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I made no such declaration. You, Sarge, are in the unenviable position of supporting childish tactics of another poster. I simply stood up for what I believe is right. I have no sympathy for Jer, as he can speak for himself, and furthermore, will not aquiesce to pressure brought about by supposed conservatives who condone the actions of Dan the Man. If Dan wants to discuss my opinion of his actions, he is more than welcome to do so.

 You asked me to what end I defended a liberal. I ask you, what is gained by childish actions on this board toward a liberal. We have both seen our fair share of trolls here. We have both responded appropriately to them. 

However, I belive that to crush the enemy, you must use facts, not name calling and games of hide and seek. Nothing demoralizes a liberal more than to see their arguments go down in flames in the face of the facts. That's when the argument is won.


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I will say that I screwed

I will say that I screwed up earlier this week and was reprimanded by Noel.  I apologized with no reservations or excuses or qualifications.  Jer approached me about an apology and I felt it was not my duty to lead a troll by the hand.  I merely told him I apolgized and later when aproached again I said he should look for it.

Am I a petty individual, yes sometimes.  Was it my duty to lead a troll to the facts, no.  Did I have a bit of fun with Jer, well it takes two to tango.

I feel I am within the bounds.  I am refraining from posting directly to Jer.  Jer is like Obama in many respects saying one thing and scheming to do another; of course this is my opinion, that and 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

Dan's apology posted at Starbucks?

So, if I may inquire directly.. what was said exactly? 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Dan

I didn't see the original posts re. this, but I can understand your wanting to have some fun. I just think it carried a little too far. 

I wouldn't have demanded you link to the apology myself, but that's just me. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Dan...I've been here long

Dan...I've been here long enough to know your opinion is well-founded...in my opinion.  ;-)

Hope all have a nice week-end.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Dan...

I appreciate the apology.  It was indeed beautifully written.  But I couldn't help but question its sincerity when you deliberately buried it deep within the thousands of comments to 120+ blogs--and then dismissed and laughed off every request to disclose its location...even to the point where you implored others not to reveal the secret hiding place.

I looked in the areas I felt would be appropriate for its placement--the original thread which gave rise to it, my PMs, the forums.  You and I both know you were getting a kick out of playing "hide the apology."  To me, that behavior undermined the notion of an authentic and heart-felt apology, and I think any reasonable person would find my perception logical.  However, if you assure me that wasn't the case, or your intent, I will accept your word for it.

Sticking around really is not an option at this point.  [Just please don't start another "Jer Watch".]  I have no idea of the number here who may appreciate my presence versus those who resent it.  But, let's just say there are obviously a sufficient number in the latter category that I can't envision a very positive future here.  I never intended to become a distraction and/or a divisive force at NB, but I can't deny reality. 

Finally, I apologize to you personally for any and all of my behavior that was offensive to you, and hope you will forgive me for my failings.  And I further hope we can part company having put all of our hard feelings behind us.

Jer

Jer, I placed it in teh

Jer, I placed it in teh open forum for all to see.  IMO an apology for what I did would mean little if it was not public and how more public can one get than an open forum.  It was close to 12th down and made 2 days afterwards.

To me the easy way to find it would have been to use the track function in my admin section.  Then since it was only a couple of days go to the last post day and work my way forward.  U then use the Find function with Dan The Man 2 as subject.  It took me a few minutes.

Sticking around really is not an option at this point.

I sincerely hope it is nothing life threatening?

Dan...

It only took you a few minutes?  It would have only taken you a few seconds to give me a straight answer to my question instead of playing games.

Jer

Life threatening?  No, not all.

Hasn't this been strike

Hasn't this been strike two?  Seriously.

~Jer

Regarding Shy: Please take what I'm about to say under advisement. 

As I'm sure you are aware, he lives in NYC. He's surrounded by liberals, and comes from liberal family. In the current political climate, this is like a liberal having to live in a permanent gunshow. I'm sure you can imagine that such an extreme contrast would have a somewhat souring effect on the temper over time. Personally, I don't know how he does it.

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

Childish tactics? Of who?

Nope. You jumped on my @ss about a post NOT directed to you and felt compelled to dictate to me what acceptable behavior is. I don't know what Dan said or in what context it was said. All I've seen is your beloved Jer's incessant whining about an apology all over the place here. However, from what I understand he apologized for it and that's good enough for me - as though that really matters!

If you think that the adul.ation of the enemy is of greater importance than alienating your allies - drive on. And you are naive if you think you can sway liberals with facts. Do you bother reading the articles posted here???

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Right you are

Though jumped on your ass might be a bit of stretch. And I am certainly not in a position to dictate your posts, or demand anything of you. This had carried on in another thread, which I came across while lurking at lunch. 

Yes, I was tired of the whole thing, as you were apparently, so I commented.

That being said, I, personally, have not had a bad dialogue with Jer, though we disagree vociferously on just about everything political, so that is the lens I saw the whole shebang through.  

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

That's interesting

You were tired of the whole thing but directed your post to me? Jer doesn't extend that courtesy to everyone, so you cannot direct anyone to extend that courtesy to him because you have his favor. He can be just as nasty as anyone else here. But, you don't see me posting all over the place demanding apologies.

Another point of interest, is the amount of time and effort being expended over the sensibilities of the enemy which is what this amounts to. Like I said, if it's worth the risk of alienating your supposed allies for something as trivial as this - drive on. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Not sure how interesting this is

but as I have said, this had carried out for some time today. Jer did not demand an aplogy from Dan, Noel indicated it may be a good idea for Dan to do so. Dan intimated that he had delivered said apology, and Jer asked where he could find it, as he had accused Dan of not issuing one. It got out of hand. 

As for the time spent on this, you are indeed correct. I dare say we have posted to each other more about Jer than we have posted to Jer this week combined. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Sergeant ROCK

"If you think that the adul.ation of the enemy is of greater importance
than alienating your allies - drive on. And you are naive if you think
you can sway liberals with facts. Do you bother reading the articles
posted here???"

I might be slightly right of Jer, but I also consider myself a moderate, I don't believe most democrats are the enemy, just like I don't believe the folks @ town hall meetings are angry right wingers.

NB is different that other political sites because even though it is a conservative site, the mods let free speech and all different points of view on this site.

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Slightly right?

So, sort of like Gorbachev?

As for NB.. what's demonstrated here, as far as posting goes, is a greater deal of tolerance than that you will ever find on any leftist website. But NB is about is exposing liberal media bias and liberal nonsense in general.People like you and me posting to these stories is a side show.

What's a moderate anyway? Do they believe in having only half as many tri-mester abortions as liberals do? Just wondering.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Well SR

I am not a fan of abortion @ all and I find it a barbaric act. I consider myself a moderate because I agree with having a strong military and  not coddling terrorist, I believe we should be willing to get our hands dirty and do whatever it takes to extract information from our enemies, I hate affirmative action and I do believe in gay marriage.

I do not like Obama's heath plan, however I do approve of some sort of Universal healthcare that will not raise our taxes and  not affect the quality of healthcare in the private sector, I believe very much in personal freedoms such as prostituion and marijuana and euthanasia and I against any kid of sodomy law.

I also believe in being able to speak out about the faults of a party regardless if it is Democrat or Republican, I criticize Obama now the the is POTUS every bit as much as I criticized Bush when he was Commander in Chief.

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Moderate = Liberal Lite

As best I can tell. How much sodomy is necessary to declare that we truly have freedom?

Though, I don't think that there are as many moderate voters as the MSM would have you believe, I believe that they are largely responsible for sealing the deal for Obama getting elected. Polling data would seem to suggest that they are regretting that vote now. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

It doens't have anything to do with it

You asked me to pretty much define how I am a moderate, so I let you know my political views in a nutshell.

You right about moderates and independents sealing the deal for Obama,  just like they sealed the deal for Bush twice. They don't have party affiliation and vote for who they feel will do a better job. People in this country were so sick of Bush that they thought anything would be a welcome change, now what they are feeling is buyers remorse,

Even though I did not vote for him, not even in my wildest dreams did I believe he could do so much damage so soon

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Sarge

I think we're kindred spirits. And no, I don't mean that in any sort of gay way. I love gays. And no, I don't mean "I love gays"......

But really, I'm right with you on the way you see most of it. Moderate Schmoderate. NB (and ALL right-leaning sites) are like day to night when compared to liberal ones, if you really hang out among leftists at progressive sites. Jer's a thin-skinned, attention hungry, clearly OCD-afflicted guy. Too many here -- yes, you REST1, included -- are soft in a time when we need to put a foot down. Shawn loves porn.

I think that just about covers it all. 

