Okay...
I have never posted a form topic here...but I do wonder what all of you think about John McCain naming his VP Pick during the sock-puppet...their newest Messiah's world-wind msm tour...
Should he or shouldn't he...and who do you think would be his best choice and why...and for those of you who may hold their nose and vote for him if he picked so and so...would you go ahead and vote for him?
..for those of you you who would vote for him already, why do you think this would be or not be a wise decision and think he should hide his cards...until wiser time...if there is one.
thanks...
Btw...for those of you who may not about any of this...I am going to insert a link here on the thread ..as soon as I get one...when I posted this, I just assumed eveyne knew what I was talking about...
Editor at Large
Comments Policy
Okay...here is the one look
July 22, 2008 - 03:47 ET by bigtimerOkay...here is the one look here that will explain it all to even those you in Rio Linda...
I hope some understand my sarcasm.....
You May Be Right, You May Be Wrong...Don' Try to Change Me... I May be just the Lunatic Your'e looking for...Turn out the lights...Don't try to Change me........and all that good stuff...
I truly am interested in your opinions...
...got to be run..may not be back til Wed or Thurs.
Have a good one one all..
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Depends
July 22, 2008 - 03:59 ET by Cool ArrowNo, I'm not referring to his undergarment. Bwahahaha!
It depends on who he picks.
If it's Romney, it's an OK choice at the wrong time. (Obama conquering the Mideast and all)
If it's Jindal, it's the right choice at the right time. Shocking, fiery, outspoken, smart, proven under fire.
Did I mention I like everything I've seen about Jindal?
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Problem is CA...Jindal
July 22, 2008 - 04:21 ET by bigtimerProblem is CA...
Jindal keep saying no matter what he isn't going to want to be VP or some such...so just forget about it..he is busy being the Gov. which the State needs...blah blah blah...
If you believe that...well, I have beach front property here in MT...
Have you not noticed the tons of shows, Madden the spokesman for Romney from the beginning, going on all the political talking head shows for McCain..somethig is in the air...one way or the other.... It has been rampant the last month or so...
He hasn't been on for no reason, either they are trying to get McCain to pick Romney for VP or this is a plan by McCain/Romney in the know.
We shall see...
Look at this folks..think about it...I remember...of course this is keep in mind this is from the HuffnPuff post/
Btw..it matters not to me personally...I really do think for myself and decide what I want to do.
I know...I can just hear the comments...go ahead...lol.
<edit> I just corrected is from isn't regarding Jindal and his being named or wanting to be VP...sorry about that..
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Romney should know better
July 22, 2008 - 04:24 ET by Cool ArrowRush was referring to a soldier who washed out in boot camp and told some nonsense stories about his experiences.
I guess technically he was a real soldier for a while.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Ca...How would you feel
July 22, 2008 - 04:56 ET by bigtimerCA...
How would you feel if he named Huck for VP?
....Just curious.
I still have somewhat of a memory left here.
I think.
...Hey, it's my story and I'm stickin' to it...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Huckabee
July 22, 2008 - 05:08 ET by Cool ArrowHuck is a good man, but he'd be too much lightning rod for McCain. And face it, the evangelicals are going to hold their noses and vote McCain anyway.
I put Huck about even with Romney as far as adding something powerful to the overall conversation.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
CA/RO... You May Be
July 22, 2008 - 05:12 ET by bigtimerCA/RO...
You May Be right.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Betty Boop
July 22, 2008 - 06:29 ET by bigtimerHey!
Why all the silence out here...doesn't anybody else have an a opinion..
Btw...any of you old enough to appreciate Betty Boop?
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Good Topic BT
July 22, 2008 - 09:37 ET by Dee BunkI think McCain is an idiot to announce his VP while the media are fawning over Obama. Of course they are always fawning over the messiah so no matter when he does it, it won't get half the attention that Obama's pick gets, but still this is the worst time ever.
