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Damn that sarcasmo-economy.

Damn that sarcasmo-economy...Or something like that.
JMR

It's all Reagan's fault!  ;-

It's all Reagan's fault!  ;-)

Sorry, using the de-cloaker to read your posts makes me dizzy.

Nice link Sarc!  Too bad it's probably accurate.  :-(

Free,Its an ad for gold!  Pr

Free,

Its an ad for gold!  Probally a good thing to have in the portfolio.

Now what about the market vs. say computers??

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  my litmous test for President.      BT(adapted)

Computers are over-rated.

Computers are over-rated. ;-)  But so is the DOW Industrial index.

Computers are going down in p

Computers are going down in price but mines going off, Later

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  my litmous test for President.      BT(adapted)

No, if anything it's an ad

No, if anything it's an ad against the dollar. And the only part that was ever up to Reagan was debasing the copper penny in 1982 (I was perhaps the ONLY one who bitched) to the piece of crap zinc-slug it is now. Of course, given inflation, those piece of crap zinc slugs still cost more than a penny to produce, but my main point to all of you was that some of this media economy hype about the Dow is just that. Hype. The government, especially during wars, wants to do 2 things if you listen to history's lessons. Lie about anything possible, and repudiate all possible debt. They're actively doing both these days, and some of us are getting tired of it. That's very much beyond "an ad for gold." You can see bland ads for gold all the time on TV (and a cursory look at history indicates silver is likely to be a better bet).
JMR

PS Litmus was/is/will-be spelled "litmus" in realityville...

Rosie to be replaced by......

Rosie to be replaced by................Roseanne???!!!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04302007/tv/ro_placements_tv_don_kaplan.htm

Joy Behar is thinking "S

Joy Behar is thinking "Stop hiring comedians that are funnier than me." 

Or she could be thinking: &

Or she could be thinking: "Keep hiring comedians that are fatter than me"

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Wow, you are a prophet.  Tod

Wow, you are a prophet.  Today's news has a study that lesbians are fatter than straight women.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21635542-5012769,00.html

"Wow, you are a prophe

"Wow, you are a prophet. Today's news has a study that lesbians are fatter than straight women."

Duh. That's because straight guys don't want them, so they turn gay. Lesbians are usually uglier than straight women too, making them turn gay for the same reason.

Okay, that's my politically incorrect post of the day.

Maybe gay "chicks&quot

I can top that:

Maybe gay "chicks" just eat different than straight chicks?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

The other name floating today

The other name floating today is Connie Chung -- provided she doesn't sing, I'm guessing.

Thanks a lot, Tim, there goes

Thanks a lot, Tim, there goes my lunch!

And now, today’s Shrub Repo

And now, today’s Shrub Report®:

Sixty-two years ago today, Adolph and Eva celebrated their one-day wedding anniversary by doing the world a favor and killing themselves.

For the second time ever, fire melted steel.

The Democrats are about to mess up the minimum wage bill, too. Congrads, my progressive comrades, your party is as inept as mine!

Speaking of our esteemed Democrat(ic) comrades, it seems San Fran Nan is willing to meet with dictators from Syria and Iran, but will refuse to meet with an ally like Columbia and attend briefings about Iraqi war funding. Yep, her elbow is still firmly on the pulse of the country, as usual.

What do you do when people are not buying into worshipping your Klown God? Why, ratchet up the doom and gloom rhetoric, that’s what you do!

Scores of “non-terrorist” Taliban  die in Afghanistan. The author tries to frame it in “quagmire” fashion, but just cannot seem to do it: The insurgency was at its deadliest last year with more than 4,000 people killed -- most of them rebels. So, the terrorists, er, rebels, er, insurgents were at their deadliest when they, themselves, are the ones doing the dying? Works for this Shrubber!

Today’s Religion of Peace update.

Eventually, you will run out of people to blame.

Pot, meet kettle.

Ron Mexico, dog fighter.

And the downside is… what again?

Wasn’t this the plot for “Halloween III”?

And finally, happy birthday, Church of Satan!

