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Sat, 02/16/2008 - 6:55pm
Dee Bunk
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Some people don’t care what’s best for children. I do. If you do then respond to this issue in terms of what’s best for children. If you don’t then say that you don’t care what’s best for children – don’t tell me I’m faking my concern – especially if you don’t even have children! That is completely rude and ignorant.

This is a thread that continues a very heated discussion between Jason Fitzfong and myself and we may all be too aggravated with each other to continue, but since Jason finally respectfully addressed my points I wanted to respond here where one of them could respond without being reduced to a single column if they wanted

I want to make it clear that I don’t care if people disagree with me on this issue but if they disagree with me based on labeling me as some type of homophobe or someone who doesn’t care about Gay people then I take great umbrage. If I had to guess I would say that Fitzfong, and Jason are probably around 10 years younger than I am. They have grown up with many more gay people being “out”. When I was in high school, NO ONE, not one person, was openly gay. I grew up in a large suburb, not a small town. I stuck up for people accused of being gay way before it was popular to do so. So when I said to Jason and Fitzfong that I was probably more tolerant than them, it’s because I’m as tolerant as a person my age or younger can be about it. You can be equally tolerant but you can’t be more tolerant me. Someone who is my age or older and stood up for Gay people could possibly be more tolerant because I didn't face any institutional backlash for sticking up for Gay people where they may have. If you are younger than me, there is no way to know if you are as tolerant as I because you haven’t been tested. It’s Cool now to stick up for Gay people so if you stick up for them you could be just trying to fit in – there is no way of knowing.

When people can only argue from the stance that the other doesn’t respect Gay people, and ignore and won’t address their actual points, then I’d say it’s more likely that they are worried about being “cool” and fitting in and afraid of being called a homophobe.

Unlike most supposedly tolerant people, I respect both sides. I will stand up for either side on the issue depending how it’s framed. I’m tolerant of Christians, Muslims, Hindi’s and any other religious opinions on Gay sex and Gay marriage. I’m not tolerant of individual religious beliefs that Gay people should be shunned or murdered or that Gay activity should be outlawed., but the large majority of religious people don’t believe that. They have every right to believe that it’s not consistent with their spirituality and teach their followers to abstain from it just like they teach their followers to abstain from pre-marital sex and many other things.

My Opinions on Gay Marriage, Civil Unions and Gay Adoption have absolutely nothing to do with Gay people and everything to do with the Children. Children are innocent and deserve and need societal protections, adults don’t. I don't support Gay marriage, I do support Civil Unions and I support Gay adoption for children who don't have a Male/female couple possiblity. All three postions are consistent with putting the children first. This is just background info and I’ll post specific points as I have time. If anyone wants to post his or her own points feel free.

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