I don't really care who he picks unless he picks a pro-choice candidate. If he picks a pro-choice candidate then I'll see that as a foreshadowing of his judicial picks and I won't vote for him.
Total agreement.
July 22, 2008 - 18:43 ET by SyriusDB,
It would be idiotic to name a VP at this moment in time. He should wait until the GOP convention to announce his pick. He should float the names out there to see who might have potential. Since social conservatives have been marginalized and discredited, he'll choose someone from the fiscal conservative side. He may placate the radical christian right for some votes yet in the end he knows where the real money and real votes are to be had...Corporate America. Vote for a tax cut to the wealthy and he'll make sure to push for a radical christian right values issue only to see it fail in the Democratic controlled Congress. At least the tax cut might get through...yeah!
Good Luck, John and Godspeed!!!
Syrius
Syrius- what are the radical Christian right values issues
July 22, 2008 - 21:04 ET by Dee Bunkyou speak of? The so called "radical Christian right" doesn't want things pushed, they want things left alone. They don't want judges making law and forcing liberal morality on everyone.
We do agree that now is not the time for a VP pick
Ahhh...left alone...
July 22, 2008 - 21:14 ET by SyriusDee,
I'm with you all the way.
They don't want judges making law and forcing liberal morality on everyone.
The same could be said on the flip side, couldn't it?
As in..."They, as in the radical christian right, do want judges making law and forcing conservative morality on everyone."
It's okay when it's used in this sentence, correct?
Interesting...
Syrius
No Syrius - the opposite can't be said
July 22, 2008 - 21:44 ET by Dee BunkThere are no conservative judges forcing thier morality on us like liberal judges do. Conservative judges don't use Foreign courts, personal morality and made up rights to make decisions. Conservative judges use the Constitution.
Hi Dee... ...getting here
July 22, 2008 - 19:30 ET by bigtimerHi Dee...
...getting here late today...
anyway...I hope he names a conservative...I am so disgusted by the arrogance of the msm and Obama that I will most likely vote for him if he picks a strong conservative...it will kill me, but this silly little dangerous sock-puppet cannot get in....I tried listening to his presser this morning...I finally got some sleep...the presser put me to sleep...his aaaaah's and aaaah's and aaaahs' were enough to put anybody to sleep...let alone you couldn't hear the questions, his arrogance is unbecoming to anyone with a brain.
....and I am putting that nicely.
If he doesn't pick a conservative...I will write in a name...we have to hope to get some conservatives in the House and Senate at least...if they would get in and fight.
to think...three more months to go with this arrogance and the msm filth...plus the debates yet...
Oh wait...the msm and he have already named him Prez...I have never seen anything like this...ever.
...this is the first time I am embarrassed for leftist party world-wide...let alone here...he is not anointed...they had better wake up and smell the nuthatches they are going to end up in when he loses.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Yeah- BT - I'm hanging on by the weakest of threads
July 22, 2008 - 21:11 ET by Dee Bunkand if he picks a pro-choice candidate that would be the end for me. I wouldn't mind either Romney or Huckabee out of the prior Presidential candidates they are both charismatic and socially conservative. I liked Romney much better as a Presidential candidate, but Huckabee would be fine for V.P. If it's not one of those two than I hope it's an African American and/or woman.
→ Good Choice
July 22, 2008 - 21:20 ET by Cool ArrowI seem to remember Romney touting his involvement in sponsoring socialized healthcare in Mass. Brought the out of pocket cost of abortions in Mass. down to a $50 copay.
Wouldn't be an issue, but he brought up his involvement in the implementation of socialized healthcare as a plus in the debates.
Fair game.
with Mc at the top of the
July 22, 2008 - 21:36 ET by TruthMongerwith Mc at the top of the ticket it doesn't really matter who the hell he picks, or when
his wife would make a better prez - I'd vote for her
Too early, IMHO...
July 22, 2008 - 14:04 ET by AmericanEnergistOne thing that the Republican Party needs now is unity. Wait until the convention, work out the details among the 'big tent party' folks and find the most strong conservative you can find.
I'm not too sure that a McCain 2nd term is in the cards, for no single reason, but a more conservative VP would help McCain and him/herself to be at the ready in 2012 or 2016. Romney is a good choice, but he needs to bone up on his conservative street cred.
Just my opinion!
Mike
www.ArmchairEnergist...
actually what the
July 22, 2008 - 21:38 ET by TruthMongeractually what the Republican Party really needs right now is REPUBLICANISM
name his CP first
July 22, 2008 - 19:48 ET by Jack BauerNo he should wait till Nobama names his. I don't see much benefit right now.
Though McCain should name his CP...
that would be his Conservative Principles!
Now Jack.... ....don't go
July 22, 2008 - 19:51 ET by bigtimerNow Jack....
....don't go asking for the impossible!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
McCain's VP choice
July 22, 2008 - 20:02 ET by BlondeI agree, it would be premature and churlish to announce his selection now....and would be seen for the attention-getting (as if McC could get the media to quit slavering over Obama) ploy it is.
As to his pick....I think Mitt would add the economic chops that McCain clearly lacks. And would be a nod to conservatives, well, kind of.
I saw America's mayor the other day, and I really wish he were the candidate instead of McCain. I know he's socially liberal, but I think in the end he'd make a better President than McCain. Having said that, though, I don't think he adds much either way to the ticket.
Bobby Jindal....great choice, but he'd be an idiot to accept. He's the next Barak (from a media POV only, please don't misinterpret that statement). But he's smarter than Barry, and knows he needs more experience. And he's in the catbird seat to get what he needs before he makes the jump to the National stage. In sum, too smart to jump, now.
Personally, I'd like to see Michael Steele. He's acceptable to all of us conservatives. And he'd make an ideal "first black President".
McCain's pick is going to be interesting, regardless of when he does it. He needs (in no particular order) young, dynamic, charismatic, responsible, and experience where it counts (executive).
Now, if we flip this argument and talk about Barry Hussein:
I think he's going to go with a non-Clintonite (good luck with THAT)...buh bye Bill R. He also needs someone with experience and that lovely "gravitas". Someone with national exposure on the dem front, but someone non-controversial. And for the crowning quality...perhaps I should have said the priority quality, one who wouldn't dare trump the Obamamessiah's rock star status. I'm thinking Evan Bayhe. Like that.
Nice forum topic, BT.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Hmmm...
July 22, 2008 - 20:38 ET by SyriusBlonde,
"He needs (in no particular order) young, dynamic, charismatic, responsible, and experience where it counts (executive)."
Pssst...you just described the Dem's POTUS pick!(sarc on)
Now if Barak could pick someone older, static, offensive, irresponsible and inexperienced...hmmm...is Cheney still available?
Syrius
→ No Syrius
July 22, 2008 - 21:09 ET by Cool ArrowBut Robert Byrd is available.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
Oh really, Sy
July 22, 2008 - 21:21 ET by BlondeWould you kindly describe Obambi's "executive" experience?
A community organizer? Guest lecturer?
BTW....your <sarc> toggle doesn't work for me. Sorry.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
→ Bench warmer
July 22, 2008 - 21:25 ET by Cool ArrowDon't forget "pew sitter".
And the last 7 years with Dubya proves my point...
July 22, 2008 - 21:26 ET by SyriusBlonde,
...you don't need it.
Syrius
→ Last 7 years
July 22, 2008 - 21:29 ET by Cool ArrowLast 7 years of Dubya just proves terrorist attacks in America can be prevented.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE
¢¢
July 22, 2008 - 21:37 ET by Free StinkerImagine. Responding to an act of war with war, instead of a subpoena.
Shockingly effective.
"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)
W ran businesses, baseball
July 22, 2008 - 21:40 ET by TruthMongerW ran businesses, baseball teams, the state of Texas
gravitas:)
remember that one?
Obama is like anti-gravity squared
I hope so...
July 22, 2008 - 21:49 ET by SyriusCA,
We all hope for a more peaceful world. We need change in how we conduct ourselves. The terrorists have made us feel less secure as we spend billions on our security of the Homeland. They've made us prisoners in our own land as we try to throw up walls to keep them out as we enclose ourselves within. They produce a video and we lock ourselves up. How much do we spend every time the threat level goes up? What happens if we get attacked after Dubya leaves office? Will you blame the current or past Admin.? Are we maximizing our freedom everyday? Do you feel safer knowing 4000+ Americans died and tens of thousands wounded fighting the terrorists over there than over here? And would you label the Iraqi dead as terrorists? Something to think about...
Syrius
Syrius
Sy...Hell...I wished
July 22, 2008 - 21:24 ET by bigtimerSy...
Hell...I wished Cheney "Help is on the Way" was the one running for President.
...or his wife...she'd do just fine!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The ticker, think of the ticker...
July 22, 2008 - 21:35 ET by SyriusBT,
Cheney's ticker or McCain's age are the obstacles to the Presidency. Yes, I said it. McCain's age will be the main factor in not achieving the Presidency. It's going to be tough to overcome his age. Most of you have said he might not run for a second term. It's true. Once the money starts flowing the other way (which it has), look out.
As for Lynne, she's a tough woman...reminds me of Hill only nastier.
The daughter would have been my pick!
At least, she'd have gotten the Rosie vote!
Syrius
Yeah...I know all about his
July 22, 2008 - 21:40 ET by bigtimerYeah...I know all about his ticker, he seems to be doing just fine...none of us this earth know when our ticker is going to quit ticking....
as far as Lynne goes...she is nasty with class....she sticks it right back to the leftists if they ask for it...ask Blitzer...she made mincemeat out of him...I adore her.
...Class is something Hillary never had or will...she is just plain nasty...to put it nicely.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I saw that too
July 22, 2008 - 21:45 ET by shawn228"as far as Lynne goes...she is nasty with class....she sticks it right
back to the leftists if they ask for it...ask Blitzer...she made
mincemeat out of him...I adore her. "
That is when he blindsided her with nasty questions when she was promoting a book right? Your right, I have to admit she did make mince meat out of him.
Some folks can dish it out but cannot take it
shawn... Yep...that was
July 22, 2008 - 21:47 ET by bigtimershawn...
Yep...that was the one!
Timeless...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I concur with this Mc's
July 22, 2008 - 21:42 ET by TruthMongerI concur with this
Mc's old and decrepit
as if being a RINO ain't bad enough
Helen Thomas could be a good running mate
she would bring some youth and conservatism to the ticket
Don't forget...
July 22, 2008 - 21:52 ET by SyriusTM,
She could use some tips from the Fox girls...not crossing her legs and wearing 6" heels!
Syrius
oh the humanity
July 22, 2008 - 21:56 ET by TruthMongerdude - how can you conjur up these crotch-shot images of HT like that?!?!?!
pull up, pull up - eject - walk towards the light:)!!
Priceless!
July 22, 2008 - 21:59 ET by SyriusTM,
;o) !!!
Syrius
I agree with you Blonde that Guliani would have been the better
July 22, 2008 - 21:16 ET by Dee BunkRhino. I liked him better as a leader and as a person but I'd have been afraid of his SCOTUS picks. I don't want him to be V.P. He'd be good for a the Homeland Security Cabinet Position.
I like your pick of Michael Steele.
Yeah B...I like Steele
July 22, 2008 - 21:21 ET by bigtimerYeah B...I like Steele too...and have said so here and there over time.
Oh well...we will find out with time.
I wished we had something to be excited about this election.
I'm just bummed out tonight.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
McCain naming Liberman?
July 31, 2008 - 15:57 ET by bigtimerThis is the latest I have heard today on Rush that makes me wonder if McCain would really do this, and if he does, how would you vote, would it change your vote, how would you feel about this?
Just curious folks...
Btw...you need to scroll down a ways to see the topic of McCain thinking about Joe Lieberman...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt
July 31, 2008 - 16:14 ET by BlondeInteresting link. No bias there, hmmm....a particularly nice shot at Romney at the end, too.
About your comment, I don't know, and it's really a thought too horrible to contemplate....it would be voting a straight dem ticket.
I posted a bit ago that I think McCain would appoint Joe Lieberman as SecState or somesuch. That would be an interesting confirmation hearing, yes?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Hi B... I also have
July 31, 2008 - 16:23 ET by bigtimerHi B...
I also have always felt he would name him to a cabinet position for sure...I have to wonder if this is just a trial balloon put out here intentionally...
He can't be that stupid as to name him VP can he?
LOL...
In a way though I am serious, the msm and the arrogance of the messiah sock-puppet is starting to make people anger...and go for McCain on the conservative side, not that they like him any better, but they dislike the dems, msm, and his Highness that much more...
...plus, no doubt about it...him changing his position on off-shore drilling, therefore our wallets....(I just heard some of the oil companies finally donated to his campaign in a big way after he changed his position....now that is rich is it not? I am seriously snickering out loud...
Btw...sorry I didn't see your other post, I have been in and out mostly here today.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT McCain & the Hammer
July 31, 2008 - 16:34 ET by BlondeI think McCain has to be hit repeatedly over the head with a hammer before he changes his position...we don't call him McAmnesty for nothing!
You're right, though, it's maddening how the media thinks they can so blatently change the course of American politics.
If McCain does name Lieberman as his VP, I don't think it's due to stupidity, (although admittedly it would be idiotic), I think he'd do it because he feels it would enhance his "maverick" image. Blech.
Why do we always have to vote for the lesser of two weevils (to quote Captain Jack Aubrey, Master and Commander)? Come to think of it, if old Joe is McCain's selection, won't that mean we'll have four weevils to choose from?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
B.... Well, I don't know
July 31, 2008 - 17:02 ET by bigtimerB....
Well, I don't know about the Maverick image getting new status or being refreshed if he did that....what I read though, it is to purposely gain more moderates and dems...so....not surprising, just makes me mad....again.
Like I said though, this may be just thrown out here for a trial balloon, who knows...
One thing about it...we shall find out...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Blonde and BT - I have a different take
August 3, 2008 - 19:06 ET by Dee BunkThis response is way after the fact, but I've been out of town.
I'd actually like it if he picked Lieberman because it would show people that he really is a Democrat. This race is between a liberal and a conservative Democrat. There is no Republican running. If his VP were a Dem, that would hopefully make it so that a Republican could challenge him in his second term during the primary.
I think Lieberman is pro-life also. Picking Lieberman would show the Dems how far left their party has gone. Still there couldn't be two more uncharismatic people. Lieberman is even worse than McCain in terms of charisma.
The whole thing is so depressing. I really can't think of a scenario that would make me happy except for McCain quiting and Romney being chosen at the convention.
Wow Dee.... Now I would
August 3, 2008 - 19:12 ET by bigtimerWow Dee....
Now I would of never thought of that....that at least would give a good conservative to run next a great chance I suppose....
...that Colorado air must of done wonders, kinda' like I can see clearly now, refreshing the mind...
Of course you could of posted this scenario before you left and I may have missed it...lol.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Yeah BT the Colorado air does do wonders
August 3, 2008 - 19:35 ET by Dee Bunkfor me anyway.
I think I asked before here and no one answered but I wonder if there has ever been a time in history where an incumbent President as been challenged by their own party in the primary. Do you know if it's even possible? I hope so because that's the only hope I have left (besides McCain quitting). I'd still rather have 4 yrs of McCain and then 4 yrs of some other Dem that would hopefully be more conservative than Obama (it would be hard for one to be more liberal).
Challenging the incumbent
August 14, 2008 - 21:32 ET by nkviking75In the last three decades, Ronald Reagan almost snatched the nomination away from Gerald Ford at the convention (1976), and Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter, also coming very close to victory (1980). I haven't taken the time to look for previous examples, but I'm sure there are some. If McCain is elected, there may well be a challenge from the conservative wing in 2012.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
3 possible VPs
July 31, 2008 - 16:05 ET by sarcasmoIn the "unrealistic, but it would make me vote for McCain for sure" category is Walter Williams. In the more likely but somewhat less tempting category, Gov. Sanford of South Carolina or maybe Palin of Alaska.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
The reason he's "unrealistic"
August 1, 2008 - 08:51 ET by sarcasmoIs that he's right:
"Both parties and all branches of the federal government have made a
mockery of the checks and balances, separation of powers and the
republican form of government envisioned by the founders. One of the
more disgusting sights for me to is to watch a president, congressman
or federal judge take an oath to uphold and defend the United States
Constitution, when in reality they either hold constitutional
principles in contempt or they are ignorant of those principles."
Nobody wants to admit it, but Prof. Williams is dead-on accurate here, and that's why he won't be selected as VP.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
bt, you should have asked, "Who wants to be the next Walter...
August 5, 2008 - 19:17 ET by R D Helm...Mondale?" :-^)
LOL! Sorry, I just had to get that in there.
We are not going to save this country by being polite to those who are
working tirelessly (and succeeding right handily) at destroying it.
anti-gravitas
August 14, 2008 - 14:23 ET by LionKingI think McCain could choose Joe Lieberman. I would call this pandering to the moderates, but in the end, I think McCain/Lieberman would win in a huge landslide.
Lieberman for VP
August 14, 2008 - 20:02 ET by bigtimerLK...
I heard somewhere today ol' Joe may be thinking of changing party affiliation....soon.
Could be just a rumor, don't know if he can do it now and all that jazz...but it something to think about for some of us out here.
Heck both conventions may be fun in the end after-all...
Ya just never know.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Yeah, BT
August 14, 2008 - 20:18 ET by BlondeAnd Nanny chastized him....calling for him to lose his leadership positions in the Senate. She has to be careful, though, so as not to upset the applecart. What a piece of work this woman is.
The link was on Drudge earlier, but it's down now.
Joe will do what he does, whatever. I respect him as the most honest Democrat in the land...but he's still a Dem. If I wanted a dem in office, I'd vote for one....oh yeah, that's right, I'm going to vote for McAmnesty. Never mind.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
If McCain stuck it in the
August 14, 2008 - 21:24 ET by bigtimerIf McCain stuck it in the eye of us conservatives again....
Man oh man...what a mistake it would be...
Again.
Btw...I started a forum thread about Hill's roll call vote too...just curious to what others would think...everything with her is planned out IMO.
...at the time I put it there, it was slow here...should of waited til later.
The link is above at the bottom of my forum post for anyone interested.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, believe me, McCain hasn't even started sticking it...
August 15, 2008 - 20:24 ET by R D Helm...to us conservatives.
And as for his SCOTUS choices, those will be a let down, too, as a liberal president is not going to nominate conservative judges.
-Dave.
Blonde...
August 15, 2008 - 12:46 ET by LionKingSadly, this election has become more about the lesser of 2 evils. I actually respect Lieberman more because he is a Democrat and he is supposed to be liberal.
I have heard that at least 2 Supreme Court justices will be stepping down during the next term. I trust McCain to do a better job than Barry. Right now, the SCOTUS is TOO important. Remember how close the 2nd Amendment ruling was ... 5-4 to protect our Right to Bear Arms.
Every American should be concerned with the political party (DEMONcrats) that wants to disarm its citizenry. They should ask WHY.
Agreed, LK
August 15, 2008 - 12:50 ET by BlondeWith everything you've posted.
I am so sick of it all...I wish we could have the election tomorrow, but I think B. Hussein needs another two months to show his true colors.
Condi for VP. It's the only choice. Bambi goes down in a landslide, particularly in light of the Cold War heating up again, so to speak.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive