Sarah Palin: Unqualified

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Sarah Palin's Resume

Age: 44

Religion:
- Pentecostal

Education:
- Attended, Hawaii Pacific University, 1982
- Attended, North Idaho College, 1983-1984
- Attended, University of Idaho, 1984-1985
- Attended, Matanuska-Susitna College, 1985
- B.S. Journalism, University of Idaho, 1987

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member, Wasilla City Council, Alaska, 1992-1996
- Former Mayor, Wasilla City, Alaska, 1996-2002 (pop: 7,028) (Votes: 909)
- Failed Candidate, Lieutenant Governor, Alaska, 2002
- Resigned, Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 2003-2004
- Governor, Alaska, 2006-present (2 years) (pop: 670,053) (0.002% of the U.S. population)

Professional Experience:
- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989
- Director, Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc., 2003-2007

 

"So, Sarah Palin. The man who would be the oldest to embark on a first presidential term has chosen as his possible successor a person of negligible experience." - George Will, Conservative Columnist (The Washington Post)

"The vice president's only constitutional duty of any significance is to become president at a moment's notice. Palin is not ready. Nor is Obama. But with Palin, the case against Obama evaporates " - Charles Krauthammer, Conservative Columnist (The Washington Post)

"Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?" - Ramesh Ponnuru, Conservative Columnist (National Review)

"The Palin pick shows a low opinion of the vice presidency, and it shows conservatives in a bad light." - Rick Brookhiser, Conservative Columnist (National Review)

"Ms. Palin's experience in government makes Barack Obama look like George C. Marshall. She has zero foreign policy experience, and no record on national security issues. Mr. McCain's supporters argue that he is more serious about national security than Barack Obama. But the selection of Sarah Palin invites the question: How serious can he be if he would place such a neophyte second in line to the presidency?" - David Frum, Former Speechwriter for President George W. Bush (National Post)

"She's not qualified, she doesn't have the judgment, to be next in line to the president of the United States," - Larry Persily, Former Congressional Liaison, Alaska Governor's Washington DC Office (Bloomberg)

"I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States." - Chuck Hagel, Republican Senator from Nebraska (Omaha World Herald)

"I do not think that Barack Obama or her are experienced enough to be President of the United States - neither one of them, ...certainly Joe Biden is much more qualified than Sarah Palin" - John Ensign, Republican Senator from Nevada (Las Vegas Sun)

"I don't think at the moment she is prepared to take over the reins of the presidency" - Lawrence Eagleburger, Former Secretary of State for President George H.W. Bush (The Washington Post)

"I think it has very much undermined the whole question of John McCain’s judgment. You know what most Americans I think realized is that you don’t offer a job, let alone the vice presidency, to a person after one job interview. Even at McDonald’s, you’re interviewed three times before you get a job." - Ken Duberstein, Former Chief of Staff for President Ronald Reagan (Politico)

"I don't believe she's ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president. And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Sen. McCain made." - Colin Powell, Former Secretary of State for President George W. Bush (L.A. Times)

"Palin is in no way qualified to take over the presidency should, God forbid, McCain die in office." - Diane McCarty, Former Mayor of Tenakee Springs, Alaska (Juneau Empire)

"As we’ve seen and heard more from John McCain’s running mate, it is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem. Quick study or not, she doesn't know enough about economics and foreign policy to make Americans comfortable with a President Palin should conditions warrant her promotion." - Kathleen Parker, Conservative Columnist (National Review)

"The most qualified? No. I think they went for this - excuse me - political bullshit about narratives," - Peggy Noonan, Conservative Columnist (Politico)

 

82% believed Sarah Palin caused John McCain to lose the election (CNN)
81% of independent voters said they were less likely to vote for McCain because of Palin (Los Angeles Times / Bloomberg)
80% of women voters believe McCain picked Palin for Political Reasons not Qualifications (Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group)
79% of uncommitted voters did not believe Palin won the VP Debate (CBS News / Knowledge Networks)
75% of likely voters did not believe Palin has the right experience to be president (AP / GfK)
72% of registered independent voters were not very comfortable with Palin as President (FOX News / Opinion Dynamics)
72% of voters say that McCain's choice of Palin did not make them inclined to vote Republican (San Francisco Chronicle)
70% of voters do not believe Sarah Palin is qualified to step in as President (FOX News / Edison/Mitofsky)
68% of voters were not very comfortable with Palin as President (FOX News / Opinion Dynamics)
66% of likely voters were not very comfortable with Palin as Vice President (FOX News / Opinion Dynamics)
61% of voters did not believe Sarah Palin is ready to serve as President (USA Today / Gallup)
60% of women under 50 have an unfavorable opinion of Sarah Palin (The Pew Research Center)
60% of Americans do not think Sarah Palin has enough experience to be President (ABC News)
59% of voters said Sarah Palin is not qualified (New York Times / CBS News)
58% of Americans do not think Palin is qualified to assume the presidency (CNN / Opinion Research)
58% of likely women voters do not have a positive opinion of Palin (Time Magazine)
57% of likely voters said Palin does not have the personal qualities a president should have (CNN / Opinion Research)
56% of registered women voters trust Hillary Clinton more than Sarah Palin (Blum & Weprin Associates)
55% of registered voters did not believe Palin is qualified to step in as president (Newsweek / Princeton Survey Research Associates)
55% of voters said Sarah Palin is unqualified (NBC News / Wall Street Journal)
52% of women voters said Sarah Palin is not qualified (Quinnipiac University / Wall Street Journal)
51% of likely voters view Sarah Palin unfavorably (ABC News / Washington Post)


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The era of failing to back who is qualified

Using these factors as a basis for judgement, it becomes apparent to me that even if one considers Palin unqualified today, one day she will be qualifed even for all these critics and polls mentioned here as her experience grows.

The brillance of her speech at the convention was an example of what we can expect from her in the future as she puts meat on her resume.

But by that time, will she want to run?

The real problem then becomes and needs to be addressed by us here at Newsbusters is how we can help the well qualified feel like they can run.

They simply are not willing to put up with a media that will target them and try their best to destroy them.

Gone are the days when the MSM would take out a Gary Hart and his monkey business. Or ask a probative question of why the candidate wanted to run for president, and knock out Sen. Kennedy from running as the heir apparent.

I believe McCain chose Palin in part because the good GOP candidates were not willing to fight. He also wanted someone out of the D.C. mindset, to his credit.

Early in the summer, before McCain chose a running mate, a close friend and I were discussing who we would love to see run as his veep candidate.

We both concluded that Sen. Inhofe of OK was the best man for the job. Bright, knowledgable, good speaker, and would energize the conservative base.

But, we both agreed that he would never run due to his age and because he was way too smart to let himself get torn apart by a media who was in bed with and for Obama.

So, instead of focusing on how Palin might be unqualified, I think it might be a better question to ask is how we can back the qualified candidates and stand by them like the other side did with Obama.

If Palin, as good as I think she will be in the future for the GOP, is allowed to be destroyed by the MSM, then what candidate are we helping decide to stay out of the fray because he or she feels we won't back them.

And how do we groom the Sarah Palin's to become the leadership material that a nation will look past the MSM's bias and vote for?

Of course, it also raises the question of how we let McCain become the candidate too. But, that is a different thread.

This cracks me up

We have someone who:

  • Comes to a website dedicated to Media bias
  • The website is created and run by an organization dedicated to combating media bias
  • Everyday, the website bloggers post examples of MSM media bias

And yet this guy uses these very same biased sources to attack someone he does not like.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

So, Stinker. Because the

So, Stinker. Because the source is biased, does this mean that the facts are necessarily invalid?

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

QM

Because the source is biased, does this mean that the facts are necessarily invalid?

At the minimum, they are suspect.  And if you further find different news reports that outright contradict those same "facts", it's pretty obvious what is true, and what isn't.  I just don't think I will keep making the same replies(with links) to PopTech when he doesn't even bother reading them.

Would you have preferred that I counter-spammed PopTech?

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Stinker: Whether or not

Stinker: Whether or not PT's topic is spam is a matter of opinion. PT posted a topic in the Forum which you were free to ignore. JMO

O/T: I've been away from N.B. for a while and upon my recent return find a whole new dynamic at work. I don't recall that dissenting views - fairly presented - were so often soundly dismissed out of hand. The Sarah Palin Defense Derangement Syndrome is a perfect example. Does it have to be all or nothing? Sorry PT if I disrupted the discussion. Carry on.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~Been away for a while

I'll bet the orderlies at Betty Ford were happy to see your pompous @ss leaving.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

cl... Wow...showing how

cl...

Wow...showing how mature you are once again.

That was rude and uncalled for.

QM wasn't talking to you, she was talking to FS.

You just can't help yourself can you...your vendetta continues to march on. 

...and you are supposedly an adult.

Doubtful at best.

~Rude and uncalled for

1. You have no sense of humor.
2. You are a pathetic hypocrite. You should have addressed Queen's rude and uncalled for remarks to me if you wanted to have any credibility. So either shut up, or answer the questions I posed to you last Monday.
3. When I defended sheryl you said I should 'let her stand up for herself', yet you're butting in for QM. If you didn't have a double standard you would have no standard at all.
4. Why was Queen referring to Free as 'Stinker'? She could have called him Free, Free Stinker, or FS. She chose to repeatedly call him Stinker and he was too gentlemanly to tell her where to shove it. If she wants to put other people down, she can expect to be b!tchslapped.
5. I can't believe I used to wonder why so many people disliked you so intensely. Thank you for enlightening me.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

chosen one: Have you ever

chosen one: Have you ever seen the movie "Carrie"? Somehow you remind me of it. Please take this personally. That was my intention.

P.S. I often abbreviate usernames in the interest of saving time. The fact that you would make it an issue just shows how vindictive you are. Carrie on.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~Abbreviations

Both 'Free' and 'FS' are much shorter than 'Stinker'. Try another lie.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Move on sweetness.

cl...

Move on sweetness.

...your forgetting your Harlequin touch honey.

~Harlequin

The idea of a Harlequin-type post about someone like Queen is.....excuse me, I need to go take something to quell the nausea.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

cl

:-)

~You should do that more often

:-)

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

cl... ;-)

cl...

;-)

~*blushing*

I see you like 'em feisty. I'm afraid I don't swing that way, nothing personal.
("I hear Queen isn't seeing anyone just now" she whispered)
Moan....running for the Pepto..hey, ya can't say I didn't try....

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Keep talking

Keep talking sweetness...    ;-)

~Your incessant flirting

Is becoming awkward.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

cute by half-wit

. . . and I wasn't talking to QM, I was talking to PopTech.

For that matter, Chose was talking to QM, not *you*

 

Don't you have some other post you should be replying to with "cute by half-wit" or something ?

