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I can't believe I missed th
March 7, 2007 - 11:59 ET by sarcasmoI can't believe I missed this voter guide, but in addition to who came in first (of course) and who came in last (hilarious!) this explains why the TV section of the news media, as I keep-saying, is biased against certain ideas, where "certain ideas" means "the competition for eyeballs." IMO this explains some of the bias we've seen against this candidate.
JMR
This bears repeating
March 7, 2007 - 12:05 ET by Six String SpiffIf the NYT HQ was attacked by terrorists, along with NBC, CNN, and CBS I think Americans might finally get an unbiased view of how dangerous radical Islam is to our very existence and thus SAVE OUR LIVES. I mean, Im not WISHING this to happen. But if it did, I think alot of people might have felt differently about HOW we are executing this war. For instance, not having a media who dangerously abuses their 1st ammendment. If those organizations were obliterated -- yeah it would be a TERRIBLE loss of life, but I think the citizens of this country would get a better chance of victory in this very real fight to the death with these terrorists. Not that I am wishing ANYTHING bad happen to the aforementioned organizations...
Im covered right? Mahar.. What say you?
Sure, I watch the MSM... Through a pair of crosshairs.
Shrillary's Pandering
March 7, 2007 - 12:18 ET by emjem24Here's some questions I have regarding Shrillary's candidacy for president:
Why does Shrillary feel the need to affect a Southern accent while at a church in Selema, AL? Can't she stand on her own Illinoisan/Arkansasan/New Yorker feet? Will she make up her mind who she is?
Why does Shrillary feel the need to criticize social conservatives in front of gays when her own husband Bill signed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 saying that the own true marriage is between man and woman? What about that "don't ask, don't tell" policy that ole Bill supported?
If gays really want to point the finger of blame for why they have no acceptance or no traction in this country, why don't they blame their favorite panderers, liberals like Bill and Shrillary?
These are some questions that to me this woman can't either fathom or answer. Talk amongst yourselves.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
Bush is failing us as a lea
March 7, 2007 - 12:47 ET by jiminjerseyBush is failing us as a leader. He just doesn't know how to make a decision. Add to the list of porr decision his recent appointment of Donna Shalala to work with Bob Dole to get to the bottom of the conditions at Walter Reed is a joke. Nothing like giving the keys to your house to somebody who wants to rip your throat out. This is up there with Vernon Davis and Panetta on the Iraq Study Group.
The same justice department let Sandy Berger get away with stealing classified documents decided that there was just no way they could let Scooter Libby get away with lying to the FBI. Unbelievable.
Grant amnesty and voting rights to 20 million illegal immigrants and there will never be another Republican President. They will vote for those that provide them with their entitlements.
The Republican Party needs an "Extreme Makeover".
Look under your bed, Jim
March 7, 2007 - 13:20 ET by tumbler_2007Might be a monster hiding under your bed, jiminjersey; watch out.
A look at Walter Reed is useful; with both a Democrat and a Republican reporting back to the highest authority, Bush himself. Leaders are not to be taken as a joke; let's get the ball rolling at least.
As for your snide remark about amnesty for illegal immigrants:
I find it improbable there would be 20 million at all; much less registering as Democrats. I also wonder why you leap at the old jugular vein, "entitlements"--? Many decent and upright Republicans will immediately protest if their entitlements are put to question. That's a non-starter.
My feeling is, our own Republican race-baiting Mexico-haters need the extreme makeover. We should've learned a lesson last November, when our congressional majority slipped away. We desperately NEED a share in our growing Mexican-American/Hispanic voting bloc. We must come around to reality and cultivate good will between our battered party and Spanish-speaking voters. Instead of driving them into Nancy Pelosi's arms. If it takes this amnesty that chills your blood, then back it by all means.
You either do, or you squander our chances of attracting new hispanic voters into the GOP. Remember, Jim; I said REALITY. REALLY !
You are nuts Shalala is a
March 7, 2007 - 13:36 ET by jiminjerseyYou are nuts Shalala is a joke. I have no problem with a bipartisan investigation. Shalala has no intention of being bipartisan. This is the same as putting Vernon Jordan and Leon Panetta on the Iraq study group.
I never, ever mentioned race. Two of my grandparents were both LEGAL immigrants. I live among many illegal immigrants. They are very nice, hard working individuals. However, they are lawbreakers. Why are they entitled to the same social programs that American citizens are entitled to?
I went to the hospital recently. It was full of illegal immigrants. Here they use the emergency room for the primary car physician. Do you have any idea how much that costs?