Here's a good article from th

Here's a good article from the Detroit News about some of our Michigan representatives and their spending habits, courtesy of tax-payers:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007704300325

My favorite is a quote from Tracy Walker, a spokeswoman for Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick about the need for an XM Satellite Radio for Kilpatrick's leased vehicle:

The XM Satellite Radio gives her "access to a variety of national news and talk shows not accessible on local stations that keep her informed of breaking news topics, current events and public opinion forums."

Yep.  That's what I would use it for.

Roger, don't be such a tool

Roger, don't be such a tool. It is physically unpossible (Ralph Wiggum word) for fire to melt steel. The bridge in CA was brought down by the Bush Administration, to give the Army a good excuse to invade California, depose Gov. S., and bring democracy to anorexic supermodels and actresses. /sarc off/

Who shall be Luther to refute the papacy of Global Warming?

Just ignore that black van pa

Just ignore that black van parked outside your residence, SarahAnnie. Go about your day like you normally would....

BTW, weren't you in "Poltergeist"?

I know that they named a pla

I know that they named a plastic wrap after her.

Without recognizing the ordinances of Heaven, it is impossible to be a superior man. - Confucious

I have never seen Poltergis

I have never seen Poltergist. Perhaps the black van outside my residence is going to pay me royalties for that and for the Saran Wrap. Yeah, that's it!

I wasn't being mean, Roger, I really do like the Shrub Report.

Those are not, I repeat, NOT,

Those are not, I repeat, NOT, black helicopters hovering above your house.

:p

Move Over, Osama!

Move Over, Osama!

There’s a new kid on the block
By Mark Harris, NationalPoliticalDigest.com

It is very disappointing that even President Bush is tiptoeing over the line with his recent pronouncements about “global warming”, which by implication suggest a man made cause.
When you couple this with the recent ruling by the Supreme Court on co2 gas, the “ new
religion” is becoming more problematic for the nation and the world. With the majority
opinion written by the never surprising Justice Stevens, it suggests the intellectual bottle in which
five-ninths of this august group prefer to cork their minds. It cries for a mass resignation on their
part followed probably by forming their own little club to save disenfranchised whales.

Through the centuries, there have been countless wars. The untold deaths, destruction and
cruelty are marked in history. The assault on the civilized world by Osama bin Laden is the most notable of late. His followers and clones seem to enjoy the infliction of pain and death all in the name of Allah. Even though his victims are relatively small in number, the brutality of each event, especially on the innocent, will in time bring its comparative fury to the upper ranks of the wartime pantheon. As an aside, dear readers, this religious debauchery will last for decades to come. There might be a cure out there, but it is not anywhere in the near future. You smooth the feathers of 9/11 at
your very peril, and your children’s children.
On a different front, through the past number of years, another type of enemy has been rearing its ugly head. This enemy is cunning, lacking in conscience and determined. The titular mouthpiece has been self-anointed. I call him “Al Gorebal”. Sounds a little like Goebbels, doesn’t it? Joseph was the
Minister of Propaganda for the Nazi Third Reich before and during World War II. In his own way
Al is just as sinister. The “Gorebal Warning” spewed by him and his like minded minions is
gaining steam. Pardon the “cool” pun, but these feckless and unsubstantiated claims are beginning
to snowball.

The faithful are preaching that the earth’s temperature is rising. The fact you can’t actually measure
an average temp for today, one hundred years ago, even ten years ago, doesn’t seem to dissuade
the echo of the blind leading the blind. Leaving out the "Hockey Stick graph" separates the transmission from the engine in all of their models of false predictions. This omission leaves out a large and very important segment of the planet’s history. By the way, ever check next week’s weather prediction with reality.

Migration of roaches in Australia is blamed on global warming. Big deal! Ever tried renting an
apartment in New Orleans, say, in the last one hundred years or so? You’ll see how the little buggers
migrate. Unless, maybe Katrina drowned them out. And by the way, the storm was blamed on global
warming.

One of the most extremist “Gorebal Warnings” is that sea levels will rise dramatically. Actually, they
have been rising since the last ice age. But never mind that inconvenient fact. I wonder how many
coal-fired electric plants were operating in the year 100,000 B.C.? Probably not a great number of
suv’s either.