Facts are Facts

Just because you do not like the source does not mean the facts are wrong, Facts are Facts. 

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

PopTech

It isn't that I dislike the source.  (Don't change the subject)

My point was that these sources are know to be biased.  The "fact" of what someone's opinion is, happens to be different from if their opinion corresponds to reality(is actually a fact), or not.

Speaking of bias, you use many of the same tricks the MSM uses.

Case in point:  You post a remark that says "Palin owes Back Taxes".  Sounds pretty bad the way you write that sentence. But when all the facts are included, we find the story you linked to begins with "Gov. Sarah Palin must pay income taxes on thousands of dollars in expense money she received while living at her Wasilla home, under a new determination by state officials.” (emphasis mine)

Did you notice that too?  (I guess not)  "under a new determination".  This isn't some case of her failing to pay her taxes, or even being late or behind on payments.  She has been governor for 2 years now, and apparently the state has just decided (Feb 2009) that she should pay taxes on her expense money.  Read the article.

 

This is typical of the links you post criticising Governor Sarah Palin.  Probably why people tend to mock you, instead of debate you.  I predict you will continue to claim she "owes back taxes" and say it in the a way that sounds as if she is some sort of a tax cheat.

Robert A. Heinein may have had you in mind when he gave this example of skewing one's writing:  "Would you like a segment of tissue from the dead carcass of an immature castrated bull, or a nice juicy steak?"

 

 

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Stinker: Please explain.

Stinker: Please explain. According to the article you linked, Palin does owe the taxes. I'm not saying that this is of great import. But can you explain why she would be required to pay these taxes after the fact?

 "At the Governor's request, we reviewed the situation to determine
whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue
Service regulations," Kreitzer wrote. "As a result of this review, we
determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a
revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees
."
(Bolding mine)

In other words, the Internal Revenue regulations didn't change. It's a matter of how the Governor's office was treating per diem charges. No? And what about the questionable charges related to her husband and her children? I'm not taking sides here. I'm just asking for your input.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

QM

I never said she didn't have to pay the taxes.

The article is from Feb 17, IIRC, and now here comes the bleating of "PALIN OWES BACK TAXES" . . . written that way to imply she is some sort of a tax cheat.

LMAO! Palin owes back taxes = Fact

If she did not try to avoide taxes why are they not releasing the amount? If she is innocent why the secrecy? Maybe "maverick" means not paying your taxes? LMAO!

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Poppie - Is this stuff the best you have?

She has been governor for 2 years now, and
apparently the state has just decided (Feb 2009) that she should pay
taxes on her expense money.  Read the article.  Look at the date. Realease the ammount?  Translation.  State of Alaska hasn't calculated it yet.

 

Is this stuff the best you have? (I know is is)

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Palin tried to write off staying in her home LMAO!

Palin Now Owes Taxes on Payments for Nights at Home, State Rules (The Washington Post)

Travel Reinbursements for staying at home? ROFLMAO!!

It doesn't get any better then this!

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Palin tried to write off

Palin tried to write off staying in her home

Just like all her predicessors.  She gets free room and baord at the State House, and expenses when she is away.

Get your facts straight.

Wasilla Residence - LMAO!

"...when she spent nights in her Wasilla residence. [...] During her first 19 months in office, Palin charged the state $16,951
in "per diem" allowances for spending 312 nights in her home."

ROFLMAO!

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Wow! $54 dollars a day.

16,951 / 312 = 54.33 (rounded)

Wow!  $54 dollars a day.  Less than what her predicessors charged.  Thanks for reminding me to poin out that she cut that too!

How much would it have cost Alaska Taxpayers if she had stayed at the Statehouse?  I notice you do not include those numbers.

Why do you like the idea of politician staying sequestered in their State capital and away from the voters?

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Palin didn't pay her taxes

Clearly, you have no clue

Clearly, you have no clue what a per diem allowance is.

Per diem is an expense allowance that does not have to be accounted for by a receipt.  It is tax free and it is usually associated with on-site business travel but is subject to a standard scale from the IRS based on city.   My suspicion is that Palin is not required by regulations to account for this money.  It is a perk of the office and I'd bet her predecessor collected it as well.  She owes no tax on this as long as the amount is within the IRS guidelines for Alaska.

I have been on per diem many times.  Those were always the rules when I was on government contracts.  The rate was per day and set by IRS and contracting Agency regulation.  I received it regardless of what my expenses actually were.  If I accepted per diem, I was not allowed to claim actual expenses.   Anything I received in excess of expenses was free income to me.

Advice

Maybe if you spent a little less time ROTFLYAO, and instead worked more on critical thinking, source evaluation, constructing your own arguments with evidence to back them up instead of vomiting bibs, and otherwise being intellectually honest, well, you might actually get a great deal more respect here.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Advice?

Only pity

Please refer to the previous post. 

I wish I could laugh, but I just pity you now. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

ROFLMAO!

Free, I have had it with this intellectually adolescent troll

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Oh noes....

Please don't stop replying to my posts, I don't know how I will sleep at night.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Facts are Facts

Come on, facts are facts is your answer.  So you believe everything you hear or see in print.  Thought you were Tech, but you just want to be Popular!  PawpawN

No

I believe verifiable facts. Facts are Facts, not Opinions are Facts like others believe.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

poptech finnaly found a forum!

Poptech finally found a forum!  Good for you! 

Now explain to me how your choice for VP, Wayne Allen Root, stacks up against Palin and why we should trust YOU as an objective, reasonable judge of what qualifies someone for office.

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Cobra... LOL...I think PT

Cobra... LOL...I think PT started the forum thread here.

Btw...not everybody is head over heals in love with Palin, (I know, the majority are here)...that also does not make one a woman hater either that I am seeing some being accused of if they are male and don't like some of her views.

Illegal immigration and cap and trade are mighty big issues with me...and she is not on the side of how I view these very important issues.

Btw..Did you watch the Libertarian Party on C-Span, the whole thing, until the end, speeches, votes and all?

What don't you like about Root?

Just curious...not being snide whatsoever. 

BT

i watched a lot of that convention, iirc Sarc was not happy as he supported Mary who was somewhat livid over WAR's backroom deal to obtain the VP spot.

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

botg... I cracked up

botg...

I cracked up laughing watching all the wheeling and cut-throat dealing going on with the whole danged show...

Like I told sarc and Dave when we were going back and forth about the convention and the outcome, the Libertarian Party ain't what it used to be, even close to way back when I thought I was going to join the party...anyway, to make a long story short....neither of them watched the thing...it was sort of humorous as I like both posters, just because we don't always agree, didn't/doesn't mean I didn't enjoy some of their views back then...know what I mean?

Anyway, I got a kick out of Mary....who I would never vote for either. Bob Barr has changed so much from when he was in congress...I started to see the change in him, about a year and a half before he left...it made me sad...as he was once one of my favorite conservative congressman...heck, I've been listening and watching these critters for too many years me thinks....   ;-)

Never a big fan

I've never been a big fan of primaries, too much like a giant group of kids picking the "team captian" in the playground game of stickball for my tastes and WAY too many dramaqueens whining about their loss later on.

After what others have told me, I almost wish I would have watched the Libertarian primary though, just for the laugh factor.

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of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Barr

I think Bob Barr must have taken a swig outta Joe Scarbourgh's thermas cause they both used to be real conservatives but something happened. Joe runs hot and cold, left and right so much I do not trust him at all. He used to be our congressman but what a change.

doug... You and me

doug...

You and me both...he broke my heart about a year or so before he left too...(this was when I paid bore attention to the House than the Senate), here was this real conservative guy who morphed right in front of my eyes within years to a fence-sitter at times...in the McC mode, it was unbelievable.

I know a lot of in-fighting was going on behind the scenes with a revolt on the repub side towards Gingrich and crew...which is another seperate matter that I have my own opinions about...lol.

Aiy

me as well. Newty does and says some things sometimes that makes me gag. I am very much convinced we can hardly trust "nary a one" of them. I now have the gift of suspicion regarding all politicians. Like lawyers, if you shake the s**t out of them there is nothing left but lips and a briefcase.

doug... I'm smiling...I

doug...

I'm smiling...I can tell we are on the same page here, from newt on down...

I watched what he did to repubs that didn't bend to his will during primaries with $$$ and such, let alone canceling appearances/rallies that were sculled and such...don't even want to get into his global warming crap before he was against it type of thing, if anybody watched that so-called debate, as it was billed as, then got dumbed down to whatever title they changed it to on C-span with Kerry, it was infuriating....and I don't even want to get into oil and being self-dependent here within our borders, another he was for it before he was against it before he was for it again type of thing...he is as phony as they come, been in DC too long...makes one sad as another one bit the dust over years right in front of your very eyes from when you started listening to them to where they just blow in the wind in their hot air...all they really care about is what is best politically and in their pocket-books...via TV time to-boot. 

Your last sentence sums it all up well...right to a tee in fact.

Pop is OBSESSIVE

"Btw...not everybody is head over heals in love with Palin"

I understand that, but Pop is OBSESSIVE when it comes to Palin.

"What don't you like about Root?"

For one thing, he has as about as much qualification for office as I do, and a thousand times less than Palin.  Isn't that the reason for Pop's complaints about Palin, that she isn't qualified?  I've never seen Pop post anything negative about Root's qualifications for office.  Why the hypocrisy?  Pop contently posts his "resume" for Palin because he's against her, but not once have I seen him post a resume for Root, who he actually supported. Could it be that Pop is BIASED due to his political affiliations?

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of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

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Hey cobra...we all know by

Hey cobra...we all know by now PT's bias, so let it be.

He has a right to his opinions, same as we all do.

Problem is, everyone jumps on the band-wagon and attacks him, for hours and hours, while he defends his own views...as anyone would if that is their make-up...know what I mean?

If others would just make a comment or two if need be, or just move on, this wouldn't be such a huge deal as it has turned into from what I have watched take place over time.

PT isn't a troll, good lord knows he and I have had our brouhahas...but I respect him as I do a lot of other posters here that have different opinions that I admire and learn from thinking about what they have to say....and mulling some of the facts as they see them over.

I just hate to see this constant fight...let alone the attack on another great poster here that does contribute a lot to the site and always has.

Hey, bt. We heard you the

Hey, bt. We heard you the first time. ;)

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

QM... LOL...well heck, I

QM...

LOL...well heck, I was just checking!

I wouldn't "attack" him

I wouldn't "attack" him if he just stopped jumping into any thread that even mentions Palin's name with his endless posts of "resumes" and lists of links to polls and/or opinion pieces showing why Palin isn't qualified. She's not even running for office right now and STILL he's there, posting those lists and links.

