In a possible continuance of the congressional Dems' jostling with the Washington Post after their complaints against Post columnist David Broder, Democratic leaders are denying that they have caved to liberal blogger Joshua Marshall:
[T]he offices of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are denying a Washington Post story today saying that Congressional Democrats have backed down to the White House by offering to remove Iraq withdrawal language from the now-vetoed Iraq bill.
Pelosi just went before the Democratic caucus and informed them that the story's false, a Pelosi aide tells me. WaPo is standing by the story, and the lead writer of the Post piece, Jonathan Weisman, told me that leadership aides told him that the withdrawal language had to go. But the WaPo story goes further than that, saying explicitly that Dems have already "backed down" and offered the concession of removing the withdrawal language. Those aren't the same thing.
Why report that Dems have already caved in the negotiations if they haven't yet? [...]So what happened here? I just emailed Post reporter Weisman and requested comment. His answer:
That is very interesting, since I was told in no uncertain terms by one of her aides that the withdrawal dates had to go, since they could not stand by language Bush would never sign. That was cofirmed by another senior leadership aide and two members of the leadership.I can say with no reluctance whatsoever that we stand by the story. By the way, nobody has contacted me about it. That should tell you a lot.
Congressional Dems are trying to save face it seems. Marshall continues:
I have no problem believing that these aides said this, or that the withdrawal language is likely to be taken out in the end. But the question remains: If this offer hasn't actually been made yet, why is WaPo saying it has been? It's one thing for the aides to be saying that the language will have to go; it's another to say even before the negotiations have started that the concession has already been offered to the White House. If what the Pelosi and Reid aides are telling me is true, isn't WaPo jumping the gun in saying Dems have already caved in advance of the negotiations?
This all gives rise to a bigger question: Why is much of the media's coverage of this focussed on the Democratic dilemma the veto creates, while so little of it is focussed on the fact that Republicans, too, are in a bind, are trapped between public opinion and their unyielding President, and are going to have to make concessions towards a compromise?
I'm surprised Marshall can't see it. He's usually quite a good analyst. Democrats are going to cave on this simply because their position is ipso facto worse than that of Republicans.
Comments like those made by Harry Reid about the war in Iraq being "lost" coupled with the surrender timetable being demanded by Dems are playing to all the worst stereotypes of Democrats being cut-and-run cowards when it comes to foreign policy.
The veto override failure was a sharp jolt back to reality for Reid, Pelosi, et al., making them realize that they will never get the votes to surrender so they moved accordingly. The Post somehow found out about it and printed it. After that leaked out, the leadership realized that they needed to save face with the extreme left, hence the quasi-denial to Marshall.
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Remember how elated the dem
May 3, 2007 - 12:45 ET by JDWRemember how elated the dems were upon negating our security plan? This is creating tears.
JDW
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They caved.
May 3, 2007 - 12:47 ET by HelenSThey caved.
If you want to be absolutely
May 3, 2007 - 12:53 ET by Ruths husband BenIf you want to be absolutely pissed off, read this:
[warning: graphic stupidity]
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/17173005.htm
Yaba daba doo! -Fred Flintstone campaign slogan
Right you are Ben, I am pis
May 3, 2007 - 13:00 ET by MightyMouthRight you are Ben, I am pissed. And I only had to read the first two paragraphs to get there.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Instead of "graphic st
May 3, 2007 - 19:25 ET by motherbeltInstead of "graphic stupidity" it should have had a "duct tape" alert, a la Glenn Beck. You know, wrap your head with duct tape, because this is going to cause it to explode, and you want to keep your brains contained, at least.
No no, of course they didn'
May 3, 2007 - 12:55 ET by MightyMouthNo no, of course they didn't "cave". And they aren't going to remove any wording from the vetoed bill. What they are gonna do, is give the president another bill that doesn't include the wording, hence saving face.... ROFLMAO!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
They backed down. I loved i
May 3, 2007 - 12:56 ET by derbalThey backed down. I loved it when Biden was like "We're gonna shove Bush's veto down his throat". Hahaha.
Right....they shoved it dow
May 3, 2007 - 19:27 ET by motherbeltRight....they shoved it down his throat and he chewed it up and spit it out, right back in their faces. How long do you think it will be before they start saying he vetoed funding and is denying the troops the supplies they need? Or have they started already?
The Dem's whole point was get
May 3, 2007 - 13:19 ET by Prester JohnThe Dem's whole point was getting Repubs on record as not wanting to surrender for use in the 2008 election. Somehow they think this will work in their favor.
