Whoever I was discussing Dawkins God Delusion vs. Crean's God is no Delusion I told you I would read Crean's rebuttal. Well, I did.
Here is the breakdown and you probably won't like it:
Dawkins arguments are pretty strong and mostly based on observable data. However, Crean does make some very stong points. Winner: Tie!
I was an agnostic going in and am still one coming out! (I said you wouldn't like it because I didn't have some "epiphany" after reading either book).
I took the time to read your recommendation and am glad I did. Will you do me the same favor? If so, I want you to read "Blowback" by chalmers Johnson.
If you are like the other pro-war folks here, it may help sway your opinion or at least have a new outlook on the subject (the one that Dr. Paul advocates).
Let me know if your willing.
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February 14, 2008 - 19:38 ET by ThoughtPolicebump...where are you?
ThoughtPolice, I will read
February 20, 2008 - 15:14 ET by futbolisgreat1ThoughtPolice, I will read your recommended book. I am glad that you were open minded enough to read Crean's book.
If nothing else Crean's book convinced you that us Christians (Roman Catholic) myself, don't only base our belief of God in blind Faith and the Bible.
Good, I think you'll enjoy
February 20, 2008 - 16:10 ET by ThoughtPoliceGood, I think you'll enjoy the book. It is a bit dry as most history is, but entertaining and informative none the less. You will definitely come out of it having at least a somewhat different opinion about the current war on terror.
I never thought Religious people follow religion on blind faith alone, but rather that even the facts that they have were simply wrong or made up. In other words, since the beginning of time humans have lied, cheated, misconceived, stolen, hustled, and swindled their fellow man for their own gain. I see religion as being no different, at least its origins.
Have you seen zeitgeist? It is broken down into 3 parts: Religion, 9/11, and banking. Yes, tying in 9/11 and banking to religion might not make a lot of sense, but you have to watch it!
http://video.google....
Check it out if you have time! At least watch the first part.