Polar bears are having a problem, too. It is being suggested that they be put on the “Endangered Species List”. Funny that of the 13 conglomerates of bears in Canada, 11 are absolutely thriving.
There is so much confusion and misinformation that it boggles the mind. It is time to introduce a new
word in today’s lexicon; libthink.

lib’-think: the perversion of the Constitution; the mockery of democracy; the combination of 1 part
socialism and 1 part communism; the controlling of the vast majority by a small elite through
destructive government policies; the manipulation and distortion of the truth; the using of half
truths to ensnare, gain sympathy and evoke guilt; to be a member of most of the Democrat
leadership; to lie for the sheer benefit of power without regard for what is best for the nation

David Geffen recently uttered his opinion of the Clinton’s veracity, but he fell short of the millions
around the world he should have been describing, including Al Gore. You know, “ole invent the
internet Al”. Some of you must remember his tear jerking story about his dying sister. He told it
at his and Bill’s first convention. His sister had died from lung cancer. He swore to spend the rest
of his life to work toward stopping smoking for us infidels. He “conveniently” left out the part
about his leasing land to tobacco growers at the same time. Just a slip. Then, of course, there’s that
pesky little zinc mine on the farm in Tennessee. It’s the one that lifts tons of polluting material
up into what used to be safe sky. Don’t really need to mention the fuel use in the mansion in
Nashville, do we? Oh, that’s right! He buys carbon offsets. Doesn’t matter that he owns the company
they come from. Nothing fishy here. They don’t make a shoe that will fit his “footprint”. But he’s got
a mouth that will take it; the foot, anyway. Al is certainly the flower of the environmentalists. Hey, he’s
got an Oscar! He’s nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize! Very simply put, folks, this is not a half
full nor a half empty crock. It’s just a crock!

Gore is not the only libthinker in this “new religion”. He is joined by the so-called mainstream media,
scientists who are paid by the environmentalist lobby, scientists and individual citizens who are afraid
of being called “deniers”, and of course, the libthinkers in the U.S. Congress. The last group can
hardly wait to get their staffs working on legislation ad infinitum.

“Global Warming” is but another example of the many other whore daughters of liberalism. The “War
on Poverty”, food stamps, the United Nations, the Publika Skool System (sounds a little socialistic
or maybe communistic, doesn’t it) , etc., are just others of the sisterhood. Remember, it is not the
program or institution that matters. The substance is inconsequential, so long as it takes from the haves
and distributes to the have nots, with the power lying in the hands of the libthinkers. This house of
prostitution is simply the rack on which to hang their “white priestly collars” while they blast sermons of
falsities to create fear, guilt and enslavement.

Try the, what I call, “Google Test”. You need to go surfing. Each time you hear or read one of the
latest, (they show up almost every moment), manmade “global warming” scares, Google it. See how far
down the page or pages you have to go to find anything that might contradict the proposition. We do
have one man who rates a five star on any Google Test. His name is Jim Inhofe, Senator, Republican,
Oklahoma. He sits as a giant next to Babbling Boxer on the Environmental Committee. He is to be
highly lauded for his unswerving commitment and tenacity in debunking every “global warming crock”
that comes along.

I warn conservative Republicans and the few Democrats, if you don’t join in lock step with the
aforementioned senator and battle this insipid libthink conspiracy at this stage, you will be fighting both Osama and the “antichrist of global warning” in true earnest before the prophetic Titanic runs into the melting iceberg!

So what kind of investigative

So what kind of investigative and interrogative methods did the Saudis use that enabled them to break up the terrorist plot to blow up their oil fields?

It must have been the most

It must have been the most horrible torture of all: 24/7 blarring Dixie Chicks music.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

I'd cut my own wrists with

I'd cut my own wrists with my teeth and finger nails if I had to listen to that trash.

Im betting is was the Dixie C

Im betting is was the Dixie Chicks videos on big screen hi def with 100000 watt speakers, and their eyes taped open so they had to watch...

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

"So what kind of inves

"So what kind of investigative and interrogative methods did the Saudis use that enabled them to break up the terrorist plot to blow up their oil fields?"

Why, cookies and milk of course. Naturally, amnesty international is protesting on the basis that using fattening products such as cookies and milk amounts to torture. They were last seen protesting outside the White House with signs stating "George Bush = Cookie Monster".

