid so that is why I like Steve Nash although he is from Victoria.

You are right. The series is tied 1-1. The Suns will be facing a hostile San Antonio crowd. Lots of basketball left to be played.

SHAWN?

So I take it this is not Shawn Kemp?:)

madpole

No its Shawn Marion. You grew up in the projects huh? 8 mile? Have no idea where that is, I just saw that in a eminem movie:)

Qualifier

I guess you could say 5 and a half mile., but if you could play ball, all the hoods were open except Harper Woods, around where the riots started 

racial barriers

Growing up a White Boy in da hood taught me SO much about life, and at a time when my skin color meant so much, I have to say, sports was a great equalizer 

da pistons

Did you see what Da Bulls did to Miami? Have you seen the Pistons dismantle the Bulls? GO DETROIT!!!

Coming back from 25 poi

Coming back from 25 points down is some amazing feat, they will be a hard team to beat.

pistonian

ON THE ROAD!

AK 47

Yes mad pole. The Pistons are on fire and they along with the Spurs are the only teams in the playoffs that can say they went all the way in recent yrs. You can count Chicago if we go back 10 yrs.

Anyways, I did not know who Barren Davis was before these playoffs. Now he is the best player in the playoffs along with Tim Duncan and Steve Nash. Did anyone catch out this dunk he did no AK 47? He took him to skool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYpwjB0IzoU

Double post sorry

Double post sorry

basketball jones

Individual match-ups is what it comes down to, along with injuries. That is why I don't gamble on sports. I grew up in the projects of Detroit, thus the bias.

If Conservatives get stuck wi

If Conservatives get stuck with Rudy, Romney or McCain in the 2008 elections, most will have only themselves to blame. There is a true Conservative running, but because so many "Conservatives" are no better than the Liberals (with having unrighteous agendas), the man is not getting any where near the recognition.

His name is ---- Tom Tancredo

Look at his stands on topics:

Immigration There is no doubt that America is facing an illegal immigration crisis. Currently, there are at least 12 million illegal aliens living in America. I am absolutely opposed to amnesty. In addition to rewarding those who broke our laws, amnesties simply do not solve the problem of illegal immigration. The only realistic solution to the problem of illegal immigration is a strategy of attrition, which seeks to reduce the flow of the illegal alien population over time by cutting off the incentives for coming to and staying in America - most importantly by eliminating the jobs magnet. America must also reexamine its legal immigration policies. Since 1990, that number has been roughly one million yearly - and that doesn't count illegal aliens. America should reduce legal immigration to 250,000 people a year, which will allow the newcomers to assimilate.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Defense
In the wake of the September 11th attacks and the ensuing war on terrorism, it has become clear that the United States is facing a new security threat. The war America is already engaged in will not be fought like the wars of the past. After witnessing the tragic terrorist attacks against the nation, it is now time to coordinate the efforts of federal, state, and local agencies to provide better homeland defense. Tomorrow's attacker is more likely to board a commercial airliner bound for the U.S. with a tourist or student visa - or he may simply walk across our porous southern or northern border carrying a device in his backpack. These issues must be addressed.

We are, I believe, in a clash of civilizations. That clash is fought on many fronts-some military, some diplomatic, and still others, ideological. On the military front we have won two significant victories. One was in Afghanistan where we destroyed the Taliban and Al Qaeda's command and control network. The second victory was in Iraq where, by toppling the Sunni dictatorship of Saddam Hussein and creating the embryonic infrastructure of a democracy, we set in a motion a chain of events that could lead to a major strategic advantage for us and for the West. This advantage emanates from the forced political equilibrium that can be brought to the region and Iraq itself now that Saddam has been dispatched. The deep schisms in Islam will force countries in the region to impose this equilibrium. Our continued presence in Iraq as the referee in a civil war inhibits this development.

We must take whatever steps are necessary to assure our ability to respond quickly to events in the area as the process of creating this new balance of power goes on. But the quicker that process starts, the better.

In his speech to the nation on the war in Iraq, the President said he was establishing a "November benchmark" for the Iraqis to complete the task of controlling all provinces of the country. This should be more than a benchmark. I believe it should be used as the time frame for our disengagement from Iraq.

We can maintain a military presence in the area to act as a quick response force with a mission to destroy Al Qaeda elements while simultaneously aiding the new balance of power in the region to develop.

I am not alone in my thoughts about what to do in Iraq. Former UN Ambassador John Bolton, in a recent interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN, concurred.