 

What's wrong with a little sodomy between friends?

lol.. it's waaay past my bedtime. I am done with posting at Jer.org... for tonight anyway.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Get a room

Please

"What we have to do today is make a covenant to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing." -Michele Bachmann advocating covenants and self mutilation as a response to health care reform.

Shy,

Yup, I'm all bark and no bite. Eh, maybe not. I've danced on more troll graves than you have witnessed here. I've had directives to control myself, and had posts deleted that were over the line. Not sure where you get the "soft" bullshit from, but you can shove it. 

But, if it makes you feel any better, here:

"Hey all you liberals, rinos, wussies, pussies, dicks, fags, ragheads, etc. etc. etc!!!!! Why don't you all just eat sh*# and DIE already!!!!!. Then, all our problems, from GW to Health care would be solved!!!!

(Actually, I'm only half joking here).

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

R1

Shy has accused Jer of changing.  I did and still consider shy a friend, he and a few others were very supportive when I had personal crises I was experiencing a few months ago.

However, I believe it is shy who has changed, he used to use lots of humor and was good natured, nowadays there is a mean tone to his posts and  lately reminds me of a reverse angry liberal.

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

REST1

Good grief, everyone, what's up with SPMS around here? (sudden-potty-mouth-syndrome?) THIS IS STILL A PUBLIC THREAD.

Seriously.

 

nothing will change, Shy

I've been pleading with NB for months to curb the profanity creeping into post titles and front page comments. No one cares. Apparently to some people, we can all say "f--- you" and still claim that our site is "cleaner" than DKos.

 

candance

Agreed. Coming from REST1 is quite surprising. As to the changing culture of this site, well, we both sort of know the culprits here.

Shawn, yes, I've hardened a bit. I'm sure, post-2008, you can understand.

I will forward the script to the peeps, btw, cx2, and will post a final anim-only draft sooooon. :)

 

Hey,

I was just tryin' to keep it real for ya Shy. 

I generally try to keep the cussin' to a min. here, but I was trying to make a point. On the other hand, at least I was able to part your hair for you, (as the point went over at least a couple of heads here). 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

REST1

Got that, regarding the quoted one, but your "b-s" one seemed from the hip and REAL real, not keepin'-it-real real.

:) 

Shy,

That one was just anger. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

This is so much easier to read

This is so much easier to read than stuff jammed way over to the side.

Just sayin'

Free

But

look...

I can

pretend

it's

crowded

in here.

:)

 

~RE: The body of this forum

Bloody well said.

AND since we're in the Woodshed--I'm going to cut loose a little here..but just a little.

Sargeant ROCKsinhishead and Dan the Tiny Little Man--YOU ACTED LIKE ASSHOLES. GROW UP AND ARGUE THE FACTS LIKE MEN INSTEAD OF THROWING OUT SCURRILOUS PERSONAL ATTACKS. YOU LOOK LIKE FOOLS. SMALL-MINDED, PETTY, LITTLE FOOLS.

Dan, next time I see you quoting Scripture like a pious little choir boy I may just copy-paste a bunch of your disgusting behavior right after it.

SR: Stop stalking Jer. You LOOK LIKE AN ASSHOLE.

Shy: Stop taking your frustrations with your liberal friends out on Jer. It's not his fault they're calling you names and "un-friending" you. They're just jerks, don't let them make you one. Please.

Re: Feeling "sorry" for Jer. BULLSHIT. I'm involved in this for the same reason I put a BEATDOWN on bullies when I was in school. I CAN'T STAND BULLIES. IF YOU TINY LITTLE MEN WANT TO KICK LIBERAL ASS GO TO KOS OR HUFFPO AND HAVE AT IT. STOP STALKING JER. IT MAKES YOU LOOK WEAK, PATHETIC, AND VERY, VERY SMALL.

WHAT'S THE MATTER, YOU DON'T HAVE THE STONES TO TAKE LIBERALS ON IN THEIR OWN TERRITORY?! YOU LOOK LIKE CROWS FLAPPING AROUND A HAWK THINKING YOU'RE SO EFFING BRAVE. COWARDS.

*Ahem* Better.

R1: I'm in love. You could be short, fat, and bald and I'd still think you were 10 feet tall and a glorious hunk of manhood.

Forever and ever.

Amen.

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

§ Chose...WOW!!!

I need to get back in here more often!!!

Ummmmm....

Ummmmmm....

Oh yeah!!!  

U Loooook MARVELOUS!!!

Ster.

 "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher 

~It's the new

Bullwhip. Glad you like it.

 

Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today

Well, uh, gorsh, uh

Well, uh, gorsh, uh I...I...I..., uh, *extreme blushing*, th..th... thanks Chose.  :)

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

chose

"WHAT'S THE MATTER, YOU DON'T HAVE THE STONES TO TAKE LIBERALS ON IN THEIR OWN TERRITORY?! YOU LOOK LIKE CROWS FLAPPING AROUND A HAWK THINKING YOU'RE SO EFFING BRAVECOWARDS."

Uuhhh, I think I do this here in NYC, at facebook, etc.. And okay, okay, bring the "you see, I was right", but no, your little psychoanalysis falls short. Jer's a type that rubs many people the wrong way, chose, his political leanings aside. Myself included.

I think you need to accept that we all get along and don't get along with various types of people. It's the way of the world.

Also, let's not curse, even at the woodshed -- it's still PUBLIC. Just put an @ or ** or - - - if you have to, but avoid actual spelled-out curse words. Pleeeease?!? We want to keep this site on the up and up, and above the fray.

Thanking you in advance. 

 

Seems reasonable to

War Declared

No, I disagree. Your rambling diatribe makes YOU look like an asshole.

Take your medication please.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~Ahhhhhh

He comes slinking back in. 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my 4" spiked heel.

choosehelp

Is what you need to do as you are clearly psychotic and not stable.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~That's fascinating

Coming from you. Still stalking Jer from thread to thread?

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my 4" spiked heel.

choosehelp

Looks like you're the one doing all of the stalking, unless your name is also 'Jer'? 

One day we will rid the GOP of liberal apologists like you. Now, take your meds please.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~?

You addressed me, I responded. Who's stalking who?

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my 4" spiked heel.

Take your meds, airhead

How'd you know that one was for you?

Dumb@ss..

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~Sargeant Rock

You want a war with me? Is your ego so frail you have to try to pick a fight with me now just so you feel like you have a pair?

Pathetic. 

choosemeds

Just for you, genius!

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~I don't follow sicko links

I prefer to watch you writhe around feebly grasping the tattered shreds of your dignity. It'd probably be easier if you took your thumb out of your mouth and used both hands.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the @sshole under my heel.

Ha! Ha! Ha! You are truly deranged!

Chickenshit coward. But then, you are an 'Independent' afterall. lol..

Coward.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~Wow

Keep trying to look like you're not a class A jerk. It's working. Splendidly.

Really.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the crazy stalker under my heel.

Sigh!!!! I got this one too, Shy

"Good grief, everyone, what's up with SPMS around here? (sudden-potty-mouth-syndrome?) THIS IS STILL A PUBLIC THREAD."

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

~R1

Ohh..the big, bad wolf ran away without facing you. Hmm, guess he only has the guts to call women and Democrats names. Didn't see that one coming..

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the crazy stalker under my heel.

Still wondering where Shy

I was a little dissappointed over the rift with the sarge, as I have enjoyed a great many of his posts, but after this last little tilt, I see he has no standards and is not much of a man after all. 

I wonder how he would take to someone calling his wife, or mother such names? 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Don't talk like that R1

Shy will be upset about you talking about his kindred spirit like that. 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

BASELESS 1

Yeah, that's a one-sided way to look at it - given your buddy's mentally unstable rant posted above.

So, the both of you can go to hell. But, at least you still have leftist kook Jer's admiration - isn't that sweet?

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Fine, I'll go to hell

Living in San Antonio this summer has prepared me quite nicely. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

~Mentally unstable

I have yet to see you do anything other than attack. Try refuting something with facts, or admit none of them back you up.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the crazy stalker under my heel.

Shut up already...

... you are not only deranged, but a stalker as well.  

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~You are really showing what an ugly person you are

Congratulations. 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the crazy stalker under my heel.

choosemeds

lol... said the pot to the kettle!

Nah.. you've done a decent job through your numerous posts attacking conservatives that you are mentally deranged (obsessive compulsive?).

Your obsession requires medical treatment by a professional. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

~

Clawing the sides of the bowl screaming fabrications as you circle ever downwards....

Where'd I put the popcorn?

That high-pitched scream you hear is the crazy stalker under my heel.

YoooHoooo Mr Shy

 "No, I disagree. Your rambling diatribe makes YOU look like an asshole".

Yoooohooooo Mr. Shy 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Since Shy apparently won't do it himself

 "Also, let's not curse, even at the woodshed -- it's still PUBLIC. Just
put an @ or ** or - - - if you have to, but avoid actual spelled-out
curse words. Pleeeease?!? We want to keep this site on the up and up,
and above the fray."

Gee, and just when I thought all of this was over and done with. Four days later, you come back here to what? See your name in lights? 

We've already bored Free Stinker and Cool Arrow to tears over this, but if you insist...

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

~He's gathering his wits

I threw away the pooper-scooper though, so I doubt he'll be successful.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the crazy stalker under my heel.

Thank you,

to whoever deleted the last few posts here. I posted something I wasn't very proud of. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Yeah Restless

For what its worth, I would not try to have relations with you in that sense ;-P 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Shawn,

You have no idea how much I appreciate that. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

What did I miss?

   Why are so many people in my buddy list arguing with people that would be in my buddy list if they would only make the request?

   I don't really want to spend the time going over the history of what was said. I tried. Looks like this thing goes back days and days.

 As someone that recently had an apology demanded of him from Uncle Jer recently, I would like to add -

  Uncle Jer,

      Seriously, give us a break here. We are being overrun by trolls. Real honest to Gawd, lying scum sucking trolls, here. The far left is livid. They got their man in and here it is 8 months later and they still have almost nothing to show for it. They are torqued and they are looking to blame it on the usual suspects - rightwingers. That is us Uncle Jer. Us. They are torqued and they are desperate. They are looking at the clock. Every day that they don't get something passed is another day closer to the November of 2010. They know those Congressmen are looking at the clock too.

   They have no new ideas. They have not had a new idea in 80 years. So they wrap it in a new cloak. Global Warming. Health Care Reform. Localism on the radio. Free choice act. But it all leads to the same place. Government control of the economy.

  They see the American people turning against them and they are striking out. They know they cannot debate on the facts - let's get rid of private enterprise and let the government run it all. So they resort to name calling, blaming, playing the race card, and lying. Oh, do I sound like I am talking about the President. I AM.

  The far left has been directed to come to right wing sites and take us on. Who was it that said to get in our face? Oh, that is right, PBO. We are being overrun Uncle Jer. We need help. We don't need a voice that sounds suspiciously like one of theirs.

   You announced your retirement in June. Were you watching the news in your retirement? The majority in Congress is not listening to us. And the minority can do little to stop them. We are getting angry Uncle Jer. We are not being heard.

  Frankly, I don't know why you are not angry too. A government managed economy leads to only one thing - rationing. I am fairly sure you are close to retirement in real life. And retirement in real life already means a close dependency on the government. You, Uncle Jer, will get less. Along with everyone in your family and friends. You can't chase off those that produce and expect to get the same amount of everything.

  So either join us, or get some tougher skin. Because you are agreeing with people that are trying to bring down this country so they may build something that has failed everywhere it has been tried on this planet.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Jer

....tries to civil and does not use the usual KOS and DU talking points. I understand the frustration the right has right now, because they have lost power to the Democrats. As much as the right wants to blame ACORN and the MSM on their loses, if they did a better job they would have kept congress in 06 and the Presidency in 08.

There are two types of conservatives, the 1st is to point fingers and blame everything except for themselves and the 2nd is forget about what happened last time and move forward.

The 2nd type of republican is the one who won the Presidency in 2000 and 2004 and had control of 3 branches of government in 04 with the same msm and ACORN.

Would it not be better to engage Jer with facts than namecalling? 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Je has requested I create a Jer teh Lying Troll forum.

JWF...Why not save a lot of

October 18, 2009 - 18:27 ET by Jer

JWF...Why not save a lot of time and trouble and just go ahead and open your "Jer the Lying Troll" forum.  

 

  I think we already have one here. There are those of us that have realised someone crazy hijacked Uncle Jer's account. Then there is those of us that will come to realise it soon enough.

  Apologise. Apologise. Apologise now! Braaaaackk.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I admit it JWF

That was extremely clever. ;-)

"I think we're kindred spirits."~Mr Shy to Sergeant ROCK

"Whats wrong with a little sodomy between friends?"~Sergeant ROCK to Mr Shy.