Well professor you certainly showed yourself yesterday. You clearly do not understand what the Military does of how it defends your freedoms so today you get your lesion.
A Military is necessary to keep the freedom. Without it you are looking at those who will take away your freedom. Meaning a war does not have to be fought or in progress for a member of the military to defend your freedom. I don’t care what you think of the soldier in Iraq as defending your freedom but they are. There place in the military alone is a defense of your freedom.
The ramifications on the Global War on Terror these kids, defending your freedom, are doing will be felt in the future. If we defeat terror on its own soil we keep it out of the US.
Also if Thomas Jefferson had had his way all males citizens would have had to get military training;
"We must train and classify the whole of our male citizens, and make military instruction a regular part of collegiate education. We can never be safe till this is done." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1813. ME 13:261
Thank God there are people out there who are willing to take that responsibility off your shoulders.
In this new and dangerous world we live in will require us to keep in place a ready military to respond to threats. We need people walking the line to keep out those elements that would take your freedoms away.
In reference to my tagline. I don’t care what you think about it. Period. After thinking about it I tried to explain to and the other sharks who thought they smelled blood, what it meant. I then revealed a whole lot about myself to you and JasonC that I could have kept quiet but tried to make you, in your closed mind, understand. You ignored it and kept calling me unstable and a psychotic murderer.
Pathetic.
You then turned and said it has no place in the public. Why? Because it may incite our enemies further?
Again pathetic.
These people hate us, that means you too Professor, because, and this will come as a surprise, we are AMERICANS. Do you really think you could reason with that? They cut peoples heads off for being even near an American. They stone people for being Gay. My God man how much more psychotic can you get. They flog a girl who was raped by four men saying she brought it upon herself. Yet I make a statement in reference to a warrior’s state of mind in the heat of battle and I bring down the wrath of the insurgents upon our soldiers?
Again a far stretch even for a liberal.
I must admit Professor I have seen some pretty low individuals but man have you taken it to a new lower level. Just remember, there are people out there right now, who are in Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Germany, England, and yes even here in the US who are by the sheer fact of being a member of the military, defend your right to free speech. Your right to a free press. A right to a freely practice or not practice a religion of your choice. Your right to come here and express your views. Somewhere in this world today someone in that military may die doing it too.
See the big picture and maybe, in the dark recesses of your closed liberal mind you will find the spark that lights up for you to finally get it.
“A liberal is a man so broad minded, he can not even take his own side in an argument.” Robert Frost













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And he still owes you an apology.
November 27, 2007 - 17:19 ET by Free StinkerAnd the "Prof" still owes you an apology AF.
Once more, Af your statement that I called you a murderer is
November 27, 2007 - 18:17 ET by professor trutha complete LIE. Show me the exact quote and I will apologize to all NB bloggers. You need to get your facts straight, and I never criticized your service, either. I said your tagline is inappropriate in public for several reasons, and I stand by them all. Anyone who makes such a public statement would immediately be seen as a danger and a psychotic. Go say that statement at a party of strangers and watch how fast people will run away. I didn't know it's context, and obviously, that thought must be employed for survival, just keep it to yourself.
PT, Don't sweat this
November 27, 2007 - 18:24 ET by LeonPT,
Don't sweat this guy. It's a childish tagline and it's more of a nuisance than anything.
If I was a betting man, I'd guess that Airforce had no less than 10 lame bumper stickers on the back of his station wagon. You know, things like, "My son beat up your honor student", "Tell your girlfriend I said thanks", and the classic "Guns don't kill People. I kill People."
Real cool.
Furthermore, I read the thread you don't owe anyone an apology. While killing is a necessary part of war, to revel in it once you're out of war is not normal and unhealthy. His tagline is simply a sign of a disturbed mind. Forget it and move on. Let the howlers howl. You dominated them on every thread yesterday and this is the only tripe they can catch you on.
Sad for you leon
November 27, 2007 - 18:26 ET by RJthat you're reduced to attempting to bolster and defend this barking moonbat, this "Professor" of Melodrama and Meltdowns.
What's next on your downward sprial? Embrace Monty lyons? rhayes?
OK RJ, You're just mad
November 27, 2007 - 18:30 ET by LeonOK RJ,
You're just mad b/c he's dominated you relentlessly to the point that you reverted to some sort of shrieking animal.
There was nothing offensive about what he said. Celebrating killing, regardless of who it is, is sick. Period.
My Grandfather killed a lot of Germans and he survived the war, but he was NEVER happy about it. Sure he had to do it, but he would never have said something so crass as the only thing you should feel when you kill a German is the rifle recoil.
It's a twisted sentiment. Sorry that you like to celebrate killing other human beings. Just not my cup of tea.
Nah, leon. I own the Perfesser
November 27, 2007 - 18:34 ET by RJ...ever since he blundered into my trap and proved himself a hypocrit and fascist.
If you had actually read the thread (why did you feel the need to lie about it, leon?) you would have read AF's discussion of why he uses the tag and how he feels about killing others.
Tsk, tsk, leon....caught in another lie..... ;^)
Just like Charlie Brown's
November 27, 2007 - 18:38 ET by LeonJust like Charlie Brown's mom.
Wa Wa Wa Wa Wa Waaaaa
Oooh, that's a biting response, leon
November 27, 2007 - 18:44 ET by RJ....but i undestand. What else could you do when caught in another lie?
