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ATTENTION NEWSBUSTERS
May 6, 2009 - 17:13 ET by choselife3x

ATTENTION NEWSBUSTERS STAFF, MEMBERS AND READERS

Newsbusters has been infiltrated by DKos members pretending to be conservatives. Their names are ‘Syrius’ and ‘CT Patriot’.

Syrius has been registered here as ‘Syrius‘, ‘Ubercon’, ‘Odd Job’,
‘Protocol_9’, ‘Justasec’, annnnnd his psuedo-conservative handles are 
‘dborcshjr68‘, ‘CT Patriot’, and ‘pelicanmarsh’. 

THEY ARE POSING AS CONSERVATIVES TO DAMAGE OUR BRAND TO THE PEOPLE WHO READ THIS SITE.


I happen to know that CTPatriot and Syrius are indeed two separate
people due to the fact that they are BOTH registered at Kos. They both
post here (swapping ID’s) posing as ‘ultra-conservatives’. While you
read their posts, think about WHY they would do all this. Here are the
posts proving that they share accounts. (See my bolds)


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Carry on with your
April 22, 2009 - 10:39 ET by CT Patriot
Carry on with your back-patting now.
choselife3x, I too am an Independent because I am to the right
of Rush Limbaugh, and I make Ann Coulter look like Rachel Maddow. 
I totally understand you words about the GOP not being conservative enough.

**choselife3x
April 30, 2009 - 12:51 ET by pelicanmarsh
Oh no, there has been a supreme misunderstanding here!
You are under the impression I am that person, crap what was their
name...?, um,....syrius!  He goes by sirius on Daily Kos, I went there
myself when I followed a link you had.  You also say he is several
other aliases, and I'm pretty sure you are right about that.  And I
have not corresponded with you via private messages at any time.  I
believe we have commented on similar topics here in the public forum,
but never privately.
Again, I am surely not a troll.  Please ask Blonde, when you get the
chance.  She knows more about who I am than anyone on this site.  I'm
not your troll enemy, believe me.
Thank you though, on a side note, for putting my profile onto the
public forum visible to all.  I have left my email address, as you can
see, for anyone who wishes to fellowship and correspond away from this
site.  ctpatriot47@yahoo.com  And my name is Donald.


**choselife3x
April 30, 2009 - 12:33 ET by pelicanmarsh
I gladly confess to anyone reading that I was here originally under the screen-name of dborschjr68, absolutely.
Under that name, I did copious amounts of research and note-taking as
to who was who, who was liberal, who was conservative, etc.  I even
posted a forum topic regarding this subject.  It wasa very fruitful
venture.

Then, when I felt it was time, I relinquished my dborschjr68 name and returned as pelicanmarsh, as you can easily see.
"Being found out" implies I was here to be a "troll" or trouble-maker, and this is simply not the case.  My core beliefs are to the extreme right of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter combined. 
I have never been banned or flamed or ridiculed publicly on NB.  I was,
however, banned from a certain off-site chat room, which was
unfortunate.  The only criticism I have received for this came to me
via private message, and there it will remain.------------

{I have put his ‘call for revolution’ posts together along with his
racist, violent, inflammatory remarks. Also, I will prove that
‘dborschjr68’ is ‘syrius’.
I knew Syrius was coming back over and over again as a lib, but I
didn’t know he also had sn’s where he posed as a conservative. Now,
HERE is where he made his mistake.  I outed him as ‘Justasec’ last Wednesday night, and he jumped into this thread the next morning to get a little payback.}

HERE IS PELICANMARSH:
http://newsbusters.o...
**QueenMum
April 30, 2009 - 12:11 ET by pelicanmarsh
Yeah, that is kinda creepy
I had wondered who was doing the detective work on this site.
Very, very curious....
reply
Email this page . 

{Why would PELICAN say that?  If pelican were truly a far-righter, he would have had no reason to jump into that thread to talk about ‘detective work’ and be snarky to me. He snarked me, why? He was pissed about the night before.  (And for when I outed him as Protocol_9) I had never
interacted with pelicanmarsh and only once with dborsch, when he tried
to get me to contribute to his info gathering thread. Why would he jump
into the thread with an attitude?}

HERE IS ODD JOB:
Now, now...tit for tat...
March 9, 2009 - 11:17 ET by OddJob
Creepylife,
If you're going to start calling people names...be prepared for them to come down to your level...
Why do you pursue me? Are you a cyber-stalker? Are you neglecting your
husband & children once again to stalk anonymous men on the
internets?!?
It's creepy and might I say...odd!
Odd Job

FURTHER PROOF:
http://newsbusters.o...
**Blonde
April 24, 2009 - 12:52 ET by pelicanmarsh
Neo-con:  It means a new kind of swindle.  It's not a swindle everyone
already knows, eg "old-con", it's new and unique.  It is neo-con.
Thank you, thank you.  I'll be here all week.  Try the veal.


Freedom of Speech is a Constitutional privilege; it is not a license to parade yourself as a wanna-be intellectual jackass.

http://newsbusters.o...

Thank you, please tip your waitstaff.
April 29, 2009 - 19:11 ET by Justasec
Don't worry about the busboys they've been vaccinated according to their papers.
Must be a dittohead, sorry to offend you! I was making a weak joke towards Randi Rhodes.
JustaSec


Again, tip the staff.
April 29, 2009 - 19:34 ET by Justasec
Tough crowd.
You're an angry bunch...Why?
Somebody piss in your cornflakes?
Look the stock market is showing signs of improvement, stimulus money
is going to everyone not just a lucky few, the GOP has been
marginalized by the likes of Rush, Steele, Hannity, Beck and Family Guy
Owner Rupert Murdoch. The RINO's are leaving the GOP in droves, the
lunatic fringe are going back to their hide aways and stocking up on
can goods and guns...What's the problem?
JustaSec

{HERE IS A COPY OF THE PM I RECEIVED FROM JUSTASEC ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT.}

Nice try, Plugs. Must sting to
get spotted so quickly. Getting banned 4 times has got to hurt, too.
You going to plagiarize some more logic and reason for us?

Actually, it's more like 6 times. The fact is I've done very well
with a bunch of other names that still exist. I give em out to the
other libs on this site for them to vent. CL3x, Who's your "buddy"?
I've enjoyed throwing away a bunch of names and personas. Twisting you
and the rest has been FUN. Schadenfreude. Look it up. Search the site.
I've deposited all types of wonderful gems. One thing, in all
seriousness, after emailing pi314, he said you were a nice woman. I
refrained from attacking you knowing full well you'd attack me. Listen
anytime you want to engage in an enlightening conversation, get off
this site, it'll make your brain rot. Ta-ta.
Syrius
P.S. I'm sure my secret will not be a secret anymore.


{I have a screen capture of this PM Justasec sent me admitting he is
Syrius. Unfortunately, pictures cannot be loaded into comments on this
site. If you want to see all my information in it's original format, PM
me and I will send you the file.}

{NOW BACK TO THE NEXT MORNING WITH PELICANMARSH:}

~Someone is still smarting
April 30, 2009 - 12:14 ET by choselife3x
From being found out, I see. Plugs.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

http://newsbusters.o...

(CHECK OUT THIS THREAD)


**choselife3x
April 30, 2009 - 12:33 ET by pelicanmarsh
I gladly confess to anyone reading that I was here originally under the screen-name of dborschjr68, absolutely.
Under
that name, I did copious amounts of research and note-taking as to who
was who, who was liberal, who was conservative, etc.  I even posted a
forum topic regarding this subject.  It wasa very fruitful venture.

Then, when I felt it was time, I relinquished my dborschjr68 name and returned as pelicanmarsh, as you can easily see.
"Being found out" implies I was here to be a "troll" or trouble-maker,
and this is simply not the case.  My core beliefs are to the extreme
right of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter combined.  I have never been
banned or flamed or ridiculed publicly on NB.  I was, however, banned
from a certain off-site chat room, which was unfortunate.  The only
criticism I have received for this came to me via private message, and
there it will remain.
While I await the arrival of my firstborn (anyday now, I hope!), I have
busied myself coming here to NB to enjoy the amusing goings-on of this
small slice of the Internet.
In truth I am currently smiling, as I now have complete confirmation
that there has been some drama behind-the-scenes regarding my multiple
identity experiment. 

So far I have been right about every observation I have made on my notes.
(sigh)...either way, even after writing this attempt to clarify faulty
second-hand info you have been given, I fear it will be construed as
some kind of "troll" manuever or tactic.  How I wish it would not be
so.  Nothing I have written here was written with snarky or sarcastic
intent.

**sherylsims
April 30, 2009 - 13:10 ET by pelicanmarsh
I think I see what needs to happen here.
I fully extend myself to both you and choselife3x to write me at my
email address of ctpatriot47@yahoo.com.  My name is Donald.  (But I'm
sure you already read that!) 
I believe once we are able to correspond with one another, every thing
will be cleared up and clarified brilliantly.  Obviously it is your
choice, I'm wiling my time away cooking up a pork roast and since it's
already in the oven, I have some free time.
And yes, indeed, I was doing a bit of detective work on my end.  Like I
said, I was seeing who was who and such.  Consider it a "testing of the
waters" before I plunged in.
Again, I write this with no snarkiness or contempt at all.

~I see you deleted your personal information gathering thread
April 30, 2009 - 14:05 ET by choselife3x
Any particular reason?
"Again, I write this with no snarkiness or contempt at all.
Yeah, me neither. Plugs.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 
reply
Email this page


**choselife3x
April 30, 2009 - 14:30 ET by pelicanmarsh
No, no particular reason.  Once I had, I think it was, 37 responses, I
deleted it.
  Rexcondranim asked me the same thing, via email.
Did you contact Blonde, yet, to get the full story on me?  I believe it
will clear up this notion that I am some horrid liberal troll.  That's
all I can give ya, chose.  I don't think you are really listening to
me.  Perhaps Blonde can show you the correspondences we had between us?

Oh, remember Cyrano?  Remember how he and JWF had words regarding
Cyrano's completely inappropriate comments about veterans?  I wrote
Cyrano myself, to let him know he had gone too far.  (The only time I
had lost my temper online!)  If I were a liberal troll, why would I do
this?  Wouldn't it have been easier for me to side with Cyrano if I
were a troll?
I'm just sayin'...
Anyhoos, I must away for now.  However, I will be back later on tonight, and I hope you will have written me!   

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This ship of fools no longer has space for the likes of me, and I am winding down my time spent here.
When you realize the futility in flaming "liberal trolls" that dare
invade your sacred conservative site, (like any of that matters), shoot
me an email and let's chat about the things that really matter, far
from and outside of the self-inflated intellectual superiority you
conduct yourself in on this site. 
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anyone would rather PM me than write me at my email address.  I figure
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DEM Veepstakes: One Woman's Misery
by CTPatriot
Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 05:42:11 PM PDT
Diary
authored by my good friend, "WLBD", who is new to DailyKos and has to
wait a week before she can post a diary herself. This was too good a
diary to keep the world waiting...
Enough already!  Put me out of my misery!!  If I read one more word
about the Democratic veepstakes, I may go blind.  If I hear one more
word about it, I may go deaf.  If I keep obsessing about it, I may go
insane!
Tags: Obama, DEM, VP, Veepstakes (all tags)
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Neocon Propagandists Aim to Scare Jews Away from Obama
by CTPatriot
Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 08:28:52 PM PDT
...cross posted on MyLeftNutmeg...
If you're Jewish, odds are that you've received at least one if not
several e-mails by now from concerned friends and family members
containing what appear to be legitimate pieces of commentary suggesting
that Barack Obama is anti-semitic and/or anti-Israel. Often, the person
sending the mail received it from a trusted friend who, in turn,
received it from a trusted friend. Invariably, these arrive with a
simple note of concern such as, "do you think this is true?"
Some of the e-mails are clearly ridiculous, littered with innuendo (did
you know Barack's middle name is "Hussein"!) and easily debunked
assertions (you mean he's not really a Muslim??!!). Others, some of
which are taken from the editorial pages of major newspapers, give an
appearance of credibility. Closer examination shows a subtler but
equally insidious form of innuendo.
Tags: Jewish, Israel, Likud, Neocon, Smears, Barack Obama (all tags)
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Brunette3's Newsbusters name is "Chooselife3x"... (0+ / 0-)
FYI-
She's supposedly a married mother of 3 very small children. <supposedly> Also, she's an ardent pro-lifer who would be willing to kill any woman who would have an abortion. <distort much?> She's not very bright and came over to see if she'd be treated kindly <he‘s funny when he tries to be condescending>. She loves to chase anonymous posters on the internets. <most attention he’s EVER had from a woman>
Interesting to watch actual rightwing nuts try to push their agenda in
the real world. They don't last very long in the light. <The light? This from a guy who sneaks around on a conservative site violating the terms of use?>
So far over the past year, I've been banned 3 times from their site...I
just love to poke them with sharp sticks of logic & reason. <love his use of that phrase> I try not to suffer too much brain rot when I'm poking them.<Sorry Plugs, it rotted a loooooong time ago.>
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Hi Chooselife3x!!! (0+ / 0-)
I'm going to miss our little discussions at NewsBusters. I hope you'll
stay here for lively discussions unsupported by your gang of
conservatives. Please tell everyone hello for me...
Kisses,
Syrius
(aka oddjob, ubercon, and so many others)
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{SO.. This dirtball wasn’t content with repeatedly registering here
at NB as a lib, he registered as ‘dborscjr68’ and posed as a
conservative. And not just ANY conservative….a hardcore “resist the Obama administration with force if necessary” conservative. While you read his posts, remember what he just said: I gladly confess to anyone reading that I was here originally under the screen-name of dborschjr68, absolutely.
Under that name, I did copious amounts of research and note-taking as
to who was who, who was liberal, who was conservative, etc.  I even
posted a forum topic regarding this subject.  It wasa very fruitful
venture.
And yes, indeed, I was doing a bit of detective work on my end.  Like I said, I was seeing who was who and such.}

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America is dying
February 14, 2009 - 12:01 ET by Worried
rimsky:
I have no doubt the censoring of speech will be next on the crazy
liberal agenda of the 3 Stooges. I wouldn't be surprised if the 3 RINOs
that voted for the Porkulus Bill will vote to stomp out free speech,
too.
There is nothing the GOP can do. I feel a sense of impending doom for
all of our liberties. The Dems are empowered now, are ignoring the
Constitution, and could give a rat's a$$ what anyone thinks.


People, this isn't a drill, this is the real thing.
February 14, 2009 - 23:31 ET by dborschjr68
I completely agree with you, Worried.
There
is a strong wind of change blowing out of DC, and it isn't pretty,
patriotic, American, or friendly.  The Dems are in power.  It has gone
past the whole, "Oooh, I'm a Republican and they're just stupid
Democrats!"  Our nation, our liberties, our very way of life is now
honestly and seriously being threatened.  
We need to realize, with total sobriety, that the time for posting our
retorts online is over.  We are only speaking to ourselves, here, while
out there, in the really real world, our nation is being bound, gagged,
and held for ransom by the Democratic Liberal Juggernaut.  No offense
intended, but if we, meaning conservatives, Republicans, and true
America lovers, would spend our time more wisely out there in the real
world fighting this new regime, instead of being here, online,
lamenting and mocking the liberal puppets, we might stand a chance of
actually making a difference.  I am also holding myself accountable to
these words.
Playtime is over.  The bad guys are winning.  The America you love is
being raped right now.  It's time to draw that line in the sand.  I
shall be sending out an invite to any Americans who see what I see, and
how our nation is dying, to meet with me in Bethel, CT.  Let the
government be fully notified that I will not stand idly while it seeks
to enslave all of us.
Playtime is over.  Here is where the rubber hits the road.  Here is
where we show the government that they should be terrified of us. 
Please consider this as a call to action, my dear friends.  The enemy
is not here on NB.  The enemy is out there, on the streets, in
Congress, and it is they who should tremble, not us.
I believe in America.  I believe in the US Constitution.  And I believe
in the God of the Universe, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, who was,
who is, and is to come.  I don't believe this is what He intended for
America.
I strongly, strongly encourage each and every one of you to organize
home groups, to establish grassroots organizations, to combat this
offense that is liberalism.  Enough blogging and commenting.  It's time
to man-up and raise our voices.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

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Fear us.
February 17, 2009 - 11:54 ET by dborschjr68
Yes, fear us as we blog on the Internet, telling the truth, because we
all damn sure know the libs won't.  All over the TV there is nothing
but Obama worship, and if you were an ignorant person, you would think
he really is the best thing since Jesus.  But we know better.
The Internet is still the one place we can voice our dissenting
opinions about this new President and his socialist regime.  He has
taken complete control of the airwaves, save for Fox News and some
excellent talk radio shows, but the normal, every day American won't
dig that deep.  No, it is much easier to be a sheep, letting the MSM
spoon-feed them their lies and distortions.
Newsflash:  MSNBC is losing ratings.  There is a new wind blowing. 
Some of these witless sheep are actually waking up and realizing that
something just isn't right.  "There's something that just doesn't ring
true.  The news tells me that everyone loves Obama, yet...hmm...why do
they need to keep pounding it into my head?  Why do I feel as though I
am being brain-washed?"  Olbey, Maddow, Matthews, et all, are realizing
they are losing this information battle.  Long live the revolution.
Fear us, liberal puppets.  The pen is indeed mightier than the sword. 
Consider our words as torches and pitchforks.  Read our blogs and
cower.  You started this.  We will finish it.  This will not be
pretty.  And when the smoke clears, America will be righted again.
Conservatives unite!  Camelot is shaking right now.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

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Fine, I'l say it, then....
February 19, 2009 - 10:54 ET by dborschjr68
It'll be a cold day in hell before I allow any government to seek to
change America into a Socialist nation.  I will fight.  I will stand on
my front porch with a musket, and I will not surrender.  I will rally
other citizens, I will organize protests, I will write letters, I will
marshall my resources and prepare for the long haul.  I will wrap
myself up in the American flag and stand my ground.
I cannot believe we are actually watching this unfold in front of us
and not doing a damn thing about it.  To say I'm a zealot wouldn't be
too far from the truth.  Are we Americans or are we sheep?
Conservatives, unite!
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

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HERE! HERE!
February 19, 2009 - 17:02 ET by Tom in NC
Let the Revolution begin here and now; the muzzleloaders against the
freeloaders, society's best against socialism's worst, the producers
against the takers.
In the span of a month obama has financially ruined this country, his
adminstration has bankrupted our economy to the tune trillions of
dollars, generations of our children, grandchildren and great
grandchildren will be paying for A pork filled, earmark overflowing,
economy busting, anything but stimulus suppository.
Now I know what the colonists that discovered this country felt like
under a repressive regime, question is how long will it take before the
people have taken enough.
This administration has got to go, we cannot afford a president that
has neither the knowledge, the experience or any basic understanding of
economics to continue to run this country into the ground.
THE "O" HAS GOT TO GO!!!!! 


