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Sign the pledge http://www.th
January 31, 2007 - 09:52 ET by truth_missileSign the pledge http://www.thenrscpledge.com/
Just Signed It
January 31, 2007 - 10:13 ET by emjem24Truth, this is a good idea. Is there a way that NewsBusters can publicize it I wonder? This pledge is a good way to hold these RINO's feet to the fire. You want to know how reelectable you trully are, Smith, Collins, Snow, etc? By people checking your voting record which you can't hide from. I think we should have an additional pledge, Truth. Let's have a pledge for people to sign vowing to unseat any Republican senator who claims to be conservative and or Republican but votes with liberals on multiple occasions. I'm sick and tired of people like these RINO's having control of the Republican Party. Who's with me?
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
First, I think Newsbusters is
January 31, 2007 - 10:39 ET by truth_missileFirst, I think Newsbusters is publicizing it by giving us an open forum - Thank you Newsbusters. The pledge is about standing up and showing these fools dressed as Republicans that we cannot compromise on victory. If you listen to Hugh Hewitts' show, you would have heard an interview with someone as rock steady as John Boener waffling and equivocating about support for troops on the streets of Iraq. These guys need to know that they must fight for the support our mission needs to succeed. As HH's on his show has stated, they can get it wrong on the economy, they can get it wrong on taxes...we'll recover. If they get it wrong on the war, we're dead. Would you want to be a soldier stepping through the Iranian booby trapped streets of Baghdad thinking in the back of your mind that the Senate of my country has just voted no confidence in our leader and and our mission?
You're Right, Truth
January 31, 2007 - 10:57 ET by emjem24You've really got a good point about how even steady Republicans are not so steady on their feet regarding the war. Whatever happened to standing up for what you believe in? Isn't that what our military is doing right now? Believe me, I've already imagined a dozen different and nasty scenarios for what will happen if Congress lets our troops down. Being a military spouse gives me perhaps more of a window into what all the possibilities of failure will be if we get out of Iraq now. However, I'm more concerned that America has already let our troops down by voting in these liberal buffoons that now control the House and Senate. I don't think the politicans are the only ones shakey on the war. It's Americans who don't have much stomach, strength, commitment, or courage to stand up for what they believe in. Only if they lose their welfare, abortion, social security, medicare, and free public education will they rise up and protest.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
What Will Other Countries Say
January 31, 2007 - 11:02 ET by emjem24One other quick note: If the media, politicans, and public don't think that Europe, Iran, Al Queda, Venezuela, China, or North Korea haven't taken notice of our lack of unity about the war or terrorism then think again. They're all watching and taking notice of what's happening in our country right now. Our enemies comb through our weaknesses looking for something to exploit. I think it won't be that hard to find something with the current atmosphere now permeating throughout the country right now.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
America's top enemies VOTE DE
January 31, 2007 - 15:27 ET by TruthMongerAmerica's top enemies VOTE DEMOCRAT that's for sure : ) !
“The arguments of liberals
January 31, 2007 - 09:57 ET by vrwc13“The arguments of liberals are more often grounded in reason and fact,” barack obama
I wonder what facts and reason he used to come up with this quote?
face piles of trials with smiles, it riles them to believe that you perceive the webs they weave
vrwc 13 Obama may in fact be Jesus, Slate thinks so
January 31, 2007 - 11:19 ET by SportPoliticsvrwc 13, Obama may in fact be Jesus, Slate thinks so.
The Obama Messiah WatchIntroducing a periodic feature considering evidence that Obama is the son of God.
By Timothy Noah
So whatever he would say about it would accordingly be glorified by the msm, those real xtians.
Some examples... The reason t
January 31, 2007 - 14:40 ET by The Wicked ConservativeSome examples...
The reason they support embryonic stem cell research despite it's complete lack of even one successful application is the fact that those of us against it recognize the sanctity of life! To do so could damage their case for the right to have irresponsible sex and kill unborn children.
The reason they support illegal immigration is the fact that they imagine a whole new voting block for themselves.
The reason they are against a troop surge is the fact that they are against Bush. Troops and victory be damned!
The only thing evil needs to succeed, is for good people to nothing about it.
Good morning ,all. I finally
January 31, 2007 - 10:04 ET by Dad GummitGood morning ,all. I finally got lined out to join the fun here. I admit it's a lot easier to get going on the Huffpo, but the pool of intelligent discourse is rather shallow over there. They allow vulgarity and mean spiritedness as long as it is directed toward the Bush administration. I got kicked off when I posted my support for their candy-date Mr. Borat Osama. I also mentioned "Hufftards" still claiming stolen elections.
I like to check in during the day whenever possible, but I'm one of those conservatives, and I have to work now.
Good day to you all, and I enjoy your postings.
"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left" Ecclesiastes 10:2
Welcome Dad Gummit
January 31, 2007 - 10:20 ET by emjem24Welcome, Dad Gummit. You'll always be a welcome addition among us fellow conservatives. Beware that we do have the occasional liberal troll who will want to argue with any conservative, say nonsensical things, and when you don't agree call you either a zombie or stupid. Oh, and there's tumbler who claims to be conservative but is a soft touch for illegal immigrants. If you don't agree with him (like most of us on here), he'll call you bad names like racist and white supremacist (at least he did with me). He may even question your gender (he did with me...how does one not get that emjem24 is feminine?). Anyhoo, welcome and I look forward to chatting with you.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
questioned your gender?