ERRJ, still pawning off your mentally defective
November 27, 2007 - 20:14 ET by professor truthideas, I see. Here is some info regarding war crimes: I'm trying to raise your IQ a point or two. Maybe someday, you'll hit that magic triple digit mark:
War crimes are violations by a country, its civilians, or its
military personnel of the international laws of war. The laws of war
are laws that must be obeyed by the United States, its officials and
its military, and by the UN. The laws are contained in treaties that
the U.S. has signed, for example the Geneva Convention of 1949 on
Prisoners of War. They are reflected in what is called customary
international law. This law has arisen over hundreds if not thousands
of years. All countries must obey it.
War crimes are divided into two broad categories. The first
are called crimes against peace. Crimes against peace include the
planning, preparation, or initiation of a war of aggression. In other
words one country cannot make aggressive war against another country.
Nor can a country settle a dispute by war; it must always, and in good
faith, negotiate a settlement. The second category are what we can call
crimes against humanity; I am including here crimes against civilians
and soldiers. These are violations of the rules as to the means and
manner by which war is to be conducted once begun. These include the
following prohibitions: killing of civilians, indiscriminate bombing,
the use of certain types of weapons, killing of defenseless soldiers,
ill treatment of POWs and attacks on non-military targets.
Any violation of these two sets of laws is a war crime; if the
violations are done on purpose, recklessly or knowingly, they are
considered very serious and called grave breaches; Nazis and Japanese
following World War II were hanged for such grave breaches.
I still think you owe AF an apology.
November 27, 2007 - 20:23 ET by Free StinkerI still think you owe AF an apology.
Gee, "Perfesser Fascist", you're a real chest-puffing blow-hard
November 27, 2007 - 20:26 ET by RJLOL! You actually think it raises your credibility to copy from some treatise or other? (don't bother denying it - there's a difference in style and syntax from your usual postings)
Are you really gonna try to pass this off as your own?
What a barking moonbat.
What is the Definition Of Plagarism ?
November 27, 2007 - 20:33 ET by Free StinkerHere is one possible source for the Profs "work"
Check out the 4th and 5th and 6th paragraphs.
Ha! Great catch FreeStinker. Plagiarist, liar, fascist, hypocrit
November 27, 2007 - 20:37 ET by RJThe "Perfesser" is touching all the bases.....
Their was nothing wrong
November 27, 2007 - 19:14 ET by well99Their was nothing wrong with AFs saying about recoil.It didnt say anything about celebrating the death.Their is nothing twisted about it.I have no sympathy for these scuts. Reasons why.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/24/iraq.main/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/02/18/iraq.main/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/world/middleeast/06iraq.html?ref=world
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/28/iraq.main/
Those scuts are even targeting children
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4678207.stm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/27/AR2007022700266.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071300336.html
Or using children as decoys
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070320203409.spj83omw&show_article=1
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/21/news/iraq.php
These are deliberate acts.It is the strategy they have employed.They will get no empathy from me.
Leon, you stated my sentiments exactly
November 27, 2007 - 18:36 ET by professor truthMy point was and is that certain things should be kept private for obvious reasons. Imagine if a family member had been murdered and you hear someone joking about a killing he's performed. It's out of line and shouldn't be public.
I think more than it's out
November 27, 2007 - 18:41 ET by LeonI think more than it's out of line, it's just bizarre.
Why is that the one sentence that you would want to use to represent yourself to strangers?
People I know that have killed in war never talk about it and would DEFINITELY never make light of it, like Airforce has.
It's truly disturbing. I'd just ignore them and forget about it. Keep doing what you're doing. It's driving little miss RJ up the wall.
leon is back in the bathroom stall with his laptop
November 27, 2007 - 18:46 ET by RJ....end of the day fantasies, leon? Yuk....how creepy.
Leon the narcissistic contributer of nothing. As usual.
November 27, 2007 - 18:54 ET by Six String SpiffDo you take pride in holding up the giant "I'm an asshole!" sign? The way you talk down to people on this thread and ATTEMPT to insult them just highlights all that is wrong with my/YOUR generation. You are a puke. You are the reason why people my age are laughed at and given 'young and stupid credits'. I guarantee you wouldn't even mumble one of your snarky comments to somebody in person for fear of tasting their shoes. Pathetic keyboard warrior.
Islamic Religious Services Will Be Held at the Firing Range At 0800 Daily.
Six String, You run
November 28, 2007 - 10:01 ET by LeonSix String,
You run around her using profanity and insulting everyone that disagrees with you and your going to try to claim that I'm an embarassment?
haha.
I'm just curious, if you don't mind me asking, what is it that you even do? There's no way you have a career considering the immature way in which you conduct yourself. You wouldn't last 5 minutes in a real corporate environment. My guess is that you're either in some sort of retail (that would explain your tremendous temper and self-loathing) or you work for your parents. So which is it? Or do you even work? I'm curious as to what someone with your utter lack of self-control and self-restraint could possibly do for a career.
Nice....
November 28, 2007 - 10:11 ET by Sua Sponte 75"You wouldn't last 5 minutes in a real corporate environment"..............
Bwahahahahahahaha...I think I found a new tag line....
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Allow me to revise: any
November 28, 2007 - 10:19 ET by LeonAllow me to revise:
any real business environment.
Read his posts. It's like watching a child spin in circles on the grocery store floor because mommy won't buy him Count Chocula.
I've seen....
November 28, 2007 - 10:25 ET by Sua Sponte 75just the same from you. Just because someone is a little rough around the edges doens't mean much. Not cowering is admirable.
