This is an excerpt from a speech entitled "Neo-CONNED," given by Congressman Ron Paul on the House Floor on July 10, 2003:
More important than the names of people affiliated with neo-conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary of the general understanding of what neocons believe:
1. They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as well as intellectual.
2. They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are willing to use force to do so.
3. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends.
4. They accept the notion that the ends justify the means—that hardball politics is a moral necessity.
5. They express no opposition to the welfare state.
6. They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they strongly endorse it.
7. They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive.
8. They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit.
9. They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not have the courage to deal with it.
10. They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill advised.
11. They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem.
12. They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is appropriate.
13. Using American might to force American ideals on others is acceptable. Force should not be limited to the defense of our country.
14. 9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not from too many.
15. They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same applies to all strict constitutionalists.)
16. They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary.
17. They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.
It seems, after many long discussions, that most, if not all, of these apply to Unsane's thinking. I was curious how many other's agreed with these points.
Video is on YouTube, and the transcript can be found here:
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Bump for Unsane, I'd hate f
May 2, 2007 - 18:01 ET by WhichWingBump for Unsane, I'd hate for him to miss this one.
What's with the anti-Semitism
May 2, 2007 - 20:05 ET by UnsaneWhat's with the anti-Semitism?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Im curious about who on this
May 2, 2007 - 20:14 ET byIm curious about who on this site doesn't agree with this on this blog
How about adding allowing Murdoch to take over world journalism for #18?
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
It is obvious you do not inte
May 2, 2007 - 20:24 ET by UnsaneIt is obvious you do not interact with many conservatives....
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Im curious about who on this
May 2, 2007 - 20:15 ET byLong live the Empire!
How many nations has the Unit
May 2, 2007 - 20:28 ET by UnsaneHow many nations has the United States colonialized since 1945?
Oh, I forgot. Both you and WhichWhine are horrified at the fact that the United States stands between tyranny and liberty, and that to defend the liberty of many nations, force is sometimes necessary...
And, why the extreme FEAR of one little, lowly, tiny news channel that, truth be told, isn't even that good? Such fear of a news channel that doesn't even reach 1% of the U.S. population on a busy news day...
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
since 1945?? maybe King Georg
May 2, 2007 - 20:56 ET bysince 1945?? maybe King George can change things and win the war for oil in Iraq after another 20 years and 20 trillion...oh and whats a few more american lives for the empire??
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Huh?By the way, if we wanted
May 2, 2007 - 20:58 ET by UnsaneHuh?
By the way, if we wanted oil, rhayes/MT Lyons/schmidt, why aren't we militarily occupying Alberta right now?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Unsane
May 3, 2007 - 00:25 ET by shawn228Well Well unsane, i have read what you posted and all I have to say is.
Looks like it is your Spurs vs my Suns....lol
Well let's see, how many true
May 2, 2007 - 21:12 ET byWell let's see, how many true conservatives have I met??
The old conservatives are hard to find on this site but there are many out there that dont believe in world domination and pollution of the world's atmosphere.
I dont believe Eisenhower wanted to force military might on other in order to dominate the world like the current administration wants to.
We can dominate the entire wo
May 2, 2007 - 21:26 ET by UnsaneWe can dominate the entire world now, without hesitation. If this administration is as evil and bent on world domination as you claim, why hasn't it happened yet?
By the way, save the guilt. I realize you equate saving the planet with the complete dismantling of the world's most advanced and powerful economy, as you are intensely guilt-ridden for living in said economy. But why drag me into your personal Hell?
By the way, if you SO love the environment as you so claim:
1) Why are Brazil, China, and India, among other nations, exempt from the Kyoto Protocol?
2) Why isn't tropical deforestation addressed anywhere in the Kyoto Protocol?
3) Exit Glacier has been melting since at least 1780. What human activity was causing it to melt then?
4) Why is it you greenies throw a fit whenever nuclear energy is mentioned as an alternative energy source? It works for France, providing 78.5% of its energy needs...
5) If global warming is in fact occurring, why was the world's highest ever temp sent in 1922?
6) Why did Lisbon, New Delhi, and Johannesburg get snow storms during their respective winters of 2005-2006?
7) I have been hearing about this global warming thing for 20 years now. If is in fact happening, then why was I chipping off ice off of my truck in San Antonio this past January?
8) Why did it snow SOUTH and EAST of San Antonio for Christmas 2004?
9) Why no major hurricanes hitting the United States during 2006???