Accountant tells truth. New

Accountant tells truth. News media stay totally silent about it. Sigh...
JMR

Sarc, in trying to follow u

Sarc, in trying to follow up on that link (and it's sources) there is a redirect from the source to:

Financial State of the Union
Your Share of Our Financial Hole - $176,700

It's a dead link, just when you think you are going to get the "goods": 404 Page not found!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

It's indeed dead. I never g

It's indeed dead. I never got that far, such reading tends to depress me even more than most varieties of bad news, and I was upset enough at the original article. Good thing the vaunted "2 party system" is doing so-well at keeping politicians fiscally-responsble with the taxpayers' money, eh?
JMR

Depressing to say the least

Depressing to say the least. I just wanted to see where the numbers came from. Just sounded too outlandish to me, but that doesn't make the numbers false. Just curious I guess.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Hey there, Sarc,Read the arti

Hey there, Sarc,

Read the article... unbelievable! However, I must say I'm not sure a three- or even four-party system would automatically cause more fiscal responsibility. Might just mean slicing the pie into smaller pieces. But WTH, might as well give it a shot. What we got is robbing us blind, it looks like.

It's harder to buy-off 3-4 crooks than just 2.

It's harder to buy-off 3-4 crooks than just 2. Sad to say, but that's what it's come-to, and I can't even say how much government has proved its absolute incompetence lately in my private life, but it's safe to say I won't be changing my opinions too-soon. As if any of you ever expected me to, anyway... Government's criminality and tolerance of criminality in the pursuit of politics is stranger than fiction.
JMR

Computer

I posted this problem on Saturday and received some helpful solutions, but sadly they didn't work.  So I thought I would ask the weekday NB gang.

Only when I visit this site and Drudge, I get a repetitive error message that says:

Stack Overflow At Line: 0

I run XP Pro and use IE 6.  I have emptied my caches and cookies, uninstalled Java, Google Toolbar, ran a virus scan,checked my firewall, ran Norton Utilities, and tried IE 7.  It's very annoying.  I find it weird that it only effects these two sites. It started about two weeks ago.

Anyone have any ideas of what I can try next?

Sounds like you have a persis

Sounds like you have a persistant user of resources, otherwise known as spyware or perhaps more malevolent.  Try getting a new HD and starting from scratch, pulling some programs and data from your old drive after you have installed some good virus/firewall/spyware programs.

Perhaps you also need more memory, say 512 or 1 gig  ram.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

Not that it will help in th

Not that it will help in this situation, but I'd suggest leaving Java on your computer as it is becoming a very essential tool for complex online applications.

Here's one answer, regarding

Here's one answer, regarding Stack Overflow.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

You could also try this: In

You could also try this:

In IE goto tools-->Internet Options-->Advanced tab:

Check both:

Disable Script Debugging(Internet Explorer)
Disable Script Debugging (other)

Uncheck:

Display a notification about every script error.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

He should try checking disa

He should try checking disable script debugging and unchecking display a notification about every script error.

If unsuccessful, download FireFox, manually write in the Drudge address, and go. If this works, the browser is capable of copying owner all addresses from IE.

IE is still incurring problems and is well behind the capabilities offered by FF.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Thanks

Thanks to all who offered an opinion.  So far nothing has worked.  Of course that fact that its only this site and Drudge has me thinking of some kind of conspiracy....

Pete,Noticed that one suggest

Pete,

Noticed that one suggestion had to do with spyware. I found a great spyware program at Lavasoft.com. It's called Ad-Aware SE Personal. It's free, and it helped me clean up some problems. No guarantee, but it might be worth a try before you get a new HD or some of the more radical solutions offerred.

Good luck. 

Can also try SpyBot, another

Can also try SpyBot, another free download, finds alot of nastys.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

"And now for something c

"And now for something completely different" 

One of the things that really irritates me about liberals is that liberal men are whining, sniveling, spineless, testosterone-challenged wimps.  And I love manly men.  So when I read this article, I was thrilled and encouraged that we could still find real men in the world (in case anyone's interested, a lot of them are over there fighting for our freedoms.):

“[O]ur casualty-averse public and puckering politicians have forced our gradually emasculated military to deploy excessively heavy sniper teams both in numbers and equipment that make it very difficult if not impossible to deploy and occupy hides without compromise.

