i'm not to worried for ron - but I'm a pretty forgiving fundie too:)

again I don't think it's going to kill ron - but he really needs to stay away from these kinds of "anti-Christian" rumors and accusations...

he doesn't even need to actually say this stuff...

just the rumor mill accusations can do alot of damage - in which case all he can do is vehemently deny it and try to beat it back down - not fair I know but its the nature of the political beast...

Whichwing I read your list and I'd have to say that several apply to the US - but who made this list? Sounds like a liberal to me...

Here's my take on it...

 Is this a conservative phenonemon? I see liberals plastering their "flags" and mottos all over their cars, and they own the popular music industry - Dixie Chicks et al are celebrated...

Libs have no sympathy for human rights regarding Christian or conservative persecution here or abroad, also no concern for the right to life of unborn children...

The scapegoat enemy, according to libs, is the radical religious right (a minority) and/or the "neocons," white men in general as well...

This I grant you tends conservative in the US - my question is does this automatically equate to fascism? Military service is mandatory and celebrated in several passive countries...

The liberal feminists are incredibly sexist. I have worked for several institutions managed and dominated by women. We have several women running our governments right now. Rice runs the state department. Michigan has a female governor. As far as gender roles the left is just as rigid about ambiguity as the right is about tradition, opposition to abortion opposes the worst holocaust in history, anti-gay policy simply mirrors anti-ped policy - which libs also universally oppose...

This is NB's niche - and it's the left that owns the media in this country, the government has virtually no control over content other than a few swear words - and also the recent supression of conservative ads just prior to elections, smoking ads are banned by fascist libs as well - there has been more MSM censorship of the right then the left as undeniably archived here by NB

Libs seem just as obsessed about US security - from their point of view - they fear the demise of their liberal America that sprang up out of the 60's...as a radical righty I do not fear the demise of America - our "national security" lies in the kingdom of Heaven...

Libs are constantly justifying social government policy to me as a Christian value, they have also used religion and religious leaders to attack so-called "US torture" as well as supporting radical leftwing environmental policy and other liberal government efforts, "hate" crimes (against libs only) are outlawed, most PC policy is pro-liberal... 

There is plenty of fiercly protected lib industry out there - some of our biggest industries - including the entertainment industry, pro-sports, also unions (yes they are a form of "corporate power" as well), even public schools and universities are run in corporate manner by libs with products and profits - universities make tons of money from research patents, college sports championships, etc - and viciously protected by libs...

10. Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

Unions (who are 99% Democrat-controlled) have been kicking ass here for decades - while corporations are heavily suppressed via massive government regulation and taxes... 

I've seen plenty of disdain from the left for Christian and conservative art and music - find me just one major modern art museum in the entire US featuring this kind of work, or art schools teaching this kind of art - if you can...

Liberal obsession with crime and punishment: corporate corruption, "separation of church and state," environmental laws, protection of abortion clinics...

Again check out the entertainment industry and schools - shaping the vast majority of American's thoughts and opinions - all predominantly LIBERAL cronies - some even routinely from the same damn FAMILIES...

Kennedy was voted in by how many deceased voters from Chicago? The libs wrote the book on election fraud a long time ago - but it's barely a blip on the conservative election radar screen...

IMHO when fascism comes to america it will be wearing a Dixie Chicks or che guivera t-shirt...

 We have pundits making the case for torture  And the same people who constantly whine that the United States engages in torture are the same ones who turned their heads and shrugged at the Hanoi Hilton.  You should be more thankful.  Sixty+ years ago, there would be no Gitmo.  They would all be dead, shot as unlawful enemy combatants.

Besides, WhichWhine, if we put them all up in the Waldorf Astoria, and completely pamper them as all of its guests are, you'd still bitch it is torture.  If these guys are so harmless, why don't you adopt one or two to live with you?  Perhaps if you gave them a hug once a day, at minimum, they'll ALL be our best friends!

But, as long as people with your radical view of America and the world don't become the majority, I think we will be alright.  Hmmm...radical view of America and the world...um, where have you been the last 60+ years?  I realize that when it comes to history, you are an idiot, but why do you insist on constantly making it obvious?

And if we aren't able to help ourselves, at least we were able to help Israel.  You clearly grapple with literacy as well. By supporting Israel - and our other allies - we DO help ourselves.  As Kennedy once said (something to this effect), when we protect freedom in Berlin, we protect freedom in London and New York as well. 

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.