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Montana...Uh, how bout some p
May 2, 2007 - 21:31 ET by Clear thinkerMontana...
Uh, how bout some proof that the current administration wants to dominate the world?
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Don't hold your breath wait
May 2, 2007 - 21:36 ET by Free StinkerDon't hold your breath waiting for a citation or link from Montana Moonbat.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
Free...I know he can't prove
May 2, 2007 - 21:40 ET by Clear thinkerFree...
I know he can't prove his assertions, that's why I ask.
Liberals are too easy!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
LOL!
May 2, 2007 - 21:44 ET by Free StinkerLOL!
proof?? Tenet...even when w
May 2, 2007 - 21:43 ET byproof?? Tenet...
even when we find the missing emails and the real truth comes out about bush and rove
you will still be in a permanent state of denial.
bush got off dominating the world playing risk with his cheer leading buddies, while pretending to be a student at yale
I cannot wait to see Bush's diaries but they'll probably "disappear" like the emails.
of course proof was the lies given to powell to invade iraq. You all have a different version of proof and facts than the rest of the world.
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Montana..Yes proof?I want som
May 2, 2007 - 21:47 ET by Clear thinkerMontana..
Yes proof?
I want some real honest to goodness proof of your assertions.
What you included above is worthless, try facts, links, etc.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
(sigh)
May 2, 2007 - 21:50 ET by Free StinkerClear Thinker: Can we have some proof?
Montana Moonbat: Just you wait. You'll see! We'll find something. Demoncrat Underground told me so! Bush is EVIL! I HATE BUSH! ARGH!
It 's not talk like a pirate
May 2, 2007 - 21:54 ET byIt 's not talk like a pirate day
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
Talk Like Elmer Fudd Day
May 2, 2007 - 21:56 ET by Free StinkerOops! Sorry. (blush)
Please remind me when it's Talk Like Elmer Fudd Day. ;-)
But of course, but back to it
May 2, 2007 - 22:03 ET byBut of course, but back to it! there is an attempt to divet two posts down
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
Free...Like I said...liberals
May 2, 2007 - 21:54 ET by Clear thinkerFree...
Like I said...liberals are just too easy!
I have a sneaky suspicion that montana is one of the conspiracy nuts that are convinced that Bush planned 911. When these wackos show me proof that they still have Big Foot in their spaceship, I will consider the 911 conspiracy. Until then all bets are off.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Give me proof about all the i
May 2, 2007 - 21:59 ET byGive me proof about all the intelligence that led us into this stupid war. Give us proof that carbon dioxide and pollution isnt increasing in this world. Give us proof that your wonderful aussie rupert doesnt want to dominate right wing journalism throughout the world.
This site always uses the same standard lines that the white house tell fox news to tell them.
Hopefully , some of you might eventually get off the Titatanic preferably in a life boat.
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government.
Montana Lyons
stink: did you mean elmer cheney day? (9% approval) he's good about proof and facts in order to lie about getting us into this war. slam dunk?? Dont make me laugh!
Too easy!
May 2, 2007 - 22:02 ET by Free StinkerToo easy! Now it's your turn Montana Moonbat. You cite something credible.
How about these sources? CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and the United Nations
And before you say "The WMDs were degraded" just like the talking points tell you to, read the UN report.
Good luck
May 2, 2007 - 22:00 ET by Mr. BishopGood luck extracting any "proof" from Montana Chucklebot there. We've heard his nonsense for far too long, and never once does he provide evidence... just assertion after assertion. I've, factually, never seen anyone who can manunfacture more BS (save for rhayes) then he. It's actually easy to carry on his part of any discussion/conversation, as demonstrated below:
You: Give me proof...
Montana: I don't need to give you proof, since Rove has eaten it all, and refuses to give it up. But, by goodness, when we are able to kill Rove and do an autopsy, the world will know the truth!!
You: Montana, you must be joking -- you spit out one statement after another with no proof, and now you say Rove eats it?
Montana: Yes!! How dare you question me on this!?! It is a proven fact that Rove eats all evidence as a way to hide it!
You: You're serious? You actually believe all this nonsense? Why don't you provide me with some evidence that you have read or seen this happen?
Montana: I can't!! My camera was stolen by Rove personally, when I took pictures of him eating the evidence! I even had a tape recording of him saying how much he and Bush lied to get us into a war for oil in Iraq! But he stole that too, and ate it!
You: I see... so Rove comes to your house, steals your evidence, and eats it, does that about sum things up?
Montana: How dare you question me on this?! It is an undeniable fact, and when Bush is finally gone, and the truth comes out, you'll all see!
You: Right, well... in the mean time, enjoy your padded cell, perhaps the men in the white coats will let you come out tomorrow and play with the jump rope...
Montana: OF COURSE NOT!! Rove ate that too!!
And so it goes... everything in this world, is the fault of Rove, with no proof -- no evidence of a single thing, just some nonsensical babbling of an insane Montana lyons, who probably never was allowed to use a butter knife at the table for fear he might stab himself in the chest.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
hang in there which wing!
May 2, 2007 - 22:11 ET byif I give you proof, it will be censored like you did which wing. how long will his life expectancy be on this site? I hope that you don't unceremoniously dump him to
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Me?
May 2, 2007 - 22:12 ET by Mr. BishopI never censored anyone... LOL!! More conspiracy crap? I find it amazing that I have this power I knew naught about. Alas -- if I had the power, your butt woulda' been bounced out a long time ago...
No... I don't have the power, and you have no evidence.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
MR b being a follower of Bush
May 2, 2007 - 22:18 ET byMR b being a follower of Bush you too must be endowed with powers abilities and manipulations far beyond those of mortal men (and yet a moron)
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
Indeed
May 2, 2007 - 22:20 ET by Mr. BishopI must now change my name from Mr. Bishop, to Supreme Overlord of the Cosmos!
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
Mr b the other mr b--
May 2, 2007 - 22:21 ET by misterbillMr b the other mr b--wants to congratulate you on your promotion and your new God-given powers on NB.
Can you say Poof-the troll is gone??
Supreme Overlord of the Cosmos
May 2, 2007 - 22:24 ET by Mr. BishopThat's Supreme Overlord of the Cosmos to you! By gum, all you peons must bow before myself (and to a lesser extent -- Karl Rove) and worship the ground I hover above!
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
Uh, how about you prove that
May 6, 2007 - 13:07 ET by libertyordeathUh, how about you prove that you are a person and not a troll? Little harder than you might think, huh?
Uh, actually, no. One's pos
May 6, 2007 - 13:12 ET by RJUh, actually, no. One's postings show that one is a troll or not...just as one's postings show whether or not someone is an anti-American nut case.
Well let's see, how many true
May 2, 2007 - 21:12 ET bysorry, its hard getting used to this site and how long it takes for a post to get through.
By the way, nice way to dodge
May 2, 2007 - 21:28 ET by UnsaneBy the way, nice way to dodge easy, simple questions. But what should I expect of Leftists who desperately want the United States to turn into a Big Nanny?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
It's the stupid filter
May 2, 2007 - 22:18 ET by misterbillIt's the stupid filter.
Hey there misterbill,do you m
May 2, 2007 - 22:20 ET byHey there misterbill,
do you mean the filter is stupid or it filters the stupid?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
Perhaps both---but I---
May 2, 2007 - 22:22 ET by misterbillPerhaps both---but I---choose the latter.
Filter of stupidity
May 2, 2007 - 22:22 ET by Mr. BishopAt first, I was wondering if he meant the filter is stupid... then as I pondered about it more, I came to the realization, he meant it filters the stupid.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
Well i guess the overlord has
May 2, 2007 - 22:25 ET byWell i guess the overlord has spoken
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
Indeed
May 2, 2007 - 22:30 ET by Mr. BishopYes indeed... fear not, for the Supreme Overlord of the Cosmos (must refer to myself in the third person now) has felt the urge to allow the masses their chance to be heard...
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
Tumbler only is allowed the t
May 2, 2007 - 22:36 ET byTumbler only is allowed the third person usage
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, my litmous test for President. BT(adapted)
Oh
May 2, 2007 - 22:46 ET by Mr. BishopPerhaps you are correct.... but tumbler would not be the Supreme Overlord of the Cosmos...
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Dude... lighten up..
Get rid of dialup ML, come
May 2, 2007 - 22:23 ET by MightyMouthGet rid of dialup ML, come into the 21st century.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
How many of you agree with
May 3, 2007 - 01:26 ET by WhichWingHow many of you agree with the principles posted above? Unsane, do you subscribe to all 17?
Are you a racist bigot?(You m
May 3, 2007 - 01:44 ET by UnsaneAre you a racist bigot?
(You must be out to prove that you have selective literacy problems...)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I'm not a racist or a bigot
May 3, 2007 - 02:41 ET by WhichWingI'm not a racist or a bigot. Now that I've answered your question, do you subscribe to the points posted above?