“Our country continues to be polarized and the huge questions that persist for the future are will this lack of cohesion, coupled with a degradation of national will, war repugnance, absence of aggressive cultivation of a warrior class and aversion to the human consequences of armed conflict result in the same decline of our homeland as similar societal changes wrought the Roman Empire?”  -  Bob Pilgrim, “Small Unit Tactics”, Special Weapons for Military & Police, 2007, p. 74

...sigh...I love the sound of that phrase "warrior class". 

(The two paragraphs don't really blend together well since they were taken from random places in the article but they speak to some of the problems real men face and they both just sound so strong.)

The warrior class

HelenS,  The warrior class in America is still alive and strong.  We've just been ignored because we don't exist in places where there is a large media outlet.  The warrior class resides in red states(and some blue, but we're farther underground.)  We are raised patriots, and our first right of passage is when we get our first BB gun under the tree for Christmas.  Our Dad then teaches us responsibility for our Country, our Family, and our lifestyle.  We are the ones that they will have to pry the guns out of our "cold dead hands" that the MSM and the liberals largely ignore, and mostly despise.  Why do they despise us?  Because they know that we are the backbone of our Country, and they have to rely on us for their very survival.  We are the first ones to step up to the plate when the Military and the Country needs us.  Why?  Not because we be so po' and unedumakated that it's our only choice.   Because we feel it's our duty and privliege to do so.  Serving our country is a Noble profession, and our relatives and fellow country people support us to the death because they know it's so.  That's why we have such a successful all volunteer Military, because this Warrior Class is alive and well and carrying a proud tradition started by our Forefathers. 

I think the moral of this rant is this.  We don't mind the MSM and the libs talking bad about us.  We know better.  And if you want to meet one of us, find a map that has the red and blue states listed, find a red one, and travel as far out into the country as  you can.  Go to the local cafe at lunch time, and sit down and talk to the guy sitting alone that orders chicken fried steak, mashed potatoes and gravy with a large sweet tea.

My greatest handicap is that

My greatest handicap is that I live in Fairfax, Virginia.  This is within walking distance of the DC beltway and we all know who lives inside the beltway (and trust me, a LOT of them have gotten out!).

I doubt there's any way to get compensation for this toxic exposure...?  But it is incredibly discouraging to work with, listen to, drive amongst, and be so constantly reminded of the concentration of insanity that is the outcome of so many libs in one place.

I thank you for the reminder that there are real men, the warrior class, out there (and one in my home :o).

Churches Burned

Two churches were burned in my town this past weekend.  One a Methodist and the other a Presbyterian.  It was reported by a church member that someone tried to get into three churches before gaining access to the Methodist church Saturday.  You would think everyone would have been on heightened alert Sunday and been prepared but I guess not and they got into the Presbyterian church any way.  Here is a local blog that does a great job of reporting local issues and here is another.  The paper doesn't do as well but here is the link.  There is an article on the Methodist church.  Speculation as to why is drug related craziness but who really knows at this point.  If they tried to get in to so many churches it seems to me they were set on burning churches, not just any building. The local paper is not concluding the arsonists have any reason to hate religion or anything, maybe they just like arson.

"The war is lost"

"The war is lost"... Legislation was past knowing beforehand that it would be vetoed... Welcoming defeat, congress seeks to end Iraq through inappropriate funding over the course of a defined period...

How would the same dems react if bin Laden announced withdrawal from Iraq on 10/15/07?

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

I know this weekend we were

I know this weekend we were talking about all-time great movie car chases.

What about other types of chases? I only ask because I always thought Johnny Utah chasing Bodi through a Los Angeles neighborhood was one of the best on foot chases ever.

I'm voting for Flying sequenc

I'm voting for Flying sequences in war movies - I'm voting for "Empire of the Sun" - best flying as seen from the ground, even if the aircraft markings were unfamiliar if even accurate - quote "P-51, the cadillac of the sky!"

Back to the cars - wasn't a chace per se, but we didn't even consider "Grand Prix" - nothing BUT cars going fast and "chasing" each other - first use of cameras attached to the cars at speed. Good old F1 cars, on real courses. The world needs to reinstitute the Mille Miglia.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

I have trouble placing ANYTHI

I have trouble placing ANYTHING from "Point Break" into a "top ten" category of any type, unless, of course, yoo ask me to name Keanu Reeves' top ten crappiest films.

