Welcome to the Next NewsBusters
We're finally here. Welcome to the new NewsBusters site design! Please have a look around and tell us your thoughts. There are still a few bugs to be worked out and we'll be squishing them like crazy so please post any you may see in this blog post. Credit for the design of our fancy new digs goes to NB member mrshy, aka Michael Miller who worked with us to come up with this new look.
There are a few features we're going to be turning on such as more editorial cartoons and also columns from writers like Cal Thomas, Michele Malkin and others but most of the heavy lifting is done already.
Thanks especially to those of our readers who helped us finance this upgrade. Your support was critical to the project!
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Thank you for the new digs Newsbuster team
Submitted by TerryWest on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:23am.
Nice work! Very clean, not cluttered, smooth to navigate, easy on the eyes.
I really like the CNS News addition as well..
I was thinking just the oppposite
Submitted by ckc1227 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:55am.
Way too much going on, especially on the home page. And something is conflicting with my browser(Firefox), because now the pages stick when scrolling up and down.
You can't just put up a comment--has to be a REPLY?
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:27am.
Plus--is the print smaller? I am legally blind. Ack--feel a headache starting.
Hi StarAZ, Most modern
Submitted by AJ on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:56pm.
Hi StarAZ, Most modern browsers allow you to zoom in, expanding text and imagery so that they are easier to see. You should be able to use this feature on Newsbusters.org and any other website you visit. In Firefox and Internet Explorer 8, you can increase, decrease, or reset the zoom by utilizing the options found under "View" and then the "Zoom" menu. I regularly use zoom as some of the intranet websites at my place of employment use really small text and I have two very large monitors.Sorry
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:01pm.
I was just coming back here as I do in a day and then thought, oh, ick, then I came anyhow. What you put here is too complicated for me--I am not a computer operator. I use the AOL explorer..I don't want big horsy type everyplace I go...would I get that ....
Also--I can't see a way to comment, only reply. I may try again tomorrow...and then you guys may be rid of me...don't cheer at once.
If you have a wheel on your mouse
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:11pm.
You can also hold down 'ctrl' and move the wheel forward and back to increase/decrease the font size.
Track feature
Submitted by ahusser on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:16pm.
After clicking on "Account" I used to be able to track my comments and if there were further comments on blogs I had participated in. I can't find it. Doesn't mean its not there but I don't see it.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
ACK!!!
Submitted by texasborngranny on Fri, 10/15/2010 - 12:43pm.
I soooooooooo agree!!!!
who's this mrshy, aka Something Something?? :p
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:35am.
Thanks Matthew!!
I very much enjoyed working on the redesign, and naturally there was an added incentive and vested interest for me in getting the opportunity to help take NB to the next level.
- Shy and Humble
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MrShy
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:48pm.
I'm a database guy, so I'm around website development a lot. This was surely a lot of work, and I speak from experience. Much appreciated!
KC
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 10/15/2010 - 1:01pm.
Thanks. This redesign and development/launch was about a year in the making. We're stilling working out a lot of the kinks, and slowly restoring many of the features that got lost in the shuffle.
- Shy Tries
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Cool beans.
Submitted by griv on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:07am.
Good deal Lucille.
Some problems
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:29am.
1. Access denied to inbox
2. Can not find the track function to see if there are any new responses on threads. The loss of this function will force unnecessary extra clicks and tie up the site.
3. Need to have the "Search" box choice at the top selection bar to mirror the selection bar at the bottom of the page.
4. Need to move the Save/Share bar with the twitter, facebook, etc. icons away from the Read More button as you get nuisance accidential wrong selections due to the close proximity of the buttons.
You're right.
Submitted by NeoKong on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:54am.
Where is the track button....?
I thought that was a PITA way
Submitted by Apache on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:35am.
I thought that was a PITA way to see replies in the first place. But it was the only way. It would be nice if one of these side boxes showed 'subscribed' topics activity. Often once a story is off the first page, I lose interest and stop looking at replies because it's not very convenient to check but also because the arguments get a little repetitious.
Concur, track feature is
Submitted by BD on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:52am.
Concur, track feature is missing and sorely missed. If the editors seek to save on disk space, that is one way to do it since long term conversations will dry up once a page leaves the front.
But I miss it.
No Track Button, No Peace!
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:40am.
After my initial sign-in, I always went to tracking FIRST on subsequent sign-ins throughout the day.
I think it's an essential tool!
Essential
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:49am.
Just noticed a couple of other comments describing the track feature as "essential." Yes, yes, yes!