January 31, 2007 - 12:53 ET by tumbler_2007WHY? It's either he or she.
I have no way of knowing, so I say he/she. Was there a Mr. invisibly posted before that name?
Do I call just anybody who disagrees with me racist? Not at all. Or white supremacist?
There are millions in our counry who have long taken for granted being anglo-saxon or white caucasian is more trustworthy, photogenic, honest, virtuous, brave and loyal. It's a sign of white supremacy. Not bigotry exactly. Many like this are extremely fine, upright folks. But for ever so long, they didn't want a daughter associationg with "those people." This condition isn't quite a racial injustice. It isn't hatred. America has its many white supremes today and only a fool would deny it. So it may well be the shoe fits emjem. It doesn't fit ME and I'm a white hispanic with no relatives south of the border. I'm also a Reagan/Bush, Pro-Life, for tax cuts, anti- gay/lesbian agenda, pro Iraq War conservative. no matter what idiocy strikes emjem.
But since I feel compassion for poverty-stricken Mexicans, emjem says I can't possibly be conservative. That isn't very inclusive of him/her. Is he/she a racist? Not really. But racist hate speech has never turned him/her off one bit. He/she just JOINS IN.
I welcome Dad Gummit and hope he shares my ideals as a true American.
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"Do I call just anybody
January 31, 2007 - 12:57 ET by MikeB"Do I call just anybody who disagrees with me a racist?" Yes, you do. Either racist or bigot or white supremacist. And, if the one in disagreement with you is female, you also call her a bimbo. Go back and read your own posts, tumbler.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
mike b-b brain
January 31, 2007 - 13:08 ET by tumbler_2007No, Sir-- I do NOT call just anybody who disagrees with me anything. I only say that about our contributors here who persist in hurling invective and rage at illegal immigrants with never a qualifying word. HATE SPEECH as everyday rhetoric. If you do that, it attracts my attention. I STILL don't jump at the chance to call you a racist. You have to keep reinforcing the impression and THEN, it's very likely. The BIMBO wasn't called so for "disagreeing" with anything I say. (Though she busts out at me every chance she has. She was called a broad and a Bimbo because on TWO occasions, she refererred to me here--publicly as "Ddddick-head". After that, nobody would take her for anything EXCEPT a bimbo. Well, maybe Mike B, who shows no class during any public discussion either. They are two of a kind. Big MOUTHS, little sense. (Go back & read your own posts, MB)
You have repetitvely stated t
January 31, 2007 - 13:32 ET by BDYou have repetitvely stated that my objection to Illegal Immigrants is racially motivated, yet I have often indicated that I desire ALL illegal immigrants be treated the same way regardless of race, creed, or national origin.
So, where does that leave us?
BD specifies all illegal aliens
January 31, 2007 - 14:33 ET by tumbler_2007BD has no racial ethnicity specified when he rails against the bad guys crossing the border into his beloved Cochise County in AZ; treat 'em all alike. If there's ever a Chinese illegal immigrant, throw him in the same paddy wagon with those Mexicans who cross almost daily.
What if his buddies on alert spot an Irishman, or maybe a black African from Mombasa along the desert trail? Stop the man and ask him for his passport? Sure; we do it to ten thousand Mexican aliens a month. We don't discriminate, says BD. Actually; BD has a hard on for MEXICANS. His plea of no breaks for any illegal no matter what ethnic minority he or she mot be, is total hypocrisy.
We all know which illegals have this country tied up in controversy and it AIN'T just any race, creed or color. It's Mexicans coming up out of Mexico illegally. He just doesn't want it seen that way, because he's GUILTY of de facto racial prejudice. He lives on the border across from Mexico, not on the Afghan border of Pakistan. What hypocrisy!
BD
January 31, 2007 - 14:44 ET by florida_chadSo if BD talks about illegal immigration, he is obviosly talking about Mexicans because he is in Az, and that is racist.
How is he supposed to talk about illegal immigration then? Never mind - I got it. He isn't or else he is racist. I live in FL. I am against ALL illegal immigration. Is that racist?
My Irish heritage was offende
January 31, 2007 - 14:48 ET by saw the lightMy Irish heritage was offended by the term "paddy wagon."
"People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." - A.J. Liebling
Yes saw the light,correct you are it was a great offense
February 1, 2007 - 12:10 ET by SportPoliticsYes saw the light, correct you are it was a great offense and tumbler's hatred for Irishmen has shown through once again. He needs to apologize immediately for his racist, biggotted slur that flew out of his yap like water.
After claiming he doesn't call everyone racist, he calls emjem and mike b a racist and then BD.
I'd say he's in need of proactive sensitivity training at this point. A bigot and racist, who hates the Irish so much he blurts out slurs not and is not even aware of it. You know at that point it's so ingrained he can never get over it.
Soooo.... All of those OTM's
January 31, 2007 - 16:40 ET by BDSoooo.... All of those OTM's (Other than Mexicans) that cross here and are immaterial because they are synonymous with our Mexican racial category?