New Jersey has the highest property taxes in the country, our state budget is $35B, 25% higher than our neighbor Pensylvania and we spend about $11K to educate each child. Illegal immigrants are flocking here because of the extraordinary number entitlements we provide to them. We set up work centers so the day laborers don't have to stay on the street corner and beginning next year it is MANDATORY that SPANISH be taught to every child in New Jersey beginning in 1st grade.. If we don't stop handing out entitle
We lost the majority in November because we have no leadership. Conservative Democrats won. Not liberals. The election was not a referendum against conservatism. It was a referendum against the current state of the Republican party.T
calm down, jiminjersey
March 7, 2007 - 14:49 ET by tumbler_2007You assume the hospital is full of illegal immigrants. You didn't ask for IDs, did you? (But they looked illegal. Haha!) Go on: "Why are they entitled to the same social programs that American citizens are entitled to?" Nobody says they are. I only said there aren't "20 million" of them, nor would all of them register as Democrats just because you're incensed at them.
As for the mandatory Spanish, we know these are liberal moves, and not illegal alien moves or demands. Let me state here that Jersey and Philly's state budgets are irrelevant in this discussion. You won't lower the costs in NJ by deporting every single illegal immigrant in the state. Your state's tax structure has always been scandalous, don't blame the dishwashers and busboys of your city. They HAVE NOT "flocked there" to take over the state's entitlements. They MAY look for jobs there, unbeknownst to you.
This is the usual biased, racially charged BS always heard from our intolerant hard-line Mexico-bashing bigots. You can't prove a damn word of your opinions.
We lost our congressional majorities in various states by VERY narrow margins. If enough Spanish-speaking people had helped us, we would have kept it a Republican majority.
I'm NOT making that up! What happens is, the braying and bleating from your quarter was perceived as GOP racism in full view. This isn't rocket science, Jim. Many voters who are basically conservative chose to stay home & not vote at all. Others went over to the Left; not for entitlements, but to tell people like YOU-- "Sit on it, Racist." I can't really blame them. They see the hate speech, They hear the clamor for a FENCE, by Republicans of your stripe. It's hateful. DON'T bother to prolong this argument, please. We'll agree to disagree.
I'm butting in again, in defe
March 7, 2007 - 15:16 ET by FastEdI'm butting in again, in defense of my fellow Garden Stater, - again with the racisim throw - why do you keep defending the Lawbreaking Immigrants?
And, very tipically, NOWHERE did he mention mixican workers, so clean you glasses.
And, lose the WE in your responses, nobody here accepts you as one of them.
And, what PROOF do YOU have that spanish speaking people would have helped - they don't or can't vote! Then to say theat Jersey and Philly are irrelevant is proof that you are irrelevant - Lawbreaking Immigrants ARE sapping tax-payer resources at the cost of people who have actually contibuted. Lawbreaking Immigrants DON'T contribute to the tax monies that help pay for these services.
I ask again, not expecting an answer, but is the problem with Lawbreaking Immigrants a cultural or educational problem?
Once againa racist rant without proof. This one's for Blonde - TROLL!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
your dad was right
March 7, 2007 - 16:10 ET by tumbler_2007You keep proving you're stupid, Fast Ed.
I'm indifferent altogether to your rants. We know you don't understand English, much less my reasoning. You still claim I'm in favor of illegal immigration. You muddy the waters is all. WE is correct. We are discussing something not very well understood; particularly by idiots like Fast Ed. -- I did not "defend" anybody. I corrected a misconception widely held by some intolerant Republicans. Jiminjersey's misconception is that illegal aliens in our country don't pay taxes. THEY CERTAINLY DO, --Another one, that I maintain they're going to vote, one way or another. I don't.
I'm just referring to the Spanish-speaking American citizens who see you for a flagrant Mexico-basher and bigot. THEY VOTE, Dummy!
Then, the misperception that I'm a troll. But I'm not. --I'm a reasonable, thinking, right-of center American of hispanic descent. And I only react unfavorably seeing stupid people denigrating the people of Mexico. Calling them law-breakers is one thing. But to say these poor people come here only to "sap tax-payers resources," or to swamp our rightful "entitlements" is simply Bullsh1t. You're among the worst bull-sh1tters in this camp, Ed. Not very bright, either.
Ahem
March 7, 2007 - 16:26 ET by RJTroll
"You either do, or you
March 7, 2007 - 17:12 ET by ckc1227"You either do, or you squander our chances of attracting new hispanic voters into the GOP. Remember, Jim; I said REALITY. REALLY !"
You wouldn't know reality if it bit you in the ass. The fact that you keep spewing the tired nonsense that we lost in November because Hispanics were allegedly alienated is more than enough proof that you are clueless. The fact that you are STILL unable to distinguish between race-hating-baiting and respect for the laws of this country merely seals the deal.
Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes. 12 million illegal immigrants are counting on you.
ckookyc127 rebutted:
March 7, 2007 - 18:10 ET by tumbler_2007I do see the reality. Bashers don't want hispanics or Mexican Americans joining the Republican Party. What I've said here about November's mid-term loss for our party is REALITY; and none other than Dick Morris said it as well as the Lib Geraldo Rivera. In almost exactly my words. But you find it clueless.
I'll remind you that GOPs losing margins in several of our lost states were super-thin. We narrowly lost George Allen, in fact. Just a handful of Hispanic and Mexican-American conservative voters would have saved our best candidate for the presidency. But the bigots and fence-builders had better plans. Talk about clueless.
Correction. Republicans do
March 7, 2007 - 18:13 ET by NL207Correction. Republicans do not want ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS joining the Republican party. Nobody gives a S*** where they came from except you.
correction: Republicans like you
March 7, 2007 - 18:21 ET by tumbler_2007Idiots can afford to be bigoted when the truth is in their face.
You have no interest in keeping this minority voting bloc within reach of our party. Your hatred is self-destructive; because above jimmyin jersey stated we would never again have a Republican president; and you don't care. Considering the Mexican-American/Hispanic vote consists almost 90% of conservatives. They have no call to become Democrats. Racist idiots caused them to go leftwards. Idiots like NL207; certifiably stuck on stupid.
If the Hispanic vote were 90%
March 7, 2007 - 18:27 ET by NL207If the Hispanic vote were 90% conservative, then tell me why the Democrats carried 69% of latino votes in the 2006 election?
Don't ever call me a racist again. I don't take trash like that from people who advocate wholsale violation of US sovreignty and then call themselves 'patriot' and 'conservative'. Those people have another name: hypocrite.
answer: NL207
March 7, 2007 - 18:43 ET by tumbler_2007"If the Hispanic vote were 90% conservative, then tell me why the Democrats carried 69% of latino votes in the 2006 election?"
I'm not referring to the "vote", Moron. I mean the people you denigrate and treat as worthless.
Family values: conservative.
Gays agenda-- conservative 100%
Armed forces: conservative
Tax cuts, at least 50% conservative. (A conservative estimate)
School vouchers 100% conservative
Faith & religion, conservative, Catholics
Abortion, super-conservative-- Pro Life
Affirmative action, --Liberal
You deserve to be called a racist. You spread hatred against a minority that has no voice here. That's called a CHEAP SHOT, and I don't give cheap shots, I call you what you ACT like. The way you act and the attitude you demonstrate everywhere in the area of illegal immigration (bigotry, lying & hate speech) is precisely why Latin voters believe smears coming from the Left; that we, Republicans-- are racists. This has nothing really to do with law or our sovereinty. It's the IMAGE we present to AMERICANS of Mexican and hispanic descent. It's costing us an entire, legal voting bloc! Your stupidity!
I said Americans; just as good if not better than YOU.
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Troll
March 7, 2007 - 18:49 ET by RJTroll
All you give are cheap shots
March 7, 2007 - 18:51 ET by James2306All you give are cheap shots NO ONE here can say anything about illegal immigration without having you call them a racist, a little projection problem there.
wait a minute james
March 7, 2007 - 19:05 ET by tumbler_2007You CAN say what you like; just don't LIE. Just don't mislead and paper over your mistakes. I've been totally fair.
Those who squawk the most are the racists. Did you ever meet a racist who would calmly say, OK, I'm a racist? They don't like to be confronted with it.
But they won't back down on their white supremacy either. It's always the "other" who is wrong. Not on this one, Pal. -- I don't expect racists to admit their faults. Hatred is the evidence, they drip with it. They're always consumed with anger & hatred. And they always want to fight. NEVER do they try to make peace.
Troll
March 7, 2007 - 19:09 ET by RJTroll
Careful, RJ.He'll be calling
March 7, 2007 - 19:15 ET by BlondeCareful, RJ.
He'll be calling you a brown-shirted, jack-booted Nazi racist soon.
wait a minute james
March 7, 2007 - 19:05 ET by tumbler_2007You CAN say what you like; just don't LIE. Just don't mislead and paper over your mistakes. I've been totally fair.
Those who squawk the most are the racists. Did you ever meet a racist who would calmly say, OK, I'm a racist? They don't like to be confronted with it.
But they won't back down on their white supremacy either. It's always the "other" who is wrong. Not on this one, Pal. -- I don't expect racists to admit their faults. Hatred is the evidence, they drip with it. They're always consumed with anger & hatred. And they always want to fight. NEVER do they try to make peace.