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of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
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If only Pop would follow that advice

"If others would just make a comment or two if need be, or just move on,
this wouldn't be such a huge deal as it has turned into from what I
have watched take place over time.
"

If only Pop would follow that advice, the whole problem  would be avoided.  Pop brings this upon himself, he has only himself to blame.

BTW, Why should Pop be allowed to express his opinions in every thread that mentions Palin but I, and others, should "let it go" and "just move on?"

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

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Hey Cobra... Please don't

Hey Cobra...

Please don't get me wrong...granted...like I said, it works both ways...like I said, we have had our own disagreements.

I just hate to see the provocations in various threads made with his name in them, when he isn't even here during the day, that of course he is going to answer later... and I hate to see so many jump all over him like vultures...almost instantly...seems to be with glee to that others are enjoying this.

Trust me, some people see this go on constantly that have been here awhile just turn and go somewhere else.

I also hope you see where I am coming from...do understand both sides, I just wished the seeming need to call him a troll and for him to be gone would end...that is all. 

Those are predictions

If you're talking about my posts, those are not provocations, they are predictions based on months of experiencing Pop's Anti-Palin posts. It's the same with Global Warming, if Global Warming is the topic, you can be sure that Pop will show up with another one of his lists.

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of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
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Didn't see it, didn't care

"Btw..Did you watch the Libertarian Party on C-Span, the whole thing, until the end, speeches, votes and all?"

No, sorry, I didn't see it..  I'm not a Libertarian so I have no interest for them or their primaries.

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of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

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BT

"Illegal immigration and cap and trade are mighty big issues with me...and she is not on the side of how I view these very important issues."

That's the meat of it-- I agree---I like Palin--but I think she has a long way to go, and she sure as hell seems better than what we got. Maybe I just feel that way because I believe that socialism will kill America dead.

Si, se puede!!!!

Another issue that I--

Another issue that I-- do not bother to discuss here as a rule-- I recently read a couple of fantastic articles on free trade and Keynesian economics. It torpedoed one of our famous posters here.  Quite like your statement about persistence in arguing with PT, I felt the same way about that poster. Most economists have come around--

 

Holy Sh** they are actually saying that it is impossible to have free trade in an environment like today's. They even mentioned that 50 cent and hour employees are impossible competition. Even GWB made a statement just before the clock ran out on him about how he would have to abandon some free market attitudes to improve things in America.

I also just read that the estimate of illegal employment jobs is around 6,500,000 jobs. That would make a nice dent in our unemployment situation. Geez , maybe if we started manufacturing things in the USA again we would weather the current storm better.

Wish I saved the articles. They made me feel quite justified in my economic opinions. 

 

 

 

 

Populist whining

 Geez , maybe if we started manufacturing things in the USA again we would weather the current storm better.  When did Boeing stop making aircraft in WA?  I missed that one...

(for starters)

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misterb... Of course I

misterb...

Of course I voted the ticket, mainly because of my fear of O, knowing he would do just what he is doing...I, like all of us here, immediately caught the fever with Palin, what refreshment needed to a dead party...especially the leader on our side kept throwing other conservatives under the bus and kissing the msm arse...plus I was all for her because of the pure filth the msm did to her, plus McC pulling her back when he never should have, the idiot.

I always said though, I don't know what her real views are on illegal immigration and global warming type of BS...well, not long before the election my heart sank, she was for cap and trade, and the McC/Kennedy amnesty bill...or as Reid calls it now, The Dream Act....which will be put to the floor again and passed with no problems now as we all know.

I hard two interviews AFTER the election with Palin to judge for myself if she was just saying what McC wanted during the run, or what she really felt, well she confirmed what I feared, she sticks to both of the issues that she first held.

FS and I got into the Palin debate waaaay back now, way before anybody had heard of her. (hence his Palin thread)..I didn't like her then, for my own reasons and it has to do with political crap for years to her rise in Alaska, how she got there, who she used and stabbed in the back in my own opinion to get there...nothiong to do with what all happened after she was named as VP...nevertheless...I  think we have a long way to go....and I do not want anybody crammed down my throat yet as to who we are already deciding to be our fearless leader in 12...for me she is too much like McC when it comes right down to it....walk both sides of the aisles to get where I want...

Ah well...some things never change....and never will.

poptechs choice

WAR is experienced in backroom deals!!

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BTW, POP

BTW pop, if 70 percent of the people polled didn't believe that Sarah would  be qualified to "step up onto office" like one your citations claims, why did the McCain/Palin ticket get more than 30 percent of the popular vote?

 

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Well, no one polled me. But

Well, no one polled me. But I voted for McCain despite the fact that I didn't feel Palin was qualified. Anyone have any stats on those who voted for McCain despite their opinion of Palin? I'm just asking.

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I cancled out your anti-Palin vote

I voted for McCain/Palin because I liked Palin and I thought she'd bring a little Conservatism to the Presidency, something that McCain lacks.

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Well, I voted for

Well, I voted for McCain/Palin because the alternative was unthinkable. Mitt Romney was my guy, if not for Pres. for V.P. But I'm sure we don't need to start that discussion at this point in time.

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I liked Romney too.

I liked Romney too, as well as Huckabee.  But nether of them were on the ticket, alas.  Maybe next term?

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Ha. I made fun of Huckabee

Ha. I made fun of Huckabee until after the primaries when I actually got to know him better. How about Romney/Huckabee in 2012? Or does the party have to run a woman or a black - at least in the V.P. spot?

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That works for me.

"How about Romney/Huckabee in 2012?"

That works for me.

"Or does the party have to run a woman or a black - at least in the V.P. spot?"

Naw, leave it to the Democrats to run the Black Latino Wiccan Lesbian Transvestite for that position. Al Gore's still available, isn't he?

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If they don't do it

And if they don't, I'm pretty sure the Libertarians will do it.

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Romney/Huckabee

well seeing it was a Huckabee manuever that torpedoed Mitt's chances and gave the nomination to McCain, i'd have trouble trusting Huckabee again --- ever.

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botg... Yep...the

botg...

Yep...the Huckster out-manuevered even himself in the long-run.

Yep, and Nader killed Gore's presidency

Yep, and Nader killed Gore's presidency in 2000. 

The only one who killed Romney chances was Romney.  I don't blame another for my failures, so I'm not going to blame someone else when a candidate that I favor loses.  I place that blame on the candidates themselves and not on their competitors.

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Cobra... What was sad to

Cobra...

What was sad to me with Romney was about the time he was more than double-crossed for the finish of him, he was finally getting more comfortable on the campaign trail, starting to be more natural and loosen up a lot when he spoke...really getting into it more as he was coming along and speaking to us out here, instead of being so fearful and stiff when he spoke.

I know I'm not explaining this right, but I sure hope you know what I mean.

Anyway...matters not now.

True, it's all over.

"Anyway...matters not now."

That's true, I just don't understand why people have a tendency to pick one candidate in which to blame.  The Republicans had a wide field of choices.  Why not place the blame on all of them?  They all contributed to the results.

As for Romney himself, he's learned from his loss.  He'll do better next time.  We'll see if his improvement will be enough.  I hope it is as I do like him as a Republican candidate.

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cobra... I am not placing

cobra...

I am not placing the blame on anyone.

There were a lot of factors of how McC got in, I don't want to rehash them, heck, Florida was the started, good ol Crist the RINO...blah blah blah.

For me, just the way I think, I don't want to see any of the previous characters run in 12...I want some real conservative blood to run, and proud to say so...and not back down for one bleeping second because of fear of the msm or anything else...

I can hope, they say it springs eternal.

cobra

Huck pulled a move that has lost him support, period

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

So did MCain

Huckabee hasn't lost my support.  I don't blame him for Romney's loss.  McCain won, why not place the blame for Romney's loss on McCain?  

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McCain didn't have

the support to end things when he did without Huckabees move.

would McRino had gotten the nomination anyway?  probably, though since Huck guareenteed us a Rino i will not trust him again.

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Romney deserved to lose.

You make it sound like Romey's only chance was to rely upon the support of Huckabee. Is that what you are telling me? If so, then Romney deserved to lose.  He failed to anticipate and make plans for the competition that occurs in every campaign for office. 

This is politics, the world of maneuvering and scheming, where people compete  against each other for their positions, even within their own party.  If Romney couldn't handle the competition within his own party, how could he handle the competition of the other parties? 

Romney was out maneuvered by Huckabee,  1 point to Huckabe. -1 point to Romney.  Welcome to the world of Politics, Ladies and Gentlemen.

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Cobra... Strictly out of

Cobra...

Strictly out of curiosity and nothing more, have you caught Huck's shows on the week-ends at Fox?

...and if so, what are your opinions of them, and have you gleaned anything new you may have not known about him?

I've watched some of them

 I've watched some of a few shows.  None all the way through.  I like his style, and how he allows the people debating on his show to actually answers questions and make comments without interrupting them.  That's rather rare, nowadays.

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Huck sucks

Huckabee sucks.  I determined this on a nice long flight when I read an article he himself penned for Foreign Policy magazine (Jan/Feb 2008; most famously, in there he referred to GWB's "bunker mentality").  On that basis alone, I have to say no. 

There is only one reason people like Huckabee, IMHO.  And that reason is not enough for me to ever support him.   

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BTW

BTW, my favorite show on Fox is Hannity, specifically his Hate Hannity Hotline.  That's great!  More people should do that.

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Thanks cobra.I have

Thanks cobra.

I have caught quite a few of them, was really looking forward to them too.

He leans/caters too much to the left for me.

What bugs me is I can't remember the particular shows/guests, but that is how I took them, the main reason why I quit watching them for the most part, I catch a little here and there still, don't get me wrong, he is nice enough, but not conservative enough for me.

edit~Allan Keyes is what I call conservative...he is my view of what I want to see lead this country, has been for years, I remember the first time I ever heard of this man and heard him speak, a Perot straw poll doings...he had me memerized....he follows the Constitution.

Oh well...one thing about it...no one can have it all.  ;-)

  Cobra, Didn't PT

 

Cobra,

Didn't PT support Barr?  How well did HE do in the elections?

He only got 510,453 votes!!!!!  So it looks like PT backs a real winner there!!

PT has had PDS from Day 1 of her announcement as McCain's running mate.  I do not know why he dislikes her so much since she is far more qualified to be Vice President than Barr is to President.

PDS

I believe that's the case. The fact that he spends the vast majority of his time disparaging Palin and virtually none to promote the merits of his boy Barr demonstrates a severe case of PDS.

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NewsBusters does not cover Barr

But they constantly defend Palin from herself.

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And Plain is far more popular than Barr...

...So it looks like NB's support is helping her.  Is that what has you so upset, that NB supports someone from the attacks by the MSM that you don't?

