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Liberal Lies: 100,000 die yearly from medical mistakes --- Truth - 5,000 to 15,000

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Looks like the 007milquetoast troll has struck a rich vein of lies again. Excellent digging troll.
Do you have a source for that claim, cobra? Sat, 01/30/2010 - 03:17 ET by 007memo

Do you have a source for that claim, cobra?  "Most malpractice claims are paid off BEFORE they even reach the courts, even the frivolous ones."

Here is a source - Many medical malpractice cases are settled out of court.

I was under the impression that insurance companies rarely settle malpractice claims. It’s been a few years since I visited this subject, but I used to know it intimately.

Really? Intimately? Over 90% of medical malpractice cases settle out of court

Within six months of my mother’s retirement (she literally never missed a day of work), she was rendered an invalid by an incompetent Doctor.  He had been treating her for an innocuous medical condition with what should have been a rather benign treatment.  “Should have been” are the key words.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Oh sorry. Fell asleep there.

But that was only the beginning of her battle through the Health Care System hell she encountered over the next few years. She finally succumbed due to the last of many malpractices encountered along the way.

Many malpractices? Sue! You have a good shot with all teh malpracticings and all! Sue!

  I won’t bore you with all of the stories, you wouldn’t believe them anyway.

No. You bore us with every friggin' post. But hey... 

Anyway, because her continued day to day care and general health management was going to be very expensive, complicated, time consuming and not covered by health insurance, my father sought help from a prestigious law firm.

I might suggest seeking help from a doctor, but then again, I am not a lying troll.

The firm spent $75,000 investigating the case and decided in the end not litigate it.  They said a typical case like hers would cost $750,000 to bring to trial and since she was over 65, the award for damages would be relatively paltry since her earning years were over.

In a medical malpractice lawsuit (just as in any personal injury lawsuit), there are two types of damages: economic and noneconomic. Economic damages are monies awarded as compensation for monetary losses and expenses, which the plaintiff has incurred, or is reasonably likely to incur in the future, as a result of the defendant's negligence. Noneconomic damages are monies awarded as compensation for non-monetary losses and injuries, which the plaintiff has suffered, or is reasonably likely to suffer in the future, as a result of the defendant's negligence. 

What about the non-economic damages liar?

 They said we’d win, they just couldn’t risk spending so much of their time and money on a possibly minimal reward.

Their time? Their time now? Gee, Can you give me the number of that firm. I need some lawyers that would work for free for me too. 

We asked about an out of court settlement, but the attorneys said the Insurance Companies never settle medical malpractice cases out of court.

Approximately 96% of the time, the victim''s lawyer and the doctor''s insurance claims adjuster will negotiate medical malpractice settlements out of court. 

 They said that contrary to popular belief, it is very difficult and tremendously expensive to litigate these cases.  Only a very small portion of cases wind up getting litigated in the end.

This idiot just contradicted himself! He said before that malpractice cases rarely get settled out of court. Which is it?

Close to 100,000 Americans die each year from medical mistakes, preventable infections in hospitals (staph for instance), misprescribed drugs, drug interactions, misdiagnoses etc, etc.

Lie. The idiot that loves the fraudulent data from the AGW crowd bought into a fraudulent study stating 100,000 deaths.

One pertinent example for the medical device industry is the widely quoted statistic that medical error kills 100,000 people every year. Based on a report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) released in 1999—which actually cited estimates of between 44,000 and 98,000 deaths a year caused by medical errors—this claim received extensive coverage in the news media.

Much less attention was paid to a subsequent article, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) last July 25, which called into question the conclusions of the IOM report. According to authors Rodney Hayward and Timothy Hofer, the results of their study suggest that "these statistics are probably unreliable and have substantially different implications than have been implied in the media." Hayward has suggested that the number of deaths due to error is probably closer to between 5000 and 15,000 annually.

 That stat has been pretty consistent over the years. 

Yes. Most fake stats are consistent. Real numbers reported by real people vary year by year. LIAR. 

 And that number doesn’t even include those who survive the malpractice and have to live with the consequences. Only a small fraction of those malpractice cases ever wind up being pursued by the victims or their families.

ZZZZZZ. Crap. Fell asleep again.

BTW, I’m pretty sure the CBO analyzed the effects of proposed malpractice tort reform and the savings are rather negligible in the scheme of overall Health Care costs.

Tort reform is about limiting the NON-ECONOMIC damages. Something the idiot knows nothing about. 

 While it makes for a great talking point since it includes Lawyer bashing, and who’s against that, the reality seems to be that malpractice expenses aren’t what causes health care to be so expensive.

Oh good one Doctor Milquetoast. Seeing as how you spent the entire post talking out of your butt, glad to know you are so aware of what makes health care so expensive all of a sudden.



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