Okay, everybody name Keanu's 10 worst movies!

I'll start things off with a couple:

'Feeling Minnesota" & "My Own Private Idaho"

How about that one with Charl

How about that one with Charlize Theron where she's dying, then there's The Replacements, and Hardball, and...

Just to prove that the Hollyw

Just to prove that the Hollywood elite are on the enemies side, we still have yet to get a movie about the heroism of US soldiers in the GWOT, but we get this:

"Soldiers of Conscience"  'The film is about Benderman and other U.S. soldiers whose experiences in Iraq prompted them to seek out conscientious objector status.'

No story about Paul Ray Smith, nor Navy Seal Roberts for whom Roberts Ridge has been named, nope......  Consciencioius Objectors get the celluloid.

I like Bruce Willis, and I re

I like Bruce Willis, and I remember when "Tears of the Sun" came out.  I heard he played a SeAL, and I was looking forward to seeing it, but I never heard mention of it playing in the theaters, or saw any reviews, and didn't know it had been relased until I saw it at the video store.  After I watched it, and saw the tremendously positive image it painted of our troops, I knew why the media ignored it.

I wonder if Randall Tobias us

I wonder if Randall Tobias used a condom when he called upon one of the DC Madam's escorts.

And this is important to our

And this is important to our discussion how?

I'm sorry, what were we discu

I'm sorry, what were we discussing?

Roger mentioned this:For th

Roger mentioned this:

For the second time ever, fire melted steel.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Okaaaay.I only brought up Mr.

Okaaaay.

I only brought up Mr. Tobias because, while the "DC Madam" and her clientele have been on the news a good bit lately, I have heard no mention of Mr. Tobias's anti-condom stance in his dealings with the U.S. global Aids policy. I thought it was an interesting hypocracy.

Perhaps the real story is t

Perhaps the real story is that the administration doesn't tolerate hypocracy and that Tobias has resigned because of his actions. But then you would have to give the administration some credit, can't have that ,can we?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

That may very well be. He may

That may very well be. He may have been forced to leave because Bush doesn't tolerate hypocracy, but the possible hypocracy went unmentioned by the media. At least in the newscasts I viewed. I say possible hypocracy because I obviously don't know if Mr. Tobias used condoms in his "sessions" with the "escorts." I'm only assuming.

Well then, you may have don

Well then, you may have done some good, you never know who reads this site! :-)

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

"[Iowa] House Democrat

Probably because the GOP has

Probably because the GOP has a better buffet table.

Or it could be that running f

Or it could be that running from a fight does not play well in non-coastal america...

Did you see the picture? I'm

Did you see the picture? I'm pretty sure it's the buffet.

How old are you, man? Those

How old are you, man? Those kinds of jokes are made by arrogant, self-righteous high school and college students. Would ya stop, please?!

Ahem, I almost made the sam

Ahem,AJ, I almost made the same joke! Which would pretty much prove your point! :-p

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Get off the high horse. You k

Get off the high horse. You know you'd be laughing if she switched from GOP to Democrat.

I'll make a deal with ya. Y

I'll make a deal with ya. You get off your "low-hitting, poorly executed, innuendo jokes" horse and I will get off my "high" horse. Deal? Deal...

NB.org NB.org NB.org !!!!!!

NB.org NB.org NB.org !!!!!! Someone, PLEEEEASE, take a look at THIS msn.com article (but from our good friends at AP) and post a new blog! Go here:

http://www.msnbc.msn...

Headline reads "Terror attacks worldwide rise 25 percent in '06"... "worldwide", remember.... BUT.... then the smaller subhead is "State Department says most attacks in Iraq, Afghanistan" !!!

This is a BLATANT attempt at framing/spinning attacks that are going on in war zone countries (and really, 98% just Iraq -- where the war IS), to make it sound like global terror attacks are up, and, "you see, the world is less safe" ... Unbelievable !!!

Wait a minute MrShy, that m

Wait a minute MrShy, that must be a typo. The insurgents are really just freedom fighters. Or are they referring to our troop actions as the terrorism? /sarcasm off

Man I hate the MSM!!! They cause a seething rage in me that I'm not proud of.

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. Talk sense to a
liberal and he calls you a racist, sexist, biggot, homophobe, denier.

