Who is the Worse?

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I have a great difficulty understanding how people can accept lies and distortions about people that they here on television as the truth. The recent situation with Bill O. and the ongoing one with Rush L. is a great illustration of this ridiculousness. Why they do not bother  to either listen to  them on the radio, watch them on t.v. or check their web sites for validity is unfathomable to me. I really do not know if the people that tell the lies or the ones that believe them are the worse people.


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I really wish there was a

I really wish there was a way to confront the MSM live - ask them in detail why they always lie 

A service of the new NB respect police

Lies

They would call you a liar for saying that they lied!

They really believe in the

They really believe in the strategy of ...

Repeat a lie often enough....you (they) will believe it.

Leftist/communist agenda. 

*cough* *WMD* *cough*

*cough*

*WMD*

*cough*

Leon -This is called a "Bxxch Slap" *cough* *cough* to you too!

  1. Ah ha! The UN says the WMD was NOT degraded See Page 30: United Nations - UN document S/2003/580 of 30 May 2003
  2. Anthrax: CNN - Laurie Mylroie: Is Iraq involved with U.S. terror attacks?
  3. Chemical Weapons: Foxnews - Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq
  4. Chemical Weapons: DoD - Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says
  5. Chemical Weapons: Washington Post - Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered
  6. Cyanide: Free Republic - Request For 500 KG Of SODIUM CYANIDE A Precursor For A Chemical Weapon (Translation)
  7. Cyclosarin: BBC - Troops 'foil Iraq nerve gas bid'
  8. Mobile Chem Labs: CNN - U.S.: Mobile labs found in Iraq
  9. Mobile Chem Labs: CNN - Second suspected mobile weapons lab found in Iraq
  10. Mobile Chem Labs: Free Republic - Plan To Produce Mobile Laboratories (Translation)
  11. Mustard Gas, Sarin, and Tabun: United NationsUnresolved Disarmament Issues
  12. Mustard Gas, Sarin, and Tabun: Free Republic - 2003 UN Report: Iraq Sulfur Mustard Gas Chemical Weapons Have High Quality After 12 years of Storage
  13. Mustard Gas, and Sarin: Foxnews - Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq
  14. Mustard Gas, and Sarin: CNN - Gas shell findings a concern for Iraq arms inspector
  15. Nuclear Bomb: CNN - Defector: Iraq could have nukes by 2005
  16. Nuclear Bomb: Daily Telegraph - UN inspectors uncover proof of Saddam's nuclear bomb plans
  17. Nuclear Bomb: National Review - Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program
  18. Fixed Link! Nuclear Bomb:New York TimesSaddam was 1 year away from building nuclear bomb
  19. Nuclear Bomb: Free Republic - Saddam Met with his Nuclear Group in 2002 (Translation)
  20. Nuclear Bomb: Free Republic - Secret Nuclear Project (Translation)
  21. Nuclear Bomb: MSNBC - Interview with a Bombmaker: Saddam Hussein’s former atomic-bomb developer says Iraq is on course to gain ‘full nuclear status’
  22. Radiation Device: Free Republic - Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device (Translation)
  23. Sarin: MSNBC - Bomb said to hold deadly sarin gas explodes in Iraq
  24. Sarin: CBS News - Iraq Sarin Find Worries U.S.
  25. Unexamined Bunkers: NY Sun - Ex-Officer Spurned on WMD Claim
  26. Uranium: Newsmax - The Uranium Joe Wilson Didn't Mention
  27. Uranium: Newsmax - Tapes: Saddam Hussein Had Secret Uranium Enrichment Program
  28. Uranium: Free Republic - Procurement of 50000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT.
  29. Uranium: Washington Post - U.S. Faulted for Leaving Tons of Uranium in Iraq
  30. Uranium: USA Today - U.S. transferred uranium from Iraq without U.N. authorization
  31. Various WMD: WorldNet Daily - Saddam's WMD have been found
  32. Various WMD: CIA - DCI Special Advisor Report on Iraq's WMD
  33. WMD moved out of Iraq: MSNBC - Officials: Terrorist attacks in Jordan averted
  34. WMD moved out of Iraq: WorldNet Daily - New evidence: Saddam's WMD in Lebanon
  35. WMD moved out of Iraq: NY Sun - Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says
  36. WMD moved out of Iraq: The Sunday Telegraph - Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief
  37. WMD moved out of Iraq: Newsmax - Iraqi General: Syria Gave Al-Qaida Saddam's WMDs WMD hidden in Syria
  38. WMD moved out of Iraq: WorldNet Daily - Surprise, surprise! Saddam had WMDs after all
  39. WMD moved out of Iraq: WorldNet Daily - Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
  40. WMD moved out of Iraq: Free Republic - Document: Iraqi Dissident Talks About WMD Moved to Syria (Translation)
  41. Chemical Material: Free Republic - Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)
  42. Chemical Platoon: Free Republic - Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active (Translation)
  43. Chemical Suits/Gear: CNN - UK: Chemical suits found in Iraq
  44. Chemical Suits/Gear: Free Republic - Chemical Gear for The Chemical Group (Translation)

Free... BINGO! I just

Free...