Yes! Bravo, bravo, bravo my friend!
February 20, 2009 - 01:12 ET by dborschjr68
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under
the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the
socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened.”. . . Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist
Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Tom in NC is right.  We need to do something.  Period.  Seriously. 
Aside from storming DC with pitchforks and torches, does anyone have
any ideas?  I have some, but I'm always open to more.
Really, no joke, let's organize, mobilize, publicize, and get things
right in our country.  Anyone can contact me via NB if you are so
inclined.  Ne eligimit carborundum esse!
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

Our possible future unless we do something NOW.
February 20, 2009 - 01:05 ET by dborschjr68
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under
the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the
socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation,
without knowing how it happened.”. . . Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist
Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
I won't lie: When I read this I started looking up CT laws on owning a handgun.  I'm just saying...

"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

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The founding fathers
February 23, 2009 - 11:58 ET by rbosque
The founding fathers revolted over less taxes. If we don't take a stand, they're going to keep on screwing us.

 

Well said, rbosque...
February 23, 2009 - 15:21 ET by dborschjr68
...but in today's modern era of the Internet and such, how exactly can
we take a stand?  (That was a loaded question, by the way...)  
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.


Congress dosen't listen...care
February 23, 2009 - 12:05 ET by AMR1960

Doubt if yet another (# 123456789...and counting) message to Congress, will have any effect.
Throw the bums (especially the RINOs) out NOW!
__________________________ 
Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !


Amen.
February 23, 2009 - 15:19 ET by dborschjr68
Bravo, AMR1960, Long Live the Republic!!  It's time for change, indeed, indeed.
And
as much as I respect Mr. Glenn Beck, I feel he is mistaken in his
notion that peaceful protests are the standard.  Just because we don't
live in the America of 1775, doesn't mean we don't feel the same today
as they did.  We just have better haircuts and technology, is all.  An
observation, not a call to revolution.... 
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

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Hannity Tonight
February 25, 2009 - 20:39 ET by Sergeant ROCK
Will be talking about the 8600 earmarks tonight. Watch!
I'm with you. Who the Hell do they think they are? I'm ready to kick
somebody in the head. We have to save?? But Congress doesn't?? Well, of
course not! Why they have to save when they're spending YOUR MONEY!!
That's the ignorance of the average American - they really believe it's
by the graces of Government that they are allowed to keep some of their
money. That's what has to be overcomed. And why Congressman/s Gomert(?)
proposal for a tax holiday was soundly rejected. Of course, Kool-Aid
drinking democRATS will still tell you that they're looking out for
YOU!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the
people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Bolton/KEYES 2012


Sgt. Rock...
February 25, 2009 - 23:46 ET by dborschjr68
I'm with you. Who the Hell do they think they are? I'm ready to kick somebody in the head.
No, really, I'm with you on this.  When can we start kicking in some
heads?  Tell me where and when and I am so there with all my love of
the Republic in full glory.    
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

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Is there the possibility of a political revolution?
February 26, 2009 - 11:04 ET by dborschjr68
Okay, so we have a fraudulent, lying, Socialist President, and people across America are starting to wise up to this. 
One of the things I've noticed is an ever-increasing amount of Boston
Tea Party-like demonstrations being planned and formulated, due to the
Mortgage Bailout plan of the govt.  This is awesome, truly.
I just wonder if someday the streets won't run brown with tea, but with
revolution.  Americans won't stand for this much longer, I fear.  This
faker in office is pissing off too many folks, and his party is not
making friends, either.  I do believe one day people will march on DC,
asking questions and demanding answers that the government cannot
and/or will not give.  I'd love to believe we are this great
enlightened society, as the liberals do, but the truth is, New Camelot
will be shaken to the ground one day, and it isn't going to be pretty.
America is watching.  America isn't as liberal as the MSM would have us
believe.  Americans still read and support the US Constitution.  This
could get ugly.  So my topic proposal is this:  Will there be fighting
and bloodshed over this current administration?
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.


DBOR..Not sure a political
February 26, 2009 - 12:11 ET by celator
DBOR..Not sure a political revolution is in the works, in the
traditional sense, though lately I've heard more angry talk about
politicians than I've ever heard before. And it's coming from people
who normally sleep through political and economic issues.They finally
figured out Obama and the D's are robbing their savings and bank
accounts and their future.
More people are very aware now that the insane economic policies of
Obama and his thugs is hitting them hard, and hurting them badly. And
they are not happy.
I can find absolutely no one who believes in Obama's dream world
policies--except some whack job local professors and students at a
local liberal college here.
Most reasonable people are beginning to understand Obama is a very,
very dangerous creation of the Left, who has no intention of creating a
political or cultural environment in which the average American will
succeed. Good grief, he can't even prove he is a US citizen.
I think of those families who have worked hard all their lives, played
by the rules, raised good kids, paid all their bills, were loyal to
their employers, paid their mortgages on time, gave to charity when it
might have pinched a little bit. They worked all that overtime to save
a little money for the future. They are the ones Obama and his ilk
detest, and he is out to destroy them.
Whoever hasn't figured that out yet, might as well go back to sleep.

Mickey Mouse is one
of "Satan's soldiers" and must die, says Saudi Arabian cleric Sheikh
Muhammad Munajid.  - Daily Telegraph (UK), 9/15/08


Celator...
February 26, 2009 - 12:37 ET by dborschjr68
May I quote your words on my facebook page?  They are succinctly
written and carry quite an impact.  I applaud your intellect.  Please
let me know.  People need to read this.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

http://newsbusters.o...
The real possibility of a New American Revolution. March 6, 2009 - 22:25 ET by dborschjr68
People have been skirting this issue for quite some time now, perhaps
due to the fact it sounds like something out of an anarchist's diary. 
However, the truth is simply this:  This Obama and his cabinet and most
of Congress are determined to destroy America.  Really.  Glenn Beck has
hinted that Socialism is here in America, and Mr. Limbaugh has pointed
out that the liberals are only trying to establish thier complete
domination of this country's political system.  Do you honestly believe
Americans are going to stand by idly while America is destroyed?  Do
you honestly believe that when push comes to shove, there won't be
violence?
I'm not talking about anarchy, or a coup.  I'm talking about Americans,
privately armed citizens, going against this current government.  The
first revolution was against King George and England.  The Founding
Fathers wouldn't stand to have a King telling them how to live.  And
today's fathers won't stand having this current "King" tell us how to
live, either.
Am I trying to incite a rebellion, or trying to get militias formed? 
Hardly.  The thing is, I don't need to TRY to do those things.  They
are already starting.  I'm merely pointing out what already exists in
this great nation.  There is a remnant in this country, of men and
women who would rather fight than become anything less than Americans. 
I'm just saying...
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”  -Winston Churchill.
F**K Socialism. -Me.

http://newsbusters.o...
"Once the blood is
March 9, 2009 - 00:33 ET by dborschjr68
"Once the blood is actually dripping and the pain is soaking in,
Americans will go to the ballot box with a whole new agenda. Obama
knows it, and that's why he's trying to push things as fast as he can."
----------------------------------------------------
rammingspeed-   It is comments like this that keep me warm at night. 
His days are so fricking numbered, seriously.  America is noticing this
assault on our freedoms, and I wonder if we will even make it to 2010
to cast votes before the sh*t hits the proverbial fan for this current
administration.  I'm just saying...
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”  -Winston Churchill.
F**K Socialism. -Me.

http://newsbusters.o...
Or how about National
March 12, 2009 - 10:55 ET by dborschjr68
Or how about National Socialism in
Germany? Wasn’t that an atrocious decision made by a seemingly
desperate people scared enough by horrid economic conditions to elect
an inhumane dictator in return for financial security?

The reality is that quick fixes which
seem attractive today often have very expensive long-term consequences.
As this is not the first economic crisis America has experienced, nor
will it be the last, we owe it to future generations to not toss aside
what so many of our countrymen have died for simply because we're
currently afraid.

This seems particularly imperative as the person offering the panacea is the one stirring the cauldron of fear.
As painful as it may be, it is far
better for some to suffer today and even for a few years if necessary
than for economic cowards to force temporary solutions upon our nation
that harm it for decades and possibly centuries to come.
-------------------------------------------------------------
This is why I'm an Independent Conservative, holding onto ideals of my
own making, based on the successes and failures of both prominent
political parties in power today.

I would gladly suffer today so my kids, and your kids, can have a
better tomorrow, keeping my eyes ever upon the prize.  Let this period
in time be when we challenge the government, ask hard questions, and
demand relevant answers.

It will be difficult.  We will be tested.  But anything worth having
is worth fighting for, yes?  And when the smoke clears, and when the
rhetoric settles, maybe, just maybe, we'll have a better America.

Great article, Noel.  I hope folks actually read it.
F**K Socialism.

http://newsbusters.o...
Jeff...
March 19, 2009 - 13:50 ET by dborschjr68
Thanks so much for pointing this out!  
Great article.  I hope this catches on like a spark into a raging firestorm of true public outrage.
Oh, yeah, according to the State of Missouri, I am officially to be
considered a "domestic terrorist".  (ala Glenn Beck radio program,
today, 19 Mar 09)
Any other "domestic terrorists" on NB?  

======================
To the MSM:  It has been said that, "The pen is mightier than the
sword".  So I'll tell ya what- how's about you hold onto a pen and see
if it stops me from slapping your face.  I'm just sayin'...

http://newsbusters.o...
If the government is allowed to get away with this illegal act..
March 19, 2009 - 16:08 ET by R D Helm
...none of us will be safe.
BTW-We the sheeple are being scammed. Those AIG bonuses were Obama's.
Keep an eye out for another middle-of-the-night vote on something that just "has to be passed right now, or else" frauds.
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Dave...
March 19, 2009 - 16:30 ET by dborschjr68
It's when DC pulls crap like this that I seriously believe that this
current administration has ceased being just another nuisance, but a
real, true threat to America.  
It is now far, FAR past the time when we, as Americans, sit by idly and
post our comments on sites like this.  God bless NB, to be sure.  I
personally look to this site as my portal into the MSM's world of
corruption and cheerleading.  However, having said that, I also realize
that expressing my opinion on this site doesn't actually involve me in
the affairs of our country like I should be.
This event, this passing of legislation to TAX PRIVATE CITIZENS above
and beyond the norm is huge.  When you comb through the rhetoric and
the smoke screens put up by the MSM, you will see this is a direct
violation of the US Constitution.
Now it is getting seriously dangerous.  This is not a joke anymore. 
This administration needs to go.  They all need to be removed, every
last one of them.  I could care less about (R) and (D) right now. 
Those are letters you put after your name to play the political game,
nothing more.  They mean nothing.
Dave, do you see the enormity of this newest act from Washington?  It
boggles my mind that America isn't furious and pissed and angry and
ready to storm the gates.  I ask this not because
America isn't furious and pissed and angry and ready to storm the
gates.  I ask this not because I think you are a dullard, no.  I'm
simply venting, so please bear with me here.
How many posts can be posted here wherein the posters make witty
comments about Obama and his ilk, but that's about it?  There are
hundreds of stand-up comics out of work, and people come here to tell
jokes for free.  This man and his sycophants need to be stopped.
I wonder if anyone sees the extreme danger we are in as Americans?  
...okay.  I'm done venting.  Thanks, Dave, for allowing me to jump on
your post and say all this.  And to anyone who would comment on this,
please feel free to give me your guidance on how I can better direct my
anger in a constructive way.  I am familiar with the We Surround Them
movement, and the 912 Project.  I am familiar with the very cool Tea
Parties and the stir they have caused.
But is that it?  Is that what we have right now?  We need to simply get
corrupt politicians to "sign on" to the "principles and values"
espoused by Glenn Beck, and then the country will magically turn around
for the better?
...yeah, I need a breather.  Thanks for reading, y'all. 

======================
To the MSM:  It has been said that, "The pen is mightier than the
sword".  So I'll tell ya what- how's about you hold onto a pen and see
if it stops me from slapping your face.  I'm just sayin'...

http://newsbusters.o...
Here's a story for ya, Joy..
March 19, 2009 - 13:35 ET by dborschjr68
So there was this evil King who tried to tax his people beyond belief.
A bunch of fellas got together and decided "Poo-poo on the King, we want to govern ourselves and to hell with his taxes".
The King was furious and sent soldiers to stop the others who wanted
the freedom to govern themselves, outside of and away from the King's
rule.
Lottsa folks died.  A lotta blood was spilt.  And at the end, when the
smoke cleared, a new nation was formed, far removed from the King and
his rule.
And these freedom fellas wrote a document, a Constitution, that helped
solidify their new government and give its citizens rights and
privileges.
You know this story, right?  Joy, does this sound familiar?
The reason I ask is because when it happens again, in your lifetime, I
simply want you to understand that it will be YOUR king that shall be
overthrown this time around.
And the freedom fellas will again return to the principles and values
of the Constitution, and all dissenters will be rounded up and
horse-whipped, and then sent to Cuba.  (Okay, I added that part.)

======================
To the MSM:  It has been said that, "The pen is mightier than the
sword".  So I'll tell ya what- how's about you hold onto a pen and see
if it stops me from slapping your face.  I'm just sayin'.…

{AND DON’T FORGET, WE’RE RACIST IN ADDITION TO BEING VIOLENT ANARCHISTS:}
http://newsbusters.o...
Observation...
April 17, 2009 - 18:11 ET by dborschjr68
To any of you who attended a TEA Party:  How many black folks were
there as well?  I saw coverage on the ol' TV, (I was unable to attend
the TEA Party in my homestate of CT!  Gads!), and I did notice a
definite lack in racial "balance", if you will.
I am painfully aware of the fact that blacks in America are knee-jerk
Democrats, so I am thinking not a lot of black folks attended any of
these TEA Parties.
Does this make me racist, or simply an observant realist?

You can destroy the Constitution when I'm dead and gone, and unable to defend it. 
Until then, back off, you liberal jackasses.

{AND WE HORSEWHIP PEOPLE WE DON’T LIKE:}
http://newsbusters.o...
brain-dead 2
March 8, 2009 - 16:29 ET by dborschjr68
And what they are doing to the ignorant masses should be considered as
brainwashing and bamboozling.  I would horse-whip each and every one of
'em, even the chicks, and make them formally apologize to the American
public for being such manipulators and liars.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”  -Winston Churchill.
F**K Socialism. -Me.

{TO RECAP:
THEY ARE POSING AS CONSERVATIVES TO DAMAGE OUR BRAND TO THE PEOPLE WHO
READ THIS SITE. IN ADDITION, THEY ARE SEEKING OUT AND CONTACTING
MEMBERS WHOM THEY BELIEVE MAY BE RECEPTIVE TO JOINING A PLOT FOR ARMED
OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT.
AS EVIDENCED HERE:}

*****=Poster‘s name removed,

Wonderful to hear from you and yes, this is the correct email address.

Simply put, my adventure on NB was for info gathering purposes
only.  I had the opportunity to see what was what, so to speak, in the
world known as NewsBusters, and quite enjoyed it.