"I think it's clear that the United States has met the obligation that it incurred when it overthrew Saddam Hussein. And that's to try and provide some conditions of security for the Iraqis to determine what kind of country or what kind of society they want in the future. We have met that obligation. That obligation does not need to be extended. And this is really the last chance for them. After that, we need to pursue very narrowly what our strategic interest is. And that's making sure that terrorism doesn't find root in that country."---Former UN Ambassador John Bolton

At the end of the Constitutional Convention in 1787, a lady asked Benjamin Franklin, "What have you given us?" He replied, "A Republic, if you can keep it." We have purchased an oppportunity for Iraq and the entire Middle East with the blood and treasure of America. It was a noble endavor for which all who served can be immensely proud. It is now time to see if the Iraqis can take advantage of the opportunity and "keep" what has been so dearly purchased.

Education
Having served as a public school teacher in Colorado and as the U.S. Secretary of Education's Regional Representative, I have earned real world knowledge of how to best educate America's children. Control over the education of our children must be in the hands of the parents. I believe in the ability of parents to choose the educational path best suited for their children. I support tax credits for families who choose to allow their children to attend any other institution whether it be a private, parochial, or home school. I oppose increased federal involvement in education, and broke ranks with my party to oppose the No Child Left Behind Act for that reason.

Social Security
It is important that we acknowledge some of the shortcomings of Social Security as it currently exists.  The current system simply cannot cope with the upcoming demographic changes in our country.  The ratio of workers to retirees will drop close to 2-to-1 within a generation.  To provide for tomorrow’s retirees, we must become a nation of owners and savers. 

Unfortunately, the existing Social Security program does not save or invest for future generations of seniors.  Without action to strengthen Social Security, the only options available to the government beginning in 2016 will be massive tax increases, deep benefit cuts for seniors, borrowing money on an unprecedented scale, massive cuts in other government programs -- and likely all of the above. 

Simply ignoring the impending crisis is irresponsible. Younger workers must be empowered to invest a portion of their payroll taxes into private accounts, which will allow us to gradually move away from the current unsustainable defined benefit approach of Social Security to a defined contribution approach -- similar to 401k programs and the Thrift Savings Plan available to federal employees.  Until we provide the option of personal accounts to younger workers, we will never be able to afford Americans a personal stake in their own retirement.

TaxesI support tax relief, because it helps families save more for retirement, education, and medical care. In addition to decreasing the overall amount of taxes Americans pay, I also support efforts to scrap the current cumbersome income tax system and start fresh with either a national sales tax or a flat tax.

The income tax system, as currently constituted, is a source of frustration for nearly everyone in America -- with the possible exception of the accountants we pay to help us file each year. I think most Americans, regardless of their political party affiliation or
personal wealth can agree on one thing: The income tax system is in desperate need of reform. The system is inherently unfair, complex, and burdensome. It discourages investment, savings, and the accumulation of capital by taxing the three excessively. The income tax code has become so unruly and confiscatory that the average American family worked until almost May last year just to pay the tax bill required by the federal, state and local governments.

Aside from these direct costs, the cost of complying with the current cumbersome tax code exceeds some $200 billion each year. And remember, once Americans have written their checks to Uncle Sam they will continue paying government taxes every time they fly on an airplane, make a phone call, fill up their gas tank, buy an imported item or even sit down to have a cold beer. These federal excise taxes cost Americans hundreds or even thousands of additional dollars each year -- and that figure continues to rise.

No one disagrees that the government must acquire some form of revenue to carry out its basic functions. The question is, however, how heavy a tax burden should the American people be forced to bear. The tax initiatives that the Republican-controlled Congress approved in recent years reducing tax rates across-the-board, wiping out all federal taxes on dividends, eliminating the death tax, and boosting the child tax were a good start -- but the overall system needs to undergo fundamental change.

One fundamental improvement over the current progressive and punitive tax code is a flat tax system where every taxpayer, regardless of their level of income, pays the same flat rate of taxation on their income. Implementing a lower, flat tax would encourage investment by ending the double taxation of investment income, eliminating loopholes and curbing exemptions that the wealthy use to lower their tax burdens. It would also create equity in the tax code, as well as greatly reducing the time and cost associated with compliance.

Another approach would be to replace the income tax with a national sales tax. Perhaps the most attractive feature of this approach is the elimination of the IRS. By eliminating the requirement for individuals to file tax forms every April, we could eliminate the need for this invasive and often abusive agency. A sales tax would also unleash the full potential of the American economy by repealing business and individual income taxes, payroll taxes, self-employment taxes, capital gains taxes, estate taxes, and gift taxes. In their place, a single, nominal tax would be levied on all new goods and services at the
final point of purchase for consumption -- the same way cities and states collect sales taxes.