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Sua, I have never used
November 28, 2007 - 10:27 ET by LeonSua,
I have never used profanity. Not once.
Didn't say...
November 28, 2007 - 10:29 ET by Sua Sponte 75you had. I was more referring to the spinning in circles.
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Ah Sure Sua, But I think
November 28, 2007 - 10:33 ET by LeonAh Sure Sua,
But I think you could argue that's a lot of spinning in circles on this website.
I was simply referring to Six String's complete lack of decency and self-control. Say what you will about me, but I have self-control and I don't use profanity. Even in the face of multiple posters ruthlessly attacking me, I don't lose my cool.
That's the difference between six string and I even though we're the same age. I just have more education and more real-world work experience. That's always the difference between people in their mid-20's. I think this is a point in life where you see the biggest disparities between individuals. I'm constantly shocked at how immature so many of the people my age are. Their parents still pay for their rent and their cell phones. Mommy still does the laundry. It's a sad state of affairs. You can tell by Six String's childish temper and inability to control himself that he falls into this category. All that means is he hasn't had enough life experience. It's a shame but he'll catch up someday in his 30's.
Sure is...
November 28, 2007 - 10:37 ET by Sua Sponte 75and a majority I see from those who when faced with the facts as usual attempt to de-rail. Not going to attempt to "theorize" based on a blog.
It is what it is.
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Sua, Indeed. That
November 28, 2007 - 10:40 ET by LeonSua,
Indeed. That sounds wise.
Sua:3 Leon: nil
November 28, 2007 - 10:49 ET by Free StinkerSua: 3
Leon: 0
Just...
November 28, 2007 - 10:52 ET by Sua Sponte 75my $0.02 worth, I'd have to say that there is no better sound than hearing "Tango Down" over the radio.
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
I agree Sua. If you want
November 28, 2007 - 10:55 ET by LeonI agree Sua. If you want to win, you have to kill terrorists/insurgents. it's hard work and when you win it's a great feeling.
However, I wouldn't then cheapen the accomplishment of victory with some bogus line like the one Airforce is sporting.
Well...
November 28, 2007 - 11:07 ET by Sua Sponte 75that's your perogative. It's only bogus if YOU say it is and that's what you believe. Maybe if you were or ever are in a situation it would be much clearer. I'm not going to sugar coat it, I take pleasure in ensuring the enemy gives his life for his god/country. That's one less chucklehead for me to be concerned with. The only people that cheapen accomplishments seem to be the liberals/left wingers who lack any objectivity, intelligence, integrity, honesty, common sense and lastly the ability to look in the mirror and recognize what a clown they are for convoluting the integrity of our system, polluting the minds of the young and the impressionable and are asshats for tarnishing the beauty of a system that no matter how much they despise it and attempt to subvert it, it remains in place to ensure that clowns like them have the right to continue to do so as they wish, and at the expense of the people they express this endless contempt for.
"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil ... you know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." Lieutenant General James Mattis, USMC, former First Marine Division CO
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
Again Sua, I repsect your
November 28, 2007 - 11:19 ET by LeonAgain Sua,
I repsect your opinion as you clearly have more experience than I do so far be it from me to tell you that you are wrong.
However, I believe that it is killing is not something that should make anyone feel good, regardless of the reasons behind it. You can rationalize it and you are justified in killing in many instances, but that doesn't mean you should get joy from it.
You should feel joy that you and your buddies are still alive b/c your enemy is dead, but taking pleasure in the actual act is not a healthy mindset. You kill b/c it's your job and your duty and it's necessary to complete the mission. You don't kill b/c it's fun.
That's just my opinion.
Leon the narcissistic contributer of nothing. As usual.
November 29, 2007 - 14:53 ET by Six String SpiffYou continue to prove you are a narcissist. Why is it that no matter WHAT is said to you, your lame retort is equivalent to "Yo mama!". Why is it you must continuously inquire to the profession of the individual you are insulting? I am an electronics technician. I do component level repair on SMT and through hole technology. Care to tell me what the bias needs to be for an IGBT to turn on all the way with 300VDC Isolated? Or, explain to me how an analog to digital converter works? Not that I should humor you with that information, 'big guy'. I don't care what job you have, and have never equated it to how you behave on these threads. Your smarmy attitude is constantly on display for everyone to determine who the waste of text is. Quit wasting your time insisting I am using foul language. My posts have been clean for some time now. Get back to your 'corporate environment'. Please... You are something else. The shallow, insecure one ALWAYS has to compare...
He Peon - I mean Leon - the
November 28, 2007 - 15:27 ET by JimboHe Peon - I mean Leon - the tagline is nothing new...it's been around for some time now. Why do you have a problem with it only now that your friend Professor Asshat has an issue with it? I guess we can add follower to your resume.
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
I guess we can add follower to your resume.
November 28, 2007 - 15:33 ET by MightyMouth"Lapdog" would be appropiate also jimbo...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Imagine if a family member had been murdered...
November 28, 2007 - 11:11 ET by MightyMouthAhh... so you equate what a soldier does in defense of his country with 'murder'.
You could not have picked a more contradictory user name for your trolling on NB. Congrats.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Hey Leon -
November 27, 2007 - 19:21 ET by JimboHey Leon - what do you have to say about this?
Leon says "By the way, I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm repulsed"
Truth Monger Says - "Both are religions [Christianity & Islam], yes - with the same percentage of terrorists."