****, I firmly believe we are headed for very bad times.  All the
pieces are falling into place, and all the pawns are firmly set in
their roles.  The liberals, the conservatives, the politicians, the
players,....to me it is nothing more than a game.  A game with very
real implications, not a game like some kind of mental exercise.

I believe that the liberals today are ushering in the New World
Order, or the One World Government, take your pick.  I believe that
America will lead the way in its formation, and I believe that Obama
and his Congress will be instrumental.  The world as we know it is soon
to be a thing of the past, remembered only by those of us who walk
outside of this world's plights.

In other words, ****, I am a survivalist, an alarmist, and a fella
who is ready for America to topple.  I went to NB to gather info for
this very real future.  I met both you and JWF, and I do not believe it
was by chance or sheer luck.  I believe you two were the reason I went
to NB and posted, albeit at the time of my doing so I had no idea where
it would take me.  You and JWF responded to my writings with decency
and courtesy, and I knew as I read your words that you both are men of
integrity and honor.  Traits I stand rooted-in as a servant of the
Living God of Israel.

I know you are not "Christian", and I am not seeking to convert you
or demean you or anything ridiculous like that.  I mention my faith
only so you know where I stand and with Whom I am standing with.  I
mentioned earlier in a private message to you, that some of your
ancestors worshipped the Great White Spirit.  I call the Great White
Spirit as my Father, if you can wrap your head around that.  (I'm quite
sure you can!)

I know for a fact that the day is coming when all peoples of faith
will be condemned and rooted-out by a secularist world government.  I
know many people will deny their Creator when the going gets tough.  I
know many people will deny the faith of their forefathers for fear for
their safety this side of Heaven.  I am not one of those people, and
neither is my House.

I came to NB as a casual observer, and it bloomed into much more for
me.  It amused me to read all the postings from faceless people,
railing against this current government, making snide comments to the
liberals who posted there as well, and yet not really giving me the
impression that they were serious about what they were seeing Obama and
his Congress do.  No, they content themselves to follow after Glenn
Beck and his 912 Project, and they love this TEA Party "movement", but
they refuse to be willing to take up arms against this government if
needed.

Their response is always, "Whoa!  Slow down, buddy!  No one said
anything about that!"  Well.....why not?  Obama is no joke, ****.  He
is not some bumbling incompetent that the posters on NB think he is. 
He is dangerous.  Very, very dangerous.  And he is doing exactly as he
should be doing.  He needs to start the groundwork for the fall of
America and the rise of the New World Order.  In this he reminds me of
Judas.  Judas had to do what he did so Jesus would die and the New
Covenant could be established.  If Judas would have balked at this
task, my Father would have simply raised-up someone else to do the
deed.  Obama is a modern-day Judas, and he may or may not be aware of
this.  It doesn't really matter to me if he is or not.  What has to
happen will happen, period.

People like you are not safe.  People like you, JWF, and me are not
safe at all.  We are intelligent, resourceful, not easily intimidated,
and we are not scared of blood.  You told a poster on NB that "war
means something different to me, (or), that war has a different meaning
to me".  ****.  I get that.  I understand that.  I do, God help me, I
do.

I left NB because it was time for dborschjr68 to get his House in
order.  I deleted my Forum Topics so as not to leave a traceable
trail.  Yes, that sounds paranoid of me, but...what if it does?  I'm
okay with that.  As a Christian and as a veteran who has posted on NB,
I believe my stance on government has been recorded.  I would daresy
that your postings have been recorded as well.

By whom?  Who would care enough about the ramblings of some
conservative fellas on a website on the Internet?  Who would care about
all this talk in regards to being Americans who dissent with Obama's
administration and his Presidency?  I know I don't need to answer this..

****, I may very well be coming across as a freakshow right-wing
nutcase.  Quite possibly I am just that.  But what if I'm not wrong?

I walk in two kingdoms, ****.  One is the Kingdom of this world, and
the other is the Kingdom of Heaven.  I have a King who I serve.  He is
not Obama.  I know of battles both in the natural and in the
spiritual.  I have seen combat in both kingdoms as well. 

I look outside my windows sometimes and consider that one day, it
will all be gone.  My house, my wealth, my rights, my family...all
these things will be threatened.  I believe this will happen.  I
believe that the God-haters and the liberals will rule the day. 
Morality, freedom, truth...these things will be crushed under the sure
heel of evil.  And not a one of us can stop this from happening.

All those people on NB who make their comments and post their
sarcasms and think they really are doing something worthwhile--I will
one day be grieving for these people.  The end is coming soon, ****,
and when it does, there will be folks on NB posting a response to some
smart-assed liberal who is mocking them, and then reality will set in
and it will come crashing down like a mighty wave.  By then it will be
too late.

I have neither the resources nor the inclination to move to some
far-away State and seek to live a life away from the evils of this
world and this government.  It is not my calling.  I am here, in CT,
always watching the signs for when the government will go too far. 

Anyone with a shred of common-sense and discerment can go to NB and
read it for themselves.  The MSM is pushing the propoganda.  The
Congress will be re-writing the laws soon enough.  All the things that
you and I know to be detestable will be made commonplace.  Our rights
will be stripped-away.  Our money will be confiscated.  And then they
will come for us.

NB is not a website to go to for amusing articles about these
issues.  Everything a person needs to know about the evil that has
control of our nation is right there in black, white, and red.  And
yet, I can hear and read the postings from all the clever
conservatives:  "Oh, those silly liberals and their silly agendas! 
What a hoot!  Just wait until 2010 when we Republicans show them who's
boss!  Our TEA Parties really shook them up!  We will be in power
again, soon enough, and then all will be right in the world!  Now to
write a response to TheGingerman and slam him for being so silly!  And
then I'll make some clever quip about Barney Frank!"  ....and so it
goes.

I get the joke, ****.  It just isn't half as funny as people think it is.  As a matter of fact, it's downright scary as hell.

****....thank you for reading this long email.  I appreciate your
time in doing so.  I hope I made myself easily transparent to you.  I
believe America will fall.  I do.  I am readying myself for this.  I no
longer have the time nor the stomach to return to NB and dally in the
trite and petty exercise of "sticking it to liberals".  You had
mentioned before that maybe your words would convince a liberal of the
error of his ways and he might turn to conservatism.  (Or something
along those lines...forgive me if I misrepresented you!)  I shall not
slight you for believing this or hoping for this.  I would ne'er make
any assumptions about you or the sincerity of your actions and words. 
You are pretty awesome in my book, ****, for what that may be worth.

NB isn't my reality.  It's a playground wherein folks can come and
hide behind the veil of Internet anonymity and post hateful things to
one another with no fear of serious reprisal.  On NB you will find
"phantom bad guys" who hide behind their keyboards and spew hatred with
impunity and great audacity.  On both sides of the political fence, I
might add.

In my reality, there really are bad guys, and they are really coming.

I hope to hear from you again, ****.  In my reality I enjoy the
company of men like you, even though we shall never meet face-to-face. 
Thanks, again, for reading this email.

In His Service,
Donald in Bethel

WHEN THIS SORRY P.O.S REALIZED I WAS ONTO HIM HE BEGAN ERASING HIS POSTS. AS EVIDENCED HERE, HEREHERE, AND HERE.

ALAS SYRIUS, YOU GOT AWAY WITH VERY LITTLE. I COPIED THEM.

APPARENTLY SYRIUS AND CO. HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO TRY TO
SET PEOPLE UP TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY.

IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE FROM THIS FAKE PLEASE CONTACT ME BY PM AND I WILL ADD YOUR EVIDENCE TO MY FILES.

SYRIUS AND CT PATRIOT: NICE TRY. GET A LIFE.

 

***********UPDATE

GO LOOK AT HIS PROFILE AND ASK YOURSELVES HOW SYRIUS HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH SOMEONE FROM COLORADO WHO IS WORKING ON A REPORT. YOU'D ALMOST THINK SYRIUS WAS WORKING WITH THE GUY WHO'S BEEN E-MAILING REX. FANCY THAT.

SYRIUS: WON'T DO YOU ANY GOOD TO CHANGE IT, DIMWIT. I SAVED IT AND MADE A SCREEN CAPTURE. 

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This Guy is BAD NEWS!!!

Very hinky stuff has been going on lately and this guy pelican/dborsch/et al has been into it up to his eyeballs.

I think this is a good piece of work by CL3X.

We have to make sure that the informational and communication integrity of NB is maintained for the benefit of all.

After several PMs and other things, including mass deletions under several IDs, I myself had to speak up and post about it on one of the torture Forums.CL3X has done so much more here and my hat's off to her!

There is very little reason to tolerate dishonesty of pelicanmarsh's scale here at NB; let the Leftist sites continue to be places of mis-information, keep NB out of it!

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Impressive Chose

Explains a lot, they are all equaly dense.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Excellent Work

I was wondering why pelican  was deleting all those posts he did.  What is he trying to cover up?

Chose, thank you for the time and effort you put into finding out these liberal A-holes.  Is what they are doing something out of the Alinsky handbook?

It's a shame that these human pieces of excrement can't try and debate their position like normal people.  Oh wait, I forgot, liberalism is a disease.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

Scuba...Bio page changed

Check out his bio page (if he was not booted already) -- how it changed. And yes, I clicked on the button! ;)

 

Yaaay!!!  HE is one person

Yaaay!!!  HE is one person I would have asked you to click on if you had the POWER you were so afraid you had.  :  )

I noticed his bio change a couple times, Gee, was he ashamed of what he was?


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

LOL...

Yep, I could push that bottom -- no problem. :) However, I was true to my word, as he asked me NOT to push his bio button...and I did not -- until it became clear that he was not who he claimed to be.

I noticed that too.

I almost asked him once about that. I thought it was some kind of blog-speak for I agree, or disagree, or have nothing to add, etc. Now it makes sense. Wow! Did I ever miss that! I still got's lots of learnin' to do on this bloggin' stuff!  I haven't gotten read all of Chose's post yet but it is very interesting indeed, good work!

 

Gary

All the oil is in Texas and the dipsticks are in D.C.!

Ruk~

A lot of us missed it. I think insidious would be the right word. Don't we all have to rely on someone's honesty on this site? It's really not that any of us were suckers. The person trying to deceive is the real sucker. It's very simple: it's LYING.

GG

I agree.  My own awareness was no more than providence.  The amazing thing is how much CL3X figured out before she got my information (see below.)

I know that the internet lends itself to people lying, saying horrible things, etc.  But that is not the way is has to be, anymore than the world has to be that way, outside of here.

If we do not try to be more, to rise above the negative parts of being human, then what are we doing other than wasting our time?  We all are going to get stupid, do stupid things, but we have to try! 

It starts with honesty, both self honesty and honesty to others. Know thyself...good and bad.  Be true to yourself, for then no other man can you wrong.

Just because we have come to expect the lowest common denominator of humanity doesn't mean that it needs to be tolerated.  Far too many of the ills in this world, internet and real are caused by a lowering of values by good people, people who should know better.

To quote: "Criminals are allowed to thrive because of the indulgence of society."  We make the world what it is.  we are who we choose to be. That we have allowed ourselves to become so jaded that the nasty work of Leftists and other brands of Statists to pass by as irrelevant....

Well, look at the headlines, look at the Nation.  That is what tolerance of dishonesty and lowering of standards has gotten us.  Anybody happy about that?

If it happens here at NB, if it happens at other places and facilities of Conservative communication, what is left to stand between Liberty and Tyranny?

We rely on honesty, and the Left knows nothing of it.  To encourage honesty, ethics and such in ourselves, each other and our children is an excellent step towards the restoration of America as a Free Nation.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Rex~ :)

Well, you know what I have learned from this? Not to trust anybody I don't already know on here. So, to anybody out there listening...Are you new to the site? Did you just pop up today or yesterday? Do you not have a record? Have I not established a relationship with you already that has proven to be a trustworthy one? Are you not currently on my Buddy List? Then fa-getta-bout-it. You are too late to the party, and I'm not gonna be your friend! I probably won't even talk to you.

LOL. Just trying to lighten up the mood...not that there's not a tiny amount of truth to this being how I'm feeling at the current moment. ;)

 

Yeah, GG

Me, too.....sorta...;)

But you know?  Life is risk, no one said it was easy.  I don't think that I will change much about how I do things, real world or here on the internet.  You just take your chances and most times, those chances pay-off, in a good way.

But I hear you....

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Rex~

Yeah, me too. I'm hopeless. ;)

Rukus, Some Background

I wanted to add some background and thought this was a good place to do so.

I contributed to a couple of dborschjr68's Forums a while back.  He has, of course, deleted them.  Which is too bad.

I noticed because I went back to look at something (a side discussion I was having with someone,) and they were gone.  I PM'd dborschjr68 and asked why.  It seemed like an odd thing to do.I saw in his bio that he said he was leaving NB (which has since been changed, go figure.)

I got an odd reply, followed by another odd reply.  Both requested my email so he could explain it. 

I gave him one, and got that creepy gem CL3X posted, but I got it a couple days after he started posting as pelicanmarsh.  Looks like my jungle sense was right to not give him my main email addy, but instead a secondary one (an old one.) 

I give out my primary (more modern system, better for business use) all the time (and will do so to you Rukus, should you need the verification,) but in his case, with the deletes, the odd PM's....well, there it was: it felt hinky.

It was no trouble at all to see that he was back the next day or so as pelicanmarsh. Of course, I wouldn't have noticed, but pelicanmarsh was sucking up on a thread I was working.  It was fresh in my mind, so I noticed.  I made a passing notification of it (dual or more ID, use violation, weirdness) to the appropriate people and continued my business.

During this time, I also became aware of other IDs and such, but I did not connect the dots, just saw it as weird. I was definitely still thinking "creepo" not "mole."

I am of the mind that I like to understand things, the why and the how and so forth.  The whole thing was strange and I did not understand.

I noticed an exchange between CL3X and pelicanmarsh and was surprised at her assessment of pelicanmarsh's ID.  A mutual friend let me know that CL3X was interested in what info I had.  I shared  it with her and she kept me in the loop regarding what she was finding.  CL3X had already figured the greater part out and my meager data was frostingso to speak.

CL3X did the heavy lifting on this deal and my hat's off to her for figuring it out when my own mind had stopped at "creepo suspect."  I am glad she was able to use what I had to complete her own extensive work and do a service for her fellow COnservatives and NB's communication capability in general.

If you think her post is big time data, you should see the rest of it.  There is a lot, lot more.

She didn't do this for attention, she didn't do this just to "out" a troll.  People need to leave their grudges and personal grievances at the door and take this for what it is: an exposure of some nasty business. My own rudeness to someone down thread here was because it was their response was so ridiculouly petty that I was stunned.  In the light of good work, good data, it is important to do more than snark and dismiss.

CL3X did this to show what is going on, so that people could communicate more effectively, so that Conservatives would not get anymore damaged than they are by Leftist propaganda.

When pelicanmarsh started to delete everything, changed his bio daily...well, it seemed odd.  Why write something to then delete it?

I understand double posts and such, but wholesale deletes?  Weird, dishonest and suspect to any reasonable eye.  At CL3X's request, I pegged the ones he had deleted, to prove the deletes.  She already had screen caps of what they said prior to deletion.

For critics who object to her sharing my private data or hers, it is our right to do so.  Messages become the property of those who hold them.  Betrayal of friendship is not at play here.  There was no friendship, there is a risk to Conservatives, there is a greater exposure.

I didn't know she was going to **** my name, I didn't ask her to, but I appreciated the thought. I don't need to worry about it and so, it is simple; my name is John. Her thought was nice, but I am okay.

I am glad that someone took the time and effort to remind people who know and to show people who don't, that there are strange things afoot.  Could be bad things if they get out of hand.

So, thanks Rukus, on CL3X's behalf, and my own, for taking the time to look at her work and this comment. I encourage folks to ask questions of me, either here or byPm. I will answer them as best I can. 

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Thank you for the reply

I guess I didn't pick up the deletions because I never saw the original comments, if I had it may have piqued my interest more about what he was doing. I usually just go and read the posts that have the *New marker so I skip over much that is already been read by myself.

I'm gonna sit back and read through the entire post Chose wrote from the start, it may help me get a feel for this kind of thing more. I've only been at this for just under a year now. 

I appreciate your post to me, it helps keep me on my toes to what possible plants might be present on the blog. Thank you.

 

Gary

All the oil is in Texas and the dipsticks are in D.C.!

My Response to bigtimer, Taken to the Forums

This comment is in reply to bigtimer's comment here.

This is the comment for those who do not want to use the link:

Well yeah Rex...a troll is
May 6, 2009 - 18:32 ET by bigtimer


Well yeah Rex...a troll is a troll is a troll...that is what they do,
they always get found out...they usually always have more than one
ID...and they usually are not that hard to spot after a bit...know what
I mean? 


As far as PM messages go, if you don't know what to do about that, what can I say.   ;-)


Now, I am on to some matters that matter.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

This is about as content-free content as I have seen here today.  It is certainly not a personal low for bigtimer, but it has to be close.

As is my privilege as a Free Person, I choose to utilize the Churchill Principle in responding to bigtimer.