What if my buddies spot the Irish, Scottish or Lithuanian on the trail coming across? I say stop them, ask for ID. If they have entered illegally I say we then ship their rear ends to Tierra Del Fuego to make the long walk back.
What is my "Hard on for Mexicans" as you state in your posting? Please show me any racial stereotype I have made in a past posting other than my observation of Mexico being less well of than the US because of a culture of graft inherent there which is not in dispute.
Ooops, I forgot that I have a de facto racial prejudice because I use logic in such situations.
C'mon Tumbler, give me a repl
February 1, 2007 - 11:42 ET by BDC'mon Tumbler, give me a reply here...
He already screwed up BD, very badly
February 1, 2007 - 12:14 ET by SportPoliticsTumbler already screwed up BD, very badly. He left me with the impression that Mexico is a segregated nation of racists, and that only one type of person is allowed in there. It's got to be the one type mr spic himself declares is present. He's real racist freak, and hates Irish too, I just found out.
the reason you're racists
February 1, 2007 - 14:51 ET by tumbler_2007Pardon me as I explain my loooong stretch; how dastardly racist youz guys are.
Not because you correctly point out a million or more Mexican illegals have broken our law. That's not arguable. The racists among us here are not "called racists and bigots" on acount of that. Here's why:
These dodoes have actually advocated terror and murder. Of what ethnic type? Is it all races and types, as BD claims he condemns? That won't fly; he means the offending Mexicans, not scots or lutherans. Has he advocated killing Mexicans? Calling up a Marine division to fire on unarmed men and women? Shipping them (illegally) in a flying boxcar to Chile or Tierra del Fuego? To stagger hundreds of miles to their home in Mexico? He has advocated murder of mexicans and he's not the only one. Sports Politics is just as racially motivated to violence and hatred. He makes no bones about it. He's slurring me today. I'm a "spic" to him, not an hispanic American. HE's an American, you see. Because he can say whatever he pleases about any other racial or ethnic type, minority or others. That's white supremacy, plain and simple.
I have no choice but to say you are racists. You're on record here in the NB archives. You can't make these things UP ! ! !
Soooo..... Even though I have
February 1, 2007 - 15:18 ET by BDSoooo..... Even though I have indicated that ALL illegal aliens (To include Chinese, Scots, Norske's, South Africans) should be shipped to Tierra Del Fuego to begin the long march indicates I am strictly anti-Mexican.
Regardless of the fact that I continue to advocate a multi-ethnic answer, I am still anti-Hispanic?
Hmmmmm....
At which point have I advocated murder? At which point have I advocated murdering Mexicans?
That takes a logic leap that rivals Evil Knievals Snake River attempt in the 1970s.
I note that you do not post in direct reply to my messages, nor accept my challenges... I wonder why that is?
come off it, BD
February 1, 2007 - 15:34 ET by tumbler_2007"ALL illegal aliens (To include Chinese, Scots,--blah, blah.) That's a red herring of an answer. You mean the violaters here discussed, not hypothetical violaters. Don't cry for cheap exoneration.
YES, you're on record posting that by the border our National Guard-- might been the Marines with guns and artillery, should block illegal immigrants. It wasn't a maybe, you said so. Mainly because you lack common sense. The real GIANT LEAP is somehow portraying Tumbler as the guy who wants open borders, the ruin of our country, free pass for illegals, etc.,
None of those charges is true. But you (as well as others here) advocate violence against unarmed men and women on account of their Mexican origin. Which is patently unjust, as there is no imminent danger to this country from Mexicans who come here (sneak in) for menial work and farm labor. It's a straw dog and always has been. The "health care, education system," are NOT being crushed by illegal hordes of cheaters. That is total BS. --BD.
So, you claim that there are
February 1, 2007 - 18:17 ET by BDSo, you claim that there are NO illegal Immigrants who are IRISH, SCOTTISH, NORWEGIANS et al? I think you would be surprised to find there are. In fact, Boston is highly populated with illegals who have overstayed visas from the Republic of Ireland. Would it surprise you to note that I believe they should be handled exactly the same way as the illegal border crossers. Tumbler racial point has just EVAPORATED!
Do I believe the National Guardsmen positioned on the border should be armed? Yes. As the incident from last week proved, they needed not only sidearms when they were approached and flanked by armed drug smugglers, but should have had access to armed helicopters, and a well armed response element of some form to handle this issue.
THose of us on the border realize that armed elements from Mexico often stages incursions into the US as a method of shepherding drug runners. They are usually far better armed than the border patrolmen who are invariably forced to retreat and allow the smugglers to escape. They are also far more apt to engage US law engforcement than the US law enforcement is to engage them.
If the Canadians were doing the same on our norhtern border, or from ships in the Altlantic/Pacific, I would demand armed response there as well.
Please prove this is racist.
Tumbler what qualifier should
January 31, 2007 - 14:50 ET by James2306Tumbler what qualifier should we put in for you so that we can call a crook a crook and you wont call us bigots for saying so
I'm Not A Bimbo
February 1, 2007 - 01:29 ET by emjem24I called you a haborer of illegals but never a ddddickhead (but it does come to mind). I "bust out on you" because you are intellectually dishonest and ignorant. Oh, you've also called me an idiot. I guess having bachelor's and master's degrees makes me an idiot. You're the one running around and shouting sexist invective not me. You've even challenged my gender...what does that say about you? You're just a pig or a pinhead...is that better?