And while I'm at it, I think the grey font is too light, and I'd like to see access to the PM inbox and "new message" notifications brought back to the home page. I finally found it using RD's method, but it's gone from being user-friendly to unfriendly.
Agree on Tracking & "new comments" count on Home Page
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:25pm.
Miss those too!
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Dan, you can still get to your inbox
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:32am.
Click on "My account" then scroll down to "Send this user a message" and click on that. It's a roundabout route, but it gets you there. :-) -DaveVote for the American in November
Thanks
Submitted by dscott on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:49pm.
Now if I could only see my message outbox. I liked the function where you knew when the message was read.
Dan,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:16pm.
LOL - I ain't quite got that one noodled out yet. -DaveVote for the American in November
this format is a bit
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:35pm.
this format is a bit foriegn. and where is teh speel check.
Dan, I figured out how to view sent PMs
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:40pm.
Once you have clicked on "Send this user a message" next click on the upper left tab called "Messages." Not yet sure how you can determine if it has been opened by the recipient. -DaveVote for the American in November
Track button
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:54pm.
When I enter a comment, I plead to the opinion gods that other people will reply. Better if they disagree, so we can have a few rounds of debate. For me, that's where a lot of the sheer fun is. So, obviously, I find the track button to be a great shortcut. Please ... if you can return it, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks Mr. Sheffield
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:35am.
I like the new design, but it takes some getting used to.
Ditto on what dscott said, tracking is an essential tool that most of the regulars use.
We would also like to see the comments and recent comments count at the bottom.
Can we expand the recent comments to the 10 (or more) is was before? And make it available on every page.
Also having the choice of how the thread is listed, was very nice. (70 comments, then a new page?)
Are we going to be able to have a signature?
We Are The 53%
More questions
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:58am.
Buddy list doesn't say if my buddy is online (I only have 1 friend but ....)
Also is it just me? Or do comments take up a LOT of space. I'm only seeing 2 to 4 in the window, have to scroll to the next ones pretty quickly.
Who's online? I liked seeing, "there are 48 users online and 2845 guests"
We Are The 53%
Toney
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:02am.
Also missing is the comment count under the articles on the homepage. This tells a user right away which articles are "hot".
- Shy Mint Julep
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Yes, the comment count (aka Troll Activity Meter) is a biggie...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:22am.
a real big biggie.
Comment count is shown on the Blog page
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:20am.
It seems like they have taken the old page and broken into 2 pages.
There is a lot of wasted space on either side of the page. feels like a 6 column newspaper, too narrow.
$30,000? Really?
T.A.M.
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:31pm.
Yes, we have a new name for the comment count!
We Are The 53%
Well, for a techno dummy like
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:48am.
Well, for a techno dummy like me......it's just more work and something new to get used to. I don't know what was wrong with your other set-up, to tell you the truth!!! And it's not as easy to do the posts and replies and keep track of that type of thing, as far as I can tell. I really didn't have any problems with your previous set-up.........it was easy to figure things out and read and find out who, where, why, how, and when things were being commented on...............
Maybe you're working on that??? I wouldn't know. As I said, I'm not the kind of guy who thinks that something has to be changed, or made 'new'., or whatever. I've always liked the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' attitude...................
Killa37
Submitted by Michael30 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:41am.
It takes some getting used to, but it was more than likely done for a reason.
Maybe by making the posting part a little more complicated the can stop the spammers. A few nights ago, some guy selling Nike's was firing two adds off every minute or so, probably screws with the server.
Also, there are alot of people who read and don't comment, so maybe the layout is helpful to them and they may become posters as well.
I know it looks odd, kinda Halloween-ish in the color scheme, but we'll get used to it.
They're also gonna work out the bugs as it progresses, computer programming and all that isn't easy. If it were, we'd all be millionaires in India by now.
Mike
Not liking it.
Submitted by NeoKong on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:48am.
What is with the giant empty sidebars...? They take up too much space with nothing.
The front page is too cluttered with stuff that is not information. My whole screen was filled but I could only see two stories.
Not liking the NB Extra in the middle of the page.
Personally I like too read left to right and not up and down. Smaller boxes side by side seem more efficient.
For example, when I click onto Mediaite or Hot Air or Daily Caller I can peruse at least a dozen stories without having to scroll down too far.
I only say this because you asked for feedback. I like the other format better. This format makes us dig for information. It seemed rather cluttered.
The story column is too big in my opinion.
Since you are re-working everything how about a quote button...? That would be nice.
I notice you removed the center text button too.