Bigtimer seems to feel that communication, clear, honest and accurate is unimportant for Conservatives.  Her standards, judging by her body of work to date, indicate that she thinks that the content-free content, bumper sticker, snarky, echo chamber post is the direction that best communicates the Conservative message.

Her patronizing, superior attitude is one that suggests only she is qualified to decide what is of value.  She is of the mind that NewsBusters would be a better site if it was called "Bigtimer's BigTime Site About Stuff."  

She has let her own dislike, her own ego, interfere with giving a post by someone she doesn't like a fair look.  She contributes to the communication problem by doing nothing more than echoing and brown-nosing.  In this issue, the communication of Conservatives, she is a collaborator with the Leftists who desire to disrupt Conservative communications.

I understand I am a newbie and she is an oldtimer...blah, blah, blah.  I replied to her previous post reasonably, suggesting that trolls may be more significant and dangerous, than she thinks.  I received a typical content-free content snark reply.  I would have expected more, but I am not a moron.

What NB is about is fighting Media bias.  In case you don't know, Media is communication.  NB is Conservative communication.

The last thing Conservatives need to do is ignore the importance of cummunication.  the Leftist understand communication full well and have used it effectively, for a long time.  Open, clear, integral communication is key to promote your ideas and educate the audience.

Bigtimer dismisses me by going on to "matters that matter." Does communication, clear and honest, not matter to bigtimer?  Communication is the key component to political success.

What side is she on?  Or is her personal dislike for a person her real reason for dismissal of this matter?  

If someone more prominent, or someone bigtimer likes would have brought this up, would the response have been different from her?

Tough questions, and ones which will not likely be answered.

I understand the tone and tenor of my post here, fully.  I have been firm, I have been aggressive and I know this.

A person has no latitude to be as dismissive, as patronizing and as disregarding to me, unprovoked.  Bigtimer has received a dose of my brand of medicine and she will again, as will others who deiced they can use me as a floor mat.  No one, Left or Right, gets a pass from me when they fail to be polite and respectful to me.

Bigtimer has demonstrated her typical classlessness and inability to be substantive and honest.  I call her out on it, she being a "conservative" or not.

Maybe bigtimer can get over herslef and take a look at the issue of communication, honestly.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...everyt ime!" -me

rex... Today is the first

rex...

Today is the first time I have ever responded to you for a good reason, I saw through you right off the bat.

Now...like I said before, I am off to matters that matter.

You really need to get over yourself...

Btw...I just made a fresh bin of peach cobbler...want some?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~"Seeing through"

Who said anything about peace?
February 20, 2009 - 22:00 ET by dborschjr68
As an evangelical pro-Israel veteran, I have to ask:  Who said anything about peace?  We seem to be under the assumption, (we being Americans), that there is a need for peace in the Middle East, specifically for Israel and the nations that hate her.
Why?  Listen, if Mexico said, publicly and repeatedly and even in print, that their goal was the destruction of the US and the complete annihilation of all American bloodlines, would we still see a need for peace?  Or would we rightfuly take the stance that Mexico is our enemy and there is no way peace could be brokered with these animals, and live under that reality?
Let the Islamic dogs rattle their sabers and strap bombs on their women and children.  Let the Arabs plot deviously behind closed tent flaps and pray to their impotent god.  Israel is in no danger, believe me.  Peace isn't needed in the Middle East.  Restraint is needed in the Middle East.  If Israel ever decides to awaken, woe to her enemies, seriously.
So Israel has a "hard-liner right-wing" fellow as leader now.  Good.  It beats having a wussy, yes?

Peace in the Middle East?  You would have better luck trying to light a wet match in the middle of a tornado.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

db68... Wow...you leave
February 20, 2009 - 22:16 ET by bigtimer
db68...
Wow...you leave me speechless...
You said it all.
Period. 

bigtimer, scc...
February 21, 2009 - 15:57 ET by dborschjr68
Thank you both for your kind words of encouragement and praise.  I truly appreciate them!  (I also quite enjoy it when my writings are taken out of context by sensitive members of this fine web site.  Yeah, baby!)
Thank you both, again.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

THERE WILL BE NO PETTY FLAUNTING OF PERSONAL GRUDGES. KEEP IT CIVIL AND RELEVANT.

ANY FURTHER INSULTS OR PERSONAL REMARKS WILL BE SUBJECT TO REMOVAL. 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Addition

While I was posting the above reply, bigtimer acknowledged that the issue might be real and the she herself has called people on it for a long time and it is old news....

Maybe she is sincere, maybe not.  Her tone in the follow-up I am writing about was not particularly courteous or sincere.

So, she acknowledged it...that is something.  

Her patronizing attitude held, though.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Your the judge now?

This is about as content-free content as I have seen here today.

 Hate to break it to you Rex, but your post isnt much better. Get a grip, some of us are not all that shocked that liberals are so shallow that they may come here and play pretend, they do it every where I go, all day long.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

~No civil war on this forum

We have more important matters to address here. No snarking each other, please.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Your right

My apologies

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

~Thank you, sir

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

lol chose

the funniest part is where Syrius actually believes he has 'skewed them with logic and reason' all while he's shown himself to be dishonest, conivving and stupid.

is there any topic in which he wasn't shown to be the true ijit he is? 

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

~A Brief Synopsis of Events

As I said in the beginning of this post/forum, I did not know Syrius was posing as a conservative till last Thursday morning when he tipped his hand by jumping into the Gibson thread. 

Rexdraconim had already figured out days before that the pelicanmarsh, CT Patriot, and dborschjr68 accounts were all under the control of one person/group. He just hadn't figured out why.

When I discovered independently that pelicanmarsh was Syrius from Kos, I told some friends I trusted. Rex then shared his data with me and I ran with it. If you notice any more posters commenting in a way that makes you suspicious, please PM rex, or myself. Thank you.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the Koser under my heel. 

Hi Chose

  I think one thing that makes this thread worthy of note is what DFTT's posted (I think in the open thread) about the homeschooled kid who got taken and held by the DHS because of the PATRIOT act.  The "evidence" they held him on was just stuff that had been posted from his computer. 

I see the importance of what you have done here.

The rest that I wanted to say I have typed and erased several times because no matter how I say it ...  there is no way to say all that I want to say about the manners and behavior of some people.  I will leave it at that.

~Thank you

I appreciate that and I just want everyone to be careful. 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

cl3: Your report of your

cl3: Your report of your investigation is too convoluted for me to unpack. So, can you please tell me if you did any Google searching for dborschjr68 or  Donald Borsch Jr.. Of course, I understand that the person in question could have just been using the name to throw people off. I found this name connected to a restaurant review and a church - both located in Bethel, CN - among other places, including World Net Daily. Any personal comments I read from this person would be considered quite acceptable in conservative circles. A Google search of Donald Borsch, Jr. (Donald is the name he used to sign his pm's to me), brings up this site. The site seems quite legit and not at all extremist. Did he ever post suspicious links to extremist websites?  And why did he say on several occasions when he was using his pelican marsh name that if anyone thought he was posting under false pretenses to ask Blonde about it? Did you talk to Blonde about this at all? Any opinions? If he was indeed a wolf in conservative clothing, he made a mistake in currying my favor. I never heard of Donald Borsch, Jr. before now. LOL

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

Oh wow QM...what a

Oh wow QM...what a find!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Oh wow BT..what a

Moron!

Follow my links. See what you find. If you can't see that 2+2=4 then you shouldn't be commenting on it. You just look incredibly stupid here. You are embarassing Conservatives. And women. And people who can read. And people with an attention span.

Either disprove my assertions, or back up your own. You have yet to come anywhere close to doing either.

Tell us why dborsch created forums to gather information. Tell us why he then deleted them. Tell us why he switched account names. Tell us why he deleted his posts and ran when he was called out. Tell us why he was collecting information on NB members. Tell us why he then contacted some to propose armed revolution. Tell us why he had multiple accounts here. Tell us why he is a member on Kos. Tell us why he and syrius were swapping accounts. Tell us why he and syrius devoted so much time and effort to sneak around on this site pretending to be something they are not. 

Tell us why you are acting so hostile and personal about this. 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

~Read very v e r y s l o w l y

Look at all the links. Then read the post below that was directed to you by a Naval Security Manager in the Department of Defense. 

 

BT, QM, DFTT...

May 7, 2009 - 15:59 ET by Doc_Navy

I'm with CL and Dave on this one. It's in my nature to be a little
suspicious, and honestly... CL put in some serious "connect the dots"
work. You know how you can spot someone who KNOWS what they are doing
is wrong? They cover their face when they do or say something and then
cover their tracks when they are caught out. and just so there is no
ambiguity about this... let ME repost a comment from before:

"Chose,
After reading your post on the KOS,
HuffPO trolls... I think you just earned a hearty "Damn, she's good."
from a Naval Security Manager. If you ever decide to work for the DoD,
I'd hire you to be one of my investigators. Seriously. I'm impressed.

Doc"

Where I come from, we call that a "Bravo Zulu".

BZ, Choselife.
Doc

"Wikipedia, the first resource of the lazy mind"- Me, 2009. The Williams411 incedent

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Hey cl...you didn't answer

Hey cl...you didn't answer QM's questions...you just posted a repeat of another poster from the OT.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

So What?

Keep doubling down on stupid, though....it becomes you so.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Oh I see B since I didn't

Oh I see B since I didn't reply to you, you decided to add on what you did here...cute by half.

...and you went to college for that?

What a waste of $$$...but it buys your way into things doesn't it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Are you really this incredibly stupid

Or are you pretending? My original post answers those questions if you actually READ IT. My answer to her questions was to READ IT.

And then I answered them anyway in my post following candance's. I have a huge file of info on the guy. Look where he posts as CT Patriot. Look at his diary on Kos. Look at his profile on HuffPo. Look at his posts here. Read the evidence I laid out and look at where he and syrius deleted their posts as pelicanmarsh. Go look at syrius on Kos.

If it still isn't clear to you perhaps the intelligence professional who combed through my evidence can enlighten you. Ask Doc_Navy.

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

That's all well and good,

That's all well and good, cl. I certainly respect the opinion of a Naval Security Officer from the Dept. of Defense. But I seriously wanted to know if you were familiar with the name Donald Borsch, Jr. or if you did any research on the name? Or if you asked Blonde about the claim pelican marsh made that she could vouch for him? This is not meant to be a gotcha. Just asking you to clear up a few loose ends for me. I'm not disputing your conclusions per se. It would be a pretty transparent tactic to use the name of someone who might be known among conservative bloggers as a cover.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~I have a file full of information on him

Including all the sites he posts on. All you have to do is follow the link in 'CT Patriot' in my post. You know, the same name he uses in his e-mail? Then you could just Google it. Look at all his accounts on lefty blogs. Don't throw away the truth just because you dislike me. 

If you actually read my post you could easily see that they are sharing their accounts. I posted their comments next to each other so they could be compared. Not to mention syrius admitted it in his boastful PM about all his accounts he and his friends use, and "leaving gems all over the site". As in violent hateful comments that make conservatives look bad. Just read it.

And yes, I talked to Blonde. If you have any questions about her communication with him you should direct them to her.

One question: If he is what he says he is, why did he delete his posts? 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Complete silence here from

Complete silence here from the crew...

Priceless.

Job well done QM.

From what I can see, you put all in what should be perspective.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

thanks for clearing that up

You're not happy that evidence was found, you're just happy because one of your friends "outsmarted" chose. How nice.

FYI, chose just told me she's having comp problems, but apparently she is aware of this info. I will let her address it all when she comes back.

 

 

 

~No, I'm not unaware of it

I had all that information last week. DBorsch is CT Patriot. He is a poster on Kos, as well as others. Syrius is a separate person and lives in another state. I wasn't going to put his actual personal information on a webite for all to see even though he is sabotaging this site. JWF can verify that I knew all of what QM brought up and much more last Friday. Ask him. I only revealed what I needed to in order to expose what they were doing. 

If you can't be bothered to read my evidence, don't bother commenting on it. 

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

candance: For the record,

candance: For the record, and with all due respect to bt, it wasn't my intention to "outsmart" anyone. I did some of my own research - cursory though it may be, and wanted my conclusions to be either confirmed or debunked. Donald Borsch Jr. is a real person - at least as real as any of the rest of us here. And the names Donald Borsch Jr. and dborschjr68 are found on other perfectly reputable websites. I clearly admitted that it's quite possible that this identity was used in order to establish credibility. If the questions can't be answered, I have nothing further to say about cl3's conclusions as they stand.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~You didn't

Ask JWF if I had the information on the guy. I researched them both. Last week. He is setting people up to get in trouble with the current administration.This is the whole point of my original post. Look at his posts and his letter to a member here. It is obvious.

Why don't you ask him to explain his deleted posts. Or his surreptitious switch in screen names. Or his repeated changes to his bio. Or his reasons for his admitted information gathering. Or his suggestions of violent resistance to the government. Or his remarkable similarity in posting style to Syrius. Or ask Syrius for the names of all his accounts he boasts of. The ones he says he shares with his friends. Or what his "gems all over the site" are. Or what he meant when he talked about "Infiltrating the right-wing nutjob sites". (Noel and Blonde can verify that one)

If you can't be bothered to read the evidence laid out for you, and you can't take the word of a Naval intelligence officer who actually did read it, maybe you could just ask the dishonest people who initiated this what they were up to. I'm tired of doing the leg-work for you if you can't even have the sense, courtesy, or decency to read it before asking dumb questions.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

I googled him Queenmum.

  He exchanged emails with me and knows my real name.  And seeing as how he is doing weird stuff here, I wanted to make sure he was not some kind of dkos plant.

  His accounts on the internet only go back as far as Dec 2008. And quite a few of the places he registered have now been unregistered. including resistnet you found. Just like he is undoing posts here on NB when he gets the chance.

  Then there is there is the post at the transiberian orchestra from 2006. And his only known picture on the internet, in a google cache from the deleted account at resistnet - him in a transiberian orchestra Tshirt.

  He violated the terms of service agreement by his own admission and he is deleting even the tamest of posts. I do not understand why his account here has not been closed.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

~So on one thread you claim you know all about it

And on another you imply it isn't true. 

Priceless. 

If you have any questions about my evidence, perhaps you should contact the Naval Security Manager quoted above. He seemed to have a ready grasp of reality and perhaps he is willing to take the time to explain it in one syllable words and draw you and QM some pictures.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Wow...you and your little

Wow...you and your little band won't admit you are wrong.

Priceless.

Not like something anyone couldn't figure out with any of you, when a band forms against others it is obvious, and it has been for quite a long time now.

...and people think dems are bad ...the in-fighting, unfortunately with all people, all walks of life, will continue and always will...as long as there is more than two humans roaming the earth.

Give credit where credit is due, instead of the constant attacks, like children.

We have a war to fight to gain back this country...we should be doing this together.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT, That is because some

BT,

That is because some of us take the time to write something and provide good information, not just some snarky comment.

To paraphrase Gov. Palin "Well gee Bigtimer, your just not the center of everyone's universe"


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

BT, I do not know why you

BT,

I do not know why you have such a bug up your buttocks
about Chose3 and her posts warning NB about people that would love to
shut us down.  All I ever see you do is defend those that attack her. 
You were quick to blame a poster for "starting up" something when it
was clearly someone else who started it.

You complain about her "taking up half the page" with a post.  I never saw you tell Pop Tech off they way you do to her with his constant spamming everytime Gov. Palin is breathed in a blog or a post.  A poster tells her that she is not a good mother if she is spending her time at NB. A nice tactic the left was using against Gov. Palin.  Did you stand up for Chose3?  No, you stood up for the poster and the hateful things the poster said.

This is everyones site and they are free to post what they want on an OT or in their own Forum.  You are not the one who runs this site even though it appears you think you do.

Chose3 cares about this site just as much as you or I do and does not want to see it destroyed by jackels from the Left.  We would all be wise to watch what we say and who we say it to, especially alot of the new posters.  Some of the posters Chose3 has exposed fooled alot of us. Some were invited to be buddys.  Gee, would you like to be one of the ones that said something that could be used to damage the site because someone bamboozled you?  I don't think so.

So I would suggest laying off the piling on whenever Chose3 posts.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

Taking sides in a no win

Argument does what for who? They are both (or is it a tag team?) more then capable of having their tiff without any baiting from us.

Just read,, and hope there's a cage match. : ]

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Scuba.. I would suggest

Scuba..

I would suggest you pull your head out of your arse and maybe, just maybe... you will see the light day.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

How lovely

And ladylike.

Gosh, Big Timer. 

Show us how good manners are well and truly done, would you please? 

Then, if you would, a demonstation of ROTFLMAO'ing off.....and perhaps, next, cute by halfing, and then a further demonstration of how one does a great job of jumping up and down while "Hear, Hearing".

Thank you ever so much, for your continued comical contributions here.

Your ever faithful friend.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Doubling down on stupid is

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

True

Maybe you should stop doing it. Leave a little something to find your way home with.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Btw b... That post you had

Btw b...