Ok Tumbler, let's try it your
March 7, 2007 - 19:29 ET by Clear thinkerOk Tumbler, let's try it your way...
I would like to gently escort all illegals back across the border and ask them to kindly stay home.
You sir, are a # 1 jerk!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Sometimes it is best just to
March 7, 2007 - 19:31 ET by NL207Sometimes it is best just to ignore El Guapo.
another thought from clear
March 7, 2007 - 19:40 ET by tumbler_2007Here's another clear thought, supposedly from a clear (vacant) mind?
You and I are powerless to deport anybody. Even if we did, they'd find a way to come back. They "kindly" would, my unclear Pal.
I don't advocate either their illegal entry nor a change in the immigration statutes. Violaters should be caught, deported, and if they return, given jail sentences after the 2nd violation. My idea, therefore practical and wise. Har har.
Meanwhile, deporting from 7 to 12 million already established here; many with kids and financial obligations --is virtually impossible. But; no matter what we do about them, they should not be demonized as an ethnic group. They're individuals. Some are good and should be helped to legalize themselves. Some are bad. Deport them. Is there anything else you need for the immediate future, clearie? Just ask.
There is one other thing you
March 7, 2007 - 19:47 ET by Clear thinkerThere is one other thing you could do for me... how about sending me your membership card to the Socialist Party so I can burn it for you!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
"Idiots can afford to be
March 8, 2007 - 15:07 ET by MikeB"Idiots can afford to be bigoted when the truth in in their face." And, how well you prove that, tumbler. Once again, it is not racist to require all immigrants to enter the country legally, nor is it racist to try to secure our borders not only from illegal immigrants, but from jihadists who are coming into our country across our southern border.
Apparently you were telling the truth when you told us once you are "old and stupid", so once again, just for you, tumbler: racist is not wanting all illegal aliens, whether of Mexican origin or not, to be deported and prevented from re-entering this country. Racist would be wanting all hispanics, whether citizens or not to be deported to Mexico.
Any immigrant who comes here legally and earns citizenship is welcome to join whatever political party they wish, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Reform, Green, Communist (redundant with Democrat), or whatever. If someone is bent out of shape because Republicans insist on immigrants obeying our laws, tough. Actually, I haven't noticed the Republican leadership exercising leadership in shutting down illegal immigration, only lip service.
And, yes, I fully expect your knee-jerk reaction of name calling. If anyone presents you with unwelcome facts, links, or sources, you immediately fall back on the racist, white supremacist, hate speech, bozo or bimbo spew you always do. You are just like global warming fear mongers in that regard.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
NL,Not to mention the fact th
March 7, 2007 - 18:22 ET by BlondeNL,
Not to mention the fact that illegal immigrants can't vote (yet!).
I am supremely sick and tired of this illegal immigrant rant.
What makes you think they do
March 7, 2007 - 19:23 ET by NL207What makes you think they do not vote now? Only 10 of 50 states require proof of citizenship to register to vote and several liberal cities make no secret of the fact they will enroll non-citizen voters for local elections.
Precisely.I was thinking of C
March 7, 2007 - 19:28 ET by BlondePrecisely.
I was thinking of California as I wrote the above.
Which is why I am so against "motor voter" laws.
What can we collectively be thinking (or not?).
This is disgraceful.
no they do NOT vote.
March 7, 2007 - 19:31 ET by tumbler_2007Sorry to disappoint ya, NL.
You really ARE stuck on stupid, Hmmmm?
NL207...If tumbler is such a
March 7, 2007 - 19:31 ET by Clear thinkerNL207...
If tumbler is such a patriot, I wonder how he feels about illegals voting in our country?
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
You've got your answer above!
March 7, 2007 - 19:33 ET by NL207You've got your answer above! They don't vote!
El Guapo has spoken!
sure; we just expect them to vote
March 7, 2007 - 20:01 ET by tumbler_2007We just expect them to vote, from our bigoted point of view. After all, illegal aliens can do no good.
Myself, I can't be worrying about mythical voters. --I keep thinking of all the legal voters youz guys palmed off on Plastic Nan from San Fran. You thought they were expendable. (They speak Spanish and eat beans.)
I really am a patriot
March 7, 2007 - 20:18 ET by tumbler_2007I'm an American patriot.
I love my country. I desire the best for America; so much that I hate those who give her a bad face. Above all those Democrats in power who enable the extinction of our American citizens while still in the womb. Before long the only ones bearing children in this country will be a scattered few of our anglo-American population, led by mostly hispanics and Mexican-Americans who maintain their Catholic faith, and --yup; families of middle eastern descent. (Ominous thought.) Babies are endangered in our society.