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Obama is more popular than Palin

I have a problem with NB defending Palin from herself. She deserved much of the criticism she received being an affirmative action pick.

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Looks like Palin lost the election

So much for your "winner" ROFLMAO!

Palin from day one was NOT the most qualified for VP let alone POTUS, Romney, Thompson and Rudy were all more qualified. Bob Barr is far more qualified than Palin.

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100% of---

100% of misterbill preferred Sarah Palin's inexperience over Obama's inexperience.

(Plus viewing his pecs did not excite me as it may have excited PT.)

100% or misterbill felt better voting for the RINO -jerk- McCain than he did for McCain himself. (Cried as I touched the screen.)

100% of misterbill wishes a lot of people would enrich their lives and move on--drop their fetish (Palin hatred)--and move on.

100% of misterbill will smile as all the liberal idolaters and bootlickers of the inexperienced Messiah see that the country is sinking in a rathole of appeasement and socialism. Unfortunately, those stupid asses are dragging people like the majority here down the rathole with them.

100% of ----

botg is certain tha Obamas policies will deepen and extend the economic slump and the MSM will praise him for saving us from the slump

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After sinking into the rathole

After sinking into the rathole, will misterbill allow this Messiah bootlicker to live in 10% of his residence if I do 100% of the yard work?

Jer

PopTech - There are so many of your mistakes to correct.

PopTech - There are so many of your mistakes to correct.

Religion:
- Pentecostal

Again, you are wrong.  She was raised Catholic, did attend a Pentacostal Church, but she now attends an Evangelical church (since 2002).

And naturally, you use

And naturally, you use Rachel Madow as a source for your first video.

You are just too funny!

Well, that should just about do it for your credibility here, PT

Whatever microscopic remnant of it that may have yet remained just evaporated into utter oblivion.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

let's break this down

Link 1: A visiting minister calls on honest Christians to get more involved in running the nation's economy and notes that Israel has had much economic success. The most common understanding of his sermon is that Israel, as a righteous nation, made good decisions with their economy and prospered. Rachel Maddow's understanding is that he is somehow attacking Jews for greedy.

Link 2: Politico notes that Democrats hope to drive Jews away from McCain/Palin by emphasising her evangelical (read: annoying) lifestyle. The article says that many Jews dislike the missionary group Jews for Jesus because they - gasp! - try to convert Jews to Christ and point out mistakes by the Israeli government in regards to Christian prophesy. (When a liberal does that they are being thoughtful. When a Republican does that it's because they hate Jews.)

Link 3: The Guardian gives its British readers a recap of all the nasty rumors and Maddow's special interpretation of remarks made in church.

BTW Pop, when you get around to explaining why Ron Paul let his name get printed on a newsletter filled with actual anti-Semite language, you will have a little more ground to attack Palin.

 

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Please

That was a clear swipe at Jews running the economy. It does not get any more blatant then that.

I did not vote for Ron Paul, I voted for Bob Barr but the claims of Paul being anti-semetic are absurd, both of the economists he advocates are Jewish - Rothbard and Mises.

The Rockwell files (The Economist)

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of course pop

Instead of breaking down what was actually said, you accept Rachel Maddow's premise.  

Then instead of debunking the accusation against Paul, you quickly dismiss it as absurd and then move on.

This goes back to the same point Unsane made yesterday. You ignore controversies around other politicians and constantly attack certain ones. And no, it doesn't have anything to do with how much exposure they get on NB since you don't expend near this much energy attacking Obama, Biden, Pelosi, or Boehner. The night of Obama's address to Congress, instead of breaking down Obama's speech and linking to problems with it, you went out of your way to attack Bobby Jindal.

Please tell me exactly why the claims against Paul are absurd. What was written in his newsletter was far more explicit than anything said in Palin's church, and Paul was content to have his name endorsing it until he started running for president.

But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.

-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823

Why it is impossible Ron Paul is Anti-Semetic

Murray Rothbard and Ludwig Von Mises are both Jewish. Thus it is an utter impossibility. There is nothing to dismiss, read the link.

I attack Obama all the time so I have no idea what you are talking about.

Bobby Jindal has a legitimate problem which I pointed out.

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Palin still attends a Pentecostal Church

Does Sarah Palin Have a Pentecostal Problem? (Time Magazine)
Where she was saved (Salon)

"When she's in the state capital, Palin attends the Juneau Christian Center, an Assemblies of God (Pentecostal) Church"

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okay PopTech

So she has the nerve to make return visits to a church she used to attend, and that's proof that she is lying about her own belief system. Nice logic there.

What will you attack Palin with next? She brushes her teeth incorrectly? Wears the wrong shade of foundation? Once flopped to draw a foul in a basketball game? 

 

But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.

-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823

Palin still attends a Pentecostal Church

I never said she was lying as she was intentionally vague about her religious beliefs. But facts are facts.

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Yet another half-truth.

Yet another half-truth.

- Resigned, Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, 2003-2004 

How come you did not also note why she resigned?  Because of the corruption all around her.  After she turned some of these guys in, a few resigned and one even had to pay a record fine to settle ethics charges.

Once again, what is actually a shining moment is twisted into something far different.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

NEWSFLASH!

Palin wasn't elected. You may cancel the Red Alert and go about your business.

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Is Sarah Palin irrelevant?

Sarge: You are of course correct. However, there is still a contingent of Palin supporters who are calling for her candidacy in 2012. If she wasn't qualified for V.P. in 2008, I think it's fair to speculate as to whether she will be any more qualified in 2012. Or are you thinking that the party will be moving in a different direction in 2012?

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QM

In 2012, Palin will have been Governor for 6 years (assuming re-election).

How does 6 years as Governor = unquallified for President, but being a legislator (Representative or Senator) = quallified?

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Palin still relevant

My point was that this idiot is expending a lot of energy wringing his hands over Palin when the election was decided months ago. Meanwhile, as for the one who IS President, he has hardly a disparaging word because of his irrational hatred of Palin. He is consumed by it.

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George Mason

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Poppy I throw my shoe at you

Poppy I throw my shoe at you 

"America is on the Short Bus to Socialism"

darkman

when did you get your iraqi press card?

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All we wish is that you get rid of your OBSESSIVE DEVOTION

Your OBSESSIVE DEVOTION to Sarah Palin notwithstanding, she IS qualified.

She is over 35 years of age.

She has been a resident of the United States for 14 years.

She is a natural born citizen, both by her parents and by the fact she was born in the United States. 

Please notice the United States Constitution says absolutely nothing about what degree must be held (or if you should have a degree at all), where you must get the degrees from, what size in population towns or states have to be that you have run in the past, and so on. 

Also notice that we are 1000 days at least from the NH primaries of 2012 and the "Hawkeye Cauci".  Anything can happen between then and now.  Will I find someone better than Sarah Palin?  Maybe.  But if I don't?  I'll vote for her.  We'll hold the primary anyways, just to see, just because, just to make sure, who gets the Republican "nod".   

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Then Obama is Qualified

Thanks for proving my point.

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PopTech

Finally admited you were an Obama supporter ?

About time.

Nope

I never admitted that but you guys prove my point over and over.

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Poppie

That you have PDS ?

It is self-evident.

Nope

That is your pathetic smear.

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Considering that you say a

Considering that you say a Gambler, who produces a TV show and has no government experience is more qualified for V.P. than a sitting Governor,

kind of proves the point about PDS, doesn't it?

Especially when you consider Wayne's greatest hits:

By Wayne himself:

 

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Yes a CEO is more qualified then a Beauty Pagent Winner

The Libertarian Party is against the war on drugs not an endorser of their use.

That is not his position on borders:

"Mark_Wolf(Q) How would you deal with illegal immigration? Do you support stronger border enforcement?
wayne_allyn_root(A) You had to ask the most difficult question for a Libertarian? LOL. I'm more of a Ron Paul Libertarian on this one. But it is a complex issue. Libertarians generally believe in open borders. Under the CURRENT situation that is dangerous (because of the threat of terrorism) and disasterous(because it will lead to he BANKRUPTCY of the USA). If we could end welfare and entitlements of all kinds for immigrants tomorrow, I'd support "open borders." But we all know thats not going to happen. Even then I'd demand tight border security to screen for disease, criminal background, terrorism associations."

I support getting rid of many of our foreign bases, which are a waste of money.

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Wayne Allyn Root: I'd support "open borders."

I'd support "open borders."

See !  He said it!

I have the facts on my side.

 

UPDATE: If she was only a pagent winner, people might agree.  Since she did 6 years as mayor and 2 as Governor it is a different story.

free

by pop-logic if Sarah is a pagent winner then poopdecks a pre-schooler

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Nope

"I'd support open

"I'd support open borders"

yes indeed WAR said just that, sorry but that's just the facts poppie

Wayne Allyn Root on Immigration

"I'm more of a Ron Paul Libertarian on this one. But it is a complex issue. Libertarians generally believe in open borders. Under the CURRENT situation that is dangerous (because of the threat of terrorism) and disasterous(because it will lead to he BANKRUPTCY of the USA). If we could end welfare and entitlements of all kinds for immigrants tomorrow, I'd support "open borders." But we all know thats not going to happen. Even then I'd demand tight border security to screen for disease, criminal background, terrorism associations."

Yes many libertarians support open borders, you act like this is new. But the context Mr. Root explained it is quite clear, you would first end ALL entitlements and welfare.

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More utopianism

The issue of "open borders" has a teensy bit more to do with other issues other than entitlements and welfare (like national defense, an issue Libertarians treat as a nuisance - hence their love of a whiny, powerless America). 

It's not really a good idea to just have anyone and everyone enter your country.  Even the EU, with its Schengen Pact - to which not all EU countries belong - checks who enters member countries at the point of entry.  There IS a reason for that.   

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More Illiteracy

Try rereading the quote again.

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I'd support "open

I'd support "open borders"

 

---------Wayne Allen Root

 

just the facts, spam

Full Context Again

"I'm more of a Ron Paul Libertarian on this one. But it is a complex issue. Libertarians generally believe in open borders. Under the CURRENT situation that is dangerous (because of the threat of terrorism) and disasterous(because it will lead to he BANKRUPTCY of the USA). If we could end welfare and entitlements of all kinds for immigrants tomorrow, I'd support "open borders." But we all know thats not going to happen. Even then I'd demand tight border security to screen for disease, criminal background, terrorism associations."

Many Libertarians support open borders, not me. So I fail to see your point. I already know all this, it is like you are trying to convince yourself of something you already agree with.

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PT, aching for Whiny America

 I support getting rid of many of our foreign bases, which are a waste of money.  Therefore you are a supporter of Whiny America.  An America with 300 million sheep that just sit around waiting to be slaughtered, after which we react, instead of being proactive, and working to prevent slaughter to begin with.