A national based sales tax would have many of the same benefits as a flat tax; namely increased compliance, increased savings and investments, decreased cost to the federal government, and increased economic growth.

I would support either of these long overdue tax reforms to our nightmarish tax code.

AbortionAs a devout Christian, father, and grandfather, I am a strong believer in the right to life for the unborn child. For years, activist judges have undermined life. As president, I would stop this by appointing strict constructionists as judges, reining in the power of the judiciary, and supporting constitutional amendments that respect life.

BudgetGovernment is spending dangerously beyond its means.  For years, Congresses and  Presidents of both parties have continued to spend more money than they take in.  The largest component of this spending-spree is entitlement spending.   

Simply put, federal entitlement programs are too big and cost far too much.  The American taxpayer cannot be asked to continue funding numerous entitlement programs or be all things for all people.  Finally, we cannot ask the American people to pay higher taxes to finance this spending spree.  We must remember that federal government is in debt because it spends too much, not because it taxes people too little.   

There two types of government spending—discretionary and mandatory.  Discretionary spending, which accounts for roughly one-third of all Federal spending, includes money for things like the Army, FBI, the Coast Guard and highway projects.  Congress explicitly determines how much to spend (or not spend) on these programs on an annual basis. 

Mandatory spending, on the other hand, accounts for some two-thirds of all government spending.  This kind of spending is authorized by permanent laws.  It includes ‘entitlements’—things like Social Security, Medicare, and Food Stamps—programs through which individuals receive benefits solely because of their age, income or other criteria.  Spending levels in these areas are dictated by the number of people who sign up for these benefits, rather than by Congress.  In order to reduce this kind of spending, Congress must make fundamental changes to the underlying programs – something that few political leaders in Washington have the stomach for.   

The only way we can rein in government spending is to take on entitlement spending.  And the only way to take on entitlement spending is to fundamentally reform the crumbling and unsustainable institutions of the welfare state.  Until Americans demand changes in mandatory spending, we will simply be treating the symptom of deficits rather than addressing the underlying problem of excessive spending.  Americans can no longer continue to borrow money from countries like China and allow government spending to run on autopilot.  We cannot sit idly by; waiting for the impending fiscal train wreck that we all know is just down the tracks.   

We must make fundamental reforms to our creaky 20th century welfare state if we are going to ensure a prosperous 21st century for America. 

Trade Falling U.S. taxes on imported products and slowly crumbling foreign barriers to U.S. commerce have provided a number of benefits for Americans and American businesses.  American consumers have unprecedented choices when it comes to everything from cars and computers to cell phones and coffee.

  U.S. manufacturing and agricultural exports have grown strongly over the last decade.  Between 1994 and 2004, for example, exports in U.S. manufacturing and agriculture have increased 65 percent and 38 percent, respectively.  And United States exports of high technology products have grown by a whopping 67 percent during the past 10 years.

  Unfortunately however, it isn’t all good news.  Many recent trade agreements have done far more than just phase out high U.S. taxes on imports and open new markets for U.S. businesses – a lot more.  In fact, the primary “import” American trade negotiators seem concerned with these days is foreign workers.

  Take the recently approved Central American Free Trade Agreement, for example.  Buried among its nearly 1,000 pages, the agreement contains an expansive definition of “cross-border trade in services.”  This definition would effectively give people from Central American nations a de facto right to work in the United States .  In fact, CAFTA is more than a just trade agreement about sugar and bananas; it is a thinly disguised immigration accord.

  Little effort is even made by the U.S. trade officials to hide their efforts.  One article of the agreement reads, “Cross-border trade in services or cross-border supply of services means the supply of a service…by a national of a party in the territory of another party.”  CAFTA also stipulates that member nations take care to ensure that local and national measures “relating to qualification requirements and procedures, technical standards and licensing requirements do not constitute unnecessary barriers to trade in services,” and the U.S. is required to guarantee that our domestic laws are, “not in themselves a restriction on the supply of the service.” 

  U.S. immigration limits, visa requirements – or even licensing requirements and zoning rules – could be considered ‘unnecessary barriers to trade’ that act as ‘restrictions on the supply of a service.’   Congress would then be forced to change our immigration laws, or face international trade sanctions.

If CAFTA and its successors were really just about trade, the agreements would be little more than a few pages long, setting a schedule for opening markets and phasing out unfair taxes on goods.  But they aren’t.  In reality, these agreements have become vehicles to expand a growing body of international law that threatens to supersede our own national sovereignty.

Agriculture As Barry Goldwater correctly pointed out nearly a half-century ago, “no power over agriculture was given to any branch of the national government.” Like any other industry, farm production would be “best controlled by the natural operation of the free market.”