I hate those who push drugs, because I'm a patriot. Drugs are destroying this country. I hate as well, those who break God's commandments and then scoff; haters and dividers and hypocrites. Many are found in Hollywood today. I've come to hate Hollywood. I'm a conservative American and a patriot, Clearie-O.
Bush is failing us as a lea
March 7, 2007 - 13:36 ET by Dave RBush is failing us as a leader.
And then some.
No, I'm not High. :-)
Yes, our President is faili
March 7, 2007 - 14:04 ET by Tim the EnchanterYes, our President is failing us by not recognizing that he does NOT have a "loyal opposition". His opponents are not loyal to America- they are loyal to their lust for power. Mr. President, you're going to a gunfight with a knife- and a butter knife, at that. Wish he was able to channel Ronald Reagan.
Tim...You make an excellent p
March 7, 2007 - 16:39 ET by Clear thinkerTim...
You make an excellent point IMO.
I'm going to look at our next presidential players and decide who of the bunch will be willing to come to a gunfight with a tank and an attitude!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Is This In Response To My Comment?
March 7, 2007 - 16:26 ET by emjem24Jim...
How is any of your statement in reference to what I said? This is about Hilary Clinton (a bad choice for leader of the free world) not about Pres. Bush.
If you're going to respond to me...please put it into the context of a response...not going off in a tangent about how unfavorable you find Pres. Bush as a leader.
You, sir, as a member of this blog, are disappointing. You want to be taken seriously on this site, start acting like it. Open your own dialogue and don't go off topic or pick fights in response to mine!
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
There are some fascinating do
March 7, 2007 - 12:23 ET by j. frank wilsonThere are some fascinating documents from the Scooter LIbby trail available at:
www.npr.or
I highly recommend these to anyone seriously interested in this matter.
I am seriously interested. Wh
March 7, 2007 - 12:35 ET by tracheostomyI am seriously interested. Which documents do you want to follow in particular?
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
I'm waiting. . .Or are you ju
March 7, 2007 - 12:59 ET by tracheostomyI'm waiting. . .
Or are you just spamming for NPR?
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
What are you waiting for (all
March 7, 2007 - 13:13 ET by j. frank wilsonWhat are you waiting for (all of 24 minutes)? Your post doesn't make sense.
NPR has done a public service by making readily available half a dozen documents from the Libby trial. I found them most interesting and passed along the link - my post didn't offer any opinion (pro- or con- Mr. Libby). And there isn't anything to "follow." The documents speak for themselves.
Are you afraid to go to the site and check them out for yourself? Don't worry. Unlike Sheer Insanity or Bull O'Really? or even ole BlunderRush - NPR doesn't charge a small fortune to join the club. It's free!
Yep, waited that long. You th
March 7, 2007 - 13:20 ET by tracheostomyYep, waited that long. You throw out an incomplete link, saying how "fascinating" it is, yet you fail to follow up on specifics.
1. Why do you find them so interesting? The documents do not follow without additional context. . .or opinion from yourself.
2. I looked at them. How do these documents relate specifically? What are you trying to sell me, J? Your mere "fascination" with it all, and nothing else? Why are you so vaguely enamoured with these documents? Why do you want me to feel the same emotional reaction you are feeling?
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
Most NB posts are opinions, w
March 7, 2007 - 13:33 ET by j. frank wilsonMost NB posts are opinions, wild and reckless claims, right wing mythology - not facts.
NPR has made widely available facts - documents from the case. I find them fascinating because one can read some of the documentary evidence and draw one's own conclusions about the case.
I'm not trying to sell you anything. If you prefer to swallow pre-formed opinions and points of view, BlunderRush is probably blathering right now. Isn't he the one who tells his listeners "don't read the papers over the weekend; listen to me on Monday and I'll tell you what to think."
You wouldn't know a fact if i
March 7, 2007 - 13:41 ET by mattmYou wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit you in your pansy ass.
NPR is nothing more than a ta
March 7, 2007 - 13:46 ET by NL207NPR is nothing more than a taxpayer funded propaganda organ. They have no more, and probably even less, credibility than any other "journalistic" source. We have seen what king of journalism Reuters, AP, and CBS have been doing lately. There is no reason to believe that the "journalists" employed by NPR and educated at the same schools as those employed by these other organizations will behave in any different fashion. In fact, at least one survey has shown that they operate on the same liberal slant as the rest of the alphabet news.
NPR = National Proletariat
March 7, 2007 - 13:51 ET by Dave RNPR = National Proletariat Radio
I wouldn't take NPR's word for a flood if I were standing on the roof of my house up to my neck in water. And I live on the top of a hill!