You know Leon, I have talk
November 27, 2007 - 20:42 ET by Airforce_5_OYou know Leon, I have talk to you off line and I have shown you nothing but respect. You have just shown me that your respect in our conversations was just a façade. I have never attacked you but have disagreed and now you associate yourself with this jackass.
Unreal.
For your information I find bumper stickers to ugly and don’t put them on my vehicles.
Disturbed mind Leon, no more then your fetish of fat people.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
I agree
November 28, 2007 - 09:56 ET by LeonI agree Airforce,
However, I don't see how the guy I've spoken to offline could put such a ridiculous tag on everyone of his posts.
Sorry I think it's a disturbing tagline and I can't figure out why a reasonable, rational, and friendly guy such as yourself would want to use such a violent sentiment to represent himself. It doesn't describe you or your behavior on this website at all.
I just don't get it.
Okay Leon...
November 28, 2007 - 13:47 ET by Airforce_5_OI can understand you not understanding (not a problem) but you know I am no psychotic. Come on. If I was as disturbed as Prof the Judge makes me out to be, I should be picking off co-eds from a water tower.
By the way yoiu might want to steer clear of Professor. He admitted to Blonde he was 6'2" and 290lb. WOW!!!
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
AF, perhaps you should
November 28, 2007 - 14:13 ET by bassndudeAF, perhaps you should change your tag line to something with a little more feeling.
A) .308 holes make invisiable souls.
B) 671 grains, making martyrs at 400 yards.
C) Kill them all, let God sort them out. (This one is a personal favorite of mine. I had a full color red and yellow skull with flames tatooed on my left sholder while in Vietnam, and the SOG, CCC emblem tatooed over my heart.) It loses something without the graphic tho.
And there is the one, "You can run. But you'll just die tired."
A little feeling goes a long way to making Leon and the Prof feel better.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
AF, 6'2" and 290 pounds?
November 28, 2007 - 14:15 ET by bassndudeA little on the fat side aint he?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Bass, I'm 54 and have had two recent surgeries
November 28, 2007 - 14:21 ET by professor truthso cut me some slack. Up until marriage, I weighed between 210 to 230 lbs. In my thirties, I weighed between 190 and 220 lbs. Big deal. Who cares? Why would anyone talk about the weight of people. This site is for politics.
But, Perfesser Plagarist, your buddy leon HATES fat people
November 28, 2007 - 14:27 ET by RJ...absolutely hates and despises them....
It's the conservatives on this site who have tried to show him the error of his ways....to no avail. The man is obsessed on the subject.
I can confirm that
November 28, 2007 - 14:31 ET by Free StinkerI can confirm that.
Leon started a whole thread about it. Really.
"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
This the one you're referring to Free?
November 28, 2007 - 14:38 ET by MassConservhttp://newsbusters.org/forums/woodshed/voluntary-plague-16075
As a matter of fact,
November 28, 2007 - 15:15 ET by Free StinkerAs a matter of fact, yes.
I hope the Prof reads that to find out what his "Pal" Leon really thinks.
"George W. Bush simply reminds leftists everyday what they will never be. And they hate him for it." --Tammy Bruce
you clearly represent an example of how
November 28, 2007 - 14:36 ET by professor truthfacts get DISTORTED. Calling me a plagiarist is misleading and dishonest. Be factually accurate and say,"perfesser one time only inadvertent plagiarist" and a more accurate, honest description of me
is the result. But, your intention seems to be about deception, so you dishonestly use the plagiarist word, even after I explained that I had no intent to plagiarize. I guess I could 'accurately" call you a "potential child molester" in the same honest manner, after all, you do have that potential, even if you don't actually do it. Be honest in your posts.
"perfesser one time only inadvertent plagiarist"
November 28, 2007 - 14:40 ET by MightyMouthRight.. and Bill Clinton was a "one time only inadvertent fellatio recipient".
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
speaking of liars
November 28, 2007 - 16:59 ET by professor truththat means George Bush is a LIAR beyond dispute:
Remember, the"I'm a uniter, not a divider?" SUPER BIG LIE!
Amen brother! Preach it!!
November 28, 2007 - 17:41 ET by MightyMouth"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Distortion, Perfesser Plagarist? Hardly.
November 28, 2007 - 15:08 ET by RJFunny thing, I just checked and if you "explained", it wasn't at the point of offense. That would be the usual place to "explain", I think. Did you hide your "explanation" at the bottom of one of your pompous diatribes?
Distortion? Hardly. You put out a post that had no attribution or quotation marks. I immediately challenged you, with no response. FS then found your source and posted it. Still no response from you. You continued to post during this time, so trying to say you didn't see the challenges won't wash. Distortion? Hardly. Suck it up, Perfesser. You done it.
And "potential child molester?" Hahaha. That's lame. A potential act is the same as an act already performed? You're truly logically challenged, Perfesser. :^)
I already anwered your moronic accusation:
November 28, 2007 - 17:34 ET by professor truthplagiarism is a DELIBERATE attempt to take credit for ideas that are someone else's. Deliberate plagiarists will not take ideas WORD FOR WORD because it's too easy for even double digit IQ sleuths like you to discover them. There are 2 possibilities: I was lazy and inattentive or in a hurry and didn't want to bother with details OR I was EVIL, SINISTER, LIBERAL and PLANNED this CRIME under the GRAND ASSUMPTION that the quote would be MORE CREDIBLE IF IT WAS MINE. Now, my dimwitted, low IQ fool, WHY am I going to DELIBERATELY PLAGIARIZE when I have LESS CREDIBILITY vs an attributed quote? A COMPLETE FOOL who is convinced of the truth has already mapped out the sinister PLOT and knows all the answers and is just waiting for his confirmation through belligerent, continuous questioning. Moron, when did you stop beating your wife? Give me the answer. You are truly a work of art.