Don't like Save/ Preview. I like the words "Post" or "Submit Comment" better.
Just saying.
Photos and videos are too small or missing.
Submitted by Irene Flick on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:27am.
They are smaller than a postage stamp.
It seems a little to slick.
Maybe I am a hick.
As in 'too slick to do the
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:48am.
As in 'too slick to do the trick for a hick chick like Irene Flick'????? I'm not too quick, but if I had my pick, I'd kick this set-up quick, and go back to the other schtick!!!!
killa---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:14pm.
Great post!
Made me laugh!
MD
Yeah, but you're just my
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:10pm.
Yeah, but you're just my little lapdog!!!
232 pounds---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:27pm.
ARF, ARF, GRRRR!
MD
I just flat out don't like it.
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:17am.
Wow, I don't like it. Not at all. Lots of wasted, empty space, cramped articles, too wide sidebars, no count of comments/new comments (really used the old 'new comments' button a lot, A LOT), 'saved/share' bar is useless and crappy and 'in your face', oh, did I mention lots of wasted, empty space? Couldn't you have 'layered' everything, you know, like an article, then NewsBusted, then an article, then NB Picks, then an article, etc.?Sorry, all change isn't good. I felt kinda bad I couldn't give any money (been out of work for more than a year), now I'm glad I didn't, would feel cheated.
Just noticed, no 'Search' button up top, and when you find it (at the bottom) it doesn't give you any results. Oh, and did I mention the WASTED SPACE? Looking again at the Homepage, i am doubly disappointed, 3 columns, side by side, when all I (selfish me!) want is the articles. I rarely, rarely, use any links that are crammed in there, I haven't watched NewsBusted in ages, NB picks means nothing to me, Comments I frequently use. But no 'New Comments' button? Come on, did you guys do any market research?
Worst thing, we are now stuck with this format, once change arrives, it refuses to change. And where is the new content? Is the new NewsBusters all about style instead of substance? Do i sound bitter? Lol
Well I took another look, and am still very disappointed. I can find nothing to praise about the new look. I almost never use any of the links/items in the rightmost columns, and I don't think I am alone. Facebook? Amazon? Twitter? Link after link after link? No thank you. Oh, and did I mention all the wasted space?
Like the new layout. But it
Submitted by eaglescout1998 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:52am.
Like the new layout. But it will take some getting used to.
More importantly, I am glad I am finally able to log-in to the comments section again. I lost my password about a year ago and every time I attempted to reset the password, I was instructed to follow the instructions in an email that would never arrive.
Now if I can only reset my password to Hot Air.
Addendum: One thing I might add is that there is a lot of wasted space on my monitor. I have a widescreen monitor so it may not look the same to everyone, but the two dark orange areas take up a significant amount of real estate.
For those of us with vision
Submitted by ampul man on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:12am.
For those of us with vision imparements, the new format is more difficult to read (lighter and 'finer' font). As I am typing this post, the text is black, in sharp contrast and easy on the eyes.
I don't know what it will look like when it's posted.
Also, there is no explanation of what input is desired in the 'free email alerts' box. First, I just clicked on the button thinking that I would be directed to a sign up page, and got a 'page not found' message. Next, I inserted the word, Congress: also, a similar message. What gives?
In all fairness, I only spent a brief minute on the home page before coming here (to post), but so far, am disappointed.
FYI, using Firefox.
CNN, the Clinton News Network---Bill decides; Hill reports
Concur with ampul man
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:34am.
I'm fairly new to NB so take this for what it is worth...
Ampul man said, " For those of us with vision imparements,..." and I couldn/t agree more.
Not all of us here are in our 20's-30's anymore and whether we like it or not our vision changes over the years. As I am typing this, I can barely see the words (must be that arial typeface in the comments block ). The lettering is so small I can only think it was designed by a lawyer with a grudge against people who have not invested in his magnifying glass company. Please go back to using black lettering and get rid of this gray stuff.
Thanks... Take it for what it is worth to help improve.
Edited reply (0735 est):
P.S. Let me be the first to say:
This is not "Change we Can Believe In." - Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Just one more thing...
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:08am.
I hate to sound like a cheap version of Peter Falk as Colombo, but… Excuse me sir, I’m wondering why the replies to the posts are numbered?
Now this is also a little experiment on my part in which I am replying to my own post (number 22 at this time) which was a reply to a post by ampul man (post #21). I am curious as to whether this post gets numbered 23….
I grant you this is a minor point, but doesn’t it seem to make sense to only number the original user comment with replies to the members either having no numbers and simply indentations (preferred) or using a traditional outline numbering system for the sub-replys?