You don't like to read, do yo
May 3, 2007 - 04:54 ET by UnsaneYou don't like to read, do you? Or do you just magically forget to read once you see the word Unsane in orange?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I don't know what you are r
May 3, 2007 - 12:15 ET by WhichWingI don't know what you are referring to. You asked me a question, I answered it. I'm asking you a question and you keep telling me that I suffer from selective literacy. The question I am asking is fairly straight forward and I don't see an answer to it. What am I missing?
Since you clearly agree with
May 4, 2007 - 15:09 ET by UnsaneSince you clearly agree with all of those points: read #17 again slowly. It seems that you have a very severe problem with the existence of Israel. Not to mention your use of the term "neocon". What's the problem there?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Maybe you should take your ow
May 4, 2007 - 16:37 ET by WhichWingMaybe you should take your own advice, and read the original post all over again, slowly. I didn't say I agree with any of those points. I didn't write those points. That is all a direct quote from a speech given on the House floor. I was asking if YOU agree with all those points. I have said nothing that could lead you to the conclusion that I "have a very severe problem with the existence of Israel." I also didn't use the term neocon, that was from the speech. So, if you are done skirting the issue, do you agree with everything quoted there?
Then why quote them, and gush
May 8, 2007 - 06:15 ET by UnsaneThen why quote them, and gush over Ron Paul elsewhere?
Tell you what: what do YOU think of those points? Or do you need to be told what to think?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Is there anyone here that i
May 8, 2007 - 06:38 ET by WhichWingIs there anyone here that is surprised that Unsane still refuses to answer?
I quoted them because, when I read them, I thought right away that most of them matched up to the things you've said.
I still don't see the anti-Semitism, what the hell are you talking about?
No one here should be surpris
May 8, 2007 - 06:53 ET by UnsaneNo one here should be surprised since you refuse to answer a single one of my questions. It's a simple game called reciprocity. You whine that this nation is creating more terrorists; I ask you some simple questions to refute that fallacy, and you don't answer them; you whine about their lack of logic instead of being a man and answering them.
So, why should I bother answering your questions? This isn't a one-way street here.
Well, you would be wrong about those points, and the fact that you even thought that most matched up to things I said merely indicates to me that you don't like reading my posts. At all. Selective literacy strikes again.
Since I have things like a job and other projects too numerous to name, I won't bother giving you an Unsane Party manifesto. I don't have the time. So don't be lazy, go back on NB and read some of my posts on all sorts of topics. You might learn something.
Besides...why not tell us all what YOU think for a change instead of just saying "hey guys, I got this from ___. What do you think, huh???"
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
You know, you've given this
May 8, 2007 - 07:09 ET by WhichWingYou know, you've given this tired old argument a number of times already. If you don't want to answer that's fine. I assume you agree with all 17 points, and said so in the post. If you don't feel the need to say otherwise, that's fine. If you want to disagree with 1, 2, 3 or even all 17 points, that's fine too. I respond to all your posts that are directed at me. Also, your questions are hypothetical, whereas this one was fairly straight forward. And to the this straight forward question, your first reply was "What's with the anti-Semitism?" What anti-Semitism?
By the way, a good way to start a conversation is to ask what someone thinks of something. If you would of answered, we could have continued on in the conversation by me asking why you agree or disagree with a given point and I could of offered my own thoughts on it.
The term "neo-conservati
May 9, 2007 - 06:14 ET by UnsaneThe term "neo-conservative" can and has been interpreted to mean one is Jewish.
Now, thumb through some of my postings on the forum and elsewhere. My political principles are not a secret on NB. And unlike you I am not ashamed of them. (I just lack the time to condense them into a nice, neat little package for you or anyone else.)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I have never heard the term
May 9, 2007 - 06:50 ET by WhichWingI have never heard the term neo-conservative being used to in the manner you describe.
I thought the 17 points condensed your thoughts into a nice, neat little package. Or do you disagree with some of them? Oh, and just because you disagree with me and my opinions does not mean that I am ashamed of them. In fact, by refusing to state whether or not you agree with the points posted above, I am inclined to believe that you are ashamed of your political principles.
Pleading ignorance doesn't ma
May 9, 2007 - 07:07 ET by UnsanePleading ignorance doesn't make the definition go away.
I don't think the 17 points condenses...anything...into a nice, neat little package.
You can be inclined to believe I am ashamed of my political principles (believe what you want, no matter how ridiculous the belief), but then you'd have to explain why I have been at it here on NB since March 2006. I, in fact, KNOW you are ashamed of your political principles, as you don't come out with them, or just quote other people (and then when called on it, you whine that you quoted someone else...) who I can only guess do your thinking for you.