Tsk, tsk, Perfesser Plagiarist...temper temper
November 28, 2007 - 18:09 ET by RJWith all that SHOUTING, people might begin to think you're foaming at the mouth....and maybe a little psychotic.... ;^)
As I said, I challenged you right away. So did FS. But no response from you. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Zip.
So where is this great "explanation" that you've mentioned twice now, Perfesser Plagiarist?....buried at the bottom of another of your pontificating diatribes? 'Cause it still ain't at the point of the offense, where anyone with an ounce of logic or honesty might think to put it, so that it doesn't sit out there as if it really does belong to you.
So, with the smoking gun of no attribution, no quotation marks, and no "explanation"....well, you get the picture.
Even your latest post is more along the lines of OJ's book "If I Did It", than an open admission of error. (And how deliciously ironic that is, considering you've been accusing AF of sharing OJ's characteristics)
Oh, and I love the Drama Queen theatrics, Perf..."sinister plot?" "EVIL, SINISTER, LIBERAL and PLANNED this CRIME under the GRAND ASSUMPTION?" hahaha.
Prof, I am 5'9", weigh
November 28, 2007 - 14:38 ET by bassndudeProf, I am 5'9", weigh about 180 most of the time. I have had 3 recent sutgeries, left knee twice in the last year, and my left sholder about 18 months ago. I work out, even tho it hurts like the dickens sometimes. If it wasent for celebrex, I couldent get out of bed somedays. My bench press is back up to 250, not bad for having not been able to get to the weights for 3 months. May is when I had my last surgery. I will cut you as much slack as I cut myself. More even.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
bass, when you get to be 54 you might
November 28, 2007 - 17:06 ET by professor truthbe surprised at how difficult it is to bounce back from surgeries. Everyone is different. In my twenties, my weight was between 190 and 220. In my thirties it went up 5 or ten pounds. In my early forties, I could still maintain a200 to 220 range, after marriage it's up to between 275 and 295lbs. People don't realize that it's a lot tougher to keep off weight when you are older. I averaged 5000 to 10000 miles annually on bicycle in my mid twenties to mid thirties. I don't ride more than a mile now.
Professor, we all egt the
November 28, 2007 - 14:39 ET by Airforce_5_OProfessor, we all egt the spare tire, my friend Leon thinks the fat are the end of world as we know it.
Hey I 6' 2" 242lb. I would love to get back down to 220.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
I object AF. I do not have
November 28, 2007 - 16:37 ET by bassndudeI object AF. I do not have a spare tire. Unless it is on the SUV or my 4X4. I had one, several years back, dident like it, so started working out again. It has been gone for a few years now, and I work at keeping it gone. I dont want it, it takes up weight in the boat that is better devoted to tackel and fish.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Bass
November 28, 2007 - 17:08 ET by Airforce_5_OI got a cousin like you Bass. He can eat all day and not gain a pound. You are one of those freaks on nature bass, born and built to fish.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
Here you go Professor
November 27, 2007 - 20:32 ET by Airforce_5_OOk Professor here you go:
You imply that I am unstable
You've just described the characteristic of a cold blooded killer. It's too bad that this kind of thinking exists in the military. Don't think about his family, kids, parents and other loved ones, just the recoil of the rifle. You sound like one, real dangerous dude to society. Talk about ticking time bombs!
You compare me and another blogger to a Killer.
Do you think that killing someone while only thinking about the rifle recoil is NORMAL??? I guess you and OJ do have something in common.
Then you stated I boasted about killingand that stating it publicly like a badge of honor is psychotic and unless you think that a cold blooded killing is normal, you should agree with me. Air force had to do his job but he should keep his boasting about killing to himself.
Here you state I am a killer. I will never and have never boasted about killing anyone. Now apologize as promised.
Your politically correct policing of what I put in my taglines do not scare me and I, just to stick it in you craw will not change it.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
AF, your tagline IMPLIES a BOAST of KILLING
November 27, 2007 - 20:59 ET by professor truthand I also stated that "you had a job to do and you needed to do what was necessary", and I never criticized you for this either. What 'job' is that ?? I didn't criticize your job, but when you unecessarily bring into the public, YOU imply that YOU are a cold blooded killer in a boastful manner. You accused me of calling you a psychotic killer. Well, based on your proud display about your feeling when you kill insurgents, what reasonable conclusions should someone who reads this out of context should have. The fact that youdisplay this proudly is psychotic. Why would anyone talk about this in public unless they were psychotic? I assumed you killed as a soldier, and I NEVER CRITICIZED YOU FOR IT! The criticism came from your proud display of something that should remain private. Once agin, I stated you had a "job" to do and you did itand my criticism wasn't that you needed to kill but that you boasted about it, which would characterize seriously psychotic behavior. It's inappropriate and should have remained out of public view.
I still think you owe AF an apology.
November 27, 2007 - 21:03 ET by Free StinkerI still think you owe AF an apology.
FS, sorry!
November 27, 2007 - 21:10 ET by professor truthThe remark is inappropriate and I drew reasonable conclusions from it .
It's YOUR remark that's inappropriate, "Perfesser".
November 27, 2007 - 21:19 ET by RJ...and the conclusion I draw from your small-minded, anal-retentive need to constantly, repetitively, insult this veteran because you despise the military is that it's clearly YOU who displays a psychosis.
So it is a reasonable
November 27, 2007 - 21:23 ET by Airforce_5_OSo it is a reasonable conclusion now? You are just freaking pathetic. I am psychotic and you are resonable. Just another smug snooty down your nose comment to the "poor dumb military" guy.
Here is a reasonable conclusion from your post.
You know nothing about me.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
AF, I do know one thing about you
November 27, 2007 - 22:13 ET by professor truthand that is you insist on publicly displaying clearly psychotic statements. The fact that others support you on this says a lot more about their mental state than it says about mine. Any non combat civilian who reads that will conclude that this guy is a dangerous psychotic who is obsessed with killing and displays this obsession proudly. I don't think there's a boss who would ever hire such a person if he put what you continue to write on a job application. You might be the most stable person in the world but most people will conclude the opposite, despite what your sycophants like Blonde, FS, RJ and any other supporter states.
It's YOU who displays a psychosis, Perfesser Plagarist
November 27, 2007 - 22:19 ET by RJYour inability to stop your repetitive attacks on this veteran is clearly psychotic.
You're one sick puppy, Perfesser Plagarist...and a liar, too.
wrong again Profff
November 27, 2007 - 22:22 ET by botgAny non combat civilian who reads that will conclude that this guy is a dangerous psychotic who is obsessed
I can falsify that assertion
BTW you make the best case for school vouchers i've heard in a long time
GoHunter08
botg, I should have added
November 27, 2007 - 22:29 ET by professor truthto the sentence, "any non combat civilian who reads this will conclude that this guy is a dangerous psychotic who is obsessed", should be added after 'civilian' the words "who is not psychotic themselves and"
which covers your case ,botg.
well profff
November 27, 2007 - 22:37 ET by botgi see you are certified to administer the MMPI.
so much for your no name-calling
GoHunter08
Typical liberal fare, I
November 28, 2007 - 11:36 ET by CortillaenTypical liberal fare, I suppose. "If you don't agree with me you're psychotic. Oh, and the military men and women are insane killers..."
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
Woah, Bot
November 27, 2007 - 22:30 ET by BlondeThat comment deserved a "put your drink down" alert.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
botg, if you were a student of mine
November 27, 2007 - 22:32 ET by professor truthI'd pray that you got one.
actually Mr Holland
November 27, 2007 - 22:39 ET by botgpray to what?
GoHunter08
And a Hearty Thank You to AF for his service to our Country!
November 28, 2007 - 14:19 ET by Free StinkerAny non combat civilian who reads that will conclude that this guy is a dangerous psychotic who is obsessed
I'm a non combat civilian who read it, and I concluded that AF is one of those honorable people who joined the military, and took the job of protecting the USA seriously.
And a Hearty Thank You to AF for his service to our Country!
Professor Politicaly Correct
November 27, 2007 - 22:44 ET by Airforce_5_OWhy continue down this path that when proven wrong on your statements you can do nothing but question our mental state. Realize this I have plenty of friends who are non military and non combatants in this world and guess what, I am normal.
You sit on your seat of judgment having no clue to who I am or what I do. You have belittled and insulted and have only firmed my resolve that you and liberals like you must not reach power in this country during times of war. You do nothing but talk. You will not step up and take the action necessary to insure the safety of this nation. You will never be able to pull the trigger or get your hands dirty in a time of crisis.
Reason is a great tool if you can reason with other powers, but whether you like it or not a person like me has to put the foot in someone’s ass to get it done, Sorry you lost your lunch money as a child and got your ass beat by the bully and me, being psychotic, hit the dirty bastard in the mouth. I got to eat that day.
Just as an aside, I work as a trainer, meaning I must have teaching credentials to do it. So your smug “I’m more educated then you” attitude is just too much. You are a hack and I am so glad my kids don’t have you as a teacher. Your liberal slip would show way too much here.
Finally I will not broach the subject of my tagline with you again. You have been given the chance to apologize for it and said that you would if prove you called me a killer. All here have seen the evidence and you are not a man of your word. You have no honor. You have no credibility. Most of all you have no clue.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
AF, here is my response:
November 28, 2007 - 12:47 ET by professor truthI assumed your job was killing and I NEVER CRITICIZED THIS! There is a fine line between necessary killing and a psychotic, this is fun and I'm really liking this killing. Nobody is going to criticize anyone who kills in a war context, so be clear on this. Now you were able to construct my sentences so that you could claim I called you a "psychotic murderer." I NEVER USED the "murderer" word so this little sleight of hand allowed you to exaggerate the context of my comments. I EMPHASIZED that MY MAJOR complaint was that your comment should not be made in public, for the simple reason that people will interpret the comment as coming from someone who has a psychotic behavior BECAUSE they appear to be boasting over having thoughts about shooting people.
If you were to put this on a job application, I doubt that any boss would hire you, for the simple fact that if you turned out to be a psychotic and harmed another worker, the company could easily be held liable. Now, you say there is nothing wrong with you, yet you stated an implied threat to me on an earlier post(something like "you don't know who you're messing with") . Now, personally, I have NEVER made any implied threats to anyone on any post, but I've observed such posts on other sites. My immediate thought was,"this guy has a serious problem." My main point is when most people see that post, they think that the poster is an unstable person who needs some serious counseling.