I just took about 4 seconds

I just took about 4 seconds of my time to do the math...

According to the National Tarrorist Center, (from the article) there were 14,000 terrorist attacks in 06. The total number in BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan amounted to far, far less than you claim - 47%. You tried to disseminate to ditto-heads out there that it amounted to 98%. You are kind of fudging the numbers in a big way.

Apparently, more than half of the attacks occured outside of our war in Iraq.

I see you people do this kind of thing all the time. Then you get people responding who just believe this stuff without checking the veracity of the claim.

Read the article that you provided. It is all there in black and white.

new math

The article you cite has completely different numbers than the ones you made up.

Here's some cut and paste.

"Monday, the State Department says about 14,000 attacks took place in 2006, mainly in Iraq and Afghanistan."

"The report says 6,600, or 45 percent, of the attacks took place in Iraq,"

"Afghanistan had 749 strikes in 2006"

Let's see, 6600 plus 749 equals 7349.

7349 over 14000 equals 52.5%, roughly.

It's all there in black and white.

Maybe you should have taken more than 4 seconds..

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you are right. That's emba

you are right. That's embarassing. I reversed the numbers. Well...still a LONG sight from 98%. Hmm?  Still just as shameless. 

Hardly shameless, Chum.Do you

Hardly shameless, Chum.

Do you recall hearing stories of terrorist incidents in Indonesia, the Phillipines, Germany, England, etc., etc.?

So, by your liberal math, terrorist acts in two countries, which comprise approximately 53% worldwide, is "shameless"?

I'd suggest you do a little more research before you start throwing that kind of canard around the posts, here.

Okay Chumly, others, I'm

Okay Chumly, others, I'm sorry to not clarify.... the 98% was referring to Iraq vs. Afganistan only, not Iraq and everywhere else... and I plead guilty that it WAS just a random number...

BUT.... the jist (gist?... I'm too lazy to sp check, sorry :p) of my beef w/ the article, and more specfically the completely misleading headline, is that the they get away with including this 50-plus percent of all attacks (from Iraq/Afganistan) and proclaim some global "increase" of worldwide terror attacks! Take the theater of war out of the equation, and instead of some 26% increase, you have (hmm....) I think a 35-40% DECREASE !!

The point I  got from your 

FYI, the point I  got from your very first post was that it was a false "scare" headline that tried to make it look like world wide terrorism is increasing.  The rest from Chumley is just liberal background noise....

MrShy,Lies, damn lies, and st

MrShy,

Lies, damn lies, and statistics, dude!

That's why we're here....combatting liberal media bias.

Nothing more biased than liberal headlines.

Remind me never to use your numbers again, tho.  :D

actually, math is my strong p

actually, math is my strong point :) go figure.... :p

Me too,But I should know bett

Me too,

But I should know better than to use anyone else's numbers other than my own, or to actually read the posted article before I make a silly post!  Ooops.

haha, well, I will be les

haha, well, I will be less lazy in the future.... but that headline is still completely misleading.... AND....

a bit of an off-shoot subject, but well, actually, no... how many times have we been attacked since 9/11?? (and being from NYC, we were all sure it was when, not if, and within a year, or 2, tops)... and then to expand to other developed western contries/continents... since UK's attack in 2005, has there been an attack in Europe in the last 2 years?, after so many in the immediate years following 9/11 ?? ... no.... and allies in S. America? Canada? how about Checznian Russia? it's been a while in all of the more western/secular parts of the world... KNOCK ON WOOD, of course.... Al Qaeda, or what splintered groups that remain... have moved to more vulnerable targets like in Africa... and because they've been pushed out/south, it seems...

Hmmmm....maybe George Bush ha

Hmmmm....maybe George Bush has a point, unlike the OBLIO's here.

okay Blonde, bear with me, cu

okay Blonde, bear with me, cuz I'm still a bit wet behind the ears w/ abbreviations.... Osama - Bin - Ladin - something - something ..... :p

MrShy, No, OBLIO is nothing l

MrShy,

No, OBLIO is nothing like that....it's kind of an funny cultural kind of thing.

OBLIO is a reference to wonderful allegory.

A nice way to call a troll a troll, without getting too nasty.

Check it out!