Sitting around and playing defense all the time was sure effective in keeping us out of WWII, wasn't it?  Well, it worked until 1154 CST 7 December 1941, anyways...

You should like the bases in Japan.  The only thing that the United States pays for there is the equipment (planes, the equipment to maintain them, etc).  Japan pays for the bases themselves.

To paraphrase JFK, by protecting the freedom of Seoul, we protect the freedom of Tokyo and Los Angeles as well. 

The Libertarian party supports the legalization of drugs.  It indeed is completely obsessed with the legalization of drugs.  So much so that I agree with another poster, BD: if drugs are ever legalized, the Libertarian party will go away and will be able to hold party conventions in a hall closet.  To me, this is an endorsement of their use.  Why else would you legalize them?

It figures you worship an idiot like Ron Paul, the great embarrassment to the state of TX.   

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

Yes many of our foreign bases are a waste of money

This has nothing to do with keeping a strong military, full and complete second amendment rights including allowing fully automatic weapons, the right to concealed carry and every right to self defense.

What is sad is how you just make things up when you have no points.

If I was in charge of our defense - no we would never get attacked.

Again, SOME in the libertarian party are obsessed with drugs, others not. This will continue to be a problem for the party. I do not support the legalization of drugs. The President cannot legalize them anyway so this is not my concern.

I don't worship Ron Paul, never have but I do respect his economic positions. Ron Paul is certainly not an idiot.

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You have yet to impress me even a little bit

 This has nothing to do with keeping a strong military  You may want to refrain from arguing matters military with me as you quite clearly do not know what you are talking about on that front. 

What makes the United States military the most powerful in the world?  Answer: power projection.  Many of the foreign bases you so hate are keys to that power projection, and the maintenance of peace around the world. 

This is why a great deal of economic interruption is avoided.  Don't kid yourself.  North Korea knows that if it begins raining artillery shells down on Seoul, it does so at the risk of its existence - at the hands of the United States AND South Korea.  Our troops are there to deter the threat, and in so doing, provide for economic stability for many of our trading partners in Asia. 

As you clearly do not understand that being proactive, and going on offense, is the best defense, as opposed to sitting around, being whiny, and waiting until it's too late to do anything about anything, please ask again and I'll be happy to draw a picture for you, as has to be done with Libertarians when it comes to defense issues.

How the Second Amendment fits into that I have no idea.  So people should have the right to keep and bare arms.  OK...As a gun owner and NRA member, I support that.  But as far as foreign threats go, I'd much rather take care of the enemy when they are thousands of miles away, rather than wait and wait and wait until a few thousand of our citizens die on our soil before doing anything about it, as Libertarians prefer to do. 

I have yet to make a single thing up in regards to you.  Try again.  You can't defend the charges so you whine, cry and pout like a five-year-old.  That's very undignified of you.

If I was in charge of our defense - no we would never get attacked.  How?  Explain this to me in detail.  This ought to be fun.

Again, SOME in the libertarian party are obsessed with drugs, others not. This will continue to be a problem for the party. I do not support the legalization of drugs. The President cannot legalize them anyway so this is not my concern.  OK, so YOU do not support the legalization of drugs, but you hate the enforcement of the laws - the "drug war".  Interesting contradiction there.  And that last sentence exposes a major flaw in the thinking of countless Libertarians - that of "All we need to do is to win the Presidency and that will solve everything imaginable."  Yeah.  Well, at least you get that Congress makes the law.  Sheesh, I can actually give you credit for something. 

I don't worship Ron Paul, never have but I do respect his economic positions. Ron Paul is certainly not an idiot.  Actually, he is.  He deeply hates Israel.  He wants America to be as weak, pathetic, and yes, whiny as possible. And he basically wishes it were 1809, not 2009.  To him, Gold Solves Everything.  No problem, economic or otherwise, cannot be solved without gold.  Never mind that economic laws like Gresham's Law firmly apply to gold, as well as every single economic law and principle known to man. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Pure Idiocy from an Economic Illiterate

The existence of bases around the world has nothing to do with Peace. Our military power comes from our military, around the world this has to do with our Navy more then anything else, especially our Aircraft Carriers and Submarines.

Our base in North Korea does nothing more then a mutual defense treaty would do.

You clearly are clueless as no one but yourself is talking about being whiny. Again you keep stating absolutely idiotic positions that you fabricate out of thin air.

I never said I hate the drug war, again you just keep making things up. You just keep creating strawmen because you have no points, you have to invent them to argue with yourself. Your post is just massive stupidy through fabrication.

You don't even understand economics, let alone money or Gresham's Law.

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He's right Unsane.

"OK, so YOU do not support the legalization of drugs, but you hate the
enforcement of the laws - the "drug war".  Interesting contradiction
there"

If anyone is even more against drug legalization  or lax enforcement of drugs than you, it would be PT.

He had my vote

Perhaps, Shawn

but his pick for president doesn't agree with him

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Poppie

The existence of bases around the world has nothing to do with Peace

Uh-huh.

"Run away!  Run away!"  --Monty Python

 

"I Love To Gamble"  -Wayne Allyn Root (2008 Libertarian V.P. Candidate)

It Doesn't

You think countries don't attack us because we have a base in Germany? Or is it the unknown location of our trident submarines? Give me a break.

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Being stationed at one of those bases, I'd say YES!

Pop. after spending 18 months being stationed at one of those bases in Germany in the mid 80's, and see for myself the thousand of tanks that the USSR had ready to roll across the Fulda Gap and invade West Germany, tanks that would have been destroyed by the very machines that I repaired, Cobra Attack Helicopters, I'd have to say YES, those bases (there were a lot more than one base) DID keep other countries from attacking us.

You see, unlike you, I have actual experience with this particular subject.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Germany is now unified

So the continued presence of the base is a waste of money. Hint: the cold war is over.

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Get a clue, Pop

Get a clue, Pop, the USSR wasn't our only threat. The threats to America still remain.  Russia is flexing it's military muscles again, remember?   Europe is still connected by land to the Middle eats, remember?  Those bases are STILL needed.

You really don't know much about military strategy, force projection, and defensive positions, do you?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

You need a clue

Russia is in no position to invade any European country. The middle east armies are a joke. No those bases are not needed.

I have extensive knowledge of military strategy and defensive positions, much more than many enlisted. "Force Projection" is what our Navy provides.

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CO2 might not be a pollutant, but you damn sure are, troll.

Given the performance of Barack Hussein Obama over the last 30 days, how can you possibly assert that he is in any way qualified for the office of POTUS?

Yet, you insist on implying that others here have no integrity?

ROFLMFAO!

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Unsane declared Obama Qualified

No PT, you did, you 12yo pud-knocking troll.

Clearly, you are an Obamanista, as you have repeatedly placed him above Sarah Palin on the threads of this site.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Nope Unsane did by declaring Palin qualified

...by Constitutional standards. Thus I will continue to ROFLMAO!

I am clearly not an Obama supporter nor a Palin supporter despite your lies.

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Thanks for proving my point.

And thank you for proving, once again, that you are now nothing but a troll here at NB.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Thanks for the smear!

You are truly a merchant of smear!

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For the betterment of humanity, please ban this ignorant troll

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

----said the clown prince

----said the clown prince of spam

Pot, meet kettle

The one poster committed to smearing Sarah Palin, calling other people smear merchants.

Pot, meet kettle.   

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

Total Lies

I am not committed to smearing her. I have never smeared her, I have pointed out extensively why she is not qualified.

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BS, Pop

You've been smearing Palin since day one.  I've been a member here for quite a while and I noticed you started posting negatives things about Palin since the first day her candidacy for VP was announced. You've continued doing that in every single thread that even mentioned Palin's name.  You're still smearing even tho she's not running for office.  That's obsessive behavior.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Propaganda

I've never smeared Gov. Palin, all of my positions are substantiated by facts. Your confusion on my posting of things you don't want to hear is not smearing, it is uncomfortable.

You cannot even comprehend the difference.

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It's the other way around, Pop.

It's the other way around, Pop.  You can't stand to hear anything positive about Palin.  That's why you have to post negative things about her in response to those positive comments.

It's unfortunate for you that you don't recognize this.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Wrong, I cannot stand the excuses and myths

It is unfortunate you are delusional.

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The rage of the obsessively devoted

You actually have a point other than you are enraged that Sarah Palin is allowed to breathe? 

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

The Obsessive Smears

You inform..

.. and anyone who disagrees with you is smearing you.  Ok, I got it.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Confusion

Anyone who posts lies and fabrication about me or my positions is smearing me. Disagreeing with me has nothing to do with that.

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I disagree with you on that.

I disagree with you on that.  You smear Palin every chance you get.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Utter Lies

You are so dishonest you only know how to lie.

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Wayne Allyn Root's Resume (Libertarian V.P. Candidate)

This is the guy who was Bob Barr's (Libertarian) V.P. in 2008:

And people who voted for Barr say the Governor (and former Mayor, and former councelwoman) Sarah Palin is unqualified!  LOL!

 

Wayne Allyn Root's Resume

Age: 48

Religion:
Judaism

Education:

  • Valedictorian, Thornton-Donovan School, (New Rochelle, NY)
  • B.S. Political Science, Columbia University 1983

Political Experience

(pre-2008 campaign)

  • None

(post-2008 campaign)

Professional Experience:

  • Employee/host/?? of WNBC/WFAN radio. 1980s
  • Sports Talk Host for NBC Source Radio Network. 1980s
  • TV Anchor on FNN/CNBC 1989 - 1990s
  • Authored The Joy of Failure!, 1997
  • TV Host of Wayne Allyn Root's Winning Edge, 2000-present
  • Authored The Zen of Gambling, 2004
  • Authored Millionaire Republican, 2005
  • Creator, Executive Producer, Co-host of King of Vegas (cancelled? after only 10 episodes), 2006
  • Authored The King of Vegas' Guide to Gambling, 2006

Quotes: (from or about W.A.R.)

By Wayne himself:

About Wayne:

Wayne Allen Root

Wayne Allyn Root

Age: 46

Religion:
- Judaism

Education:
- B.A. Political Science, Columbia University, 1983

Political Experience:
- President, Republican Jewish Coalition of Nevada

Professional Experience:
- Anchorman, Financial News Network
- Executive Producer, 1999-Present
- CEO, Winning Edge International
- CEO, Cool Hand Root Productions

He is already more qualified than Palin. He has relevant education, real private sector experience running a business and understands economics.

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Update: Executive Producer? LOL

Those companies of his?  The gambling companies?  The ones that are (as far as I can tell) production for his TV show.

And why is it so hard to find information about Wayne Allyn Root on the internet?