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
Yes, that's better, please continue when so moved.
February 1, 2007 - 12:19 ET by SportPoliticsYes, that's better, please continue when so moved.
lol
I guess one of our residents (Blonde) isn't around for the racist bigot chauvenist to hack away at, so.... Has he prayed for you yet, or preached to prove he wasn't wrong ? That's always fun, too.
emjem24 pleads once more
February 1, 2007 - 15:19 ET by tumbler_2007"I called you a haborer of illegals but never a ddddickhead (but it does come to mind)."
Reply: I never harbor anybody. Now you brand yourself a liar in the bargain, em. She calls ME dishonest ? I "bust out on you" because you are intellectually dishonest and ignorant. Oh, you've also called me an idiot. I guess having bachelor's and master's degrees makes me an idiot."
I wouldn't brag about degrees from inculcators of liberalism, Dopey. You act just as idiots act. (Walk like a duck, . . . ) "You're the one running around and shouting sexist invective not me." -- SEXIST? Straight out of women's studies, Hmm? Sure you aren't a Bimbo as well? Were you ever in a commune? Have ya got a tattoo on your right breast? Ha . . .?
I never went to college. I'm not about to fall into the hands of your professors. Yet I'm better educated than YOU, emjem. SELF-EDUCATED, tri-lingual, extremely well-read, on Art, all genres, Music, every genre from the sonata to grand opera to modern and Broadway; in all languages. Religion, world history, warfare, sciences, poets, the cinema, Broadway stage, you name it, -- I'm the polymath. I paint and also sculpt in ceramics. Do I care if you majored in feminism? Or class warfare? That's what's taught for degrees now. Arrogant feminists and pacifists; every one a grad student and blowhard. My education was in direct contradiction to yours. So you got a degree or two? Ask me if I care.
Your wasting your time DaveR.
January 31, 2007 - 13:40 ET by florida_chadYour wasting your time DaveR. You seem to have pegged tumbler exactly. He is too set in his ways to change. Disagree? your a racist. If your a women and disagree? bimbo, maybe drunk.
His pattern has stayed the same now his entire time here. On other subjects he can be reasonable, but not on illegal immigration.
tumbler...TOM TANCREDO FOR PR
January 31, 2007 - 13:48 ET by Clear thinkertumbler...
TOM TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT!
I love doing this.
Dittos and then some!
January 31, 2007 - 14:09 ET by Dave RDittos and then some!
Amen.
January 31, 2007 - 14:14 ET by Prester JohnAmen.
Dave and Prester...Be careful
January 31, 2007 - 14:24 ET by Clear thinkerDave and Prester...
Be careful or tumbler will call you a rascist.
TOM TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT!Le
January 31, 2007 - 14:39 ET by HumanEventsTOM TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT!
Let's get serious about stopping this insane illegal invasion coming across our border from Mexico.
Newt's step 2 of 11
January 31, 2007 - 14:45 ET by misterbill2.Control the Borders. The House should pass a narrowly focused bill to ensure that the United States can control the border. The current Senate bill is a disaster. It is impossible to pass a "comprehensive" immigration bill in the next two months. The American people overwhelmingly want the borders controlled and every act of terrorism reminds us that having the borders uncontrolled makes us more vulnerable to attack. The House should immediately pass a border-control bill and conservative Republican senators should move every day to bring it up in the Senate. Let Democrats and elitist Republicans block controlling the border and make that a referendum test for Election Day.
Don Rickles' clone dies
February 1, 2007 - 12:15 ET by reelman46AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Best-selling author and
columnist Molly Ivins, the sharp-witted liberal who
skewered the political establishment and referred to President
Bush as “Shrub,” died at 62 Wednesday after a long battle with
breast cancer.
More than 400 (LIBERAL) newspapers subscribed to
her nationally syndicated column, which combined strong
liberal views and populist-toned humor. Ivins’ illness did not
seem to hurt her ability to deliver biting one-liners.
NOTE: She was the most vicious ranting liberal I ever read. Every
article was a litany of factless assertations, bashes, name-calling and
baloney.
A true modern angry secular socialist with not a realistic solution for
anything of significance (expect more secular socialism). She made a
living as a political “Don Rickles”. Not impressed with her
pseudo-contributions. This AP article about her is biased (inaccurate
as expected). Somebody should write about her death in her
style.
(as she would gleefully do for any conservative or Repub President or
anyone she spat her venom on without evidence). Thank God most writers
have a lot more class than she ever displayed.
Those dense Repubs
February 1, 2007 - 12:18 ET by reelman46Boortz mentions today (2.1) the new book by Frank Luntz who told Repubs in 2005 that
voter rejection was near… they slammed him and there you go. Where is
the clear vision and articulated goals? Except for Newt, its a bare
cupboard of visible ideas for positive change. Caller and Neal ask when
are Libertarians viable? Asks why are you so “looking forward to voting
for Repub in 08″? Call him today.