Federal farm policy has unfortunately moved in just the opposite direction since Barry made those statements.

From the 1930’s until the mid-1990’s, the government generally accounted for an average of just over 10% of net farm income. Only once in this period did government account for over 30% of net farm income. Yet in recent years, the share of net farm income provided by the government has risen to some four times that amount.

Worse still, nearly half of all commodity payments flow to large farming operations with average household incomes of $135,000 – and the bulk of federal farm benefits are concentrated among a very few farmers. In 2001, for example, nearly three-quarters of all farm subsidies were paid out to just 10 percent of recipients.

Americans are often told that farm programs are designed as a ‘safety net’ for family farms – but the numbers tell a different story. For example, according to the Heritage Foundation in 2001, the list of recipients of federal farm payments included a number of very wealthy ‘hobby farmers'. David Rockefeller, the former chairman of Chase Manhattan and grandson of oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller received nearly $150,000, former professional basketball star Scottie Pippen received more than $25,000 not to farm land he owns in Arkansas, and media tycoon Ted Turner received nearly $13,000. Even former Enron CEO and multi-millionaire Kenneth Lay received more than $6,000.

The list also included several Fortune 500 corporations, including oil giant Chevron and John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance which received $80,000 and $134,000, respectively, in 2001.

Like Barry Goldwater, I want to see a prosperous American agriculture industry, one that benefits all taxpayers – farmer and non-farmer alike. That means we must move away from the current centrally planned and controlled agricultural sector of today toward a more free enterprise oriented farm economy of tomorrow.

Stem Cell Research Medical research to find cures for debilitating diseases like Alzheimer’s and diabetes is critically important.  We should do everything in our power to seek new treatments and drugs to help cure these diseases.  We cannot, however, compel American taxpayers to pay for research that intentionally destroys human life, or authorizes the farming or cloning of human embryos. 

Embryonic stem cell research is not the only option for stem cell research.  Other promising alternatives which do not destroy human life – such as cord blood stem cell research – have shown much promise without the moral and ethical questions that surround embryonic stem cell research.

Gay Marriage I support a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.  

Unfortunately, every state in the union is now just one court ruling from being force-fed a new definition of marriage.  If Congress does not act, people like San Francisco’s mayor and a few judges in Massachusetts will be able to dictate to the entire country what does and does not constitute marriage.   

To impose gay marriage on Americans through judicial fiat flies in the face of both traditional American values and the time-honored tenets of American federalism.  

Health Care The way to address America’s heath care problems is not through bigger government programs, litigation, regulation, or additional government spending.  Indeed, these things have contributed and continue to contribute to the rising cost of health care.

Another contributing factor is illegal immigration.  While illegal immigration isn’t generally the first thing Americans think of when they think about health care, it has a significant impact on the cost, availability and quality of health care available to Americans.   

The millions of uninsured illegal aliens in this country invariably get sick or injured.  When they do, they seek what ends up being very expensive treatment in hospital emergency rooms – treatment federal law requires health care personnel to provide.  The problem has become so acute that Congress recently allocated $1 billion in taxpayer funds to defray the costs incurred by hospitals treating illegal aliens.  This is another good reason for our government to take the problem of illegal immigration seriously. 

I believe in market based solutions to health care problems.  One solution is the use of Association Health Plans or AHP’s.  AHP’s would assist greatly in improving access to affordable health care – without creating a new big government scheme.   

AHPs would allow small business owners to band together through pre-existing professional associations to purchase health insurance at reduced rates.  It will help to reduce the number of uninsured Americans by giving small business the same accessibility, affordability, and choice in the health care marketplace that Fortune 500 companies and unions now enjoy.  Experts estimate that up to 8.5 million uninsured small business workers could gain coverage and small business owners would save up to 25 percent on health insurance enabling more businesses to provide coverage. 

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Now, if you do not vote for Tom Tancredo in the primaries, DON'T complain when you have only liberals to vote for in 2008.

Debra... 

Any thoughts?

conservative

MAN, am I ever ready for a true conservative. Ever since Bush's inaugaral where his spending list rivalled Bubba's. It's been a long time!I imagine it will feel like a good hot shower, to wash away the filth of the liberals, to rid the fleas of the media, to hear the TRUTH as mainstream. Victory in America Day!!!!!! 

:o)

:o)

His stance on trade alone is

His stance on trade alone is a disqualifier.  No protectionists need apply for my vote.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Unsane, Could you expound on

Unsane,

Could you expound on that post?

Debra...