In that time, I have left behind quite the electronic trail which lays out quite blatantly my political principles. You just don't want to do the work you claim to do. You will have to READ them just like everyone else does.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
So....do you agree or disag
May 9, 2007 - 07:16 ET by WhichWingSo....do you agree or disagree with some or all of the 17 points? (I hope that by asking you that question repeatedly, you will answer it.) When I quote someone, and then you attribute the quote to me, I shouldn't correct you? I've been involved with some very long threads, I think my political principles must have been put out there at some point.
If you want to use the term "neo-conservative" to mean Jewish, then you go right ahead and do it. And while you're at it, you can use the term "gay" to mean happy.
Instead of sending people on a wild goose hunt everytime someone asks you a question, why not just answer it? (God, I hope the answer to that question isn't buried somewhere in the forums.)
Lets face it, which, unsane w
May 9, 2007 - 22:43 ET byLets face it, which, unsane will never admit to sharing this philosophy. He feels that as long as he ask questions but never answers, he's won.
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
This, from one who not only n
May 9, 2007 - 23:02 ET by UnsaneThis, from one who not only never answers questions, but never back up his assertions, and throws a tantrum when called upon to back his assertions.
My political principles are on full display here at NB. Go read my posts, and stop beng so damn lazy.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
ok, then answer which's quest
May 9, 2007 - 23:07 ET byok, then answer which's question,u!
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Why, and reward his laziness,
May 9, 2007 - 23:11 ET by UnsaneWhy, and reward his laziness, and yours?
Maybe one day when I have less to do in an average day, I will write out the Unsane Party Manifesto and share it with ALL the NBers. But until that day...you kids are stuck with good old fashioned reading.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
You are in luck, my friend.
May 9, 2007 - 23:17 ET by WhichWingYou are in luck, my friend. The Unsane Party Manifesto has already been put together, and you can find it by just scrolling up.
Nope. I have never authored
May 9, 2007 - 23:21 ET by UnsaneNope. I have never authored my Party Manifesto. Isn't it amazing how being lazy actually consumes more time than would be necessary to actually accomplish the work? You are living proof of that.
I won't hand you everything on a silver platter as you demand. Go work for it. I had to.
Now, run along, child, and do some research. And not just on what Ron Paul tells you to think.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Isn't it amazing that this
May 9, 2007 - 23:41 ET by WhichWingIsn't it amazing that this thread is almost 2 weeks old, and you've responded almost 20 times without answering to whether or not you agree or disagree with some or all of the 17 points posted.
And then you'll say this:
Isn't it amazing how being lazy actually consumes more time than would
be necessary to actually accomplish the work? You are living proof of
that.
Isn't it amazing that you had
May 10, 2007 - 00:07 ET by UnsaneIsn't it amazing that you had all that time to find the answers yourself, yet still whine for me to serve it all to you on a silver platter?
Run along and do some reading for a change. The more you type, the less time you have to read and think about what I have said...
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
dodge (verb) - to elude or
May 10, 2007 - 00:35 ET by WhichWingdodge (verb) - to elude or evade by a sudden shift of position or by strategy: to dodge a blow; to dodge a question.
Completing the definition of "dodge"
May 10, 2007 - 00:50 ET by Unsane...q.v. WhichWing (see picture)
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Instead of sending people on
May 9, 2007 - 23:07 ET by UnsaneInstead of sending people on a wild goose hunt everytime someone asks you a question, why not just answer it? I think the same damn thing whenever I ask you or other Leftists questions. Why should I, therefore, answer anyone else's questions?
Simple. You are too lazy to read my past posts here, and even then, you see what you WANT to see and read what you WANT to read. There's yet another outstanding reason not to answer your questions. Why do your homework for you?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I think the same damn thing w
May 12, 2007 - 19:12 ET byI think the same damn thing whenever I ask you or other Leftists questions. Why should I, therefore, answer anyone else's questions
u wont answer so I wont!nah, nah
What is the emotional maturity of this blog? We need to ask "neutral" observers what they would rate the childishness of this site.
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Montana Lyons
May 12, 2007 - 19:18 ET by Free StinkerMontana, I find it funny that you never responded: do you get easily confused by facts?
Free Stinker Says:
May 2, 2007 - 23:02
Too easy! Now it's your turn Montana Moonbat. You cite something credible.
How about these sources? CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and the United Nations
And before you say "The WMDs were degraded" just like the talking points tell you to, read the UN report.
A free press is one of the fi
May 12, 2007 - 19:32 ET byA free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
1. "May be pre-Gulf War leftover “I think all of us have known that because of the sheer volume of artillery [containing agents like sarin that were in the Iraqi arsenal prior to the Gulf War] ... that there were likely to be some of these still around Iraq,” he told MSNBC TV. “But [the discovery] doesn't speak to the issue of whether weapons of mass destruction were still being produced in Iraq in the mid-1990s.” "
do I get confused ???? with the administration's spin on the facts and how well they can change our reality with their own manufactured history of whats been going on the last decade??
sure, Im sure many Russians are confused with the facts that their country spews out!
we have to go overseas to find the facts instead of right biased media inundating us every day.
That Free Press you speak of, Libs in the MSM are killing it!
May 12, 2007 - 19:36 ET by Free StinkerWhether or not he Saddam was *producing* them, he still *had* them and wasn't allowed to . . .
Now, your talking points say you should respond with "The WMD's were degraded" . . . (just ignore the UN report)
2."The former top U.S. w
May 12, 2007 - 19:37 ET by2."The former top U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq, David Kay, said it was possible the shell was an old relic overlooked when Saddam said he had destroyed such weapons in the mid-1990s"
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
"possible". Tha
May 12, 2007 - 19:44 ET by Free Stinker"possible". That's one guy's opinion . . . former . . .
Possible is also know as "a weasel word"
3."Iraq used chemical we
May 12, 2007 - 19:41 ET by3."Iraq used chemical weapons in its 1980-88 war with Iran and to put down a Kurdish uprising against Saddam in 1988. Baghdad admitted to the United Nations in 1990 that it had built some artillery shells to carry sarin -- prototypes that it insisted had all been destroyed during testing."
Then why didn't they just s
May 12, 2007 - 19:46 ET by Free StinkerThen why didn't they just show the documnetation that these were used or destroyed?
They kept a lot of documentation, BTW. You can see translations of it at Free Republic
""The above fo
May 12, 2007 - 19:45 ET by""The above form the United Nations inspectors and the darling of the Left Hans Blix totally destroy the stupid lies that the Left and their media has been spewing since the breakings new of yesterday. First the UN clearly state in March 2003 that the Mustard gas shells they found are of HIGH QUALITY even it had been STORED FOR OVER 12 YEARS. Second the UN admit that there may still VIABLE i.e. EFFECTIVE Mustrad filled artillery shell hidden in Iraq, and yesterday we learned for a fact that there were indeed 500 Mustard gas artillery shells that were found in Iraq since the removal of Saddam. Also it is safe to conclude that the Mustard Gas shells found after the war are still in high quality and highly effective Chemical weapons""
and this is from the Free Republic??
"lets manufacture some more facts so we can go to war!"
Hey, whats wrong with helping the oil companies and our military industrial complex?? Its the new american way!
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Montana, Free Republic was quoting a United Nations report!
May 12, 2007 - 19:49 ET by Free StinkerMontana, you are still not paying attention.
Free Republic was quoting from THE UNITED NATIONS REPORT.
Now I know you are eaither just Trolling, or blind to any facts contrary to what you are told to think by DU or DuhlyKos
Now I know you are eaither ju
May 12, 2007 - 19:54 ET byNow I know you are eaither just Trolling, or blind to any facts contrary to what you are told to think by DU or DuhlyKos
whos trolling??- I wondered when "trollish behaVIOR" would start.
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
Have fun while you're busy
May 12, 2007 - 19:58 ET by Free StinkerHave fun while you're busy ignoring the UN report.
"Welcome to Free Republi
May 12, 2007 - 19:56 ET by"Welcome to Free Republic!
Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah! "
"Free Republic has been rallying in support of our President and the war effort since shortly after the terrorist attack on America on September 11, 2001. Later, as the inevitable war against Iraq drew closer, more and more of the "useful idiots" of the left began crawling out of the woodwork organizing so-called "anti-war" protests"
ok. this site is not at all biased.Why not get your facts from the daily Kos which I never go to.??
I always get a chuckle from this blog! I will let stinker have the last word!
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
didn't they just show the doc
May 12, 2007 - 19:52 ET bydidn't they just show the documnetation that these were used or destroyed
How about about documnetation why we really went to war??
A free press is one of the first things to go in a totalitarian government. Montana Lyons
I happen to think my policy o
May 15, 2007 - 04:27 ET by UnsaneI h