NOTE: Its easy to be a reformer and 2nd guesser like the liberals… so
much is now systemic (like huge socialistic programs and govt worker
unions). Any 3rd Party the libmedia thinks will help demolibs win will
get all the TV time they can handle (Perot Syndrome)… if not, its
doomed to Fox News and Web… like all really positive reformers… Perot
gave us 8 years of secular socialism and only Newt (Contract With
America 1994) saved us from 3 more SC ultralibs and hundreds of
ultralib federal judges and NO welfare reform that got 40% off the
porch and into the work force). Did I mention our military was cut by
over a half million? Unless YOU hammer the Repubs without mercy, they
will just drift along as the demo’s pet poodles. I hammer them and
enjoy every word of it. Boortz 2.1
Ct,After reading this, I'm no
January 31, 2007 - 14:46 ET by Dave RCt,
After reading this, I'm not sure I really care. Believe me, I have been called far worse.
I Volunteer
February 1, 2007 - 01:34 ET by emjem24Where can I sign up to volunteer, Clear?
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
Florida, you also don't dare
January 31, 2007 - 14:10 ET by MikeBFlorida, you also don't dare disagree with him on the death penalty or about the Spanish Inquisition (it didn't happen, it was just libelous English history).
Someone mentioned that about 1/3 of births in a Dallas hospital were to illegal aliens. Tumbler accused them of "hate speech". A link was provided proving the point. Deafening silence, no apology from Mr. Reasonable. Over and over posters, including me, have said race doesn't matter, immigrants are welcome as long as they obey our laws to get here, and obey our laws while staying here. That is, according to Tumbler, racist. So, continue with your denials you are a illegal immigration apologist, tumbler. Everyone on this site but you can see you for what you are.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Blonde, myself and a few othe
January 31, 2007 - 14:18 ET by florida_chadBlonde, myself and a few other had similar conversations with him before Christmas. I got tired of his act.
The Sapnish Inquisition didn't happen?!? LOL
Please don't misprepresent everything
January 31, 2007 - 15:18 ET by tumbler_2007Mike is once more insisting that all I ever do is accuse others of racism. That's a lie.
He LIES. He has nothing else to offer. As for his disputed LINK, it's at best irrelevant, even if it had some truth in it.
WHY? The obvious truth is, no one KNOWS who is really illegal, who is documented or on temporary visa, or who is a naturalized American citizen. The "studies" you tout are always HEARSAY. WHY?
Because, at an emergency room or clinic we aren't even asked for documents. The illegal community by definition is NOT open to any census or self-incriminating checks. Furthermore, a reporter can come up with a Google-based "study" nobody can verify. It's assembled by a clerk in one of our bureaucratic agencies. You won't find much actual and dependable stats in those sheets of crap.
All youz guys are ever interested in is kill the messenger. Too bad, because I'm bullet-proof and you're just little knee-jerk robots who can't shoot straight. --I'll give Dad Gummit benefit of the doubt, assuming he can READ YOUR IDIOTIC replies to my posts. It'll show him clearly, this is no Blue Ribbon Panel of mental gymnasts. Hopefully, he has ways of thinking for himself, instead of borrowing from all of YOU. We'll see.
I dunno Tumbler, I tried to debate you and you went names.
January 31, 2007 - 15:22 ET by acaiguanaI dunno Tumbler, I tried to debate you and you went names on me.
So, my experience with you has been very bad. That's why I don't respond to anything you say here anymore.
You seem to be overly sensitive to the concept that people here are 'racist'.
I don't see that much racism here. There have been some instances, but when an American says, for example, that the US has the sovereign right to do whatever it wants to with illegals (regardless of race, but Mexicans seem to dominate, huh?) you jump right off the cliff.
So, there you have it, Tumbler.
:-<
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
dear aca
January 31, 2007 - 15:35 ET by tumbler_2007You haven't debated. Nobody debates here. You either toe the party line or you're an outsider. Everybody attacks YOU and nobody bothers to debate. --- I don't even debate. I agree with 99% of your take on illegal immigration.
THAT 1% difference of opinion casts me in the role of everybody's punching bag, from the dumbest critter to the few thinking men around this place.
I wouldn't have it any other way, because I always speak for those who are despised and belittled. They have no other voice except me on NewsBusters. I sincerely applaud and give thanks to the editors of this site, for being large enough to allow a contrary opinon. Unlike the Bozoes of this madhouse like Mike B misterbill, BD, et al. They would love to blackball old tumbler, because they can't debate from strength; only from knee-jerk bias.
tumbler_2007, you are so far from being blackballed.
January 31, 2007 - 18:14 ET by acaiguanatumbler_2007, you are so far from being blackballed.
But that is the type of over the top comment that drives people away from any point you might want to make.
Don't get confused. I'm done with you and have been for a long time.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Please list any knee-jerk bia
January 31, 2007 - 18:53 ET by BDPlease list any knee-jerk bias I have displayed in my attempts to debate with you.
I have indicated that ALL illegal aliens regardless of race, religion, or national origin need to be dealt with according to the law and thus you say I am being racist.
Who is being knee-jerk?
C'mon Tumbler, give me a repl
February 1, 2007 - 11:43 ET by BDC'mon Tumbler, give me a reply....
chad from boca et al
January 31, 2007 - 14:52 ET by tumbler_2007Set in my ways? Are you not projecting again, Kid?
I see the objections I keep making rejected repeatedly by folks who are TRULY set in the ways of xenophobia and racial prejudice.