Back down - When did ever Sta
May 3, 2007 - 13:28 ET by Gat New YorkBack down - When did ever Stand Up in the first place?
Checkin' the Nutroots...
May 3, 2007 - 14:11 ET by heldmywFunny, the gasbags over at Democratic Underground are pretty definite on the subject...
I refer you to: http://www.democrati...
A "discussion" thread poetically titled "REID AND PELOSI F$^KIN' CAVED AGAIN!"
Pelosi and Reid's allies are NOT amused.
The Dem's don't call it de
May 3, 2007 - 15:00 ET by Ruths husband BenThe Dem's don't call it defeat.
It's "victory" (they say) through retreat
I cannot wait
For 2008
A "victory" for them would be sweet
Yaba daba doo! -Fred Flintstone campaign slogan
The leftists lost...no matter
May 3, 2007 - 16:02 ET by bigtimerThe leftists lost...no matter how they attempt to spin it.
Period.
Btw...I have already heard some of the spin, the bench-marks with making the Iraqi's fulfill..well, news flash, the President has always said that, the Iraqi's need to stand up...as soon as they do, we will stand down...of course there are bench-marks, that should be a given anyway with people with common sense that are fighting and working over there, the military can report this to the Congress-critters that think they are arm-chair generals on the Hill, they really do need to quit interfering and making laws, but hey, what do the leftist care, they want defeat at the cost of any-one's blood, including their own if their plan for defeat it eventually implemented.
I also never ever hear any sympathy for the people in lines applying for jobs as policemen/or working in a police dept. or for the Iraqi military that get blown up by a suicide bomber, or rounded up and held and their heads hacked off and all 29 of them executed a couple of weeks back...no, the press doesn't want to discuss the bravery and what some of these people and their country is going through with the enemy, why would they, they are in business to aide and abet the enemy all for our defeat here....
Hiding an exit strategy in pl
May 3, 2007 - 16:43 ET by ucHiding an exit strategy in plain sight, still.
>>> No, this is not about Democrats having a plan. It is however about another simple piece of Presidential logic they either keep missing or keep ignoring.
>>> "Operation Iraqi Freedom" is the name of the "war" they are trying to end (Are they also trying to end the "War on Terror?") For now lets just look at "Operation Iraqi Freedom." >>> It isn't operation fully develop Iraqi Government and systems, it isn't Let us rule their country, it isn't let us forever be their police force and army, it isn't anything more than Iraqi freedom and Iraqi freedom for the majority and not just the minority of Iraqies. >>> This operation is so named that we can leave any time but shouldn't leave until we have exhausted our possible moral obligations to try atleast "clearing and holding" as that was a course still not fully tested. Bush did change course after the last election in US.
"Hiding an exit strategy in plain sight."
What else do the Democrats keep missing? How much longer will we be still cleaning up after Clintons' failed (or just immoral (freedom for us and no help for others)) foreign policies? President Bush is still doing pretty well as a relief pitcher trying to keep Reagan's and father Bush's good start from ending up the failure Clintons' years (in hindsight) brought us.
How do you give freedom to people that have been denied it without being seen as just a replacement of their past oppressor? Just give it to them, and stand by them?
SEN CLINTON SEEKS NEW REAUT
May 3, 2007 - 18:20 ET by JDWSEN CLINTON SEEKS NEW REAUTHORIZATION TO END IRAQ
This time the dems were not lying.
JDW
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I will be so glad when that s
May 3, 2007 - 18:39 ET by bigtimerI will be so glad when that screeching leftist woman is laid to rest politically speaking.
I do not know how much more I can take of this evil loser... this is just desperation she is screeching about now...she is losing and she knows it.
Desperation is an ugly thing at times, and what better person to represent that.
Thanks for the link since I didn't watch the Senate very much today....I did hear her screeching about the war and her latest BS about what she is going to do about it somewhere else today on a segment somewhere and she was thankfully hoarse.
Obama better get Secret Service...desperation brings about desperate measures.
Now Hillary Rotten introduced
May 3, 2007 - 19:01 ET by Gat New YorkNow Hillary Rotten introduced a bill that is essentially We Changed Our Mind or We Don't Want To Do This Anymore by introducing a bill that is intended to retract the authorization to go to war with Iraq. I think they are too late by a few years. Imagine if this same pathetic person was around during FDR and introduced a bill to take back the authorization to go to war against Japan and Germany. There are no do-overs if you are President. She and her confederates are deplorable.