That post you had to jen7 the other night was real lady-like now wasn't it?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Pull my head out of my

Pull my head out of my arse?  Something tells me you do not like it when folks point out your shortcomings.

Do you have a problem with someone showing that we have posters that could do harm to this site?  By your response to me I guess the question is NO.

And I have seen the light of day BT, and you sure as heck are stuck in the tunnel of your own narcissism with your posts.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

To the Self Panicking QM and bt

First, pelicanmarsh did not admit multiple IDs until he was called on it, this is a matter of record and can be proven, don't make further fools of yourselves in your self-serving mission of green-eyed monster-ism.  He is dishonest at best, and could be something far more ugly.

Second of all, I personally received an extremist letter, CL3X has provided examples and more.  I assure you, I can prove extremism to any competent authority here at NB that requires it. I do not now, or mostly ever will, consider you two to be a competent authority in anything but bitter snark.

You can say and do what you like.  You might try to start trying not to sound like a couple bitter old fiends with nothing more to do than collaborate with trolls, moles and shills.  You might also try actually reading things that are posted, both as comments and by the writers. 

Try taking a good effort at face value.  Try looking past your own egos and hatred.  Try acting like you have your own brains and are not sharing one you got on special at Rent-A-Brain.

And why not think about why is it not okay to have more than one ID, to change and delete all the time and to generally engage in acts that you yourselves would not appreciate were it done directly or concerning you.

Furthermore, should one of you or a more prominent member or write of NB had posted this, you would have been trampling each other to get first crack at the butt kissing.

To the audience:  Churchill's Principle is in full swing and shall not be retracted until these two old harridans get off their high horses and quit alternating between "nothing new here" and "look what I found."

What QM and bt are engaging in is at best petty, and at worst helping to destroy not only a good person, but also doing their part to reduce effectiveness of Conservative communication.

Why?

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Why?

Are you really that dense? Their woman for crying out loud. Heck were lucky they paired up somewhat. 

G'night

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Well, GC....There You Have It...

You may have a point and I am laughing as I sit here.  A good chuckle ain't that bad a thing, right?

Well, goodnight to you, too.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

...and I wonder just who

...and I wonder just who you really are rex?

Thanks gc.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Predictable

And to think you got mad at me for essentially saying you were exactly that.  If you don't want to be predictable,don't be. Your pal QM already accused CL3X of that a while back, which is a matter of record and was just as ridiculous now as it was then.

The funny part?  I can prove exactly who I am, at any time to competent authority at NB. So that is who I am; who I am, what I state, what I say and do not edit for content and delete.  You can like or dislike it.   I would prefer you dislike me, if at all possible.

I am also capable of posting something beside interchangeable snark butt kissing bumper stickers.  That is who I am.

So, there it is.  Who are you?

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

rex... You need to really

rex... You need to really go back into that tent and smoke some more of that the Peace Pipe...what happened to your Dr. Phil persona? 

I'm Indian too...you need to relax and admit you were wrong Big Chief.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bigtimer

Just saving this brilliant example of stupid to show the great-grandkids.

Do not ever denigrate who I am or what my heritage is.  You get this one time, enjoy it.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

What the heck is that

What the heck is that supposed to meant rex, who the hell has denigrated you Dr. Phil?...

I'm part Cherokee and Sioux ...don't mess with me either.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

You Are a Liar, bigtimer

Even if you have some blood (claimed from the most common in the midwest.) it is evident that you are not a traditionalist and are without honor.  You have no claim to the culture.  You are a pretender to cover your rump.

If you had any honor, you would have known better than to say those things.  A person of the First People does not say those things, ever.  A person of the People does not speak irreverently of such things to enemy or friend.

If you were either of those People you claim, you would have more to contribute, instead of just sucking up to your imaginary world.  You would have a dignity, a pride and an intellect.

Claiming it don't make it so.  To do so is a continued insult and continued unacceptable behavior. You may bow out with whatever modicum of grace you might have.  If you choose not too, then so be it.

The real deal is here.  You can hide behind your anonymity, but the Ancestors know.

Your statements are an affront to my people, my family, my Ancestors and my defendants.

Some might question my treating you as anything more than the flea bitten animal you are.  I do this not for you, but for myself.

The line is drawn, and until you retract, publicly your remarks and show shame for them, you will be unacceptable to any with honor.

You will not be offered quarter by any with any honor they wish to keep, you will be nothing.  You will be no more that the wasted filth that you are.

If you have the blood and the reverence, you should feel shame for those remarks and remove yourself for saying such things.

The fact of saying them shows you are nothing, nothing at all.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

rex... Are you

rex...

Are you alright?

Seriously.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bt... Commedians pop-up

bt...

Commedians pop-up in the darndest places don't they?

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Hi Ct... That they

Hi Ct...

That they do.

What is sad about all of this to me is QM isn't getting her rightful due....none.

Nobody is saying they may have been wrong.

Nobody.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Look at That, False Assertions

Bigtimer making false assertions?  Shifting the argument, desperately looking for someone she hasn't brown-nosed in the last half hour?  Who would have seen it coming?

She can mock, she can denigrate, she has mastered the bumper sticker snark post.  Such things would make would elevate her right to the top, most anywhere on the internet.It does not take much, because, after all, no one puts their money where their mouth is out on the internet.

Bigtimer has sucked up to so many people so many times that it is all a blur.  It is actually kind of impressive, if you are into that sort of thing.  She hardly ever misses an opportunity to post one more "Great Point!"  What would we do if she stopped brown-nosing?

She has many accomplishments.  The things she lacks are literacy and integrity.  She fails to be honest, fails to correctly state people's positions and is useful only to the immense segment of NB that adores a kiss-ass.  She is a perfect tool for the Leftists, a joke upon herself, who relegates herself to irrelevancy with every sycophantic post.

Fantastic!

Think of her response to all of this if it were from someone she felt the need to cozy up, too.  We would all be the morons if we didn't take an honest look at it. She doesn't care about honesty, Conservatism or anything but her next opportunity to suck-up to the powers that be.

Hey, it is okay some of you old timers and some of you in management, you are institutionalized, jaded, comfortable.  You are not expected to see the hand in front of your face, much less actually think.  No, it is okay to let all the trolls, moles and shills, the racists, bigots and zealots post!  Sure, and it is not important to respond or de-bunk these people because it is all just an echo chamber, isn't it?

Please do not let a noob waste any more of your valuable suck-up bumper sticker time.  You can continue to do to the GOP and Conservatism what you are doing to NB; nothing relevant or important.

While you all enjoy your typical establishment suck-up circle-jerk, the people who actually give a darn about what is happening to the country will hang in there, fighting for what is right.  When and if they get it fixed, here will come the bigtimers of the world,waddling up to take the credit, stepping on whoever they please.  No matter, business as usual.

Mock, cast dispersions do whatever it is you need to prop up your poor wretched self-esteem.  It is not like I have any real consequence for your ire. The lines are drawn and I am glad you are who you are.  It is a good example of what doesn't work in real life.

You can only turn yourself into a complete joke and waste of time about a million more times, so you best get after it.

I think there is someone "important" posting something on the main threads that needs some brown-nosing.  But you would know that better than I.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Careful now rex... You

Careful now rex...

You are showing your true colors.

Think those men in little white coats...haha...hoho...hehe.

Simple me...you're pisssed because I didn't fall into your trap.

Too bad...so sad.   ;-) 

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I'm Not Pissed

Just letting you make a fool of yourself.  If I was pissed it would be different.  I am just calling it like it is, putting decorum aside via the Churchill Principle and letting the chips fall.

You see, you doubled down on stupid, when you needed to sit out a hand.  better get back to work out there on the threads so you can get enough stupid back together to make another bet.

Keep on coming, don't just prove you are a vicious, stupid, useless person...

Make us believe!

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Awe come on Dr. Phil...calm

Awe come on Dr. Phil...calm down some...

You've been so busy telling us all how we are supposed to post with love and good-will... I'm not feelin' the love here.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Churchill Principle

Due to your disrespect and dispersion of others, and me, you have earned treatment as is appropriate to the Churchill Principle.

You will continue to do so until you stop and think, sometime around the end of time, it looks like.

You can continue to mock, such is your only known option.

So, there you go.  You get this treatment because you rate it.
You used up your "benefit of the doubt" about the time you attacked a post because of who wrote it.

A Free Man always reserves the right to set down his urbanity and pick up the Churchill Principle approach.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

~Wow...rightful due

Amazing. You are a disgusting person.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

rex... I'm betting you

rex...

I'm betting you hail from Brooklyn.

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No, I Hail From Colorado

I am from Colorado.

It is okay, I understand the tolerance of trash and butt kissing sycophants here at NB.  

The thinking is really not that clear if you can't see that what she did is wrong.  I understand that she sucks up a lot around here and the writes and management like that, but it doesn't change the truth.

Mock me if you will, just makes you a little more pathetic and a little more gullible and foolish that her.

I may be a noob, but I am nobody's doormat.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

I was close. Brooklyn has a

I was close. Brooklyn has a lot of people that talk the way you write, so it was an honest mistake. Colorado Ave. is one of my favs in the Bronx.

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Ct...     

Ct...

     ;-)

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Very Good, You Can Mock Me

Thanks for the effort. It would be too much too ask that you should actually do more than mock me. 

Why not?  I am not a moderator, nor anyone of consequence at NB, I am just a poster, just a man, just me.

So, by all means, mock me. It doesn't make me wrong, it doesn't put me in bad company, it does those things to you.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

rex...  Mock you?  It

rex...

 Mock you?

 It is time for the meds.

Like I said, I saw through you a long time ago.

Time to look into you with diligence.

 Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Look All You Want

I have been pretty open here and will continue to be so.  Lots of data

You can imply all you like, but at the end of the day, you will be a fool, guaranteed.  Just like you were at the beginning of the day.

So, I welcome your efforts and will enjoy how utterly stupid you will continue to look after trying to "prove" your implication.

But you won't "prove" it, you won't even try, you are not going to do anything beside try to use implication.  How stupid do you want to look?  Most people, in your shoes, would be satisfied to a mere clown, a fool, a person valued only for their comedic value.

But you, you bigtimer, you have ambition.  You want it all, you want to be both stupid and dumb.  Trouble is, you may be too lazy to be both at the same time.

I look forward to your attempts as they will marginalize you even more. 

In a moment of mercy, I warn you, I really am who I am. You won't listen, so it is your own grave you dig, but you can't say I didn't warn you. You will say that, honesty is not in you, but it will just be one more stupid lie, relegating you to the waste-bin of used-up butt kissers. 

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

What the heck are you

What the heck are you talking about oh crazy one?

Please...QM provided a link above and you just didn't like it one little bit did you?

You have tried your best to get me into your web, and I never went there....you can't stand that can you?

What about what QM provided eh?

Seems pretty well obvious.

If you are a real conservative who cares, you might give her some her credit, after-all, she came up with a good one we should all take a lesson from.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Hey, A Direct Question From bigtimer!

Sure it was buried in a bunch of snarky irrelevancy, but there was a real question.  I wonder if anyone will believe me that I saw her actually ask a question?

I saw what QM posted, with my own eyes, on my own, over a week ago.  CL3X has seen it also. It is part of the bigger picture, but not the picture itself. CL3X has covered this, will continue to cover it, as will I. If you or QM really care, you can look at the whole body of work CL3X has presented and see the connections made between pelicanmarsh and everyone else he claimed to be until caught.

You don't want an answer, you want to fight your little cat-fight with CL3X.  Everybody gets that, even me.  Your judgment is impaired whenever CL3X is involved.

The sooner you and other like you wake up and realize that it is not "politics as usual" out there, the sooner we, as Conservatives have a chance to do something about it. If you are content with treating what is happening in this country like it is no big deal, then fine, bury your head in the sand with all the other establishment, institutionalized ostriches out there, just  do it in the corner.

The bigger question is why are you okay with an obvious creepo (plenty of evidence) who only admits some of his shenanigans when he is called on it?  What is so hard for you to get over about CL3X that keeps you from seeing that, if nothing else, the guy did some shady, dishonest things? 

How would you like to get a letter like that, just for asking a friendly question of someone you were kind of okay with, when you thought you had some common ground?  His PMs leading up to it were odd, but I am a curious person and bit.

If you consider the current political climate and the ambitions of the Leftists in charge, you can see that this is a very real possibility that CL3X has written about and that her data is pretty darn accurate.

Sure, there are other accounts, other sites out there with his name on them.  If you look at what CL3X has done you can see the connections between his IDs, choice of subjects and much more. 

I have actually addressed quite a bit of this all over this and the other threads. His actions speak louder than any of my words.

I also have stated my own interactions with the poster in question.  My involvement stopped at the point where I take issue with creepo's doing creepy stuff.  If you quit doubling down on stupid and save a little cash, you might be able to get someone to put up with your presence long enough to learn to read.

I am glad, as others are, that you are okay with blatant rules violations concerning multiple IDs, deletions, erasures and such.  If you or QM had actually read all of CL3X's report instead of getting all green-eyed jealous over her again and attacking it with your own delusions of awareness, you might have learned something.

You go a long way towards proving my thoughts that many people here don't actually read anything, they just skim and make assumptions.  Will you actually read my answer?  CL3X has answered it here on this thread, too.

My own belief in CL3X's report comes from looking at the evidence, when I myself was just looking at it from a "he's a creepo" point of view.  She proved it to me, and others, too. Give her a real, honest chance and she may convince you as well.

This is not a "gang vs. gang," "her vs. you" thing.  This is a Conservative communication thing. You have been called on your crap and will stay called on your crap until you let it go with your spite and take some realistic stock of what Conservatism's chances of survival are!

So, read it again, ask polite questions and maybe you will learn something.  It will mess up your little imaginary world, but you will be the better for it.And as soon as you can treat people with a little dignity, a little respect, then the Churchill Principle will be rescinded.  Until then, you will be answered as you post.

And still, you can mock me, you can demean me, you can try to punish me for my impudence at your trough....

It doesn't change one thing about the truth of this guy being bad news.  People can read, people can see and people can choose to face the truth.  You won't stop them, and it is disgusting what your attitude and approach to this work of CL3X has been, right from the start.

If I am wrong, I will admit it, and harpies like you will climb all over me, too.  If I am right, you will never admit it.  It would take more courage and honesty than you can muster.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Ohhh shut-up rex...you

Ohhh shut-up rex...you long-winded drone.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Last One of the Night, So I Will Shut Up, For Now

I see that you were baffled once again by going outside your comfort zone of bumper sticker snark.  I lament that you are not so equipped as to be able to deal with a topic that requires things like study and research.

I also lament your talents in brown-nosing, and they are both extensive and impressive, are off no help to you here.

Like I said earlier, I am sure someone out on the threads is in need of one of your generic bumper sticker suck-ups.  It will be appreciated and you will feel validated, I am sure.

You have been your typical rude self, but the good news is that tomorrow is a fresh start.  If you give this a chance, or let it be, I will put the Churchill Principle away and we can go our own ways, your racism, and subsequent justification notwithstanding.

Anything you post to me later tonight, or recently will still have the Churchill Priciple applied, unless you try a fresh approach.   I will then extend you a little "benefit of the doubt," deserved or not.

Live and let live, or the James Bond version...your choice aand yours alone.  I will repond in kind. Attack me, or others, just to grind your ego and away we go....

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

LOL rex.... Just shaking

LOL rex....

Just shaking in my boots.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I am going with rexdraconim on this one.

   The use of multiple accounts. The weird posts that flirt with armed revolution. The deletions of any post that had no reply.

   I would not have used my email account had I known that in advance. I urge everyone to use the comment form and let the admin people know this guy has violated the terms of use.

~Seriously?

Do you have anything to contribute beyond personal insults you can't back up? Hmmm..what do you call that..oh yeah..

Liar.

You know nothing of rex and you have no business insulting him. 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Racism and Bigotry at NB

This sort of comment, and other types of bigotry, are far too common at NB.  I ask any who would to decide if such a thing is acceptable on a site which is attempting to communicate Conservatism accurately and clearly.

rex... You need to really


May 7, 2009 - 23:19 ET by bigtimer


rex... You need to really go back into that tent and smoke some more of
that the Peace Pipe...what happened to your Dr. Phil persona? 


I'm Indian too...you need to relax and admit you were wrong Big Chief.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

 

In this comment, bigtimer has used several racial and cultural strereotypes in a disrespectful manner. She attempts to cover this by claiming relation to the race and culture being denigrated. She is mocking another person's culture, race and heritage.

A person is not exempt from being a racist by claiming to be of a culture or race.  Especially considering the relative anonymnity of the internet, such remarks, regardless of source are unacceptable.

I made an allowance for it, once.  I called her on it and I was willing to let it be. As anyone following the thread cansee, she is unremorseful and defends her racist, stereotypical speech.

This, like any other bigotry, is dangerous and disrespectful.  It damages people and it damages the message of Conservatism.

I am a Conservative.  My views show this, my friends and family know it, it is the truth.