What objections have Tumbler "set in his ways"--??? Objections against indifference to a minority's abject poverty. Objections against hatred. Against immoderate rhetoric versus a people who cannot defend themselves. When an illegal is rounded up, the officials don't give a fig about whether or not he's
hard-working, father of a family.
desperate for work.
harming no one.
No-- all the official cares is, whether he's documented or not. Humanity has no place in his methodology. More often it's indifference to the other person's pain and humiliation. Why? He's just doing a necessary job. But Bozoes like DaveR, Mike B. BD and Fla Chad aren't. They merely stir the shit. Emgem was first to bring it up in this thread, not me. -- I had no reason to squawk today until the whole wrecking crew came aboard, with supercilious sermons and MORE hate speech.
The crushing poverty in MEXIC
January 31, 2007 - 14:56 ET by James2306The crushing poverty in MEXICO is their problem not mine to solve for them they made it they can deal with it. Should they want our help I will gladly give it to them when they quit encouraging people to come here illegally.
The crushing poverty in MEXIC
January 31, 2007 - 14:57 ET by James2306The crushing poverty in MEXICO is their problem not mine to solve for them they made it they can deal with it. Should they want our help I will gladly give it to them when they quit encouraging people to come here illegally.
Another cliche about Mexico
January 31, 2007 - 20:44 ET by tumbler_2007James 2306: "The crushing poverty in Mexico is their problem not mine to solve for them they made it they can deal with it."
You're on a cliche trip. Not all Mexicans live in poverty. Many are excellent providers for their families. Many are very substantial citizens.
But that's past your idiotic sense of reality. You'd rather relish the ordinary American's cliches about how we're so elevated above Mexico's bad government, bad choices and bad economy. Just cliche-ville, Dude. Mexico isn't dirt poor.
But any agrarian economy can be up or down in wages. Peones are at the mercy of poor income from subsidized crops like sugar, corn, or sorry wages on a small farmstead. They are paid in pesos. When they come to California they're paid in dollars. It's a no-brainer, they come north. When a clueless dope like you says, ""Crushing poverty in Mex is their problem not mine," he wants it to seem he's been supporting somebody else or solving other peoples' problems. BUT YOU DON'T. --You give nothing to the illegals or to their government --you merely WONK your putz. There's nothing so disgusting as a purse-proud chicken-shit who arrived here FREE, without paying any dues. --YOU.
True, not all Mexicans live i
January 31, 2007 - 20:51 ET by MikeBTrue, not all Mexicans live in poverty, tumbler, but according to the world bank website, 50% of Mexicans live in poverty, and 20% are living in dire poverty. So, now you can apologize to James for the clueless dope remark.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
It's his inner child MikeB
February 1, 2007 - 12:32 ET by SportPoliticsIt's his inner child MikeB. Months ago tumbly cried the evil white man abused him as a child, because he was a spic. Now he's a white hispanic, with no relatives in Mexico. A hispanic-american. He never came over illegally, but as you see above "they don't ask "us" that in the emergency room".
It gets more confusing as it all changes. He went into an insane screed on me (one of many) and shrieked I would turn my back on all mexicans, but unfortunately for tumbly, that was because he claimed none of them had a car and I wouldn't stop at the corner and give them a ride. Turns out I have given "them" a ride, when their car battery died, home from "work", not the street corner where tumbly says they hang out, all those "hard workers" - on the street corner saith tumbly.
LOL - He's a real freak my friend.
come & get yours
February 1, 2007 - 16:03 ET by tumbler_2007Come and get your lunch, SportLoco,
Months ago tumbly cried the evil white man abused him as a child, because he was a spic. --NICE, real nice. Reply: You make up little lies, how can anybody treat you as an equal? You're just scum. "Now he's a white hispanic, with no relatives in Mexico. A hispanic-american. CORRECT. "He never came over illegally, but as you see above "they don't ask "us" that in the emergency room". I was born here, Doofus. I'm also fluent in Spanish. And I know what I'm talking about. Unlike YOUR inner child from the trailer park.
"It gets more confusing as it all changes. He went into an insane screed on me (one of many) and shrieked I would turn my back on all mexicans, but unfortunately for tumbly, that was because he claimed none of them had a car and I wouldn't stop at the corner and give them a ride. Turns out I have given "them" a ride, when their car battery died, home from "work", not the street corner where tumbly says they hang out, all those "hard workers" - on the street corner saith tumbly."
Reply: He's getting himself wet urinating up that rope. Poor half-wit. Anybody understand that last part of his rant? Only other weasels? Yeah, figures. Hmmmm.
Tumbler you are a liar, a rac
February 1, 2007 - 13:12 ET by James2306Tumbler you are a liar, a racist, and a piece of garbage.
1.I never said that Mexico was dirt poor. That was YOU who implied that by saying for the entire time that I read your posts that coming to the U.S. was the only way they could make it..
2I never said that I was above anybody. Thats YOUR racism coming into play.
3I dont care if they are paid in Turkish Lira.
4 I dont owe them or their government any thing never have never will.
5 Who said that I arrived here, I was born here as were my ancestors going back to before any Europeon arrived here.
6 As for being a chickenshit Would you like my address in Montana so you can come say that to my face?
james 2306 on his horse
February 1, 2007 - 16:30 ET by tumbler_2007Here's an ass whole says I'm a liar, a racist, and a piece of garbage. He's got a m e a n temper! Ha ha!