  1. It's being hidden ?
  2. He is a nobody ?
  3. He is so amazing we should already have it memorized ?

BTW - those "companies" of his are *small* businesses.  He calls himself a small business owner.  I'll take a Governor of a State with a  multi-Billion dollar budget over a self-described small business owner anyday.

Update: Executive Producer?  LOL

hey free

President, Republican Jewish Coalition of Nevada 

 

---just how many jewish republicans can there be in Nevada?  and of them how many are actually in office?  is/was WAR heading a coalition of 3 people?  that's some awesome political experience 

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

botg

I'll equate that one the same as one 2 year term on a City Council.  Let's be Generous to poor PopTech.

He has so little to work with.   ;-)

i don't know free

school board maybe.......................

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

Wayne Allyn Root, CEO of two successful companies...

Palin...

- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989
- Director, Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc., 2003-2007

ROFLMAO!

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VERY successful!

So successful, that they are household names across America, much like Boeing, Microsoft, and Wal-Mart!

Wait a minute... 

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

Some of the biggest companies in the world are not well known

Some of the biggest companies in the world are not well known, that does not make them unsuccessful:

Velaro, McKesson, AmerisourceBergen ect...

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→ Never heard of Velaro

What does Velaro do that's so all-fired important? 

$96 Billion in Revenue

→ You're making this up

I have heard of Valero.  I've got a nephew who works for them.

I have not heard of Velaro.   You claim Velaro had 96 billion in revenues.  Please provide a link.

Your link does not provide info on VelaroValero is there, however.

Sp.

→ Hey, CopyPaste!

I just figured you were more adept with your claim to fame.

We won the cold war!  Why did we surrender?

PopTech, In all fairness you need to add this $1.2 M link?

Will PT EVER POST THIS LINK ?  ROTFLMAO, no way you RAVING  PDSer.

Family Business

Add up the couple’s 2007 income and the estimated value of their
property and investments, and they appear to be worth at least $1.2
million.

Palin this week characterized herself as “an everyday, working-class
American” who knows how it feels when the stock market takes a hit.

One line to add in your BIAS load of PDS POOP.

pURPLe pINKy

Irrelevant

Why would I post a link that states the market value of their properties (not all paid off) and her husband's business not their actual wealth? You seem confused about what private sector experience is.

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Because PDSer , it would be FAIR, which you are NOT, DUH...

You seem confused about what private sector experience is. 

No confusion here, to bad you didn't read any of my link...

I'm not aware of free fishing boats, raining down from the sky?

pURPLe pINKy

She doesn't own any fishing boats

Those are her husbands

Sarah the CEO? (Inc.com)

"Both returns name Todd Palin as proprietor and the couple's Wasilla home as a main office. On her public financial disclosure form, Palin describes the business as a sole proprietorship owned by her husband,"

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→ Same old story

Woman's place is in the home.  We get it. 

Same old smears

Because you have no integrity.

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Part II

He has relevant education,

A Poly Sci degree he didn't use for 25 years !

real private sector experience running a business

A TV production company 

and understands economics.

I think you mean "understands gambing."

Political Science vs Journalism?

So, you admit he was

So, you admit he was unqualified as a journalist too?

POTUS Relevant Degree: Political Science or Journalism?

Lets do a random poll. ROFLMAO!

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So, he worked as a

So, he worked as a journalist, but it's Okay that he didn't have a degree in it?

Therefore it must be fine that Governor Sarah Palin does not have a degree in "Governor".

Thanks for helping clear that up too!

Dumbest argument yet

He was never employed as a journalist. Palin has a degree in journalism which is about as irrelevant as you can get for Governor or President.

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Yet Governor is relevant to

Yet Governor is relevant to President !

Not if you have no private sector experience

and don't understand economics.

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Wayne Allyn Root on fiscal responsibility: "I love to gamble."

You have a nice evening now.

Try not to be too upset that Sarah Palin is Governor of Alaska.

 

 

Wayne Allyn Root on fiscal responsibility: "I love to gamble.

 

Nope

He understands economics and his position is not gambling.

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I have the facts on my side

By Wayne himself:

About Wayne:

We went over all this

Much of this is wrong and the gambling link does not work.

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But I have the facts on my

But I have the facts on my side.

I fixed the link. ". . . I Love To Gamble

 

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Gambling

"On the other hand, I love to gamble. I’m a risk taker - whether it’s betting on a business idea, a stock, a million dollar real estate investment, or the Dallas Cowboys. That’s my chosen form of entertainment.

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Humm...

"He understands economics and his position is not gambling."

Is that why he founded Winning Edge, a sports handicapping company and he is currently suing other handicapping companies for patent infringements?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Not as implied

"Gambling" as implied. 

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Is Pop Tech a snob?

Let's do an NB poll for that.  I vote yes, he is possibly the biggest snob on NB.  ROTFLMAO!!!

(psst, Harry Truman didn't even have a college degree.  How did America possibly survive him?) 

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

I don't think a vote is necessary Unsane.

It's a fact that he is unchallenged for the top spot. His resume is available for all to read here. Again...and again...and again.......

Harry Truman Again?

So you would vote Democrat?

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Do you have a point here?

I'm not a party man.  TX has open primaries.  I have voted Democrat before.  Just not for president.

Your point is? 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

I've never voted for a Democrat, I am not a Socialist

at least you finally admit it.

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Huh?

Admitted what?  

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am not a party man.  I seldom if ever vote Dem on the federal level.   

Maybe this explains why you vomit bibs so much.  You can barely type a coherent post outside of your little link farms.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Admit you vote for Democrats

You vote socialist which explains much.

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wow pop

President of the Republican Jewish Coalition of Nevada? Isn't that rather like bragging you were in charge of a boy scout group?

Are you seriously going to tell us that starting up a string of failed companies is the same as being the governor of a state? Dang I knew you were crazy but that's really something. 

 

But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.

-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823

cadence

lol, look above   GMTA

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

Failed Companies?

His companies have not failed, he is running them today. Yes I will take anyone with private sector experience over a politician who is economically illiterate (Palin) anyday.

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FAMILY BUSINESS $1,200,000.00

Time to back up your PDS..

Yes I will take anyone with private sector experience over a politician who is economically illiterate (Palin) anyday. 

PALIN FAMILY BUSINESS

One measure of financial health: While there is a home loan, Palin
reported no personal credit card debt on her most recent financial
report as Alaska governor.

pURPLe pINKy

Sarah Palin does not have any businesses

Again those are their properties market values (not fully paid off) and her husbands business not their actual wealth. 

This is like saying I made one payment of $500 on a $50,000 car but I am worth $50,000. Please.

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I'm from MO. Show me.

Really? Care to show us where it says in the Constitution that one must run a business, have a "relevant education", and understand economics? 

It fills you with extreme, total rage that Sarah Palin converts oxygen into carbon dioxide, doesn't it? 

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

It doesn't which is why Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin

were all on the ballot. Now you see the problem.

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Snobbery

So, if I understand you right, you want a Constitutional amendment that will entrench, and appeal to, your extreme, total, uncompromising snobbery. 

A snobbery which, when I look at WAR's resume, is unjustified. 

Hell, by your very own standards, I could be President!!!

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

More like intelligence

I want someone as POTUS with private sector experience, not some Populist good looking women who pathetic middle aged men lust after.

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Poppie

good looking women who pathetic middle aged men lust after.

Now, now.  We don't want to know who *you*lust after.  TMI !

No need to lust after imaginary fantasies

when you have the real thing at home.

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So, you finally managed to inflate your deluxe, life-sized...

...Sarah Palin blow-up doll.

Yippee for you.

Who knows? Once you turn 14, perhaps one of your friends can show you how it works, too.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

Sad

No I have a real women who looks better than Palin at home. Thus I have no need for your fantasies.

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Are you a polygamist ?

Are you a polygamist ?

I ask because you keep saying "women" (plural) instead of "woman" (singular), and I am giving you the benefit of the doubt on spelling and grammer.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Hmmmm

"No I have a real women who

"No I have a real women who looks better than Palin at home."

Internet Translation #1: My mommy recently had plastic surgery.

Internet Translation #2: I cut the faces of models out of magazines and paste them all over my room.

Ummm

Poppie

Funny how you were the one who mentioned being:

  1. Pathetic
  2. Middle aged
  3. Lusting after good looking women

In the future, please resist the urge to post your self-descriptions.

 


 

I was talking about you

Lucky you!

 I want someone as POTUS with private sector experience Well you are in luck; Palin has gotten paychecks from other than government entities before.  Looks like she has private sector experience.  You walked right into that one. 

That's what happens when you throw bibs at people instead of actually buckling down and writing the research paper. 

not some Populist good looking women who pathetic middle aged men lust after.  And you wonder why I call you a misogynist...

On a side note: is it possible, with apologies to R D Helm, to find Libertarians that aren't complete boors, a**holes, or blithering idiots?  I know they arew Utopians and that we can't solve that...

"THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!!!  THE HOLOCAUST OF THOUGHT IS DAWNING!!!" - Nevermore, "Bittersweet Feast", from This Godless Endeavor (2005)

Not even close

REAL Private Sector Experience, as in running a successful company.

You try to label me a misogynist because you are trying to smear me. It is all you have left.

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Why would anyone waste time smearing you, PT?

After all, you have managed to smear yourself all over the threads of NB all by your lonesome self.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

You are the merchant of smear

You waste your time smearing me every chance you get. Largely because you are a dishonest individual with no integrity. You are one of the worst posters here at NBs. How are your magic powers working out for you?

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You are so f*****g weak

REAL Private Sector Experience, as in running a successful company.  When you get your ass handed to you, I guess backtracking is a good route, right?

Wrong.  You said "private sector experience".  I said she had it, so you backtrack and move the goalposts. 

You try to label me a misogynist because you are trying to smear me. It is all you have left.  Actually, I find it amusing that one who lives to SMEAR, SMEAR, SMEAR, SMEAR, and SMEAR again is whining like a baby about getting "smeared". 

Time to take you spanking like a good boy. 

You see, Poppy, I call you this because I really don't know what else to conclude.  Virtually any time a thread topic relating to Sarah Palin - who may or may not run again in 2012; again, we have like 1000 days left - is posted here on NB, you run SCREAMING to it, vomit your bibs, and defend your quotations of others by attacking people, being a smartass, and otherwise demonstrating your total immaturity.  Call me crazy, but I have not seen you do this for any other candidate. 

If you did this for other presidential candidates for office, I wouldn't dare call you a misogynist, becuase I wouldn't have a case.  But you don't.  I don't see you go after His Majesty The Shahinshah the way you do Palin.  Again, all this effort expended for a woman who might not even run in 2012 for all we know.  Tell me, what the hell else do I conclude based on the array of evidence with which I am confronted? 