BINGO!

I just saw little Leon's post....

Good reply there you gave him.

BT - Thank You

(blush)

Aw shucks. ;-)

That's a whole lot of cut

That's a whole lot of cut and paste for some heresay/gossip/rumor.

Nobody believes Iraq had WMD.  Not even the Bush Admin.

But you're certainly working hard to prove BT's original post.

 

Hi Leon... Bye Leon.

Hi Leon...

Bye Leon.

AH BT, My second favorite

AH BT,

My second favorite unemployed NB.

How are you?

Still living in Canada...

Still living in Canada... hater.

You are so obvious to some of us here that have been here for awhile little one.

LMAO

BT - You're second on his

BT - You're second on his list? A place of honor! ;-)

Free... Yeah miracle I'm

Free...

Yeah miracle I'm second...

I think RJ or RtS who calls him out all the time too are tied for 1st! I think MM is in the running too... 

Too danged funny, at least he gives comic relief every now and then....lol.

Oh, I'm definitely first, BT

I bother Leon so much he's created some kind of sweaty fantasy (ewwww) about me.   ;^>

 

"Harry Reid is a complete buffoon."  -Lou Dobbs

I think your continual use

I think your continual use of facts drive Leon crazy.

Please keep up the good work! ;-)

Ewwww.... Oh No...not

Ewwww....

Oh No...not again RJ!

Those fantasies of his are getting out of control for the howler... eh?

LOL...

FS, Second on my list of

FS,

Second on my list of UNEMPLOYED newsbusters.  It's a very important distinction b/c as we all know, if you don't have a job your opinion ain't worth much.

Here's Leon's top 3 favorite UNEMPLOYED newsbusters

1)  RJ
2)  BT
3)  MM

Three Cheers for sitting around all day!!!  Eternal vacation must be sweet!

I protest!! I am only

I protest!!

I am only number 3? What an insult! ...harrumphh!

Oh wtf, You'll always be top turd in my book Leon!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Oh Mighty One... Awww

Oh Mighty One...

Awww come on now....Third place ain't nothing to stomp your feet about ya know.  

LMAO...

MM, at least you made the

MM, at least you made the list.  Simple and plain.

v

"At least I am a guy and not desperately trying to be one." Leon

Ha, MM!

I didn't make the list at all! 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Y'all

I think Leon was just upset that I expossed him for being a hypocrite and taking this picture of Leon and his boyfriend. At least I'm in good company :-)

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Which one is Leon?

v

dunno

Is there more than one person in that picture? omg there is!

 

(this is the second time today I have used this bit, please don't delete it again "powers that be".)

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Mighty... OMG!

Mighty...

OMG!

MIghty

You've exposed Leon's fat phobia.

Thanks....friend.  I needed the laugh today. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

I Guess Leon Doesn't Trust CNN, The BBC, New York Times

Nobody believes Iraq had WMD.

Yeah, CNN, The BBC, New York Times . . . I guess you think they're all lying?

Now - time to take my own advice:

SIMPLE & PLAIN

Leon, "What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD"

What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD

JANUARY  30, 2004   |   Printable Version

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
   - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
   - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
   - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
   - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
   - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
   - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
   - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
   - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
   - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
   - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
   - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
   - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
   - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
   - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
   - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
   - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
   - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source

v

Men (Leon) stumble(s) over the truth from time to time, but most(ly) pick(s) themselves(himself) up and hurry(ies) off as if nothing happened. -Winston Churchill.  (v)

Jerry Mack.....

Jerry Mack....says 

"I have a great difficulty understanding how people can accept lies" 

See Leon's post here, where he accepts the MSM lies that WMD's don't exist.......Or the War for Oil "guess"...which is not a lie as much as it is a BDS. 

 

'WMD's are not found

' is a Political talking point...used by Leonitsky and others, and echo'ed by the MSM.  

People want Bush to be dumb, they demand that Bush is wrong about the War, they imagine other reasons for the IraqWar in spite of 9/11 pictures, and they build a "construct" within which "Emotion" rules all.

You start with the strongest emotion"War is bad" and out of this very strong emotion, one progresses to Bush is bad, Soldiers are getting Killed, and now we have the KIDs are going without medical care, and suddenly you have a bullet proof emotional World.....that can withstand ANY and ALL logical attacks....

BUT it will NOT stand up to the final emotional construct eliminator list........

The Iraq War is over,

BUSH WON the War,

Osama is Dead,

The troops are coming home,

Hillary lost the Election...

------------------------------------------

Leon and friends will need Therapy as this list becomes fact....or they will have to resort to the "Moon Landing was Fake" construct of their next Emotional Construct.

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

I believe Leon may be a narcissist.

I believe Leon may be a narcissist.

He enjoys the fight, maybe just to see his name "in lights".  If not passing on the "lib talking points", he can be found trashing the fat, the Bible-thumpers, and homeschoolers.

I have taken it upon myself to follow the age-old advice concerning Leon:

 4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly,
       or you will be like him yourself.

 5 Answer a fool according to his folly,
       or he will be wise in his own eyes.
 Proverbs 26

Today. concerning WMD, verse 5 was appropriate.

v

 

You are uninformed Leon

Everyone thought he had them including the people who voted against the resolution at the U.N. The first one to take us down that path was Clinton. If intelligence was manipulated it came from the Clinton administration and Bush was as much a victim as the rest of us.

Now personally, I did believe Clinton and don't blame him for them not being there. It's certainly possible that they could have been moved. If you want to blame Clinton, go ahead.

vrwc...and Dee, Hear!

vrwc...and Dee,

Hear! Hear!

It sickens me that they

It sickens me that they often include audio and transcripts with their lies.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

 

Complete audio and transcripts...

...or just their edited versions out of context?

Actually, if you check out

Actually, if you check out Media Matters, you'll see that it was Limbaugh that was passing off edited clips and transcripts as complete.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

 

What fascinates me...

...is you actually rely on Media Matters for your "accurate observation." wow.

I'm just as fascinated that

I'm just as fascinated that you would take Rush's word and not bother to seek out another source.

This situation is very similar to John Kerry's "get stuck in Iraq" comment.  In both cases there was a poor choice of words and horrible timing.  You know what Kerry meant and I know what Rush meant.  And it sure wasn't what the media portrayed it to be.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

 

Which Wing

W.W. I can see that you do not agree with my choice of  Rush. Whose name would you use in his place as having had distortions and half-truths told about them?

In truth, I don't disagree

In truth, I don't disagree with you entirely. I'm not with Media Matters on the Rush story. I think it's very likely his comment was misconstrued, due primarily to poor timing on his part. BUT, it is true that he released an edited transcript and claimed it was unedited. That cost him some credibility on the issue. Wouldn't you agree?

I don't know what to say on the Bill O situation. Spin all he wants, he sounded like a complete ass in the Sylvia's story.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

 

Not about Rush or Bill

 Which Wing : I do not want to rehash Rush and Bill here. The point that I was trying to make was that people blindly except what they here as the truth without using all the information available to them.

If you want to start a forum subject on what you mentioned about agreeing or disagreeing on their credibility  I will participate.

My mistake, I misunderstood,

My mistake, I misunderstood, and that doesn't sound like a fun forum topic to me. Anyway, I guess we were in agreement from the start. :)

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

 

Democrats are the Big Lie

You make a good point. Democrats must laugh their fat rich asses off in private about how stupid the masses are. Of course that only reinforces their Marxist conviction that people are to be dominated, oppressed and slaughtered like barnyard animals.

What you wrote about lies the media perpetrates over the false O'Reilly and Limbaugh stories is the case for most of what the Democrats do and say. It's no coincidence that Jesse Jackson, Hillary and Obama, Dick "Turban" Durbin all come from Chicago, the land of gangsters like Al Capone.

Chicago is also the city that stole the election from Nixon and the American public the first time (in 1960). The second time was Watergate, another situation of exaggerated claims and Democratic hate disguised as the search for truth and justice, like the Orwellian situations you describe about O'Reilly and Limbaugh.

I hate to put it this

I hate to put it this simply, but there are easy explanations why these attacks are occuring.

First, people are lazy. They take what they hear on the news, tune out after the sensationalist headline or opening statement, and go back to their (probably) boring little lives.

Second, as is human nature, they listen for what they agree with (or agrees with them) and tune out the rest.

Lastly, most people only use one source for their information. It takes far too much work to go to other sources and do some verification.

 As long as the media and the politicians (along with their supporting groups - like Media Matters and Kos) continue to get away with these attacks, they will not only continue to do so, they will increase them. They are acting exactly like the spoiled vicious little children they truly are. And just like children, every now and then, they need a good smack to set them straight. Unfortunately, no one's doing any smacking... 

 

 

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