Tancredo seems paralyzed with

Tancredo seems paralyzed with fear over the concept of free trade.  You may want to go over that section again. 

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Unsane,Tom Tancredo has a ver

Unsane,

Tom Tancredo has a very good grasp on CAFTA and is not afraid to speak and tell the truth about it. We do not want to have trade sanctions, because of not allowing foreigners to come here and work, at will.

Debra...

Tancredo

Debra what do you think of Tancredos chances are for winning the Presidency? Guiliani and Mccain have the abililty to win blue states, would you say that would be same with Tancredo? Tancredos stances on issues are pretty much the norm with conservatives, but to independents and moderates IMO might seem a little extreme. Without independents and moderates, would he have enough votes to win the electorate?

Shawn,My personal conviction

Shawn,

My personal conviction is that in the primaries support your favorite.  Any candidate (well maybe not McGovern) who wins the primary of one of the two major parties should have a chance at the general.  The platform worked out in the convention takes input from the support given to the candidates running in the primary.

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

ShawnForgot to ask, were you

Shawn

Forgot to ask, were you overcome by the unacceptable pro US bias in Spidey 3?

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

Yeah, that scene where he sta

Yeah, that scene where he stands in front of the U.S. flag for all of two seconds must be totally unacceptable to those on the Left (as indicated in a NB blog some days ago)...

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)

Botg

IMO the best strategy is to elect someone with the best chance of winning. I would rather Obama or Edwards get the nomination than Hillary. If Hillary gets the nomination, everything wil come back....Juanita Broderick, whitewater, Paula Jones, the soiled dress on so and so on.

I will also use Karl Rove as another example. I am no big fan, but I would love to have him on my team. He knows how to win

I am a independent voter and lean left slightly but if came down to Rudy and Hillary, I would vote for Rudy. If Tancredo got the nomination, I would vote for Hillary. Agree with my vote or not, there are many other independents and moderates that think exactly the same way.

PS

Damed Pro American Marvel comics. You might even think Spidy was American.

Obama and Edwards are lightweights

Obama and Edwards are lightweights who don't have the gravitas to be President.  I could care less about "the dress", etc, because it's Hillary's well disguised arrogance and far left beliefs that should be brought front and center.

I'm not a Rove fan and I'm not sure that having him would be so great.  His day may have passed.

I'm not a Rudy fan at all.  Don't like him, don't trust him, but I'd vote for him against any of the other three.  Sitting out because a candidate doesn't fit all of my criteria, like Debra says she will, is stupid and narrow minded in the extreme.

Karl Rove

I'm surprised at your comment about Karl Rove RJ. The GOP might have lost the last election, but Rove has to take lots of credit for both Bushs Presidential elections and the congress elections before the last.

Karl Rove is a political genius, he has just been distracted with the pressure from the Democratic congress wanting to investigate him.

Shawn, Dick Morris was the architect

Why suprise, Shawn?   Your comment shows that you make the same mistake made by many, even most, on the left.  Never assume that conservatives or Republicans walk in lock-step. 

"Political genius?"   No.  Dick Morris was the architect of Clinton's win, just as Rove was the architect of Bush's win.   That doesn't make either one of them a political genius.  Rather, both had pretty good ideas at the right time.

Beyond that, my dislike for Rove centers around his focus on electing and re-electing Bush without taking into consideration the rest of the Republican Party.  I understand that was his job, but I believe he and Bush have narrow mindedly left the Republican Party swinging in the wind.

, my dislike for Rove c

, my dislike for Rove centers around his focus on electing and re-electing Bush without taking into consideration the rest of the Republican Party. I understand that was his job, but I believe he and Bush have narrow mindedly left the Republican Party swinging in the wind.

That is something we both agree on:)

Shawn,I would rather Hillary

Shawn,

I would rather Hillary over Obama, any day. Obama is a closet Muslim, who attends a homosexual fake church that calls itself "Christian." The man is dangerous. I still say he is the anti-Christ. I think he is going to lose in the primaries to Hillary and run off to the UN.

I would not mind Edwards. I mean, it is not as if we have never had an idiot in the White House before. I would just want to know that someone was watching that briefcase, just in case.

Debra...

Polls

Debra I know how you and many people on this board feel about polls but IMO, polls are pretty accurate. When Kerry and Bush went head to head, the polls showed them in a virtual tie and it all came down to Ohio right?. When Dole went against Clinton, the polls said Clinton would win and he did. My point is when there is a poll, unless the candidates are in a dead heat, most of the time they can tell who will win a election

That being said, the polls show Obama beating both Guiliani and Mccain by a larger # than Hillary. Do you believe Tancredo can get more votes than the GOP frontrunners?