Here's another thing, AF. You sound JUST LIKE A BULLY with your "now go run home to momma" remark that you also posted.
So, despite your claims, you definitely have some issues. Just like you "know" what kind of teacher I am,(based on absolutely NO EVIDENCE), I claim to "know" that you have some serious issues
with much more evidence. Now, here's what you wrote:
You do nothing but talk. You will not step up and take the action
necessary to insure the safety of this nation. You will never be able
to pull the trigger or get your hands dirty in a time of crisis.
You better say the same for Dick"I had other priorities" Cheney and George"lil awol" Bush, who stepped up as much as I did. You presume agin with NO EVIDENCE that I could never pull the trigger in a time of crisis. You have no idea howI would react to such a crisis, but you make completely unsuported assertions.
The war in Iraq has not made us any more secure, and there is ZERO evidence to contradict this statement. In fact, since we've invaded Iraq, worldwide terrorism has increased dramatically. Domestic laws of repression have INCREASED since the war. FOX 'terror alerts" have stayed the same. So, there has been NO EVIDENCE to support your claim that fighting in Iraq protects freedom, in fact, a much better case can be stated that it has had the opoosite effect, creating a more repressive environment of secret spying, wiretapping, and other privacy invasions.
Here's your next comment:Reason is a great tool if you can reason with other powers, but whether
you like it or not a person like me has to put the foot in someone’s
ass to get it done, Sorry you lost your lunch money as a child and got
your ass beat by the bully and me, being psychotic, hit the dirty
bastard in the mouth. I got to eat that day.
That's good that you can defend yourself like that. Generally, being big gave me a pass with the bulllies so I never needed to do what you did. I usually tried to solve conflicts through non violent paths. Did you ever try this? I didn't lose any lunch money, being big enough to be a lineman on our football team.
Here's your next comment:
Just as an aside, I work as a trainer, meaning I must have teaching
credentials to do it. So your smug “I’m more educated then you”
attitude is just too much. You are a hack and I am so glad my kids
don’t have you as a teacher. Your liberal slip would show way too much
here.
Now, generally, stating that one is a high school chemistry teacher is not a great boast for someone's education, but YOU have REPEATEDLY stated how I have no idea how the military works!! Again, no facts, just another assertion masquerading as fact.
I've never been in the military, but my dad was an army captain in WWII who didn't see any active duty but did a SERIOUS ROLE for ending the war in the pacific. So you attack me as a teacher, say I have no clue how the military works with ZERO FACTS!
Regarding my apology, I will apologize for giving you the impression that I called you a psychotic killer. I apologize.
Lastly, you talk about defending my freedom of speech. But in your posts, you seem to want to CENSOR my speech with implied threats. Care to reconcile this, AF?
Ahhh...
November 28, 2007 - 12:58 ET by Sua Sponte 75the old AWOL Bush mantra....was wondering when that was going to come out. Took a bit longer than I had expected. Rich, just too rich...
"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"
The Plagarizing Perfesser, after attempting to stifle AF's free
November 28, 2007 - 13:06 ET by RJspeech over and over, then tries to claim AF is trying to stifle his....a classic liberal tactic of accusing others of what you are already doing.
And Perfesser Plagarist, try to duck as much as you want, but you called AF a murderer when you equated him to OJ Simpson.
"Oh, but I didn't use the actual word" you whine "sorry you misunderstood me", you whine...a pathetic, cowardly cop-out...
Professor Pup
November 28, 2007 - 14:07 ET by Airforce_5_OI love watching the puppy chase his tail....Sorry professor you had your lunch money taken.
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
Here is one for ya, see if you can tell me who said this:
Killing is my business, and business is good!!!!
I know I'm poking the puppy with a stick but man is it fun!!!!!
Read again Professor. I
November 28, 2007 - 14:24 ET by Airforce_5_ORead again Professor. I never attacked your freedom of speech or to state your opinion, my whole thing was your calling me psychotic and a killer.
If anyone has tried to take freedom of speech it is you by telling me what tagline to use.
Also I would like to say thanks to your father and his service. We are loosing more and more of the Great Generation who faught. I had 3 uncles in WWII, 2 in Nam, me and my 2 brothers all served. I come from a military family. My father never served because of me and my brother. I can respect that Prof.
But don't assume you know me by a tagline and I will back off.
Agreed?
Time to push on.
Do you still say that a soldier fighting in Iraq is not fighting for your freedom?
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
AF, it was NEVER my intent to deny your speech.
November 28, 2007 - 17:21 ET by professor truthThis false assertion continues to be made to the point that it is downright dishonest. Recommending that someone not post something in public is no more censorship than SUGGESTING that certain words not be stated in certain environments. Imagine if someone went into church screamingt obscenities . Would telling that person that his behavior is inappropriate be an act of censorship. I have no power to censor someone, so the issue should have been whether or not the comment should be publicly made, and the consequences for posting this. I play chess and personally, would not be afraid of you poking out my eye with a chesspiece. The point is that people who don't know where you are coming from are going to make conclusions that this person is dangerous, and if you were to state this during a job interview, I seriously doubt that anyone who didn't know where you were coming from would want you employed with them since they would see such a person as a ticking time bomb. Personally, if we met without knowing each other, we might be very civil as long as politics were left out of the equation. I 've talked to guys who claimed they were special forces with no problems. I've traveled with an ex vietnam vet for a couple of days with no problems. Now, I'll assume your "puppy" banter is just normal fun trash talk, BUT, if you were serious, that would suggest another bullylike comment. If you didn't want to deny my speech, you shouldn't have made indirect threats like"you don't know who you're messing with."
Okay Professor
November 28, 2007 - 17:28 ET by Airforce_5_OWell from now on please ask what the point of the tag was and not jump to conclusions. Agreed.
We are over that, Let us press on...Don't think I'm not going to rib you on the psychotic thing though.
Can we debate with out the crap now?
The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.
AF, again, I give apologies
November 28, 2007 - 17:38 ET by professor truthfor my comments. Agreed, let's debate other issues from now on.
Killing insurgents IS a
November 28, 2007 - 18:31 ET by kathleenirishKilling insurgents IS a good thing. Keeping them from killing Americans IS a good thing. Appreciating the fact that there are men and women like Airforce who would protect YOU from insurgents, bent on killing YOU, should be the best thing of all....but limp-wristed, nihilistic liberals like yourself don't get it.
Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar.
Your comment is provably false:
November 28, 2007 - 18:52 ET by professor truthAnyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar.
In WWI, troops in foxholes were ordered to attack the enemy, a suicidal mission with no purpose other than to give the generals something to call a success. Millions of soldiers died in the vain and useless purpose of attacking the enemy's position. In this specific case, supporting the troops would be OPPOSING the useless, unnecessary, suicide mission. The OCCUPATION of Iraq does NOTHING to bring freedom to the US, in fact it does the exact oposite. NOT A SINGLE IRAQI HAS attacked the US mainland. THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE to connect the Iraq war and our freedom in the US. In fact, we are having to suffer from the trillion dollars AND INCREASING along with over 4 thousand dead soldiers, 30 thousand injuries, thousands of PTSD victims and (I heard this on the Randi Rhodes show) 150 thousand concussion injuries that is being covered up, along with all the suicides that have occurred from this war. Equating support of war profiteers with supporting the troops is false. Supporting the troops means different things to different people but to me, it means sending them to war ONLY WHEN IT IS an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY, providing them top equipment(not the Rummy comment"you go to war with the army you have"), and making damn sure that soldiers are IMMEDIATELY removed from the field when they have timely medical needs, and that the government who sends them to war makes damn sure the families are economically taken care of, no matter what the cost is, and that there are no homeless or forgotten vets, and that every vet gets the best care possible to avoid possible problems. That's how I support the troops. It's called TAXES or SHARED SACRIFICE!
Professor trulib..........Baloney
November 28, 2007 - 19:04 ET by JayTeeYou said so much that was just wrong, starting with WWI and Iraq for one, But I'll zero in on your comment that ..
"it means sending them to war ONLY WHEN IT IS an ABSOLUTE NECESSITY"
I think WWII taught us that Chamberland returning home with a "Treaty with Hitler" and going to war ONLY WHEN It was an Absolute necessity left Hitler killing Millions and Occupying France/Poland/Italy and troops in Africa before the Troops were thought of as Absolute necessity and sent in to North Africa.
After Staligrad was bombed into Rubble, the Russian tore up their treaty and considered the NECESSITY for Troops.
Do you actually FAVOR a repeat of WWII ? Appeasement before War ?
History Teaches, we learned from WWI, Trench warfare hasn't been repeated,
we learned from WWII, Appeasement doesn't work,
and now Osama and crew have Learned what Japan learned, if you attack the USA, we come after you...... from the Phillipines to Iraq.
Safe since 9/11 applies to USA, not Osama and not to Terrorists. GIve WAR a chance, the peace was killing us.
Go watch REDACTED professor, there you will find another 30 or 40 dummy's that agree with you.
What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ? David Foote GoE
Not sure how going back to
November 28, 2007 - 19:31 ET by BuffNBoneNot sure how going back to WWI is germane to discussions about today's situation but since you have cranked up the way back machine “War is nothing more than the continuation of politics by other means.” attributed to K v Clausewitz I believe C's use of politics also included diplomacy. The elements of power available to us are military, diplomatic (political), economic, and informational. They are complex and interrelated and are used in combination. One of the problems is the assymetric nature of what is going on. For the most part, we play by the rules (Geneva Convention, Just War, UCMJ)--they do not.
Though technically correct, your assertion "occupation of Iraq does nothing to bring freedom to the US" is, in my opinion, misleading. What it does help sustain it here. Also, "occupation" taken in the wrong hands is signifcantly more inflammatory than AF50's tagline. The KIA, WIA, and PTSD you cite are the regrettable consequences of employing the military element of power given today's lethality and the assymetric nature of the battle. I believe the numbers are where they are in large measure due to efforts of "well intended" toads (politicos and media) who take things out of perspective and then prolong the coverage well beyond what is needed. Abu Grhaib was wrong but equating it to beheadings etc. does us all a disservice. Simple counts of the articles or words would bear this point out. Much the same as Gen Gaip NVN, today's adversaries are content to play a waiting game.
I asked you a couple of questions yesterday. Still hoping for answers. Do you think the 9/11 terrorist would have taken out 30K or 300K American civilians if they could have? If they had access to WMD of any kind they would have hesitated to use them?
I'd much rather the battle fought there than here.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
You are inappropriate
November 27, 2007 - 21:25 ET by BlondeBut keep it up, censor boy.
You libs are so predictable.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive