Lets talk about the Republicans. We are the ones that want to do off shore drilling and drill in Alaska. We are the ones that want to build nuclear power plants. The price of oil is set by supply and demand. The price of oil jumped to a high of $104.00 per barrel today because Opec is going to cut back on production. The instability of Iraq has nothing to do with it.

The reason the Republicans are "in trouble" is because of how their indiscretions and mistakes are portrayed in the media. The Dems would be in trouble too if their mistakes and crimes were treated the same.

When talking about the influence of Hollywood and the media you have to bring up how the stuff is portrayed on both sides. It's not deflecting - it's central to the argument. /p>

because it made me sick from the start. His guilty plea (or wasn't it no contest?) was to avoid publicity. I can't believe that he would have been found guilty. If he would have then it would have been outrageous beyond belief that foot movements could be cause for arrest let alone conviction. Wanting to have Gay sex in public is not a crime even if they could prove his movements meant he wanted it! Actually having sex (Gay or not) in public is a crime and they didn't catch him doing that.

If you shoplift something in a store, they can't even get you until you leave the store because you may have not gone through with it. Craig could have been just seeing what would happen and if he got a favorable response he could have suggested they go somewhere else or chickened out all together. There is no way of knowing.

Yes I think it's likely that he wanted to solicit sex but what I think and what anyone else thinks doesn't matter. He didn't do anything illegal.

I find it especially ironic how intolerant liberals are when this is an obvious discrimination against Gay people. One that matters. Gay marriage doesn't. No rights are denied by not allowing Gay marriage but this is ridiculous. With prostitution they have to exchange money or be caught in the act, but when it comes to consensual gay sex that isn't for profit you can be arrested for thinking about it? It's frightening in my opinion.

The senate ethics committee wouldn't have taken this up if it were not for the partisan media and Dems making an issue of it.

logical explanation for why people would think it's okay to just pull out of Iraq and let the terrorists take over and not care

You are naive if you think the constant day in day out Bush/Republican hate on every news cast, many sitcoms and many movies had no impact.

Bush was popular up until the Mission Accomplished banner because there was no spinning that type of decisive success. It was on our T.V. screens as it happened.

The turning point was all of the protest that were made to look like a groundswell of grass roots support when they were orchestrated by hostile governments and communist. Most people are followers and they want to be on the winning team. They saw night after night of these protests and saw it as the way the country was going despite the fact that it wasn't. Pro troupe events were given little if any coverage.

The media and Hollywood turned Americans against the war along with Communist and other governments hostile to the U.S. That is the sad truth. Not even half the country would be against it if there would have been fair coverage. Not one of those war protests was exposed for what they were.

Just like the illegal immigration protests. I'm on the other side of the issue and I can still see the bias. The bias is so far left on the immigration debate that the compromise position is portrayed as an extreme right racist position. Outside groups are organizing and paying for these protests also.

You are right Shawn - you are not an economist and I don't blame you for not realizing it because it wasn't reported prominently by the MSM but the treasury took in more money after the tax cuts than before them and Bush reduced the deficit.

Here is one article

Deficit

As to the rest, I'm not going to keep going over and over it. You don't see the impact that the media has had on the issues but I do. You don't think that the media can taint a jury pool, I do. Tom Delay was arrested by a partisan person who declared at a dem fund raiser that he would take Delay Down. If that isn't enough for you then nothing will be.

And if you believe Kennedy's characterization as the correct one then there is nothing I can say to you on that either. Yes there were Republicans against it, but there were enough of them for it that it would have passed if the Dems supported it. Hillary didn't support it. Obama didn't support it. It was too right wing for them. So if you side with most Newsbusters on that issue then you should be frightened about Obama or Clinton getting control of the issue.

The point that you posted said that it took 5 days to get water to the superdome. If they did not need to be supplied with water for survival why is it so important that they did not get it for 5 days.

Are you now changing your position from it took 5 days to get them water to it took 5 days to get them help?

I will talk about some of the points you addressed"mainly the ones you disagreed" and then i will move on.

I feel and the President has admitted this that the plan was flawed. There was not enough troops to secure the peace and Americans lost the support of many of civilians because we could not protect the properly from insurgents. I have said this many times before, the Dems voted for the war. I also thought that they had wmd as well, so no, I do not blame Bush for invading.

30 percent rating for Bush, Tom Delay and Bill Frist and Duke Cunningham and someone I did not mention yet.Mark Foley all have relevance because it made voters weary of the leadership of the GOP. If these scandals did not happen, I bet the GOP would still be in controll of both he house and senate.

I did not like the way George Bush handled the Libby and attorney firings. He should have pardenned Scooter at the very beginning or at least the end of his trial, but he let it drag on too long. He should not have said the attorney firings were not political and said it was nobodys business.

Larry Craig never should have plead guilty if he was innocent and he also never should have said he was resigning, then change his mind.

Anyways FS, one point you are right about is these things are in the past. I am talkin about the present and even though the msm is biased, it is not the msm that voted in McCain, it was registered republicans. It is not the msm fault people like you and CT are most likely not going to vote for RHINO. The GOP has self destructed and many conservatives should look at themselves and try to fix their party instead of pointing fingers.

Hi Shy...I had been considering filing a missing persons report on you with NB.  Good to have you around again, even if you brought those same tedious talking points along with you.

Your comment about the "MSM's determined and relentless pounding of any and all negatives, many of which are fabricated or trumped up...." is exactly the same explanation/excuse I heard from the Clinton people a decade ago.

Anyway, hope things age going well for you.

Jer