It is none of my damn business who was or was not involved in the firing. Nor yours. I do not know if the WH or AG lied because it is not an issue with me, only with those who chose to make an issue of something that is NO ONE'S business except the White House. Do you understand where I am coming from.

If not--you are the confyused one. This is my last post on this issue. I have staye dout of until tonight because I deemed it to be a non-issue. People like you are making it an issue. IT IS NONEOF YOUR BUSINESS NOR PELOSI's.

shawn228 - I read the democrats asked Gonzales if he was CLOSELY INVOLVED with the firings.

He said, no he wasn't.

 That of course, with selective liberal dem liar memory, has turned into " Gonzales lied".

 " I knew Sampson was working on the firings, that's about the extent to which I was involved."

 Then the democrats claim that is lie, because of a meeting that took place. ONE MEETING, where presumably 100 things were discussed, firings of course being nowhere at the top of the list.

 Then there's a complaint that Gonzales signed a paper okaying the firings. Which, the democrats never tell you - IS THE LAW AND HE MUST DO THAT.

 You know, I quite understand there is nothing here, even after hearing all the lies the democrats told me so far, which they create, in order to claim someone else lied.

 The democrats will try control the information like book burning nazis, make false accusations with just the right worded inflections, as if they were in the courtroom whipping up liberal Jerry Springer show gagglers into an emotional frenzy, then they will waddle off proud of how well they lied to the American public.

 It really is amazing. Well, most them were or are lawyers, and it appears there is a societal wide "understanding and agreement" that decisions are to be based on " how many emotion provoking lies and half truths you can use to whip up the public into a careening off the road in a frenzied witch hunt and false conclusion."

 Of course the above is true, with the liberal doctine of "it's only your viewpoint that is true, and only to you". That's why "sequestered juries" are so important, and the lawyers tied right in with congress constantly argue for a change of venue, and the judges demand the jury members completely ban themselves utterly from any news or press or any other information.

 Frankly, it is in my opinion quite a dangerous lesson already. We have so many jackassed idiots all over the place in general, that a jury of your peers cannot be trusted in this modern day and age to know facts from fiction and fantasy and lies. The law itself now demands they be entirely protected from the very liars(WaPo) that David Obey the democrat claims 2/3rds of congress used to vote for the war, when in fact he may have done that, but has no proof whatsoever all 2/3rds of congress voting yea did, and loads of evidence to prove otherwise.

 So, the truth is, if you are still too dumb to guage what is going on, you are one of the reasons for the jury of your peers being banned from public knowledge in trials, and part and parcel of the reason for the insane "selection process", and the "move of venue" so popular in big cases.

 After watching Waxman play his word game that Toensing destroyed, as she carefully played catch the lying word games of Waxman and respond making it fully clear that she was instantly aware of the game Waxman was playing, and Valerie Plame herself claim in her hearing that she herself is not a lawyer and has no idea what her status concerning "covert" was, anything is possible from lying democrats. I'm still stunned.

 It's no wonder Al Gore got near all the science wrong. I watched him lie and get caught repeatedly in his recent hearing. Thank you Senator from Idaho, who was so on top of everything, he caught Al Gore feigning a face of bewilderment about his own DOE zeroing of the nuclear budget. Now that's what I call " sending a message".

 This site stands up to liberal liars in the newscasts. That's why I cherish and honor and respect it. When will liberals give up their near constant lying ? No time soon, obviously. Someone needs to stand up and point it out, a lot more often, and jam it down their lying throats, in front of everyone, and make it stick. I do get it. Tell lies for an emotional reaction,and craft your words carefully when doing so. When you have enough of the lib crowd whipped into a frenzy, you can saypretty much anything, and they will all scream and repeat in unison,and help with every line of crap you spew, like "closely" is the same as "not at all" and therefore " Gonzales lied and needs to step down".

 Just like " British government reported" and " attempted to acquire" is the same as > " Bush lied because one person who can't possibly know claimed he never got a shipment from his mining minister FRIEND."

 It's amazing to me how much you democrats and liberals lie. It's quite an accomplishment.

It seems to me, from what I have read and heard, that the President is on solid ground here in saying his advisors will not testify in public, under oath.

If the Senate does issue the subpoenas for Rove and Miers, then the administration should probably move to squash the subpoenas, all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. The President must move to preserve executive privelege. The demos, and all Senators, considering their numbers inclined to run for President, should herald the administration for moving to preserve this basic tenet - lest they at some time in the future find themselves falling victim to their own actions of eroding the executive.

Except, for demos, it's executive privilege for me, but not for thee.

Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

Leftists are never known for their accuracy of quoting people.  I said that they are going NOWHERE.  As in not making any advancements or strides.  They MAY not be in decline (yet), but I would rather the United States make great advancements and strides, instead of shooting for mediocrity or mere existence, as you would prefer.   

As for the Netherlands having a lower crime rate than the United States, I have a better solution for that: arming the population via things like concealed handgun permits and the like, not by telling the citizenry that it's 100% OK to go throw away their lives.

Besides, the last time I checked, Zürich's (yeah, I know, that's Switzerland, a land where crime is rare, but that is due to the fact that every home is armed and every male is required by law to own one of two types of firearms) little "Needle Park" experiment of the 1990s didn't work out very well for them.

By keeping drugs criminalized, you reduce their usage by the population and protect society.  Be happy that the United States really can't take the approaches of Thailand, Malaysia or Indonesia concerning drug use/smuggling.

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)