As a Conservative, as a Free Man, I have been disappointed by this site's tolerance and endorsement of not only racist remarks but also religion-bashing remarks.  Such behaviors are the realm of the Leftist, not ours.  What good is it to claim differences when we shown none to the world?

These things demean and weaken the Conservative message.  When I have pointed them out in the past, many here at NB have been quick to call the person on their hate.  This is a good thing.  Many other times, it goes unanswered, not only by commentators, but by NB management as well.

Bigtimer will continue to bluster, others may jump in as well, but I ask all you Conservatives out there that actually believe in out Nation, believe in morals and ethics, to consider her words very carefully and ask yourself....

What does this say about Conservatives?

Am I satisfied that this person considers herself a good representative of Conservatism?

Her remarks are in poor taste and as classless as they come.  I am not offended for myself, but for my people, my family,my Ancestors and my Descendants.  Her remarks are filth, hateful and unacceptable.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Earth to rex...Earth to

Earth to rex...Earth to rex...

When you land on this planet let me know....then we will talk.

Lord how you blather on..you have a lot of audacity though, I'll give you that.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~You are really showing what an ugly person you are

All you do is sneer and insult. You have yet to say anything relevant to the topic. You have yet to disprove anything I have said. You have yet to prove anything you have said.

You have shown yourself to be indescribably petty and vicious. If you dig up for a really long time you might eventually reach the bottom of the barrel. One more insult out of your sneering mouth and I am going to dig up every single vile personal insult you have ever pulled out of your nether regions and flung at a poster here and post them after every post you make. Unless you want to see your own ugliness dragging around after you everywhere I suggest you stop lobbing personal insults. 

There are a lot of people here who are very unhappy with your disgusting behavior over time, and unless you want a mass petition for your banning submitted to the admins you might think about cleaning up your act. 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

A Couple More Times, Then More Tomorrow

Rex is stuck here on earth with your kind of people, the kind of people who make sure that Conservatism is a joke.  Rex is stuck here in the mess people like you made.

You continue to mock, you continue to be a moron, you continue to be all the special little things that make you, you!

It is not by my choice that I share a planet with you, much less a species. That one was out of my hands.

You are called on your crap, yet again, the apathetic and monolithic will not care. You damage the side you claim, they don't care because they do the same thing.  Such is the struggle of selfish egotistical butt-kissers. 

When will your time come, a paradise on earth made up of only you own special brand of irrelevant?

Don't worry if you post and I don't reply, I will catch up later, blathering and all.It may be blather, but it is original blather, honest blather and sincere blather.

It is not just another garden-variety bumper sticker snark, validated only by the sycophantic echo chamber.

You will have to realize sometime that you can't insult me, you can only insult my people.  Anything you do to me is less than irrelevant.  You insult my people, you will be called on it.  Mock me and be mocked in return.  I can handle the pressure, can you?

Since I am such a noob, perhaps you can answer a question?  Do you actually write replies one by one, or do you just have a collection of the tried and true and insert them at random? 

You realize that they are mostly interchangeable, right?  On the rare occasion that you actually post something topical and relevant, with real content, does someone help you or do you do it on your own?

If I were interested in sucking up, you would of course be my teacher of choice, because no one does it better.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

WOW!!!!

Here we have some excellent detective work, possibly saving many of us from, at the very least, some embarassment, and all we do with this thread is use it to embarrass ourselves. 

Choselife3x has withstood some harsh treatment from some here, and yet she still devoted what must have been a great deal of her time to put this together and alert the rest of us. And what does she get for it? Pure bitterness that only the 0 and his king and queen of the House and Senate deserve. Amazing. 

You can believe or not believe what she has put here, but the personal insults probably have the trolls she worked so hard to expose laughing at us anyway with the way we are treating each other.  

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Well said, R1

After all, some among us actually "get it," and some just don't.

-Dave

The statists aren't coming, they are already here.

I too agree with Restless 1.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

*

*

Good work chose

  While I disagree that pelicanmarsh/dborsch is a plant from DKos, it was very good work confronting him to admit he has multiple accounts. Nevertheless, multiple accounts are a violation of the terms of use here and he should go.

  Good work  exposing the syrius/odd job/justasec & whatever else he has come here under. Good work rexdraconim too.

  Queenmum: I did some extensive research on google for choselife3x on mr. borsch. I sent it to her and asked that it be confidential. She respected that. Yes he exists and yes he has a bad habit of burning up accounts and then going on to greener pastures.

 Bigtimer: uncool. You and rexdraconim may share a heritage or a culture but anything that could be construed as a racial insult should be done privately not on a public forum. We insult liberals and trolls here not each other.

 pelicanmarsh/dborschjr68: look what you are doing here. You have people at each others throats. This is why we do not violate the terms of use regardless of whether or intentions are good or not.

 Everyone: the Newsbusters admin does not read every post. Use the contact form and ask that the pelicanmarsh & dborschjr68 dual use accounts be banned. He admitted to it in a post.

**choselife3x

April 30, 2009 - 12:33 ET by pelicanmarsh

I gladly confess to anyone reading that I was here originally under the screen-name of dborschjr68, absolutely.

Under that name, I did copious amounts of research and note-taking as to who was who, who was liberal, who was conservative, etc.  I even posted a forum topic regarding this subject.  It wasa very fruitful venture.

 

 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

**choselife3x and rexcondranim and et al...

I came here to meet like-minded people.  Simple as that.  Anyone with any common-sense will read all the posts you pasted of mine and realize, Wait aminute.  This was one of the good guys!

All you have done is say that my "crime" is that I was some liberal troll planted from some liberal websites.  I was on Daily Kos and Huff Post, I had to be, as I had to become a "member" to have access to their sites and find out what I needed to find out.  I never posted on those sites.  I was doing recon work.

Because of your self-imposed witch-hunt, now my email account is corrupted.  Now people know I have been signed onto other conservative sites, and my name has been Googled.  All you have succeeded in doing is alerting mine enemies to my goings-on and already I am feeling the effects.  I have been forced to remove myself, as much as I am able, from the Internet.

There are good people on this site who know what I know and who believe what I believe.  There is a war coming.  It will not be pretty.  I have forged relationships with some of the posters here and one day those relationships will become even more valuable to me and mine.

Congratulations, choselife3x and rex.  All you have done is scare-off, vilify, and demonize one of the good guys in this upcoming fight.

I can only hope that when the time comes, you won't be caught short busying yourselves on the Internet and doing your sacred duty of "outting trolls", as this seems to be your only purpose.

To those who wrote me in friendly gestures, thank you for getting to know me.

 

dborschjr68: For

dborschjr68: For informational purposes, can you explain how it is that your member account remains current while it has been publicly announced that your are officially persona non grata on N.B.? - Q.M.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

**QM

Qm,  Apparently my dborschjr68 name has not yet been banned.  I was able to sign-in using it and there it is.  Now I am off to answer shawn228's post.

Hi dborshjr68

I just wanted to let you know that I have caught alot of flak for defending you and being skeptical behind the scenes, because you were always cool to me.

However, the evidence is pretty overwhelming, can you explain why your ctpatriot email is exactly the same as  a KOS handle? Sorry DB, but I am pretty upset about the conflict you have caused between the good folks here at NB.

He had my vote

shawn228: If I wanted to

shawn228: If I wanted to discredit someone online, the easiest thing to do would be to steal their identity. The question is, did the ctpatriot e-mail exist prior to the KOS handle being registered? And I still don't understand why N.B. would allow this person's account to remain active if they were guilty of all of the above and a true "danger" to N.B. and the general community. Can you explain that?

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

Regardless QM

I've had my differences on this subject with CL3X and I  don't doubt her integrety for a second. She is a great poster and great mother. I was skeptical at first, but after seeing all the evidence, I agree with her concern. As far as your question on the Mods, you would have to ask the powers at be.

He had my vote

As to the Admins' Tolerance

It is a strange thing indeed shawn, that a blatant, public, professed violation goes unnoticed.

Perhaps behind the scenes?  Apathy?  I don't know.

I have asked, no reply.  I will continue to ask in private for awhile, before I post an open letter demanding why it has been tolerated.

All else aside, the dishonesty and use violations are enough to bag the guy.

The rest of it is a reminder and an important one.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

~Can you read?

 He just admitted IT IS HIM on HuffPo and Kos.

 "All you have done is say that my "crime" is that I was some liberal
troll planted from some liberal websites.  I was on Daily Kos and Huff
Post, I had to be, as I had to become a "member" to have access to
their sites and find out what I needed to find out.  I never posted on
those sites.  I was doing recon work."

Yeah, he started "recon work" three years BEFORE Obama was elected and one year BEFORE the Democrats took control in Congress.  Makes so much sense. Especially when you pair it with the fact that he didn't show up on conservative sites till after Obama was elected.

He ADMITS he is the same person that is registered on those lefty sites and 32 minutes later you suggest that perhaps his identity was stolen.

Dborschjr68: I was on Daily Kos and Huff Post, I had to be, as I had to become a
"member" to have access to their sites and find out what I needed to
find out.  I never posted on those sites.  I was doing recon work.

QM:  If I wanted to discredit someone online, the easiest thing to do would be to steal their identity.

STUPID STUPID STUPID. NO WONDER SYRIUS THINKS CONSERVATIVES ARE STUPID, HE HAS BEEN SPENDING TIME WITH BT AND QM. 

 

Dborschjr68: I never posted on those sites.  I was doing recon work.

Neocon Propagandists Aim to Scare Jews Away from Obama
by CTPatriot

Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 08:28:52 PM PDT

...cross posted on MyLeftNutmeg...

 

If you're Jewish, odds are that you've received at least one if
not several e-mails by now from concerned friends and family members
containing what appear to be legitimate pieces of commentary suggesting
that Barack Obama is anti-semitic and/or anti-Israel. Often, the person
sending the mail received it from a trusted friend who, in turn,
received it from a trusted friend. Invariably, these arrive with a
simple note of concern such as, "do you think this is true?" 

 

Some of the e-mails are clearly ridiculous, littered with
innuendo (did you know Barack's middle name is "Hussein"!) and easily
debunked assertions (you mean he's not
really a Muslim??!!). Others, some of which are taken from the
editorial pages of major newspapers, give an appearance of credibility.
Closer examination shows a subtler but equally insidious form of
innuendo.

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That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

**shawn228

Thank you for your defense of me.  That is extemely polite and civilized.  Again, my thanks.

Evidence of what, shawn?  That I am a right-wing extremist?  That I have signed onto liberal websites to get a glimpse into their world?  This is a common conflict tactic, shawn.  Know your enemy.  Hence it was necessary to go to the sites of mine enemies and observe.  (I learned some interesting stuff, truth be told.)

As to any conflict I caused...really?  I caused it?  Did I call anyone out in a Forum and post their writings for all to see?  Did I slander an unknown poster, one who I never took the time to privately email and have a real discussion with?  Have I ever cussed or berated or mocked another poster, even Popular Tech, who was a psycho?  My "crime", sir, is that I came here at all, apparently.

Shawn, it's not like we are life-long buddies.  We do not know one another at all.  But I never felt that you were a jackass or any such thing.  I would offer my email to you, but it has since been corrupted.  Alas...

Read those posts again.  See what I am and who I am.  See if I have ever spoken against my conservative ideals.  I posted under this name and pelicanmarsh.  I deleted some posts due to the witch-hunt by choselife3x and rex.  Regardless of who was seeking me out, I do not like being sought after like they have done.

I can no longer afford to stay here.  Thanks for your kindness, shawn.  Seriously.

You Did Not Admit to the Dual Identity

You were caught at it and are now trying to deflect. Try being honest the first time and people will be a little less offended, to say the least.

As a person whose family has been the victim of internet related crime, I understand the need to be careful on the internet.  Also, considering the current political climate, I understand the need to be careful there, too.  

All the more reason to be honest, not ruin yourself and your reputation and to generally not behave in a manner consistent with kook and creep.  We are not talking about anything exchanged in your earlier incarnations as being particularly revealing.  Fact is, I post stuff just as revealing, fairly often, if I have to, to make the point I want to make,

You wanted to meet like minded individuals?  Who?  Dishonest people like you?  People who cannot separate fantasy from reality?

Witchhunt?  Call it what you like, but the evidence of creepy, sneaky behavior is still there. Sure, your posts here will bring in the obtuse and the vicious green-eyed monsters.

But how many good men are going to be okay with what you did?  Even people who are not on board with all of CL3X's post can see that there is something very hinky about you.

If you were the person you claimed in your email, you would understand what CL3X is doing and work towards clearing your name from the assertions that you are a Leftist plant and accept the label of liar. By your own words, you believe that the government would do something exactly as she has asserted.

The liar label is your own doing. Nothing can change that except time and a demonstrated effort to fix it.  Today you are not starting well on that path, compounding lies with more lies and distortions.  You want to not be thought of as a liar?  Stop lying.

You destroyed your brand the moment you started lying, whether you or anyone else knew it.

Why in the world delete your Forums?  What was so damning in them?  Your actions, illicit and bizarre are what raised my own awareness of your dishonesty.  When I asked you, because I was feeling friendly toward you, your PM's were odd enough to raise my curiosity.

When I finally got your email, I had already noticed your return as pelicanmarsh.  I don't like dishonesty, I don't like games.  You have participated in both.

You want your credibility back?  Stop lying now.

You admitted nothing until CL3X had something to say about your funny business, at which time you tried to deflect.  That you have defenders at all simply shows that CL3X has enemies that will stop at nothing to attack her.  They will no doubt be back today, SSDD.

I only sought you out after your acted like a kook and started playing your same old games.  Considering the current political atmosphere, that is more than prudent.  The rest you brought on yourself by doing exactly what you did, which are things that are a manner of record.

Up until you started deleting Forums and such, and your very odd PM's, I actually thought you were a pretty good Joe, maybe even an honest guy.

But you can't ask for honesty and openness, as in your Forums, erase them, and then call "foul!" when it makes you look dishonest and worse and people cal you on it.

Coming back with a different ID and inserting yourself right in, deliberately, and without disclosure to the people you had already met?  Dishonest, dishonest, dishonest.

Anyone with a lick of commonsense can see a liar in you now.  Those who don't relegate themselves to nothing more than opportunists in their personal battles.  Or they don't care about honesty.

Why would anyone believe a demonstrated, admitted liar? They would be a fool to do so.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Whoever you are...

To me, it's pretty simple. You broke the rules by having more than one account/"name," and the result of that was that confusion (why does this person have more than one account?), suspicion (what is he/she trying to do?)...and then some ensuing chaos.

It is deceiving to "be" several people, no matter what your intentions. It's a trust issue. It caused problems for others. Instead of apologizing for this, you are complaining about what has happened to you. I don't believe any of the good folks on here would take delight in a good-hearted, well-intentioned person having their private information being used against them on the Internet. I know I would not. But at this point -- because you damaged your reputation with breaking the rules -- nobody really knows who you are. You could be anybody. Of course, we all could be, but you put into play a concrete example that you were being rather sneaky -- for whatever your purpose was. I do not care if you are a liberal or a conservative. What matters to me is honesty.

Many on here give others the benefit of the doubt. I know I really try to do that. But there comes a point where you have to realize that the way someone behaves speaks for itself. You could be a rather quirky, private, good person. You could be a nasty, insidious person. But who really knows at this point? A good reputation is a difficult thing to get back.

This brings me to my main point: the rules on here (and in life) are set up to protect everyone. Yourself in included. So my advice to you would be that when this whole mess is over, be yourself -- which, by the way, would mean ONE person. ;)

Georgia: I'll ask you the

Georgia: I'll ask you the same question I asked others. If this
person broke the rules and is the evil infiltrator that cl3 has
suggested, why is his account still active?

And if you think that
everyone here is being honest about who they are, you're the one who is
being foolish. This is a public blog site where anonymity can cover a
multitude of sins. For all you know, I could very well be sitting in a
prison cell at the moment enjoying the little bit of freedom I have by
pretending to be a mid-Western conservative female. Don't take it all
so seriously.

Interesting that now it's all about someone being dishonest rather than a recruiter for an anti-government militia hell-bent on destroying the credibility of N.B. Nothing personal, Georgia. rex has made a similar comment later on this thread.

 

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

QM~

I'm far from foolish.

~IF he broke the rules? He ADMITTED he broke them

 Multiple times. As to why he's still here, this is the only pertinent question you have asked. I am quite curious to hear the answer to it myself.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Honesty

We are who we chose to be.

If we choose to tolerate dishonesty, then we encourage dishonesty.

Just because the internet gives people the power to be dishonest, it doesn't make it right.  Such absurd moral equivalency is supposed to exist only on the Left.

This is a simple thing.  The fact that the internet can be used as an excuse for such behavior shows just how far the Leftists have gone to relegate good ethics to irrelevancy.  We do not and should not tolerate it, on the internet or off.

People are free to allow all the dishonesty and be as dishonest as they choose.  Others of us choose not to let go of our value and faith in honesty, in any medium,

As to why the management has allowed it....

Odds are the management never even noticed, much less cares.  Banning is pretty hit or miss.  I myself have inquired to the management and await an answer.  I encourage as many people as possible to ask management exactly why a violation and dishonesty as blatant as all this is being allowed.  Do they not value their communication's integrity?

There could be things happening behind the scenes if they have taken this seriously.  They might not really care, either.

Who knows.  Their action or inaction does not preclude our own.  we can still call a liar a liar and do what we can to get the word out.

We, as members, do not need to wait for their initiative when we ourselves have the power and right to encourage honesty, insist on it.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

Hmm

 The following is a list of comments by CT Patriot, calling us neo-cons, lambasting Israel, defending Iran, and other trite expressions. Doesn't sound very conservative to these ears.

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Lyme disease-where is "House" when you need him?

Michaelene, I can't help but note the irony in the fact that I am reading your article at the same hour of the night you wrote it - 3am. Insomnia would be a wonderful thing were it not also accompanied by fatigue and brain fog. I must say, though, that Lyme has turned my time clock so completely upside down that oftentimes my best part of the day is late at night. At least I know now where I can find company. Keep up the excellent writing. It's important to let the public know about the abuse we are experiencing at the hands of "doctors", the IDSA and the insurance industry. As I'm sure you know, the politics of Lyme are as nasty as the disease.

posted Apr 23, 2009 at 03:21:05

Ticking Time Bomb (Literally): Man who Murdered Pastor Was Profiled by Paper Last Summer as Lyme Disease Victim

No doubt the meds that Sedlacek was on could have been the cause and that needs to be investigated as well. I would point out that all too often, because of the Lyme disease diagnostic and treatment guidelines promulgated by Eugene Shapiro and the IDSA, and used almost exclusively by the insurance industry to justify cutting off antibiotics after 30 days, patients with pootentially chronic neurological infections are instead placed on cocktails of psych meds and anti-inflammatory drugs which often do nothing, or even exacerbate the illness. Now, as you point out, we need to be cognizant that these improper treatment protocols for Lyme disease could also be a cause of violent behaviors.

posted Mar 10, 2009 at 11:33:23

Ticking Time Bomb (Literally): Man who Murdered Pastor Was Profiled by Paper Last Summer as Lyme Disease Victim

There are documented cases of dementia caused by Lyme disease, including the case of one man who was originally diagnosed with and treated for Lyme disease, but after receiving the accepted (by IDSA) curative amount of antibiotics, which improved his health, was taken off meds, slipped into dementia and was institutionalized, never again to be treated for Lyme disease. His health declined and he died within 2 years. An autopsy revealed the bacteria that causes Lyme disease inside of his brain. Here is a link to that case study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.... For anyone wishing to learn more about the nasty politics impacting Lyme disease research, I blogged about this in 2007 in an article titled, "Attack of the Chronic Lyme Denialists": http://www.myleftnut... While it is still unknown as to what role, if any, Lyme disease played in Sedlacek's violent behavior, the possibility of a connection to his illness cannot be dismissed out of hand.

posted Mar 10, 2009 at 11:22:04

Ticking Time Bomb (Literally): Man who Murdered Pastor Was Profiled by Paper Last Summer as Lyme Disease Victim

Your response as well as that by Pineapplez are excellent, informative, and appreciated. I'd like to add that Eugene Shapiro is a pediatric Lyme disease "expert" at Yale, one of the worst institutions in the country when it comes to denial and cover-up of chronic Lyme disease. Shapiro is NOT a psychiatrist nor is he an expert on the psychiatric effects of Lyme disease, so it is unfortunate that the AP chose to seek him out as their voice from the medical community. They should have sought out some one like Brian Fallon of Columbia Univ., a neuropsychiatrist, and arguably the world's foremost expert on the psychiatric effects of Lyme disease. He has published a wealth of research on that topic and spent decades studying it. To those wishing for an overview on this topic and Fallon's work, I would suggest reading "The Neuropsychiatric Manifestations of Lyme Borreliosis": http://library.lymen... I personally experienced panic attacks, paranoia, and bouts of rage along with many frightening and debilitating physical symptoms as a part of my experience with Lyme disease, and it wasn't until I was treated with months of oral antibiotics followed by 9 weeks of IV antibiotics that the psych symptoms vanished never to return. (cont'd)

posted Mar 10, 2009 at 11:21:51

Israel, Iran And The New Neocons (VIDEO)

Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NNPT) and as such has every right to produce their own fissile material. To force them into buying that material from other countries is to violate the treaty and force them into a position of dependence on and control by other countries. It should be easy to understand why Iran would reject such a proposal just as the US would if someone tried to impose such restrictions on us. Meanwhile, Israel is not a signatory to the NNPT yet they possess several hundred nuclear weapons in violation of international law. The CIA has stated that Iran stopped working on their nuclear arms program in 2003. The IAEA appears to back that up with their inspections. So why is it REALLY that the neocons are so eager to bomb bomb Iran? We certainly know that none of the reasons given for attacking Iraq were the real ones. A careful study of neocon literature along with our actions in Iraq make it apparent that the war was about OIL as a weapon of control and "full spectrum dominance". Perhaps Iranian oil stands in the way of our achieving that.

posted Aug 09, 2008 at 16:54:28

On Joe Klein and the Jewish Neoconservatives

AIPAC recently sent some 7000 people to lobby congress in favor of H.Con.Res.362, a resolution that would result in a naval blockade of Iran, an act of war. If enacted, this would likely provoke retaliation from Iran providing Bush and the neocons the excuse they have been looking for to attack Iran. There is no defense for AIPAC's wrong-headed influence over US foreign policy over the last 8 years unless you are either one of their paid propagandists or simply too naive to understand the critical role they have played in supporting the worst of the neocon desires. As for your claims that the author implicated Jews solely, or as a whole for the war in Iraq, you need to read the article again, this time a little more carefully. The author was very careful to point out that was not the case.

posted Aug 01, 2008 at 08:38:07

Barack Obama and Israel: More GOP Lies

Are you defending what Boehner said? If so, please stfu and go away.

posted May 17, 2008 at 15:14:07

Senator: Obama Has Dozens Of Secret Superdelegates Lined Up

That's exactly where I'm at too. Clinton and McCain both make me sick.

posted Apr 30, 2008 at 12:51:49

Have You Left No Sense Of Decency?

Congratulations on your incredible ability to stick to the Rove/Clinton talking points regardless of whether they fit the facts on the ground or not. You just keep trying to invent your own reality hoping that enough people will be stupid enough to buy it. Sadly, that has too often been the case here in America over the last 8 years. Now, let's examine this from the perspective of someone with a modicum of intellect. You learn that Barack Obama has a pastor/friend who harbors views that you consider noxious. It's a fair question to then examine whether Obama shares those views. You then investigate his 40+ year history of words and deeds and determine that there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that he shares the views of Rev. Wright. Case closed, story over. However, that's not what the Rove/Clintons want to have happen here. They need to beat the story to death knowing that the racists and the low information voters can be easily manipulated into believing Obama must be guilty simply by association. And the scandal/trivia obsessed media, as Bob Cesca has so brilliantly pointed out, was only too happy to run this story incessantly, fanning the flames of racism, division, hatred and personal destruction -- a perfect brew for captivating the low information voter. Many of us are tired of this brand of politics. Why aren't you?

posted Apr 30, 2008 at 12:44:03

Thomas Friedman Gets A Pie In The Face During Speech At Brown

Talk about a case of projection. You Hillary supporters sound more like the Republicans every day. Kissing up to Richard Melon Scaife and crapping all over MoveOn and the progressive base of the party ... and you have the nerve to accuse Obama supporters of hampering unity? Pahlease!!

posted Apr 24, 2008 at 09:37:53

Hillary Clinton On Olbermann: Laughs Off 'Unholy Alliance' With Democratic Antagonist Scaife

I agree with you that Keith could have given a stronger interview, including asking some followup questions that were out there for the taking. Having watched Keith for several years now, adversarial interviews and crossfire style debate are not things that he does. I assume he's either not good at them, or isn't comfortable with it -- a definite weakness. But he did manage to ask her a couple really tough questions that surprised me, especially the Murdoch question, which had me cheering. He did, to his credit, reinforce the question when Hillary tried to laugh it off. Her answer, in my opinion, was far from adequate. You can see my post above if you want my explanation for why I felt that way. Perhaps we are so used to the bullying style of O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. that we fail to appreciate what we were able to learn through Keith's much subtler manner of asking the couple tough questions that he did. I also remember back to his special comment on Hillary, and even that rant was begun with an apology of sorts, displaying his regret for having to condemn someone who had apparently been helpful to him at some point in his career. That may have added to his difficulty in confronting Hillary the way that some would have liked. I almost didn't watch the show tonight because of this. But the Murdoch question made the whole thing worth suffering through for me.

posted Apr 22, 2008 at 02:43:28

Hillary Clinton On Olbermann: Laughs Off 'Unholy Alliance' With Democratic Antagonist Scaife

What planet are you living on? I suspect the one called "Cognitive Dissonance" which Hillary spoke of, and so many of her supporters have descended from. Richard Mellon Scaife spent hundreds of millions of dollars funding the vast right wing conspiracy. He, as much as anyone, is responsible for turning "liberal" into a dirty word, and funding so many of the think tanks and publications whose "experts" and "journalists" now pollute every corner of our corporate media spreading right wing lies. That Hillary would laugh her decision to meet with Scaife and accept his endorsement as some kind of act of forgiveness shows how bereft of principle and how morally bankrupt this woman is. She would literally sell her soul, not to mention all liberals along with it, in order to get what she covets. Hillary Clinton will do ANYTHING to win the presidency, including sell her soul to the devil himself.

posted Apr 22, 2008 at 02:29:45

Obama Hamas Ties Pushed In McCain Letter: So Much For "Respectful" Campaign

You Hillary supporters are almost as unbearable as she is. If you think McCain is going to play any nicer with Hillary than he will with Obama, or that he can't find ways to damage her, then you really haven't been paying attention to the Republicans over the last 20+ years. Of course, considering how many Republican talking points and tactics she's been using lately, perhaps you're right about why he'd be nicer to her, or at least until she was the nominee. It's easy to be nicer to the opposition candidate who is losing. Especially if you prefer to run against them. As far as your take on Obama's performance at that debate, while it wasn't as perfect as I would have liked, I think the vast majority of viewers understood how petty and uncalled for the behavior of the moderators was, and understood Obama's point that we need to be debating what's important to the American people. I also think it didn't escape most of the viewers that Hillary was more than happy to get down in the mud with the moderators rather than debate the issues.

posted Apr 19, 2008 at 07:13:22

OffTheBus On Bittergate: A Roundup of Initial Responses

Is there really any difference between the remaining Clinton supporters and Republicans any more? Your candidate uses Republican attacks and talking points, elevates the Republican candidate over her own party opponent and now kisses up to Richard Mellon Scaife, the Republican billionaire who spent hundreds of millions of dollars smearing the Clintons and turning "liberal" and "Democrat" into dirty words. And yes, you're right on one thing, the Clinton campaign has certainly proven that Democrats are as capable of tossing out bovine manure as Republicans. That's exactly what you do when you take an inartfully worded point that your opponent made, twist it completely out of context, and then build a disinformation campaign built around your distortion.

posted Apr 16, 2008 at 12:42:27

Here We Go Again

To say that Hillary is corrupt to the core is to say that all of the women and men who know and support her are also either totally corrupt themselves, ignore her corruptness, or don't care that someone utterly without morals would make a good President. BINGO!! Sometimes I can't tell the difference between you Hillary supporters and Bush supporters, at least when it comes to your ability to completely disregard her lies, her Republican framing, and her deliberate distortions of Obama's words in order to manufacture the kind of fake Rovian controversies that chew up news cycles. Let me ask you this. If you consider yourself such an ethical person, how can you support a candidate who thinks it is FAIR to count the results of a primary where her opponent was NOT EVEN ON THE BALLOT?! --the same primary that she had signed a pledge not to count after that state, MI, defied the party rules and moved the date.

posted Apr 15, 2008 at 03:34:43

Here We Go Again

If only the candidate you've chosen to support had your same concern for the Democratic party, I might feel as you do. Unfortunately, when a Democratic presidential candidate claims that the Republican is more qualified to be Commander in Chief than her Democratic opponent, she is deliberately acting against the best interests of her own party. When she uses Republican talking points and Republican attacks against her Democratic rival, she is acting against the best interests of her party. When she signs an agreement not to count the primaries in MI and FL, then decides they should be counted once she needs them to have a chance at winning, and further claims that the vote in MI is "fair" even though Barack Obama wasn't even on the ballot, she is acting against the best interests of her party. One doesn't need to be an Obama supporter to have developed a visceral hatred for Clinton and her sycophantic supporters, who, like loyal Bushies, find a way to defend all of her lies and unethical behavior. All one needs to be is a voter who keeps their eyes and mind wide open, and who is sick and tired of the status quo. Like the person you responded to, I'm not sure I can bring myself to vote if Hillary gains the nomination through pulling strings with party insiders. At that point it wouldn't be me that has left the Democratic party, it would be the Democratic party that left me.

posted Apr 15, 2008 at 01:08:25

Petraeus and Crocker: Déjà Vu All Over Again

Rep. Conyers: Why should anyone take your indignation over anything seriously any more when you obviously won't take your obligation to the constitution and the people seriously? There is only one way to stop the slide to fascism, not to mention Bush's plans for an attack on Iran and it's called IMPEACHMENT; not the threat of impeachment, but the ACT of Impeachment. No administration in history has been more deserving of it.

posted Apr 10, 2008 at 16:05:50

Truth is the First Casualty. Logic is the Second. The Democratic Party is the Third.

What the "F" are you talking about?! Do you have one single solitary video clip which would prove that anything Kerry claimed was a lie? Do you have one shred of evidence other than the accusations made by right wing smear merchants who spent millions to get Bush re-elected? In Hillary's case, we HAVE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE proving that her claims were completely fabricated. Only the worst kind of Bushian cognitive dissonance can equate these 2 things.

posted Apr 02, 2008 at 02:30:48

On My Faith and My Church

It's a shame that you can't see the difference between the 2 situations. Ferraro's comment echoed what appears to be a very deliberate strategy by the Mark Penn led Clinton campaign to paint Obama as the "black candidate", hoping to very subtly scare enough white voters away from him for Hillary to win the nomination. Were Ferraro's comments an aberration, and had Hillary repudiated them immediately, and had Ferraro not stood by her comments and at first refused to resign, I might agree with you. Wright's comments, on the other hand, were made during an impassioned sermon from months ago in one case and years ago in another, meaning that they could not possibly have been a part of some deliberate strategy by the Obama campaign. Why is it that Hillary and her supporters always run to "victimhood" right after they lob their hand grenades at Obama? I thought that was a Republican tactic.

posted Mar 14, 2008 at 22:36:42

Senator Clinton Isn't A Republican, As Far As I Know

Be Afraid!!! Be very afraid!!!! That's all that Hillary Clinton and her supporters have left in their bag of tricks, and frankly, I'm sick of it. Don't look over here, look over there. Don't listen to what Barack Obama says or what he stands for, judge him by what his preacher says. And even if you don't judge him by that, judge him by what Fox News will say about what Obama's preacher says. Who cares if you think he'd make the best president. He can't win it because Hillary Clinton's supporters said so. Therefore, the practical thing to do is vote for someone you don't think would make a good president because "they can win" (and that, of course, is assuming that the McCain campaign couldn't dig up equally nasty dirt to fling at Hillary - perhaps you forget, that's what they excel in).

posted Mar 14, 2008 at 17:09:05

Ferraro: The Obama Camp Should Apologize To Me

You are delusional

posted Mar 13, 2008 at 15:41:12

Keith Olbermann To Do "Special Comment" About Hillary Clinton Tonight — First Time Targeting A Democrat

Please, don't confuse Hillary with the left side of the aisle. She's from the right of center, corporatist, DLC wing of the Democratic party.

posted Mar 12, 2008 at 13:11:46

Keith Olbermann To Do "Special Comment" About Hillary Clinton Tonight — First Time Targeting A Democrat

I guess it's easy to become willfully blind to the lies, distortions, and nasty campaign tactics coming from the Clinton campaign if you simply dismiss any criticism of those tactics as Misogyny, isn't it? I mean god forbid that you actually listen to the substance of what Keith has said and is going to say. And if you're trying to practice what Obama preaches, I would start by not playing the game of character assassination or shoot the messenger.

posted Mar 12, 2008 at 13:10:35

Breaking the Final Rule

Oh stop it with the false equivalences. Hillary hasn't just gone negative, which is perfectly acceptable in a hard fought political campaign, but she has gone UNETHICAL. Fear mongering, claiming that the GOP candidate is a better choice than her Democratic opponent (who she oddly also wants for her VP), Running deceptive NAFTA ads, lying about her past NAFTA statements. Hillary Clinton and her supporters can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. You people are no better than the Bushies. I'm about at the point where, if Hillary manages to win the Democratic nomination after such an underhanded campaign, I'll write someone else in for president. And yes, I know that helps McCain. But screw it. Maybe it's time for the Democratic party to, as Bill Clinton would say, "just go away".

posted Mar 08, 2008 at 23:56:59

Breaking the Final Rule

You're as dishonest and deceitful as the candidate you support. No wonder you're a Hillary fan. And as far as being a cultist, sorry, I'm not that big an Obama fan either. But there is no comparison between the 2 of their campaigns when it comes to ethical conduct. You bring up the Canada deal, which has been denied by the Canadians. They have also claimed that Hillary winked at them about NAFTA before Obama supposedly did. You mention Rezko - if you have any proof of wrongdoing there, let's hear it. All I hear is baseless charges. You Clinton people ought to remember Whitewater, shouldn't you? And you misrepresented what his foreign policy advisor said, which was simply that there was one scenario where we might have to stay in Iraq longer than they intend to. That was not an official campaign position. It has not been echoed by Obama. And it was probably the correct, pragmatic answer, and an unlikely scenario. Meanwhile, we know who voted for the war. We know who voted for Kyl-Lieberman. We know who voted for cluster bombs. We know who uses GOP style fear mongering ads. We know who says that the GOP candidate is a better choice than her democratic opponent, and that is NOT the same as saying that Clinton and McCain both represent the old way - he didn't say that McCain was better than Hillary, just that he was better than both of them. My polling figures are correct from every single article I have read. Perhaps you could give a link to the one you claim shows Hillary doing better against McCain than Obama. What is it, the Fox News Poll?

posted Mar 08, 2008 at 23:50:05

Edited to add that in the interest of full disclosure, I too am registered at Huffpo, as well as other liberal sites. I registered at some of these to voice my opinions in the lion's dens and would welcome scrutiny of my posts at any one of these.