1.I never said that Mexico was dirt poor. (You right; all you said was "Mexico's CRUSHING POVERTY) which isn't no fault of yours, Corn-pone.
"That was YOU who implied that by saying for the entire time that I read your posts that coming to the U.S. was the only way they could make it." (Wu-l-l exCUSE me ! ! ! )
2I never said that I was above anybody. Thats YOUR racism coming into play. (Shut ya trap, Broke-back.
3I dont care if they are paid in Turkish Lira. (Look out, he's violent.)
4 I dont owe them or their government any thing never have never will. (You couldn't even pay your own way there. --Maybe if you take your Turkish flying carpet.)
5 Who said that I arrived here, I was born here as were my ancestors going back to before any Europeon arrived here." You got in FREE. You're purse-proud despite having all the breaks. It gets you furious if anybody else ever gets one.
6 As for being a chickenshit --YOU ARE. A chicken-shit cries about how he's "paying what he shouldn't." As if you pay anything a Mexican owes ! That IS being chicken shit, as opposed to magnanimous, charitable, generous and unselfish . . . Chicken-shits are SELFISH and self-absorbed. If the shoe fits WEAR it.
"Would you like my address in Montana so you can come say that to my face?" Yeah, and then I'd have to kick your broke back sheepherder tail. (I'm just the guy can DO it.)
"That was YOU who implied that by saying for the entire time that I read your posts that coming to the U.S. was the only way they could make it." --I'm not asking you to help. They come here to WORK. The other way open to them is working for a nickel an hour for the same hard labor. Unless they're well-employed or professionals. Not all Mexicans cross the border illegally. You seem to think every single one has to. Shows how ridiculous you are.
Emjem made a statement and yo
January 31, 2007 - 15:05 ET by MikeBEmjem made a statement and you confirmed it. Not only did you confirm her statement, you expanded on it. Not only are you soft on illegal immigration and the death penalty, but anyone who disagrees with you is not only a bigot, racist, white supremacist, but they engage in hate speech. You amply demonstrate that you slander anyone who disagrees with you. You dismiss them out of hand in the same manner as the global warming advocates do to global warming skeptics. You also demonstrate a Humpty Dumpty attitude towards the meaning of words. If any were xenophobic, tumbler, they would be against allowing any immigration whatsoever.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
now it's even the "death penalty"--!
January 31, 2007 - 15:26 ET by tumbler_2007You keep spinning your wheels, Mike. Saying everything over & over like a parrot. Now it's even the Death Penalty I have all wrong?
Where'd you hear that additional falsehood? Are you just a habitual liar?
You're too dumb to be xenophobic. I'm an American citizen and you have me mistaken for an outsider; that's how bad your xenophobia is. And, I'm glad; it points out how you're guilty of what you've accused me of. You hate whoever disagrees with you.
I keep saying the same things
January 31, 2007 - 15:44 ET by MikeBI keep saying the same things over and over hoping something will get through that dense skull of yours. Your stand on th death penalty was made plain to the posters here on the last thread that discussed it. Apparently there is one liar on this thread, he is a pathological liar who goes by the handle tumbler_2007. I have mistaken you for no one. You have stated repeatedly you are a natural born citizen of this country, and I accept your word on that. Tumbler, I don't hate you, I pity you, and am amused by you. Your very posts this day, and your previous posts all point out that you are guilty of what you accuse us of. You lie, you slander, you apparently hate. And, if you continue to be as ignorant of the English language, as spoken in America, as you have demonstrated, I might begin to question whether or not you are indeed a natural born citizen. Before you sling words like bigot, racist, white supremacist, hate speech, xenophobia, etc., around, you might like to look up their meanings. www.dictionary.com is a good source.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
my stand on the death penalty
January 31, 2007 - 20:59 ET by tumbler_2007Bozo Mike thinks I'm against capital punishment. --"Your stand on the death penalty was made plain to the posters here on the last thread that discussed it."
Then it's YOUR dense skull we're unable to penetrate. I'm 100% FOR the death penalty. How did you manage to distort that ? I openly dissent against the Catholic heierarchy on capital punishment. THAT'S serious. Disputing it with liberals is my perfect piece of cake; try disputing with the Pope. I'm a devout Catholic and conservative. YOU? You're a habitual liar and blowhard.
Yawn.
January 31, 2007 - 21:13 ET by Free StinkerYawn.
Double Yawn
February 1, 2007 - 21:00 ET by NeoConfirmedDouble Yawn
Tumbler, what an ass you are.
February 1, 2007 - 15:43 ET by MikeBTumbler, what an ass you are. I did not say your position on the death penalty was wrong, nor did I say it was right. What I said was one does not wish to disagree with you about it. Period. So, you assume I said you were soft on the death penalty. I said that we could tell what your position on the death penalty was from your posts. Again, you assume I was defining your position on the death penalty. I did no such thing. But, as usual, when someone even might disagree with you, you start name calling and ad hominem attacks. Way to debate, there, tumbler. By the way, I loved your response that facts are irrelevant when it comes to illegal immigration. Tell me, tumbler, are facts irrelevant in the global warming debate? How about the debates on gun ownership and concealed carry permit laws? Are facts irrelevant in those debates, too? Or, are facts irrelevant only in the debate on illegal immigration, that posting a fact is a form of hate speech? Like I said earlier, I don't hate you, I pity you, and am amused by you.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
El Bozo creep Mike
February 1, 2007 - 19:36 ET by tumbler_2007What an ass you are. Mike Bozo.
I didn't say facts are irrelevant. YOUR kind of posts are. You post hate speech DAILY. That's a fact. When you read MY posts it never seems relevant to you. So, get your facts over at a dumpster like all Bozoes do. You never brought a relevant fact to this discussion.
Where ever we agree on a conservative subject, your facts are USUALLY relevant. On Mexican illegals they aren't. All you set up is another demonizing, repetetive stupid post. What makes you think you're entertaining? You're another off-the-wall hate-monger, that's all. And you're boring, you write like a high school bully; a snotty kid.
You accused me of not approving the death penalty which is WRONG. You had to eat it. Now you're back moanin and groanin. Whyn't ya just drop dead? You're redundant and boring.
Hey, everybody! Tumbler lea
February 1, 2007 - 20:52 ET by MikeBHey, everybody! Tumbler learned a new English word: Bozo. So, now anyone who disagrees with him in any way to any degree is a bogotted, racist, hate speaking, white supremacist Bozo. Tell me, tumbler, is Bozo gender specific? Do females qualify as Bozoes, too? Or, are they just bimboes?
Yes, your English vocabulary is increasing, it is too bad your reading comprehension is still so atrocious. Read my comments today: I did not say you were wrong or right about the death penalty, only that one should not disagree with you on your position, else you would start calling names. Pitiful.
But, as you told everbody back in the December 21 open thread, one does have to explain things to you "softly and gently to an old idiot." At least you are aware of your deficiencies.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Senor Moonbat
February 1, 2007 - 20:57 ET by Free StinkerNew vocabulary,
same old ignorant Tumbler.
When we read Mike B, Bozo
February 2, 2007 - 00:03 ET by tumbler_2007Read it. Mike B is for Mike Bozo. I didn't add to my vocabulary. Your last name is what I wrote.
Around here we have jokers who make me Fumbler, Bumbler, Tumby and Tummo. I never mention their deficiencies. Except for the racist hatred. You didn't get the name Bozo because you "disagree with me". It isn't a new word for anybody's vocabulary, Bozo. That's another straw dog.
You are Bozo because you're the class clown; you earned it. Whatcha crying about ? When you suggested I was gay, did I have a cow? No. I explained what Shhhweetheart means. You say I'm "soft on the death penalty".
Bull. --You fail the truth test. OK, as long as I don't go soft on BOZOES. Go on, "disagree" with me, Bozo. You get nothing additional. Just Bozo. Haha!
Tumbler Take Some Pepto
February 1, 2007 - 01:44 ET by emjem24Tumbler, I was just warning our new member of the perils of certain people on this blog. I didn't get such a warning and ran smack dab into you. Oh, and where are boo hoos and the tissues for the NYT airing a video of a dying soldier in Iraq? You feel the pain of illegal Mexicans (who don't give a sh%$ about this country I know I've seen their unappreciative children as a teacher in Colorado) but you don't want to see the harm or the utter chaos and destruction they're causing our country and our fellow citizens. If you feel this strongly, join La Raza, the most racist, hispanic organization in the country. Boo hoo, pass me a kleenex.
The difficult we do immediately; the impossible takes a little longer. Air Force Motto
emjem says: When your brain's stuck on liberalism it self-destructs.
He's a member,no doubt
February 1, 2007 - 12:36 ET by SportPoliticsHe's a virtual member, no doubt. He went into the theft of those SW states from Mexico the other day. I mean he doesn't have to sign up if he hasn't, he's cloned their stances here perfectly.
emjem warns our new member
February 1, 2007 - 13:30 ET by tumbler_2007[She was] "warning our new member of the perils of certain people on this blog. I didn't get such a warning and ran smack dab into you."
Thanks for warning people around here about the mighty peril of moi. --Yeah, you're all heart.
I only wish I were able to warn your "unappreciative children" about the perils of being taught their lessons by a white supremacist hate-monger. One of those who knows nothing and cares less; as long as nobody corrects her. (She can't be wrong, ever.)
As for me going to join La Raza, let's see: If I felt as you describe it, I'd have joined long ago. However, I don't feel as you or La Raza do. --Both you & that group deal in hatred. I'm in favor of love and compassion. FOR ALL, and especially the poor. YOU? You're an alumnus of some leftist university; with a master's degree, no less! Fat lot of qualifications you have for judging Americans. Why don't you just drop this pose of the irritable Boo Hoos of Colorado? You're simply driven by spite & hatred, same as your professor Ward Churchill. The venom drips hot from your every nasty post. -- I really feel sad for you, a poor, mean-spirited soul.
The only RACIST HATEMONGER he
February 1, 2007 - 13:38 ET by James2306The only RACIST HATEMONGER here is you Tumbler
Thanks for the warm welcome,
January 31, 2007 - 16:45 ET by Dad GummitThanks for the warm welcome, folks. I gotta admit that illegal immigration