J. Frank,NO! You're not playi
March 7, 2007 - 14:06 ET by tracheostomyJ. Frank,
NO! You're not playing the least bit fair. You throw a bunch of "fascinating" documents at me; then I read them.
1. What if I "draw a set of conclusions" that are different from yours? Will you just say I'm wrong then? Based on what? Your say so?
2. What if the documents cited are part of a larger context of information not covered by NPR? Can I cite other sources to come to my own conclusion? Or am I only allowed to consult NPR and other allied news sites?
3. Why are you pushing your personal agenda so hard if all conclusions are equally valid?
Isn't there some final conclusion that you want ME to understand that you believe to be the truth? If there isn't, then why are you still talking?
State your case clearly and defend it, or get out. But don't state your case vaguely and then run, or throw a link at us and call it evidence of an undefinable variable.
Because it's widely regarded as "a shell game" on your part.
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
jfw, NPR is NOT free, I pay m
March 7, 2007 - 14:49 ET by upcountrywaterjfw,
NPR is NOT free, I pay my taxes and some of that goes to NPR. I want NO part of NPR, however I'm forced to support them.
You compare a government program with the private sector, where anyone has a CHOICE, something you want no part of, TYPICAL.
Still Dancing In The End Zone
March 7, 2007 - 16:38 ET by emjem24Frank....
Ohhhh...I'm breathless with anticipation. In terms of your offering no "opinion," weren't you the same guy dancing in the end zone about the outcome of the Libby trial? Weren't you ecstatic? Oh, and BTW, it doesn't cost that much to join either club, you're just a freaking cheap skate, liberal, or non-fan, not interested in joining. NPR may be free, but they're no less, BIASED. I don't freaking care if they posted American Idol Antonella pictures, I DON'T CARE.
Please just be honest and admit you have a grudge for not only conservatives but also three men who WILL tell you like it is. You, unfortunately, can't even post a complete link. Give me a break.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
"and BTW, it doesn't c
March 7, 2007 - 17:25 ET by ckc1227"and BTW, it doesn't cost that much to join either club, you're just a freaking cheap skate, liberal, or non-fan, not interested in joining."
He knows if he joined, he might actually be tempted to read what is being said there instead of following the usual practice, which involves a bunch of non-members and non-listeners telling one another what they think these guys said as opposed to actually listening and hearing it for themselves.
Seriously, folks, the fact that he thinks NPR is free should tell you all you need to know about this guy.
Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes. 12 million illegal immigrants are counting on you.
Call to arms
March 7, 2007 - 12:24 ET by DontabWhile I disagree with everything the liberals stand for, I see their willingness to fight tooth and nail for every step of the way to further their cause. Yet we on the conservative side only have spineless politicians, afraid to stand their ground for fear of being disliked or worse. (you fill in the blank). No more Rino's.
I want pols that will not compromise, take no prisoners.
Actually that appears to have
March 7, 2007 - 12:41 ET by j. frank wilsonActually that appears to have been Mr. Cheney's game plan. And it blew up in his face.
"Appears"? Any ev
March 7, 2007 - 12:54 ET by mattm"Appears"? Any evidence for this? I mean other than accusations by proven liars like Joe Wilson and Leftist media propagandists with an agenda...
No sir, it's the Left who operate the way you accuse people like Cheney of doing. The conspiracy is a Wilson-MSM-DNC one, designed to besmirch the administration. Even the venerable Washington Post is admitting that this is a "pointless" scandal.
Although there is a point: Liberals aren't interested in truth or justice, they're only interested in ruthlessly pushing their socialist cause, even if they have to abuse the legal system, and destroy innocent people to do it.
I love the new right wingnut
March 7, 2007 - 13:17 ET by j. frank wilsonI love the new right wingnut accusation "agenda." Number 1, what's wrong with having a goal in life? Number 2, Insanity, O'Really?, falter, BlunderRush, et. al. don't have an "agenda."
As for Mr. Cheney's wild over-reaction to Mr. Wilson's op-ed piece - and no one seems willing to focus on the fact the Vice President's response was completely out of scale to what Mr. Wilson wrote - read the docs:
www.npr.org
PS: Now's it's a "DNC conspiracy?" Just how did the DNC get a Republican Justice Department to move forward?
frank, nothing wrong with an
March 7, 2007 - 13:21 ET by bassndudefrank, nothing wrong with an agenda. I have a few. The death of socialism and communism and those who practice or promote such values is one of those agendas.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
You sir, are an absolute idio
March 7, 2007 - 13:25 ET by mattmYou sir, are an absolute idiot!
An agenda is not a "goal in life".
