For the edification of the lair Free Stinker


LA County, California, Paris Hilton.

http://www.california-drunkdriving.org/laws.html

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/lis/dui/felony.htm

California

Vehicle Code §§23152, 23550, & 40000.15

non-injury DUI offenses are generally misdemeanors, a 4th or subsequent offense is a felony if offender is sentenced to incarceration in a state prison

http://dui.findlaw.com/articles/1448.html

ANSWER:

A first-time DUI, (or, in some states, "DWI" -- short for "driving while intoxicated") is normally charged as a misdemeanor, not a felony. But if someone was injured as a result of the drunken driving, some states will raise the charge to a felony -- and if the victim dies, some of these states will charge the driver with reckless homicide.

Except if it's Ted Kennedy.

Legal papers at findlaw concrning Hilton:

http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/ent/cahilton92606cmp.html

[ On May 4, 2007, a judge sentenced Hilton to 45 days in jail for violating the terms of her probation.]

Felonies usually result in a sentence of 1 year or more.

It's not hard for people who aren't hellbent on LYING, to figure out.

 

 

 

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Scooter LIbby IS a convicted felon, Paris Hilton is NOT

A unanimous federal jury today found former Cheney Chief of Staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby guilty of four of the five felonies for which he was indicted.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/03/06/libby/index_np.html

I know, it hurts to be an insane right wing LIAR, but boy oh brother, you'll keep lying till the day you die.

 Hey, maybe Libby will get the pardon, and get his record cleared, Hilton tried with Arnold, but as of yet it didn't work.

 Nonetheless, the rabid right insane gawkers screaming Hilton took up their news time, in large number cannot even get her conviction stated in simpleton legal jargon, because they love that "pop culture" crap - whereby they can hurl the invective

    " CONVICTED FELON "

 But, the sad truth is, Libby falls under that category, because it is rather clear to me, republicans foolishly throw their own under the bus in some crazed "belief" in the judicial system they constantly scream is corrupted and filled with biased left wing judges.

 Not too smart of them, but then blind ideology makes them do it, over, and over again, just like the left did in the Duke case.

 Certainly, the OJ Simpson saga has turned many formerly clear headed republicans into raging monsters when it comes to the judicial system, and they go hog wild with fury, and the general public newsheads do as well, with their psychotic voyeurism of the courtrooms.

 Complaining they can't stand it in order to "save face" and "feel like their good little republicans" - they SPEW their incorrect lies afterwards, pretending to be a "know it all".

  I think it's just DANDY that conservatives and republicans can lose their minds and go INSANE like a libeal at the drop of a hat. Their emotional immaturity DEMANDS it of them, just like it does of the demolibs.

 Mine demands I *** THEM OUT for their stupidity, while trying to point out the simple facts they blindly deny.

 Oh well, all's well when liars are given hell.

Wow Sport... You still

Wow Sport...

You still got it bad for Paris eh?

LMAO!

She give ya the time of day yet? 

No Free Stinker

still had it bad for me over the issue, and of course he LIED, and has been a big fat CRYBABY, so I had to put him down, like a rabid dog needs to be. He died. I think it's great that so many lying psychos are all over the place nowadays. I mean you guys went INSANE over the Idaho Senator, too. You went crazy over Scott Peterson. OJ is still giving you heart murmurs. You're a freak circus, and if there is one place republicans EXCELL at LYING, it's around the judicial system. I heard you FREAKS SCREAMING "he committed perjury" for years. Well, you never checked the law in that case, either. Judge, Jury, and Sentencer, all rolled up into one psychotic ball of partisan rabid attack dog, peppered with lies, and reeling with stupidity. I think it's great. Now, the libs, and you weirdos, have even gone so far as to INFECT the ENTIRE US MILITARY with it. It's a FREAKS n LAWYERS circus, and all you crazed morons know it, but that damned pride won't let you admit it, or straighten it out. For that matter, you probably all love it, except when Murtha uses it against you. It's just great. You people and your emotional psychotisms. Did you get your little woody for Hilton in the slammer, did you get your little gasbag thrill ? Sure you did, should I pull up your "cheering post? " Whatever. I know who to keep my eye on, and it's pretty much all of you when it comes to this topic, depending upon which motormouth side of the crapville lying set is spewing at the time, you right wing wackos, or the left wing psychos. Apologies to the few I do know who aren't given to their own emotionally partisan insanities. I hope you tell me how utterly ugly Hilton is - like so many of you did already, come on BT, you're losing it. It makes sense when we all talk about Madelline Albright or Helen, or Waxman, or Kennedy's grotesque alcoholic nose and skin issue when it flares up, but it's not real convincing here. Too skinny I can see. Oh yes, and SHRIEKING BRAT BRAT BRAT.... Wow, that was amazing. She had one DUI and blew at the draconian MADD .08 level, just enough... for you new world order freaks to go crazy insane over....because the libs have CONVINCED you, along with the LAUGHABLE FEDERAL TV commercails, that "drunk" drivers ALWAYS get caught, or ALWAYS SLAY innocent others in their crashing destruction eposides. It's an ENTIRE INDUSTRY for you people, also filled with MASSIVE LIES. I really do see why the psycho libs scream you're all Hitlers. I don't say that, but they're crazed wackos in a partisan gyration too, and certainly it makes a lot of sense to many of them. Oh, and then there was that GLARING JEALOUSY of the Two Americas, absolutely FILLED TO RIM all over this website, and your DEMANDS she live her life up to your IMAGINARY STANDARDS - while you "created endless insanities declaring her every vulgar and foul partying freak drug abuser lifer, and every four letter word in the book." You LIED, and LUIED A LOT, and THE LIBS LIED WITH YOU, AND LIED A LOT TOO, YOU ALL LIED TOGETHER. Yes, I'm very proud of the lying psycho freaks all over the USA. Congratulations. Oh, not you, particularly BT, you know generally wherever it fits. Personally, I like Mariah Carey. I know , she's an N word lover it appears, so that blows it for most here, but she actually has talent, an amzing voice. I don't think she's superhot, she's kinda overweight a bit, but if the media fawned over some less than clean "star" I'd choose her. I guess she's not scandalous enough to drive you all into a psychotic frenzy when the press takes up your precious lying anyway time on air.

Sporty Spice

Do you want to trade my "OJ is innocent" t-shirt for your "Robert Blake is innocent" t-shirt?

}}---> Vintage T shirt for sale

My Free Sacco and Vanzetti Tshirt is going on Ebay tomorrow.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

LOL!

LOL!

I don't want either of those shirts.

I consider it possible that Scott Peterson was incorrectly convicted, however.

In between all the raging neocons screaming for blood(wow we got a baby declared a life and cali law changed for this!), though, and the lying media, and the lying pigs caught on the stand, and the lying sack of crap Mark Fuhrman, and the announced proper death spot months ahead of the body discovery all over the world media, who knows.

I thought that was so very special how the law in that state was changed for one prosecution, for the accused, Scott Peterson. That was so heartwarming.

ROFLMAO - PSYCHOS!

 I thought the massive insanity was ever so clear on Greta's show when Fuhrman, the boneheaded fool that he is, sat there front and center, said his gut feeling tells him this guy Scott did it, and proceded, in order to show exactly why Laci was sunk with "concrete shoes"( that were never found sunk after 9 days plus of dredging - but they did turn up another body or two), that he, himself, Mark Fuhrman, made 2 or 3 concrete anchors "in a yellow bucket" for his own little boat, that he poured himself, and that yeah, concrete would be used.

LOL - To the obviously "touched" - when bloviating pigman pours concrete anchors, it means he's - it means he -- uhh... well... has good "gut" insitnct - but when..... the accused is said to have done it ... it PROVES his mafia like kill style, that he is a murderer... of course that is the EXACT inflection and implication, and plenty of idiots fall for it- adults, neocons, conservatives, morons. 

 Yes, plenty of stupid moron cookies, all over the place, in very important and prominent and "convincing" positions. What Mark Fuhrman does all the time, is evidence we have murderers about, convincing, solid, non circumstantial evidence.

 I heard Scottie tapped his toes at public restrooms, too - right now.... boy that's enough to make a raging loon out of any you, except for this particular application, you intend in your imagination, it to be "punishment" - fitting and appropriate - not just "a bad, bad naughty sin sin that needs to be purged" from the party, let's hope big black bubba reams him to Kingdom Come.

 LOL - FREAKS. On the one hand, it's every evil the good Book warned about, on the other hand it is appropriate punishment you desire to be applied to those you deem worthy of it.

 hahahha... now that's so very special.

 

This is great stuff. I'm

This is great stuff. I'm keeping it all for the deposition. 

Because you already have both?

I consider it possible that Scott Peterson was incorrectly convicted, however.

Of course you do.

Can I interest you in a "Michael Jackson is innocent" T-shirt, or a "Ted Kennedy isn't a drunk" T-shirt, or even a "Rosie O'Donnel is thin" T-shirt?

 

 

P.S. - Calling me a Liar is still Slander.

Well you're still a lamer, and you're a slanderer then as well

Well you're still a lamer, and you're a slanderer then as well, according to your own rules, and you're still a moron, in your infantile attack mode, because you couldn't possibly seriously discuss the issue, you know too little about it, as your Hilton wretch more than proved.

You're still stupid enough to reply as you just did, too. It's funny for you, like a retarded lib.

I think you ought to interest yourself in a shirt that says " Next time, before I open my big fat lying slanderous yap, I'll actually check the facts first, before wretching out my attack like a dingleberry propaganda trick that backfired on me, because I was wrong, and admitted it. "

 Now, you play your MORON OJ card, because you're just a LOSER when it comes down to it.

 Why don't you be a man, bide your time, and pray like hell you can catch me in an actual mistake.

 That might be something that would count for you.

 Good for you, until then, you can have your fairy left like imaginary rantings.

 Just to settle your stupid noggin again... like I have to with idiotic libs all the time:

 1. You should have inferred that I believe OJ committed the crime, from my reply, that you copied and pasted, the last word, as well as it's presentation is indicative of that. Perhaps all this time on this site has still left you incapable of ascertaining any less than subtle clues.

 I just wish you'd go away, really. I hope you do, you're just not a capable opponent.

 I do have to say though, I respect you for finally admitting you were wrong.

2. I think Baretta did it, just like OJ, in fact it is more easily acsertained in this case.

3. I'm sure you'd rape MJ just to punish him for what you know he's done.

4. You hate Rosie or Elisabeth more, and how did that change, before and after Elisabeth trounced the fat cow bully offstage, much to all the whiners here amazement (except for me - who had defended her - from the clueless opinionated morons here), and their constant wailing that Hasselbeck is really a weak, stupid, lib(prior of course - to cow getting ejected)... ?

rofl - Oh yeah.

 

 

Sport.... ROFLMAO! Calm

Sport....

ROFLMAO!

Calm down with whatever is ailing ya there....

Miss the meds?

Catch ya later...

 

Gee BT

I guess you didn't read very closely.

Sporty Spice

Nice work.

 

It looks like (brace yourself) . . .

I was mistaken.

Calling me a Liar is still slander, though, regardless of my error.

And calling me a "Lair" is just plain wierd.

Oh good.

Thanks for coming to your senses. Appreciate it.

lair: The habitation of wild animals.

 I don't think it should be strange at all to a spelling nazi. 

Sporty Spice

I may be mistaken, but I'm not a slanderer.

Well you certainly are

You slandered you know who, the one you were mistaken about there feller.

I guess the rules don't apply to you.

Congratulations.

Actually, I was in error

Actually, I was in error and said so when I knew it to be so.

Meanwhile, sice she wasn't convicted of a felony, and therefore isn't a felon, does that mean that being guilty of a misdemeanor makes her a "Mean Miss"?

The logic of the defeated

moron: " Calling me a Liar is still slander...."

moron again: "I may be mistaken, but I'm not a slanderer. "

So let me get this straight, you "made a mistake" and didn't slander Hilton, just like "I'm making a mistake" and am slandering you.

You get to do it, she's not a convicted felon. I get to do it, you're not a liar.

You're not a slanderer, but I am.

 I think you ought to stick your head over the side of the boat, into the water, and blow some bubbles.

Go suck some woodchips.

Sporty Spice

"Ouch. That hurt." -Jon Lovitz

Wow. I'm having flash backs back to Junior High School.

BTW - why do you seeem to know so much about DUI laws?

 

If being convicted of a felony makes you a felon,
does being convicted of a misdemeanor makes you a "Mean
Miss"?

Nice try

 No DUI here, no chance of it for decades. Don't care if you were or not, the point is pointless. People do things and sometimes get caught, lying about the facts known or the outcome is wrong. Making a false argument about something else is wrong too.

Told you to check the facts, you're on the internet. 

Did drink in college - Fridays - we all started in the afternoon at the ritzy bar - quarter or 50 cent beers (can't remember exactly) and free giant tacos.

I'm certainly no innocent, that doesn't mean I should blindly accept lies, or claim someone is always liar(or currently lying) just because they are no innocent either, or because they have a past or a present, or don't. That's what idiot liberals do.

 

Sporty & Stinky...

So this is the Woodshed, huh? My first time in this place.

I still think NB needs to create the "Ventshed"... I'm really not much of a debater or arguer... I just want a place to perverbially (word?) put my head out the window and scream at the top of my lungs, "I'm mad as hell at the entire despicable MSM, and I'm not going to take it anymore!!!!"

MrShy

You can always start your own forum topic in "Off-Topic Discussion" :-)

So then, why not use the

So then, why not use the woodshed, that's what it's for, clown. Also, i'm not sure you meant to call FS a 'lair', next time you post when pissed off, proof read your rant.

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You go to the woodshed and use it, you can see Free Stinker and his lib freaks squealing, and then go to the Bozell link where it all started, and you'll see why.

 I'd prefer not to have some moron make more merry in NB public, I asked Free to go PM, as the rule USED to be... ( my mistake - it has been changed ).

 I guess I think it's STUPID.

This is obviously NEWS to most people here. The lead post, it's NEWS, everyone SCREAMS convicted felon.... how much they hate her, and how they never watched one GD minute of it.

 So, ya know, it's news my friend.

ps - I didn't mean to call him lair , I make typing errors sometimes, and frankly sometimes don't care, but in this case it is was luckily an appropriate error.

 I'm not a 'paid contributor' - I don't plan on writing for money, and am immensely confident in my own spelling capabilities, if you want neat always, go pay for it somewhere.

 I never use a spellchecker, I don't need one. I never use words I can't spell on my own anytime of the day or night. I hope I was perfectly neat for you here, with plenty of grammatical errors you can whine about now, too, homey.

Furthermore, I was right, he was wrong, I knew it, and that ends it. He wanted a big fat fight, he started it in that thread, he played the same kind of game you just played above, and then he begged to move it.

 I'd say both of you should go have your 2x4 tard battle in the woodshed. Go ahead, go have fun there, where you belong.

 

Sporty Spice

I'd prefer not to have some moron make more merry in NB public, I
asked Free to go PM, as the rule USED to be... ( my mistake - it has
been changed ).

You don't see me calling *you* a liar for *your* mistake, do you?

And it all started because I said Bal: 1, SP: 0

But then again (even though I disagree with some of what Bal said) you were losing. He was making his point . . .

Which of course

you never elaborated on, and to this very moment, still haven't. What you believed or didn't.

 Too bad you weren't man enough to explain.

 Instead, being a smart aleck prick was your big goal, as well as playing goody two shoes, to boot, then lying, then making a stink when caught, then not understanding, then raging for two days, and finally admitting your "mistake".  

 We here, still don't know what points you agree with concernnig what balboa said. So GO BLOW.

 I'm sure, you don't get it, just like balboa "doesn't get it". Like I said, it seems to me stupidity is far more prevalent than I hope it to be.

Losing to Bal

Actually my original point was that you were losing to Bal.

You caught on to that just fine. That's the real reason you're so pissed off. Mentioning Paris' time in prison has just been a bonus for me.

Uh yeah

Your orignal point was you think I support Paris Hilton, which is why you've were such a doofus, and still don't have a point, on this, nor the Bozell thread.

 The point actually is you were a liar when it came to Hilton, and now intend to harras me because of your predjudiced stupidity, which was corrected because you couldn't do it for yourself.

 Now you're attempting the oh so lame cries concerning "you must think they're al innocent of everythnig" - like a 3rd grader retard liberal, and perhaps you just want to make more heat after being such a dummy.

 Well, I'm sure you're capable of it, just keep lying and insinuating more things you should be capable of understanding aren't true.

 I had to slap you down again, with your twisted "I didn't slander but you did" failed illogical crap.

 So, you know, you're burning, but what burns me is a conservative or a republican who falls for the same overblown lies the democrats and liberals always pull, but instead seriously tries to pull them in the opposite direction. I don't think it's right when you do it, anymore than when a lib or a resident democrat does it, and I'm more than happy to point it out.

 Too bad. you want to screw around and joke around that's fine, you want to push buttons, at least make sure you aren't full of it again when doing so.

 I don't ever expect someone who so many here have found themselves putting down or lying about (like Paris Hilton) to be respected or liked by anyone here, but then again lying about them isn't needed, is it ?

 On the other hand, when so many decided Hasselbeck, their only hope was a blithering liberal idiot incapable of confronting the hog as they so bravely could, and would if they were on stage, were summarily surprised when one day, with complete honesty, she completely destroyed her, and the cow Rosie scuttled away to nothing.

 In each case, the "unfairness" or lying is what disturbed me, but both opinions on those tow that were targeted and involved have very different expected and understandable outcomes.

 I certainly suspect the supporters here do now more thoroughly support Hasselbeck, and expect no such thing when it comes to Hilton.

 The expection is merely have the decency to be honest about it.

 

  

Sporty Spice, I never saw you appologize to Bal

Sorry, you just gave away that you weren't reading anyting.

I started with Bal: 1, SP: 0 and a few posts later made the Paris comment.

I just recommended that you didn't get distracted by news about her. Never said you were a supporter. I've put the links directly to the comments. You will see the Paris comment approximately 7 messages BELOW the the Bal:1, SP: 0

By the way, I never saw you appologize to Bal for calling him a Liar.

You don't get an apology and neither does bal

because you're both LIARS, and you're still LYING. Here is another of your lies.

"I just recommended that you didn't get distracted by news about her"

 Yes, another SLIMEY little piece of crap lie.

Look, you're just plain screwed, and you keep digging your hole deeper.

 balboa started the responses by whining about the fact that Bozell made a thread about it, and the truth is the thread is VALID despite balboa's protestations, and is there because of the massive left/liberal bias in the contrasting coverage over Imus and Rutgers, and their own Students, IN THE NEW BLEACHERS SECTION, (which were identified - I guess you failed to read the storied links or do any reading outside newsbusters..as in the Rutgers student paper - the Coach's column, and another -etc  ) the Univ. prezz's lettered apology, and all the rest the media ignored.

 You have failed to comment on it, and instead you still claim your whole deal was to " make a comment on who is winning" - so let's have you explain your support for balboa's lying side.

 "It's not news" appears to be your stance.

ROFL - whatever there feller - you keep your good lying buddy balboa and you keep telling me you didn't mean nothing, and you keep "keeping score" with your idiot predjudices and slapstick commentary - and forget the thread lead or the issue of bias, you play referree and scorekeeper - then beg to go to the woodshed like a jackalope.

 WHATEVER idiot.

 Hey, when you want to tellme why Bozell's column is invalid, have at it. I'm all ears, maybe you and babbly can convince me. Or at least have a point that I didn't ADDRESS in responses in that thread, that you failed to counter... completely failed to even really acknowledge... you were cruising then, and you're still cruising...

 So far we know " you don't agree with everything balboa said" - but you've got an internal scorecard that you write up because you're there to "deem who wins" - and you deem the lying idiot who changed his story 3 times and says the bias complaint is invalid - is the winner.

 Good luck with that.

 Good luck.

 You want me change my behavior - but you should change yours, instead. I listed my complaints with balboa's chaging tune, and you don't like my style...

 So you're a little sniper. You sure are good at it, you sure did a fine job.... even your arguments here are exemplary, like the one about slander... how you don't do it, but I do, since it doesn't apply to you.

 Maybe you shoulda cried " I'm an ex-slanderer!" thanks to your help Sports... but you're still a slimey slanderer!

 Yeah, now that, I guess wouldn't be worth contesting anymore.

 

Lair, Lair, Pants of Flair


because you're both LIARS, and you're still LYING. Here is another of your lies.


"I just recommended that you didn't get distracted by news about her"

Yes, another SLIMEY little piece of crap lie.

Sporty Spice, here is a copy of the actually message for all to see:

 

So, what exactly is mySeptember 23, 2007 - 19:47 ET by Free Stinker


So, what exactly is my vested interest?


Do tell. And try not to get distracted by any news coming from convicted felon Paris Hilton.

 

The only mistake in there (and we've been over this already) was that DUI isn't a felony, so that means I was mistaken in calling her a felon.

As far "keeping score", you were doing a poor job of getting your idea across.  And I like how easily Moonbats flip out when I pull that "1 to 0" routine. 

Yes there is the text

And of course all you meant was what you said.

 So you're still a liar and again, and can't admit it, but above you did the same thing with your t-shirt quip and "I'm sure you do" crap.

 You're a slimeball, you started it, you didn't respond when I asked why you thought so 1-0 - making my points below that post, and you still won't.

 You tried your litle game taking balboa's side, you got caught lying, you got caught being stupid, you got caught lying again, and now you want to cry moonbat.

 If you make your scorekeeper opinion again, I'll be glad to assume you're an empty doofus who doesn't care to expand other than "delivering your scorekeeper opinion" .

 I really think you're an empty shell and I'll be watching now just how emtpy you are. I doubt you could be as empty as balboa usually is - I frankly admit it was a surprise to see more than 2 sentences from balboa.

 I suspect you have the same MO. Not that I've ever paid attention to it in your case, but I sure will now.

Sporty Spice

Free Stinker: 1

Sporty Spice: 0

Are you

done yet idiot ?

Go away is good.

Sporty Spice

Free Stinker: 2

Sporty Spice: 0

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I don't want SP to change

I don't want SP to change his behavior; I just want him to try lithium, give lucidity a shot. 

Bal

Bal,

It truly is admirable how forgiving you are. :-)

Ps

The very fact that you decided to bring up Hilton in the manner that you did shows what was really on your mind, from the very first 1-0 or 0-1 post.

 I guess you just cannot comprehend that. You'd rather pretend, and lie about it.

I don't give much of a damn

I don't give much of a damn what your feud is with anyone, if anyone, all i'm saying is, put it where it belongs.

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You already said it Avatar

and you were already corrected. In fact you asked why, and you were told why, but you don't care why.

 Like I said, go play with idiot #2.

 Funny thing is, you're not bossman, and sticking your nose in makes you certainly his equivalent in just how you turned out, and you won't be listened to by me, know that, deep down bubba.

 It would be, sadly obvious, that you have the problem, with me, so to follow your own stupid rule, why didn't you start your complaint in the Woodshed ? Huh, you idiot ?

 Oh, then your idiot whine wouldn't be here, where it doesn't belong, according to you.

 Gee, like I said, go to your woodshed with your stupid cohorts, or better yet, follow your own stupid rule by commenting on the Hilton conviction, right, braindead loser ?

 Oh, that's right, like your other idiot accomplices, your rules don't apply to you.

So, let me get this

So, let me get this straight,

You post a whine article in an area where it doesn't belong.  I call you on it, you get mad and start berating me, calling me hypocritical (i'm not sure why yet), but i'm the braindead loser?  I don't think so, tim.

 BTW, you ARE in the woodshed now, because evidently Mr. Sheffield agreed with my (and probably others') assessment that this doesn't belong in any news forums.

 I don't know what your problem is, but get it fixed.  Being happy in life is so much more rewarding than being a spiteful prick.

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Former Jail-Bird Paris Hilton

In other news, former Jail-bird Paris Hilton hasn't been convicted of drug usage, but she has been accused . . .