S,early polls can be very dec

S,

early polls can be very deceiving.  They can be easily manipulated via the way the ??s are framed, sampling bias etc etc etc.

I agree that a poll done correctly can be both valid and reliable, however many 'polls' are done only to support a pre-determined position.  

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

Guiliani

In Guiliani wins the Primarys, I bet his support for a womans right to choose will work for him and not against him.

The only way conservatives wi

The only way conservatives will back him in any number is if he can convince them he'll make conservative SCOTUS nominations.  Even then, my inclination is to not trust him on any conservative issues.  

RJ

That is how he win the Liberal vote. If he wins the partys nomination. Liberals do not believe he will be nominating a Roberts or Alito.

Not the liberal vote, shawn

Not the liberal vote, shawn. They're too fired up for leftist programs.  He'll maybe attract so-called moderates.   Oh, did I say I don't trust him or like him?    ;^>

RJ

I say he has a good chance to get the liberal vote. I mean except for San Francisco, New York has go to be the biggest Liberal city around isn't it? Rudy owned that city.

I mean a hard core liberal would never vote for a Brownback or Tancredo. They even said in the first Republican debate that they would be overjoyed to overrule Roe V Wade. To a liberal that is scary. I mean think about it, even one more conservative voted to the Supreme court and Roe V Wade would be toast.

There are many others that are very frightend about Roe V Wade being overturned, but since Guilliani is pro choice Liberals are not afraid to vote for him.

Shawn

You prove my point, shawn. 

In order to get the nomination, RG will have to convince conservatives that he will appoint conservatives to the SCOTUS.   Because he's so non-conservative on other issues, that will take a very hard-sell job.  Zap!  Doing so will contaminate him for liberals, and few, if any, will be voting for him.   

Oh, and did I say I don't trust or like him very much?    ;^>

Giuliani followup:

Followup:

Talking to Chris Wallace today, Giuliani said that he would consider nominating a critic of abortion rights if the person had a strong overall record.

"If I thought that on 20 other issues they would be terrific, I might be able to, sure,'' Giuliani said.  "I don't consider it a litmus test. If you don't consider it a litmus test, you don't consider it a litmus test either way.''

So, there you have it.   If strong anti-abortion judges passed "on 20 other issues" first, Giuliani  "might" be able to consider them as a nominee. 

As it happens, that's not my first or even second priority for a POTUS, (immigration and the war take those spots) but it pretty clearly tells everyone where he stands.    BTW, I haven't heard any candidates talk about what they would do for the Republican Party or the conservative movement.  Has anyone else?

One of the drawbacks of an e

One of the drawbacks of an early campaign season is how unreliable polls are at this stage.  Lots of people aren't paying attention and many things could happen in the next 18 months.

Polls

Right, which is exactly my point. Polls are important now, because they can tell you how the general public feels about you, how they feel about your stances on things and what you need to improve on. No matter how you cut it polls are important and any politician that says they do not follow polls is a liar.

exactly, dahliatravers.   

exactly, dahliatravers.     :o)

Tancredo

Maybe, Tancredo will  win if his opponents  keep ondoing this

Yes I know it is from the msm, but it is kind of funny.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18630174/

LAKE GENEVA, Wis. - Note to Sen. Sam Brownback: When in Packerland, don’t diss Brett Favre.

The Kansas Republican drew boos and groans from the audience at the state Republican Party convention Friday evening when he used a football analogy to talk about the need to rebuild the family.

“This is fundamental blocking and tackling,” he said. “This is your line in football. If you don’t have a line, how many passes can Peyton Manning complete? Greatest quarterback, maybe, in NFL history.”

Oops.

Realizing what he had said, Brownback slumped at the podium and put his head in his hands as the crowd expressed its displeasure.

“That’s really bad,” he said. “That will go down in history. I apologize.”

His apology brought a smattering of applause and laughter. He tried to recover, saying former Packer Bart Starr may be the greatest of all time, but the crowd was still restless.

“Let’s take Favre then,” Brownback said. “The Packers are great. I’m sorry. How many passes does he complete without a line?”

“All of them!” more than one person yelled from the back.

“I’m not sure how I recover from this,” Brownback said. “My point is we’ve got to rebuild the family. I’ll get off this.”

He recovered to finish his speech, which also touched on Iraq, abortion and his run for the presidency. Another presidential candidate, but one who knows how to cater to a Wisconsin crowd, was scheduled to address the convention on Saturday.

After all, the Packers won the Super Bowl in 1996 when Tommy Thompson was governor. And he often famously worked into his speeches a plug for Packer fans all over cheesehead land: “Wisconsin, where eagles soar, Harleys roar and Packers score.”

Shawn, if the GOP backs Tancr

Shawn, if the GOP backs Tancredo, I believe Tancredo will win in 2008.

Shawn, I disagree with your s

Shawn, I disagree with your statement "the best strategy is to elect someone with the best chance of winning." We have done that before and paid for it. The Conservatives need to get off thier behinds and VOTE THEIR VALUES. It was done before, in 1982, and we enjoyed 8 years of GREAT Republican leadership.

I don't care if Rudy can take NJ (an extremely blue state). Yes, he will be tough on terrorism, but he is the definition of RINO.

I am tired of voting against someone or voting for a candidate that I feel will be the lessor of two evils.

No RINOs in '08 - Vote for a true conservative!

Shawn,If the Republican Party

Shawn,

If the Republican Party backed Tom Tancredo, he would win in 2008, there is no doubt in my mind. Likewise, there is no doubt in my mind that if Guiliani, McCain, or Romney run, each of them would lose in 2008.

Guiliani, McCain and Romney, are politically, laughable. They make Hillary look smart. Heck, they make Bill look smart!

Debra...

make Hillary look smart.Deb H

make Hillary look smart.

Deb Hil is intellegent, IMO warped but very very crafty and under-handed, a danger

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

You have a good point there,

You have a good point there, botg. I should have just said, "Bill."

 :o)

The CNS listings to the side

The CNS listings to the side show that Illinois just passed a bill outlawing manufacture/sale of high capacity magazines for firearms. What that short article didn't mention was the promise of two Illinois manufacturers to leave the state, taking roughly 300 jobs with them.

A separate article about our governor even made the statement "on one of his rare trips to Springfield...." with Springfield being the capital, AND the home of the Governor's Mansion. Mr. Elite Liberal decided he's going to keep calling the Chicago area his home. sheesh.

(vent over now... thanks)

Please make sure your train of thought carries freight.

I have mentioned before that

I have mentioned before that the Law & Order shows - especially the original - have included lots of characters that are Iraq vets, usually as murderers or other miscreants.  Last night, they upped it again.

This episode had not one but two Iraq vets.  One had been discharged with a personality disorder (so the army wouldn't have to pay his medical bills for PTSD), and thus was living on the streets, eating out of garbage pails, talking to himself.  He was murdered.  His murderer?

Another Iraq vet.  This one had a brain injury that caused violent episodes that somehow got him a dishonorable discharge, he was in a substandard hospital wing (supposedly a takeoff of the Bethesda situation).  They released him telling him he would have to take medication forever, admitting they "might" have given him a sendoff prescription if he hadn't had a dishonorable discharge.  Then - as if that weren't enough - he ended up in one of those groups where they send kids around the country to sell magazines, but treat them terribly - taking all their money, beating them up or whatever.  So, this guy didn't have enough money or the ability to see a doctor in any of these areas (I guess ERs don't exist, right?) to get his meds.  Thus, all because of the military, he beat two homeless guys (one the other vet) to death.

The VA steps in to make sure that the jury isn't able to get any explanation for the poor vet's medical situation, particularly the hospital where he was kept.  To be fair, L&O did have one character say that the hospital's bad shape didn't cause this guy's problem, but you had to listen carefully to get that.  Poor Jack - and the defense - aren't allowed to show anything about the hospital anywhere.  Bad Fed Govt strikes again!

Anyway, because of this, Jack has to go off on his own during trial to show the horrors and have a wonderful diatribe about how - if we send our children (again, ignoring the volunteer nature of our army) to an optional action, we should at least provide medical care!!  The doctor breaks down about how we just didn't expect this overwhelming number of injuries!  No one planned on it! 

All in all, the show managed to make snide insinuations and outright comments, all the while showing yet more of our vets as insane, violent, homeless, killers and victims.  Quite a tour de force.

I saw that filthy leftist propaganda on L&O

I saw that filthy leftist propaganda on L&O last night....at least most of it.   I turned it off when it became apparent that it wasn't just a few passing shots at the military, but was going to be a full-throated diatribe of lies.

As with most propaganda, they took aberations and made them seem the norm.   They called our military "children."   They made it seem as if our "children" were being callously being used for fodder, to be tossed away after they had been used up.   Of course, if that were really the case, we wouldn't have such a high re-enlistment rate.

The truly despicable, disgusting characters in that L&O episode are the anti-American leftist liars who wrote and produced that filth.

And now for the lighter side

And now for the lighter side of life! I linked this in the caption pic at this site, but will also link it here.
V the K’s Caption This is a very conservative caption site that has me guffawing every morning at my computer. Most funny sites I click usually bring a smile to my face, but this one has me making unworldly noises early in the morning while everyone is trying to sleep. I cannot remember where I got the link, I think it was someone here at NB, so I want to thank whoever I got it from. Its a hoot!

"A woman drove me to drink, and I hadn't even the courtesy to thank her."
WC Fields

Funny site, USA. I just c

Funny site, USA. I just checked it out, and I was just smililng until I hit the line "I'd rather jog home from a vasectomy....." and I cracked up completely! LMAO!!

Happy Mother's Day

I just wanted to jump in here and say that I hope everyone has a fantastic weekend!

Happy Mother's Day to all of our mothers out there!

mom

MY mom went to heaven and I miss her so. PLEASE tell her often how much you love her because the day may come when you can't hug, only imagine, and the emptiness is a heavy weight in your chest. I'm going to make my kids help with the breakfast in bed and stand back and absorb the moment, make sure they hug their mom for a long time.

Thank you, phil.QM

Thank you, phil.

QM

Why doesn't Fox News rerun

Why doesn't Fox News rerun "Fox News Watch" throughout the weekends, as it does with it other shows like "Beltway Boys", "Geraldo", etc.?

Neal Gabler's rerun fee is

Neal Gabler's rerun fee is way too high. Unlike his IQ.

SEDITION THE MISSION

Nancy Reid (D-Feat)

Well, Mobi,I see you are here

Well, Mobi,

I see you are here tonight.

Do you care to continue, or would you like to cease and desist?

You know.....

I asked you about how many more National Guard resources were needed in Kansas, for the town that was devastated....the town of 1,574 individuals.

So, you respond to that question, which I have now posed for the tenth and very last time.

Then, if you give a sufficient answer, I'll give you a little clue about why your trolling angers me so.

That's the deal.  Take it or leave it.  Mobi.

Oops!! Sam Brownback makes huge mistake in Wisc

I like Sam Brownback. This will probably hurt him even though he tried real hard to recover, but......

from foxnews.com:

Brownback Booed in Wisconsin After Football Remark
Saturday, May 12, 2007

LAKE GENEVA, Wis. —  Note to Sen. Sam Brownback: In Packerland, it's not cool to diss Brett Favre.

The GOP presidential hopeful drew boos and groans Friday at the Wisconsin Republican Party convention when he used a football analogy to talk about the need to focus on families.

"This is fundamental blocking and tackling," he said. "This is your line in football. If you don't have a line, how many passes can Peyton Manning complete? Greatest quarterback, maybe, in NFL history."

Oops, wrong team to mention in Wisconsin, once described by Gov. Tommy Thompson as the place "where eagles soar, Harleys roar and Packers score."

Realizing what he had said, the Kansas Republican slumped at the podium and put his head in his hands.

"That's really bad," he said. "That will go down in history. I apologize."

His apology brought a smattering of applause and laughter. He tried to recover, saying former Packer Bart Starr may be the greatest of all time, but the crowd was still restless.

"Let's take Favre then," Brownback said. "The Packers are great. I'm sorry. How many passes does he complete without a line?"

"All of them!" more than one person yelled from the back.

"I'm not sure how I recover from this," Brownback said. "My point is we've got to rebuild the family. I'll get off this."

"Rebuild the family&qu

"Rebuild the family" HOW??? How does a politician being elected president help any family other than by decreasing the size and scope of government interference in individual affairs? And why do I suspect Sam doesn't really want to do that, and instead only talks a good "small" government game? Let's just chalk it up to experience... I got my Ron Paul 08 sticker today, it goes on the car Monday. The media blackout is not workin'!!
JMR

I'm looking for my "Fred

I'm looking for my "Fred Thompson" bumper sticker. (Expect him to enter race as soon as his obligation to NBC is finished at the end of sweeps)

No RINOs in '08 - Vote for a true conservative!

SouthJersey1953

SouthJersey1953, not to be nitpicky, but didn't I post almost exactly the same thing you did yesterday a few post above us under Tancredo? I still believe the best chance the GOP has of winning this election is with Guilianni.

Looks like the media's Ron

Looks like the media's Ron Paul blackout extends even to fans...Sorry, ABC, it ain't workin' anymore!
JMR

Mom

     Mom I really love you

and today's your special day

I wish I could be with you

So you could hear me say

        You taught me to be grateful

           For all the things we have

          You taught me to be honest

           And helpful, true and brave

          You asked me to be kind

          To those with less than us

       And so you saw me leave on