"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

~And all God's people said, "AMEN"

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Restless1, Thanks for

Restless1,

Thanks for showing what type of person CT Patriot really is.  You, CL3X and Rex are doing a commendable job in exposing the type of people that are here at NB under what appears to be false pretenses.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

Scuba Dude

Thanks for the words, but CL3X and Rex pointed down the path. All I did was turn over a rock.

I'm not sure he was trying to get people into trouble, although that is a possibility, but rather paint an unflattering caricature of conservatives on this site. Either way, he was here under false pretenses and up to no good.

"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

The Basis of My Own POV, R1

CL3X makes a darn good case.  Whether someone believes or not is factored by several things.  No matter what, the guy is bad news.

What I fail to understand is the defense of an obvious liar and sneak. 

His dishonesty would at least should be simple enough to understand, one would think.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

~And pelican opens his beak, inserts foot

Tell us why you created forums to gather information. Tell us why you then deleted them. Tell us why you switched account names. Tell us
why you deleted your posts and ran when you were called out. Tell us why you were collecting information on NB members. Tell us why you then contacted
some to propose armed revolution. Tell us why you have multiple accounts
here. Tell us why you were posting under each of them pretending you weren't the same person. Tell us why you were stupid enought to use the same phraseology with separate accounts. "To the extreme right of Limbaugh and Coulter", huh? Can you say "overkill'? Tell us why you are a long-time member of Kos. Tell us why you are a long-time member of HuffPo. Tell us why you and syrius are
swapping accounts. Tell us why you and syrius devoted so much time and
effort to sneak around on this site pretending to be something you are
not. Tell us why you didn't start showing up on conservative websites till after Obama was elected.

So you registered at HuffPo in 2005 to "build up credibility" so you could better fight the 'upcoming war' with the Obama Administration, huh? Why didn't you just tell us you were psychic? I could really use some winning lottery numbers, be a doll wouldja?

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

cl3: For your

cl3: For your consideration: A lot of people didn't
start showing up on conservative websites until after Obama was
elected. The Tea Party movement is an example of the silent majority
finally coming forward. A lot of groups and websites have been formed
since Obama took office. Not everyone who participates in these groups
or websites is out to promote armed revolution. And you do them all a
disservice by suggesting this.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~You do conservatives a disservice

By being so mind-numbingly stupid.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

cl3

"QM:  If I wanted to discredit someone online, the easiest thing to do would be to steal their identity.


STUPID STUPID STUPID. NO WONDER SYRIUS THINKS CONSERVATIVES ARE STUPID, HE HAS BEEN SPENDING TIME WITH BT AND QM. " - Quoth cl3 above.

 

~You do conservatives a disservice

May 8, 2009 - 11:04 ET by choselife3x


By being so mind-numbingly stupid.

 

 

cl3: Thank you for proving dborschjr68's point so succinctly.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~Thank you for proving mine

I told you to get out of the line of fire.

You have posted nothing but lies and distortions.

 Not everyone who participates in these groups
or websites is out to promote armed revolution. And you do them all a
disservice by suggesting this

Show me where I suggested that. Liar.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

~If you are going to alter your posts

Adding "Edit:" or "Edited to add:" is customary. Try it next time.

cl3
May 8, 2009 - 11:19 ET by QueenMum

~You do conservatives a disservice
May 8, 2009 - 11:04 ET by choselife3x

By being so mind-numbingly stupid.

cl3: Thank you for proving dborschjr68's point so succinctly.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's
whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization
is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

You're coming unglued,

You're coming unglued, cl3.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~Oh please

I've saved this whole thread as an historic monument to your willful stupidity and blatant dishonesty. 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Fair Enough QM

I would agree.  I myself would not be on NB as a member if it weren't for certain personal necessity during an illnes.  And at that, I wouldn't be here if my wife hadn't insisted.

Obama or not, this is not entirely my bag.  I did go to my first protest, as a Tea Party, ever in my life.

My point, my position and take on the pelican matter starts at a dishonesty.  Bad as things are, we don't need the dishonesty, regardless of reason, here at NB.  Prudence and security are one thing, deliberate dishonesty is another.

JWF has addressd this as well.

<edited for additional comment below the edit>

I was reviewing CL3X's posts and I can't find where she she asserted that the groups were all formed as extremists.  I still agree that there are many benign groups.

I do not agree that pelicanmarsh, in any way, is benign.   

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

rex: From the version of

rex: From the version of cl3's forum topic that is posted on the Open Thread dated May 7, 2009:

"{TO RECAP:
THEY ARE POSING AS CONSERVATIVES TO DAMAGE OUR BRAND TO THE PEOPLE WHO
READ THIS SITE. IN ADDITION, THEY ARE SEEKING OUT AND CONTACTING
MEMBERS WHOM THEY BELIEVE MAY BE RECEPTIVE TO JOINING A PLOT FOR ARMED
OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT.
AS EVIDENCED HERE:}"

And here's the link.   I may be stupid, but I have a pretty good memory. And I expect that cl3 will be removing her "Liar" comment. In addition, as much as I hate to have to do it, I've saved most of the entire post for future reference. This is what the honest members of N.B. have been reduced to in order to protect their good names from overzealous troll hunters.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~Wow

I'm talking about two dKosers posing as conservatives here on NB and you try to use that statement to back up your claim that I am said that anyone who joined a conservative website after the election is an extremist? 

You are not only a liar, you are a poor one. 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

#$%^&* re: WOW!!

Others can read for themselves what both you and I had to say and decide indepedently about what constitutes a lie and what constitutes a fair assessment based on an interpretation of someone's statements and overall purposes. Stop spinning. You'll get dizzy.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

~How disgusting

If you ACTUALLY READ through my original post you would know that the people I am exposing are not extremists, they are POSING AS EXTREMISTS.

WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT. THEY ARE LIBERALS, NOT CONSERVATIVES.

My post has nothing to do with honest people who have become politically active since November. It is about dishonest liberals.

You are desperate to act like you aren't dead wrong here, and all you can do is try to say I said something I didn't say. Pathetic.

LIAR.

LIAR.

LIAR.

LIAR.

LIAR.

 

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Morning Mum... I also

Morning Mum...

I also have been doing the same myself lately, it's a sad day when some cannot admit they could be wrong...instead, they resort to jumping on the band-wagon and continue the attack of other conservatives here...just to vindicate themselves to make each other feel better.

Sad indeed.

Now I'm off to matters that really matter on this site.   ;-) 

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~What am I wrong about?

Show me. Back it up.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Hey cl....top of the

Hey cl....top of the morning to you too...what do you think about Pop-Up-Pelosi being caught in her web of lies?

She spins well too...and the lemmings love her for it.

You know about this...right?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Once again, you fail to back up your statements

Past pathetic.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

BT, It is you and QM that

BT,

It is you and QM that are starting the attacks. CL3X does a post showing that there are left wingers posing as conservatives who just might possibly be doing harm to NB.  She shows that one poster has multiple accounts in clear violation of the site rules.  And what do you and QM do?  You start making snarky and derisive comments to her and to anyone that stands up for what is posted.

 I have stopped listening to what you post ever since you stood up for QM when she made despicable comments about what a mother CL3X must be if she is posting on NB.  Only when you and your sycophantic protégé start attack people here who I consider friends will I post to you.

And I did not care for that derogative and racial remark you made to Rexdraconim last night, it is showing what a shallow and bigoted person you are.  You should be ashamed of what you said.  I do hope someone in the masthead take you to task for it.

 


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

Top of the Morning to you

Top of the Morning to you too Scuba.

Hope you day goes well for you also.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

~Says it all, right there

Still can't back up a single thing she says. Or does.

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Not answering and

Not answering and deflecting usually means that the person does not have a response to the truth.

The day does go well for me. Go raibh maith agat.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

Cad e mar ata tu scoob?

Ta la brea ann inniu. Ta me ag dul go bialann tranothna agus ta suil agam go dearmadim a seo seafoid.

 

Attacks...

It is the personal attacks that are not only unnecessary but are like poison being dispensed. I am not okay with that -- and nobody should be. There are consequences.

QM Defend's the "Good Name" of a Sneaky Liar

Your post has many false assertions and does not back up your claim that CL3X has impugned any right-wing groups.  You are making a false assertion in your ever present vicious zeal.

Good name?  Whose? Pelican's?  The good name of someone who is a sneaky liar, at best.

Wow.

You are right about one thing.  It has become necessary for us honest members of NB to save things and do what we can to stop lies.  You might try a little honesty yourself, at least intellectual honesty.

Go round up someone else besides your usual collaborator to justify the actions of pelicanmarsh and his never ending lies.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

having read everything

and I mean everything (Including your diaries at dkos and myleftnutmeg.com) and thought hard on it a couple days - I must conclude that I cannot trust how you've represented yourself.  Which is a shame because I posted to your 'getting to know you' thread in good faith.

That's all I have to say.

Me Too, Kata

My whole road on this started with posting in good faith on that same Forum, only to see all the lies and sneakiness emerge from it, the creepy email, the strange PMs, etc.

I am pretty open here, long-windedly open, blathering even.

As to QM saying that dishonesty is to be expected I will say this:

Expected? Maybe

Tolerated? NO!

We make the world what it is, everywhere we go, everything we do, the choices we make.

NB does not have to be a dishonest place, posters do not need to hide falsehoods behind their anonymity, people do not have to lie.  If they do, the onus of responsibility is on them for lying.

And on those who support and encourage those lies.

If we want things to get better, anywhere, we have to stand for something.  Morals and ethics start with honesty.  Communication is improved through trust, both given and received.  

When honesty becomes a non-issue, nobody wins.

"You can have Peace or you can have Freedom; just don't count on having both at the same time." - R.A.H

 "I'll take the harsh reality of liberty over the illusion of security...every time!" -me

rex

There are certainly many good, honorable ways to lead, and chose's investigative work of exposure was a great and very-much appreciated one.

At some point, however, we ultimately and most effectively lead by example, after we've exhausted all the more proactive and agressive methods.

I do think beers with Doc, Scuba, and all here that want to join, are in order. And candance can borrow a dollar from me and go cue-up a few of her favorite Mr. Shy songs (songs, not thongs) on the jukebox.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

not my favorite

You know that's not my favorite song of yours. Sadly, my fave is not on YouTube (hint hint) so scoob and rex would have to buy the album to hear it.

As for the beer, I'll take a cream soda and a table in the back.

 

"You know that's not my

"You know that's not my favorite song of yours."

Must you be so honest? I thought we were "friends". :p

(and "Loved", you mean?)

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

correct Shy

My favorite song of yours is "Be Good" which you never promote as much as you should.

 

katainkent

I too posted honestly in that forum in good faith, so you are not alone.

 

"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

this forum

I think this forum officially needs renaming:

HIGH DRAMA AND PERSONAL DUST-UPS FROM NEWSBUSTERS

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Hi, Mr. Shy ^_^

Some comic relief. Thanks. :)

Chose and Rex -- pls. check your PM box.

:) MrShy: Not to mention

:) MrShy: Not to mention "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

Ditto what Georgia said about providing some levity. Looks like the summer re-runs have started early this year. :)

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand

As Blonde would say, but

As Blonde would say, but altered slightly (if I may):

We need a better class of love, here. ©

I don't miss the craziness
The arguments that were endless
But I loved, yes I loved... the way you loved

I think that opening line sums up perfectly how I'll look back on this forum.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

LOL Love it Shy!!! When

LOL

Love it Shy!!!

When are we going to hook up for drinks again?


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

HEY SCOOBS :)

Free has suggested this, too. I'm game, so let me know...

Btw, this track (remix and album version) is available on iTunes™, which you can link to from my site.

:) 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Hey Shy, Quick digression

Hey Shy,

Quick digression from the thread.  Do you receive anything if someone buys your tune or album off of ITunes?   I would like to make sure you get any royalty due to you.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

Hey Scoobs

Yeah, I eventually get a check from a middle-man site that got my album on to iTunes, although their joint venture with iTunes expired. But I still check inventories and what I've sold through them (altough I haven't done this in a while... I'm a bad CFO of my own record label ;))

Also, modest royalty money trickles in from BMI, who I registered my publishing with. They track radio, TV use, etc.. 

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

My ears are tingling..

Hello all,

I have noticed that my name has been invoked. I guess that means I have to respond. 1st. Some clarification:

1. I am a Naval Healthcare Provider, not and Intelligence Specialist. My current duty is as A Security Manager/Clearance Coordinator (As my profile says.)

2. As a SM/CC, I was required to take the CNO Naval Security Manager's Course. My Guidelines come from SECNAVINST 5510.30 and CNO N09N2

3. My job, currently, is to certify Contractors, Government Service, Active Duty, and Reservists for security clearance. (Secret, Top Secret, Etc...) As well as assisting our investigators in conducting those background checks.

4. Because of what I do, I deal with people who tell untruths to me all the time. I've become pretty good at picking out a liar when I see one.

Now then, as pertains to Chose. I am impressed with the amount of work and critical deductive reasoning she has applied to this. From what I have read, I would have come to the same conclusions as she, and I'm glad she has that kind of determination.

I recognize that Chose has the protection and greater well-being of the NB community at heart, and I stand by that 100%.

What I will absolutely NOT do, is get into some snarky insult fest with my fellow NBers. Save that crap for the DailyKOS, and HuffPO.

To dborschjr68: CWO3, I gotta tell ya... you have been one sneaky guy. I don't know what your game is (Nor do I care) but you raise a LOT of red flags when it comes to honest dealings with people. Maybe you're just a paranoid, conspiracy Theorist. Maybe you were just having fun "poking the Neocons with a sharp stick" and bit off more than you can chew, and the reaction was a BIIIIT more than you care for. Whatever. IMHO you brought this on yourself. That's all I have to say to you.

Oh, except... Say Hi to Kristin for me.

As for everyone else. Let's just cool off. Have a beer or beverage of your choice and relax for a minute. There are so many puffed up, offended egos on this tread it's starting to look like a tank full of pufferfish after a three year old smacked the glass.

Whether or not you care for CL3x or her post, give her the respect that anyone who gives a damn about this site deserves. Oh, and everyone quit calling everyone else liars.

Cool?

Doc

"Wikipedia, the first resource of the lazy mind"- Me, 2009. The Williams411 incident

Doc, Sounds cool to me.

Doc,

Sounds cool to me. I'll raise a pint of Guinness to ya when I am in the bar later on this lovely Friday evening.


"The wrOng ONE was elected"

~Amen

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel. 

Koskids trolls have no honor.

They bring their lies here and when shot down by the truth, they lash out with vulgarities until they are banned.

They know when they are presented with the truth, and it angers them when people present the truth wherever they present propaganda.

The Syrius serial liar created a website slandering me and copying posts I have made in the forums.

I do not visit or post on Daily Kos because I do not need to be lied to. Koskids are compelled to post here because it is the only way for lies to be posted on this site. There is no other reason to come here. Do they think lies are being spread here? Then they would have the same compulsions we have. The internet is chock full of liars and crazies, no reason to visit.

They only visit in the hopes of spreading propaganda.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I have Learned A Lot . . .

. . . about a great many things by reading this thread and the posts.

Odd how writing styles are almost like voiceprints.  And more than a few people use multiple 'screen names' it seems.

Facinating.

Agreed

This thread has opened my eyes also, and now I am wary of this site.  Seems like a heck of a lot of paranoia.

~Thanks

 For IDing yourself, Plugs.

 

That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.