You have no logic whatsoever! You change the subject, you argue side-issues over semantics, and you continually ignore facts. Which doesn't surprise me - this is typical of dumb-ass Left-Wingnut morons like you.
What a putz!
There's a difference between
March 7, 2007 - 13:29 ET by tracheostomyThere's a difference between "conspiracy" and clever jury selection.
-PJ
"I'm not a theologist. I'm not an archaeologist. I'm a documentary filmmaker." -James Cameron
You sir, are an absolute idio
March 7, 2007 - 13:30 ET by mattm{extra stuff deleted}
As soon as you grow up and start making sense, I'll respond to your next idiotic post.
Ted Kaczynski and Adolph Hitl
March 7, 2007 - 14:12 ET by Roger the ShrubberTed Kaczynski and Adolph Hitler also had "goals in life", too.
No offense, Frankie, but you sound stupid when you post comments like that.
Why is Joe Wilson not on tria
March 7, 2007 - 13:05 ET by BDWhy is Joe Wilson not on trial for fraud?
He reported one thing to the CIA in his report, then perpetrated a fraud by stating that he reported the opposite thing in a piece he wrote for a paper for profit.
Can't wait to see him in a blaze orange jumpsuit....
Mr. Wilson wrote an "op-
March 7, 2007 - 13:21 ET by j. frank wilsonMr. Wilson wrote an "op-ed" piece for The New York Times. Are you claiming he was paid for it? How much?
Why didn't Vice President Cheney just sit back and let the whole thing blow over. A careful reading of Mr. Wilson's op-ed makes it clear he didn't disprove President Bush's State of the Union "16 words."
Of course the CIA did, but that's another story...
Here is the deal.Mr Wilson r
March 7, 2007 - 17:05 ET by BDHere is the deal.
Mr Wilson reported to the CIA that the results of his trip to Africa essentially confirmed that Saddam HAD attempted to gain Yellow Cake Uranium from a source on that continent. The CIA then used that information as part of an analytical work with the understanding that it was presented in good faith by the source dispatched by the agency.
Upon his return, Mr Wilson composed a written document that exactly COUNTERED the report he presented to the CIA, and it was presented in a media source.
IF Wilson purposely presented false information to the CIA, then he performed a fraud against them.
If his later document was false, then he similarly performed a fraud.
In either case, he should lose his security clearance for cause (But hell, we didn't do that to Clinton or Berger.)
Regarding the CIA, if you knew the CIA you would realize that it is the second most liberal of the Intelligence Agencies. It comes from the way it has historically recruited analysts. (For those who are interested the number 1 "Most liberal" Intelligence agency is .....Drum Roll Please.....
Department of State Intelligence.....
BD, please correct me if I'
March 7, 2007 - 17:09 ET by sarcasmoBD, please correct me if I'm wrong, but would not the CIA itself, at a pay-grade higher than Mr. Wilson's, have needed to vet any such article for secret-stuff/accuracy before publication?
JMR
Sadly, apparently the people
March 7, 2007 - 17:19 ET by BDSadly, apparently the people who sent him (Mrs Wilson) did not demand that he sign the obligatory "Non-disclosure Agreement" prior to his departure.
I wonder why that was.....
That's odd. One would think
March 7, 2007 - 17:23 ET by sarcasmoThat's odd. One would think, in this legalistic day & age, that such a form would be standard for all missions involving intelligence. Is anyone (besides the 2 of us, I mean) covering this at all?
JMR
See, the thing is that I do n
March 7, 2007 - 17:48 ET by BDSee, the thing is that I do not think that even the conservative press understands what is involved in the whole process.
Most people think the intelligence world is something like "24", Tom Clancy novels, or other adventure programming and do not understand that the day to day operations of such mundane, but obviously necessary beauracracy such as non-disclosure agreements.
And those that probably understand probably cannot get permission from editors to chase such boring items when they can commit to more video genic and exciting items such as video of the latest carbombing in outersville Iraq.
Hi BD...Great post!As you and
March 7, 2007 - 17:21 ET by bigtimerHi BD...
Great post!
As you and others already know I always say I wished we could get rid of the State Dept. because of the reasons you just stated, I wished we could clean out all of these agencies of the enemies within.
I know, if wishes were fishes....
Bigtimer:Yes, when you get re
March 7, 2007 - 18:00 ET by BDBigtimer:
Yes, when you get representatives from the entire intelligence community in a single room to discuss things, it is like the bar scene from Starwars in its diversity. That is usually one of the reasons why you will always be able to find a report somewhere that disagrees with the others regarding a position.
Meetings like these usually get a bit contentious as each Agency tries to protesct both their ideaologies and rice bowls....
Example:
State Department will continue to claim diplomacy as the only natural effort long after the Nuc's have flown and be indignant when a counter-strike is ordered.
BD...Your last sentence was t
March 7, 2007 - 18:08 ET by Clear thinkerBD...
Your last sentence was the funniest thing I have read in quite some time.
Thanks!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Clear thinker:Swear to GOD it
March 7, 2007 - 18:19 ET by BDClear thinker:
Swear to GOD it is true.
In a meeting one day with most of the other agencies having reps there, my deputy and I jokingly theorized what would be the response of the differing representatives if an AQ terrorist jumped through the window of the conference room and opened fire with a shotgun and began slowly gunning down each representative.
NSA would observe him to see if and what type of radio he was carrying.
FBI would begin cataloguing his crimes for later prosecution.
NGA would wonder how on earth he got up to the window he jumped through.
DIA would begin planning to smack him on the head with a folding chair if given the go ahead.
Department of State Intelligence would begin empathizing with the poor miscreant and wondering if they could somehow increase aid to his hometown in order to gain an edge in future negotiations...
CIA would begin wondering how they could get him to shoot them last.
Funny, but a kernal of truth to it as well...
Wow, BD.That is sick, and sor
March 7, 2007 - 18:29 ET by BlondeWow, BD.
That is sick, and sorry, and funny in a very bizarre way.
And spot-on, I'm sure.
Yeah.One thing I have learned
March 8, 2007 - 09:43 ET by BDYeah.
One thing I have learned over the years is that each of the different agencies is the way they are for a reason. Often it has to do with the mission they are given (FBI, NSA, etc)
Other agencies are the way they are because of who they market as recruits. I think a good example of this is that the CIA has historically recruited Liberal arts grads from Ivy schools with degrees in obtuse subjects as "Early Hitite Feminist Poetry". The CIA must look at them as individuals from good schools with training in a geographic region that they as an organization can mold into their type of analysts. That, and every CIA analyst I have ever worked with for an extended time was below 30 years old and on their first job.
It is funny when the young military guys at a conference are the OLD MEN. This youth also has an effect.
BD,Laughing so hard!You have
March 7, 2007 - 18:31 ET by bigtimerBD,
Laughing so hard!
You have got to write that book! You just have to!
Just think of the movie!
LMAO!
Ah, who would believe it. P
March 8, 2007 - 09:44 ET by BDAh, who would believe it. People already have pre-conceived notions....
I'm with you, Dontab. In addi
March 7, 2007 - 12:42 ET by HumanEventsI'm with you, Dontab. In addition to needing more conservatives instead of RINO's in the GOP, we need conservatives who have the courage to stand up for their principles and don't get so darn intimidated by the libs and Dems and MSM. Conservatism without courage mounts to the ol' "All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."
Also, how about that story from an Indianapolis middle school. The local media reported:
"...during school hours in a classroom with an experienced teacher present, two sixth graders completed the act of intercourse...at least ten students were witnesses. No disciplinary actions were taken against the teacher... All teachers were told to keep quiet."
Did this story get any kind of play in the national MSM? And if not, as I suspect, what if this had occurred at a private or Christian (or any other non government school)? Probably would have been the second leading story after Scooter Libby, eh?
The media templates are to report on what makes Republicans look bad and Democrats look good, what makes homosexuals look good (so only report on homosexuals when they are victims of crime, not perpetrators), what makes guns look bad (so only report on when guns are used in crimes, not when they are used to prevent murders and other crimes), etc. And so in this case, if it makes the public schools look bad, ignore it. But a non government school? Extra extra read all about it!
The media templates are to re
March 7, 2007 - 14:07 ET by JDWThe media templates are to report on what makes Republicans look bad and Democrats look good
How much political power is necessary to overcome the news media?
JDW
Wounded skier, beware of mistakes.
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
Dontab
March 7, 2007 - 12:43 ET by iveseenitallRight on that one, Dontab. Guys like Berger steal the National Archives and not a peep from the Rinos. The president is bashed on a daily basis and I've never once heard a long speech in his defense. They lost the last election because they are not willing to stand up for principles and then take the heat. Politicians on the right as well as the left are nothing but pandering fools.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Dontab...pigsOld saying "
March 7, 2007 - 12:45 ET by vrwc13Dontab...pigs
Old saying "don't wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty, and only they love it."
another "You can't fight them all, choose your battles wisely"
"Any fool can criticize, complain, condemn, and most fools do. Picking your battles is impressive and fighting them is essential" Dale Carnegie
face piles of trials with smiles
WAPO says Joe Wilson is a liar!
March 7, 2007 - 12:40 ET by Dave R