Once again, Chuck Baldwin tells the truth nobody else wants to hear...
JMR
What's With All These Clueless Christians?
By Chuck Baldwin
February 12, 2008
This column is archived at
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080212.html
"For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs
and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect." Mark
13:22 (KJV)
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they
should believe a lie." II Thessalonians 2:11 (KJV)
What's with all these clueless Christians? How is it that people who
have the benefit of the indwelling Holy Spirit, and the warning and
insight of the Sacred Scriptures--not to mention a rich Christian
heritage here in America--can be so ignorant, blind, and naïve? Yes,
the majority of evangelical Christians seem to be all of the above.
The problem has passed being serious: it is catastrophic!
How is it that we have drifted away from being an informed, active,
knowledgeable, and dedicated group of highly motivated Christian
patriots to a group of impotent and anemic sheep? Our Christian
forebears must be turning over in their graves, because we are in the
process of squandering the greatest human sacrifice--save that of the
sacrifice of Jesus Christ--ever made: the sacrifice of America's
Founding Fathers.
... continued here ....
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Sarc, Is this in
February 13, 2008 - 21:04 ET by Free StinkerSarc,
Is this in reference to Hucklebee? If it is, then all I can offer is a great big shrug.
I woulnd't vote for that jxckass. I can't figure out why anyone else would either.
Newsbusters. Log on and find out What the heck is so yummy over here!
Don't look at me sarc
February 14, 2008 - 00:50 ET by candanceI'm evangelical and I agree with him. The modern church has been very heavily influenced by secular liberalism.
I suggest reading more of his columns
April 13, 2008 - 11:27 ET by sarcasmoFound at this link.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
so ignorant, blind, and
February 14, 2008 - 01:02 ET by botgso ignorant, blind, and naïve? Yes, the majority of evangelical Christians seem to be all of the above.
is that your estimation of me Sarc?
I agree with this entire
February 14, 2008 - 01:33 ET by tracheostomyI agree with this entire column except where names are specifically named, and that one part about the crucifixion.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
sarc to answer your PM
April 13, 2008 - 11:18 ET by botgignorant, blind, and naïve? Yes, the majority of evangelical Christians seem to be all of the above.
let's substitute: foolish truthers? Yes the majority of Paul supporters seem to be so
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Ok, then I'll answer publicly, too
April 13, 2008 - 11:24 ET by sarcasmo(I didn't see this before I replied)...
I just paid an obese government well-over a tithe. I fail to see what the hidden worship of obese government by those who mouth libertarian words only around election-time has to do with spouting some lie about Paul supporters being mostly "Truthers" instead of addressing what Chuck said, but then, I'm not the one who has to argue against words like:
"...And no one within the Religious Right seems to get it. Say you are 'pro-life' and 'pro-family' and you are "in." Forget the Constitution. Forget national sovereignty and independence. Forget the principles of sound money. Forget the Bill of Rights. Forget 'Just War' theory. Forget non-interventionism. Forget protecting American jobs and manufacturing. Forget putting America first. It's all about getting along with the establishment, having a seat at the table, and enjoying the perks of power.
Christians are supposed to be different. We are supposed to think differently...."
but do we? I think not, in most cases...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
i addressed the
April 13, 2008 - 11:37 ET by botgstatement by Chuck, that i quoted in my answer, where does that say 'worship obese government'???
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
The same place
April 13, 2008 - 11:42 ET by sarcasmoChuck addresses "Truthers" at all in the piece, much less 9/11? In truth, I wasn't too impressed with the answer, as my edit shows with Chuck's own words.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
in our PMs
April 13, 2008 - 11:47 ET by botgi said for Chuck to typecast the majority of Christians as he did was as valid as typecasting all Ron Paul as foolish truthers. (Neither is a valid assertion)
You challenged me to show where he typecast Christians so i quoted him here
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Note my edit above, though...
April 13, 2008 - 11:54 ET by sarcasmoThe one issue Chuck DIDN'T talk about in the column was he didn't say "Forget 9/11 Truth." You'd have LOVED IT if he'd put that in, but Chuck simply didn't, you had to bring it up instead.
If you take his words out of context and then dishonestly try to paint him as a "9/11 Truther," don't expect me to respect your arguments. The entire column is at the link. Read it, see if you can find something in it (that means 9/11 is irrelevant because Chuck NEVER MENTIONED IT) that's not dead-on and doesn't give context to what you just tried to take out of context? I say you can't, others can judge for themselves.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
read the whole thing
April 13, 2008 - 12:05 ET by botgChuck sticks by his ignorant, blind, and naïve? Yes, the majority of evangelical Christians seem to be all of the above statement. It is not valid, are there many examples yes.
You will note i did not say Chuck said anything about truthers, just that his statement is as valid as saying the majority of Paul supporters are foolish truthers.
I also stated that neither assertion is valid.
Do you obsfucate purposely or have you misunderstood what i think to be a simple point?
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
I'm not "obfuscating"
April 13, 2008 - 16:18 ET by sarcasmoBut I am saying you reflexively brought up 9/11 "Truthers" because you did, despite the fact that the article had nothing whatsoever to do with them. We disagree on Chuck's statement, but I'm glad you think neither assertion is valid. I'd question where Chuck's wrong? He's ranting about getting stuck with McCain just like I've seen Huckabee supporting pastors ranted about the same thing, but his point is about anything BUT 9/11 types, and I think it's a good one, which is why I posted it in the first place. But I've noticed the "Active Forums" section has disappeared of late, making NB's forums as a whole less interesting, IMO. Oh well.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.