It's hardly a case of all I have left.  I have plenty more.  Like your determination to show one and all you do not like to think critically, analyze, evaluate sources, or put together a post of your very own words which are backed by the words and works of others.  If I tried what you are doing in grad school, or even undergrad study, I would have been laughed right out of academia.  In reality, you have no argument because you aren't making one; you are just vomiting bibs and demanding others do your research FOR you. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

ROFLMAO!

Handed to me? Your made up definition of my words? Only in your mind.

Insane, incase you have not noticed, Palin defense threads keep coming up on NewsBusters. Hardly me initiating the religious worship.

I analyze and evaluate everything I do which is why what I have to say is so damning and you are left to smear.

My argument has been made and then some, Palin is unqualified for VP or POTUS.

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You have yet to impress me even a little bit

Handed to me? Your made up definition of my words? Only in your mind.  You have a lot to learn about English.  English is the world's largest language and demands that its users engage in specificity.  You must type exactly what you mean.

You whined that the evil Sarah Palin does not have private sector experience.  I pointed out to you that, because she has taken a paycheck from the private sector, that she does indeed have private sector experience. 

Then you whine and scream about something called "REAL private sector experience" - I forget I am dealing with the biggest snob on NB - which apparently means to you that running a company is "REAL private sector experience".  To avoid that trap, maybe in the beginning you could have said something like "Sarah Palin has never run a company before."  Had you done that, I wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.  You blew it, kid.  Pay the price, suck it up and move on. 

Remember: this is English.  Use specifics.  They go a LONG way.

Insane, incase you have not noticed, Palin defense threads keep coming up on NewsBusters. Hardly me initiating the religious worship.  You called me Insane?  THAT IS SO SWEET OF YOU!!!!!!!   I am so deeply touched!  Why do Palin defense threads keep coming up?  Perhaps not because of "the Palin collective" you so constantly cry about - but maybe because she is a target for media bias.  Which, for some strange reason, NewsBusters likes to report on.  It might have something to do with the mission statement: "Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias". 

Once again - you have difficulty reading anything you are not the author of, apparently - Palin may not run in 2012, or ever again.  Palin might run but get defeated by another candidate.  We are 1000 days away from the primaries.  Can anyone here outside of a very few posters tell you with certainty we are voting for Palin in 2012?  No.  Yet you still show up here constantly vomiting your bibs here.  Which is a nice segue for...

I analyze and evaluate everything I do which is why what I have to say is so damning and you are left to smear.  This isn't analysis.  It's the vomiting of bibs.  What I do as a grad student is analysis, evaluation, and critical thinking.  Let me put it this way.  I walk up to the prof and turn in a research paper full of analysis, backed by the statements of others that I have found...but ultimately, the conclusions and analysis of that research is mine.  You, on the other hand, walk up to the prof, and hand him/her a long list of sources; a bib.  The prof asks you to elaborate and to conduct some analysis and you respond with smartass comments, shrieking that he/she is out to smear you, blah blah blah.  My paper might get an A.  You get laughed out onto the street. 

You really should never, ever whine about smearing.  Because all you do here - other than whine, is SMEAR, SMEAR, SMEAR, SMEAR, SMEAR, SMEAR and SMEAR people you have the slightest disagreement with.  Unless you like basking in the glow of hypocrisy.

My argument has been made and then some, Palin is unqualified for VP or POTUS.  Except that it isn't your argument.  It is the argument of others.  I really haven't seen YOU make many arguments here yet.  Perhaps it is time you learn to construct some.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Babble

I am not here to impress you, I don't care what you have to say, ever. You seem to think of yourself as overly important.

I did type exactly what I mean, your sad attempt to redefine it away from what I meant is a typical strawman. That is the only way for you to argue anything, lie and fabricate what the other person said.

NB is clearly obsessed with defending Palin despite the election being long over.

See there you go again making stuff up. I've never done that on a research paper. I am also not here to do the paper for you.

I have made many arguments and this one is devastating, Palin is unqualified to be VP or POTUS.

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We are not here to impress

We are not here to impress you, We don't care what you have to say, ever. You seem to think of yourself as overly important.

Your sad attempts to take things out of context is a typical strawman. That is the only way for you to argue anything, lie and fabricate out of context what the other person said.

PT, you are clearly obsessed with attacking Palin despite the election being long over.  

PT you have made many arguments and this one is the weakest, Palin is unqualified to be VP or POTUS.

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts

Running out of smears?

PT.s MAD HATTER PDS SQUARED..

Yes I will take anyone with private sector experience over a politician who is economically illiterate (Palin) anyday.

I want someone as POTUS with private sector experience, not some
Populist good looking women who pathetic middle aged men lust after. 

There you go, and here she is...

PALIN FAMILY  $1,200,000.00 BUSINESS

WASILLA, Alaska – Sarah Palin and her husband have pieced together a
uniquely Alaskan income that reached comfortably into six figures even
before she became governor, capitalizing on valuable fishing rights, a
series of land deals and a patchwork of other ventures to build an
above-average lifestyle.

pURPLe pINKy

Not even close

The combined value of their properties (not all are paid off) and Todd's business has nothing to do with Sarah's non-existent private sector experience.

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Your PDS is actually

Your PDS is actually increasing!

Amazing!

 

"I Love to Gamble"  -Wayne Allyn Root (2008 Libertarian V.P. Candidate)

→ Try to understand Free

In PopTech's world, women are given no credit for building a business with their husband.

  • When Liberals raise the bar, expect The Limbo

I thought you guys would get a kick out of PT's PDS

I even BOLDED FAMILY BUSINESS

pURPLe pINKy

Not her Business

Todd Palin is the name the business is under, not "The Palins" or "Sarah and Todd" but "Todd Palin".

Sarah the CEO? (Inc.com)

"Both returns name Todd Palin as proprietor and the couple's Wasilla home as a main office. On her public financial disclosure form, Palin describes the business as a sole proprietorship owned by her husband,"

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In the real world

Wives who don't own or run businesses are not cedited with owning or running their husbands business, yes that is correct.

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Private sector experience

...but she in fact has private sector experience.  She took paychecks from private businesses in exchange for working for them.

Voila!  Private sector experience. 

Eventually, you will learn about what it means when it is said that English is a language that demands its users engage in specificity.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Nope

That is not what I am talking about.

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Then CLARIFY

Then you need to be more specific. It simply isn't anyone's fault but yours that you were not specific.

Quit being a baby and reach for specificity sometime.  The language which I presume you speak/type in DEMANDS it of its users.  If you were more specific to begin with, perhaps I wouldn't have responded as I did. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

ROFLMAO!

ahem

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boink

 

 

 

 

But acts of kindness and generosity must be free and voluntary; no man has a right to compel another to follow his conscience. This is a concern which lies between a man and his God.

-Richard Fuhrman, pro slave advocate, 1823

~Unsane

I'd vote for ya over any Democrat. ;-)

Expecting the government to 'fix' the economy is like trying to live off the leech stuck to your tush.

You left something out, Pop.

Pop, you left out Root's experience as a Sports Handicapper.  That sure is a benefit to the position of VP, is it not?

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Nope

That is one of the things one of his businesses does. Yes running a successful business is a benefit to the VP slot.

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The Delusional Pop Tech has

The Delusional Pop Tech has created his own Forum to cut and paste his obsession with Gov Palin.Pop backed Bob Barr who only received a little over half a million votes in the last election.  The country does not think Bob Barr and his running mate Wayne Root were qualified to run this country.  So because Barr lost he has decided to take out his frustrations on an infinitely more qualified candidate.

Folks, I think it is time for us to leave this Forum and not post to it again.  Let us ignore it and the person who created it.  He is not worth arguing with since he is to stubborn to ever listen to reason or facts.

Let him have his little forum. He can come here every day and stew in his hatred of Gov. Palin all alone.  Let us not provide anymore fodder for someone who I feel is an attention wh0re.

Bob Barr is more Qualified than Palin

I've criticized Palin from day one and I do not hate her, I believe she is a good person but unqualified for VP or POTUS. This is a no contest...

Bob Barr

Age: 60

Religion:
- Methodist

Education:
- B.A. International Affairs, University of Southern California, 1970
- M.A. International Affairs, George Washington University, 1972
- J.D. Law, Georgetown University Law Center, 1977

Political Experience:
- Chairman, Republican Party, Georgia, 1985-1986
- U.S. Representative, Georgia, 1995-2003
- House Manager, Impeachment Proceedings of President Clinton, U.S. House of Representatives, 1998

Committees:
- Head, Public Corruption Subcommittee, United States Attorney General, 1987-1988
- Chairman, Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administration Law, U.S. House of Representatives
- Vice-Chairman, Oversight and Government Reform Committee, U.S. House of Representatives
- Senior Member, Judiciary Committee, U.S. House of Representatives
- Member, Financial Services Committee, U.S. House of Representatives
- Member, Oversight and Government Reform Committee, U.S. House of Representatives
- Member, Constitution Project's Liberty and Security Initiative
- Member, Libertarian National Committee, 2006-2008

Professional Experience:
- Analyst, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), 1971-1978
- Anti-Drug Coordinator, Southeastern United States, U.S. Justice Department, 1986-1990
- U.S. Attorney (Appointed by President Reagan), Northern District of Georgia, 1986-1990
- President, Southeastern Legal Foundation, 1990-1991
- Attorney, 1978-1986, 1991-1994
- Board of Directors, National Rifle Association (NRA), 1997-Present
- Advisor, Long-Term Strategy Project for Preserving Security and Democratic Freedoms in the War on Terrorism, Harvard University, 2003-2005
- Chairman, American Conservative Union: '21st Century Privacy and Freedom Center, 2003-2008
- Board of Directors, Patrick Henry Center, 2003-Present
- Attorney, Edwin Marger LLC, 2003-Present
- CEO, Liberty Strategies LLC, 2003-Present
- Chairman, Patriots to Restore Checks and Balances, 2005-Present
- Adjunct Professor, Kennesaw State University, 2008-Present

Accomplishments:
- Renaming National Airport for Ronald Reagan
- Authored The Defense of Marriage Act
- Introduced Resolution H. RES. 304 to Impeach Bill Clinton

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Over 98% of the country did

Over 98% of the country did not think Bob Barr or Wayne "The Gambler" Root were qualified to be President and Vice President of the United States.  Yet 46% thought McCain/Palin were.

That's 511,324 to 58,343,671.

Numbers don't lie, you backed a LOSER!!

When and if Gov. Palin runs again I am sure she will wipe the floor with Bob Barr.

 

You backed a loser - Sarah Palin

Sarah Palin, ROFLMAO! Good argument.

I on the other hand voted for who was the best on economics, like I ALWAYS will.

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Funny that you didn't

Funny that you didn't realize McCain was the one running for President, not GOVERNOR PALIN.

 

"I Love To Gamble"  -- Wayne Allyn Root (2008 Failed Libertarian V.P. Candidate)

Yes McCain AND Palin Lost

I know it is embarrassing. ROFLMAO!

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  How many votes did Bob

 

How many votes did Bob Barr and Wayne "I Like to Gamble" Root recieve?

What was that? A little over 500,000? Only 10,000 people per state?

Real winners you got their PT.

The people who donated to their campaign should sue to get their money back. But if they were stupid enough to back them they deserve to lose their money.

Al Gore almost won too

But he came closer than McCain and Palin.

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Barr didn't "almost win"

Barr didn't "almost win."  Barr got his ass handed to him by Nader, NADER!

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McCain and Palin lost BIG time

Gore almost won. The spread between Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin was embarrasing. Palin tanked the ticket so bad you guys are still in utter denial.

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Advice

If only you spent more time critically thinking, learning how to form your own arguments using your own words, reading, writing, evaluating sources, and doing somewhat intellectually honest research instead of ROTFLYAO!

Then, and only then, will you ever be what you once were here. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

It is all I do

Your insinuation to the contrary is a fabrication.

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Not as embarrassing as Root

Not as embarrassing as Root, who was Barr's running mate, the team who also lost by a HUGE margin! Nader did better than Barr!  ROFLMAO! 

What were Root's qualifications again?  That's right, he was a television producer and a sports handicapper.  Oh, and he wrote a few books too.  Yea, that's qualified, NOT!

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

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Yosemite Sam.

Dag Blammit! I said said gimmee a root barr, not a sasparily!

i hate that rabbit.

 

Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.

Wayne Allyn Root's Qualifications

Wayne Allyn Root

Age: 46

Religion:
- Judaism

Education:
- B.A. Political Science, Columbia University, 1983

Political Experience:
- President, Republican Jewish Coalition of Nevada

Professional Experience:
- Anchorman, Financial News Network
- Executive Producer, 1999-Present
- CEO, Winning Edge International
- CEO, Cool Hand Root Productions

He has relevant education, private sector experience and understands economics.

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You keep missing...

...Roots ownership of a sports handicapping business.  I know you're aware of it, so why do you keep avoiding it?

BTW, Pop, a good VP would have some experience in Public Office.  Root has none of that.  Root's not even as qualified for office than Perot was.  Perot was a lot better in businessr than Root will ever be, and Perot even has military experience.

Tell me, pop, did you support Perot?

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CEO, Winning Edge International

It is already mentioned.

Root is highly educated in politics which is acceptable. His private sector experience is more important to me.

Military Experience always helps but it is not required.

Yes I voted for Perot twice, I have mentioned this on many occassions. 

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Keep dreaming, Pop.

"Root is highly educated in politics which is acceptable."

Education will never trump experance.

"Yes I voted for Perot twice, I have mentioned this on many occassions."

Well that really helps you credibility as to informing us who's best qualified for office, NOT!

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.

The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Political Science is relevant to Politics

Fact.

Education can trump experience.

Helps my credibility with who? You? No one cares. I don't care about your opinion of me and never have. This is why you follow me around and not the other way.

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 Let him have his little

 Let him have his little forum. He can come here every day and stew in
his hatred of Gov. Palin all alone.  Let us not provide anymore fodder
for someone who I feel is an attention wh0re.

 Bravo, Scuba Dude.  These postings all seem to be geared towards giving attention to PT.  So he thinks Gov. Palin is unqualified.  Fine.  He's more than stated his case.  I think Obama is a Socialist pig who is fraudulently in the position of POTUS.  People don't agree.  I don't need to get into a pissing contest online with a faceless name on my screen to feel important.  

Discretion is the better part of valor.

 

"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

Thank you dbors (may I call

Thank you dbors (may I call you that?) .  We tried for the longest time to ignore PT and his ravings in the main section of NB but that did not work.  Now that he has his own little room to post his trash to his hearts content I think it is time for us to leave.

I will make 1or 2 more comments here to clarify some things then I will myself will do my best to refrain from stepping foot in here.

See ya on the main board!

I can't help but laugh

I can't help but laugh every time I read Palin's education resume.

Wow.
 

Interesting detail

She has more education than Harry Truman did.   

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Harry Truman?

Not only was a Democrat he was also a Colonel in the military.

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Again, your point?

Try being a Colonel today with only a HS diploma. 

The point is that we have had a president as recently as 60 years ago who did not have a college education; yet in your extreme, total snobbery you demand that not only does the President have to have a college education, that it must be "relevant" (whatever that means) and that it can only come from certain places (oh Shahinshah, not those icky state-funded public institutions!!!) 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

My Point? He was a Colonel in the military

He also attended college for two years and he was a Democrat.

Yes I want qualified, intelligent people for president, unlike Palin supporters:

"Perhaps I am an outlier, but I don’t WANT a super-smart president..." - Palin Supporter

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Deal with it

He also attended college for two years and he was a Democrat.  One, I don't know what his being a Democrat has to do with his education.  It's a fact: he does not have a college degree.  He went to college for two years?  Great.  Anyone can do that.  But the fact remains that he does NOT have a degree.

By your own snobby standards, how did the United States survive eight years of President Truman??? 

Yes I want qualified, intelligent people for president, unlike Palin supporters:  Yes: qualified, intelligent people BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION.  And your definition makes you the biggest elitist snob on the board; something I only thought Leftists were capable of.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Truman was a horrible President

He supported national health insurance (socialized medicine) and universal military training.

We survived FDR who was one of the worst presidents in history.

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What's funny about it? Is

What's funny about it? Is it the fact that it's not Ivy League? Or is it the amount of colleges she attended?

I don't care how many colleges someone attends - the degree is still the same. Quite frankly, a piece of paper doesn't tell you how intelligent someone is or how effective they will be as a leader. Laughing at the fact that Palin at least earned a college degree is very childish and indeed, it is very unintelligent.

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Palin as educated as Ann Curry

Not ony did Palin attend multiple colleges, she got an irrelevant Journalism degree which has nothing to do with Politics, Economics, Law, Management or anything remotely relevant to the position she was selected for.

Many people get art and dancing degrees every year they are hardly considered "intellectuals"

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More snobbery

I have yet to see anywhere in the Constitution a degree requirement for President, or what the degree should be, or where it should come from. 

This "degree requirement" only exists in your snobbery-addled mind. 

My degree is in history, Doubtless I have been disqualified from the White House in your snobby little world. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Not according to some Conspiros

Some Conspiros actually claim His Majesty The Shahinshah isn't qualified by the strictest Constitutional measures. 

By the way, how is a CEO the best qualified to be President?  Just curious. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

I never said it was the best

But economic freedom is more important than anything else (even if people do not realize it) and being a CEO means you have more of an understanding of this than someone who has no private sector experience.

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You mean like Perot?

You mean like Perot?

Pop, you don't have to be a CEO to understand the importance of capitalism.  Trying to claim that being a CEO is the most important qualification for POTUS or VP is like claiming that being a smoker is the most important qualification for a Fire Chief or Fire Fighter, it's disingenuous.

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Understanding Economics

Perot was a good choice. I never claimed being a CEO is the most important thing but running a successful business is more important than being a politician. Overall understanding economics is the most important thing and Palin is an economic illiterate.

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Pop Tech - I'm Missing Your Point

I see a lot of quotes and poll numbers, but very little analysis or context. If you're trying to make a point that she's unqualified for the presidency in 2012, I think you've not only failed to make that point, but you've cast yourself as a petty, pseudo-political hack. I don't say that to attack your character - I don't know you - but that's how you're coming across in this forum.

And I think it's intellectually dishonest to degrade the position of governor for any state, no matter the population. But Alaska is certainly not inconsequential if that was the point you were attempting to make.

Furthermore, many of the people you quoted were the very same people that thought John McCain was the best candidate to combat the surging left. We all know that they were hopelessly misinformed and incorrect. You also need to recognize the sources for nearly all of your polls for what they are - and realize too that most of the public is ignorant and misguided. Just look at who they elected.

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On he who vomits bibs and calls it analysis and research

DJ, this is because all PopTech does is vomit bibs.  He makes tons of references but as you so adroitly point out, he does next to no analysis. 

Quite simply, if I did what in academia what PopTech does here on this forum and elsewhere, they'd be too busy laughing at me and showing me the door to shoot me.   

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I do extensive analysis

But I don't make Palin fanboy excuses like you would. I did quite well in academia with all my papers.

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You are so f*****g weak

For one who has done so well in academia with all your papers, as you say, you fail miserably at:

Reading.  Note that I have stated that as of now, I am on the fence on Palin and all others until 2012.  We have THREE FRIGGIN YEARS until TX primaries.  Your accusing me of being a "Palin fanboy" only makes you look like a bigger and bigger idiot, and an illiterate one at that. 

Source evaluation.

Critical thinking and analysis.

I would accuse you of plagiarism but you at least credit the works of others.   

You are, however, supremely talented at vomiting bibs, running smack (that you can't back, by the way), and making smartass comments to defend "your" points. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

I never failed

I've already evaluated and analyzed it. Which is why I source it. I've backed up everything I have said. Your repetition of nonsense is still nonsense.

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Still unbelievably weak

Indeed you have.  You have never told us what YOU think, and what specifically on those websites you so repeatedly assure us back your claims.

Again, when I turn in my research projects at the end of this semester, I am not going to pile the books, journals, and primary sources on the desk, make a thesis statement, and demand he/she look them all up, and then leave.  That is, if I want to remain in the program. 

Your vomiting of bibs is still the vomiting of bibs.  And just whining that it is "nonsense" doesn't make it so: it's just you being what you typically are: lazy. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Yes I have

I have told you, she is unqualified and I have overwhelmingly supported that position.

I am happy you have figured out this is not a research paper.

Providing overwhelming sources supporting my position is devastating, why do you think you are here desparately trying to attack me.

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Overwhelmingly supported? No, obsessively reported.

"I have told you, she is unqualified and I have overwhelmingly supported that position."

Overwhelmingly supported?  No, you've obsessively reported your postion.

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of Citizens in the several States.

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Yes Overwhelmingly

Unlike your irrelevant ranting I have fully supported my position with facts and sources.

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Pop, I'm not ranting

Pop, I'm not ranting, YOU ARE!  You do this every time Palin's name is mentioned.  Why?

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Nope

I don't, I respond to the topic of threads or comments related to it.

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  Basically PopTech has

 

Basically PopTech has turned into a troll.  It's as simple as that.

He never answers or defends his so called "position", all he does is post links and disrupts threads.

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