OK, OK… I know I’m sounding like liberal “process improvement over accomplishment” type, but would you mind addressing this important national problem? - Do it for the children!
Thank you.
Complaint Department
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:10pm.
I tried to "bold" this type for your reading pleasure Grumpy, but the way it looks now on my screen I did not succeed.
I also think the numbering system is odd. What purpose does it serve, exactly? It can't help us track comments with pinpoint accuracy because the numbers will change as comments are added. And why is the number in bold black as opposed to the orange of the comment title? For me, the black draws more attention, which makes it seem as if the number is more important than the title!
At this point I'm thinking I want my donation back! But maybe if the web masters address all of these complaints we'll eventually get our money's worth.
Miss911ninja -You beat me to it! :o)
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:22pm.
Please see my reply below... (I think it's below but who knows with this new numbering system, for all we know it could be somewhere over on the Daily Kos by now!)
miss911, It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they nixed the #s
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:25pm.
They are kind of annoying. -DaveVote for the American in November
Well, it's early Monday
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:36pm.
Well, it's early Monday morning here in Hawaii, and I STILL don't like it!!! Somebody tell me what was so wrong with the 'old' NB that they had to 'change' it???? And, yeah..........we're supposed to go LOOKING for the new comments???
I used to post a little on another website, but it was similiar to this, and when I found NB, I enjoyed the simplicity of it all...............I guess it was too simple for the webmasters, or something.
Just one more thing (Pt.2)
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:16pm.
Are you deliberately trying to play mind games with us?
You have already caused me to break two of my basic rules… (1) Never reply to your own post… use the edit button instead, and (2) Never take Maalox before 10 am (local).
It wasn’t 30 minutes ago that my reply to ampul mans post #21 was assigned #22 and my experiment was supposed to be numbered 23… Who knows what it is by now!.
(Sigh) Let me explain how numbering works in the civilized world:
The Original Story (Post) is presented by NB
The first User Comment on the original story is assigned the Number (or I. for those of you who prefer using Roman Numerals when figuring your taxes).
The Reply to User Comment #1 is assigned the # 1.1 (or 1 (a) ) or some other easily deciphered alpha/numeric configuration.
Subsequent replies to the original story are assigned whole numbers (in sequence of their occurrences – such as 2, 3, 4, etc.),
Replies to a User Comment are numbered using the whole number reply (i.e.: 1.1 is followed by 1.2 is followed by 1.3…)
Replies to a reply are numbered using the same logic (i.e.: 1.1.1 - 1.1.2 - 1.1.3 – and on and on).
I hope this helps.
P.S. Question: Why does the DTG (date/time group) change when making edits to ones own post… shouldn’t the DTG be the same as the original?
P.P.S. Please don’t make me break another personal rule: “Never take a drink until at least noon (local time). :o]
I'm with Grumpy*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:19pm.
Everything Grumpy said including the PS and the PS2. And watch the post # change again. Shy, if I ever run into you, you will never need another haircut.
Thanks cajun2 - And all
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:42pm.
You know who I really feel sorry for with this new design? The person who made a great point about the Original Article, but their comment won't be seen if it shows up on "Page 2" or beyond. (By the way the numbering system starts over with #1 on subsequent pages).
Here's a serious question for all: (Note: USE THIS REPLY as an EXAMPLE) What is to prevent someone who comes along just like I have done here... Instead of posting their own comment on the original subject (in fair order), just start posting posting as a reply to someone else' comment? For instance, what if I had made this a reply to the very first post... wouldn't that mean this comment would be viewed as the second comment on the entire thread? That seem's a bit unfair to all and certainly impedes polite discourse.
I'm sorry to all who have had their comments bumped to page two just to point-out this glaring error.
Grumpy in Arizona
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:29pm.
The last time they had to do an upgrade of some kind, the comment pages were split up (according to some commenting limit) too, but they corrected that. They'll fix it again, I'm sure.
We're in a live beta phase here, I guess. Things will improve.
I also think the font/type for the comments should return to "san serif" (simple, like helvetica) and not remain this serif-y, fancy font -- which is suitable for articles, yes, but not here.
- Shy, NB Damage Controller
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Funny, when I enlarge the text on my Mac
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:11am.
As I scroll down, it reverts back to the old size. I have never had this problem before. In-fact I just tried it elsewhere, with no problems?
I like the way it looks, but like everyone else, I would like to see NB's old features back in place. It is what makes this site special.
Can't Survive
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:27pm.
I have a Mac too, and I was wondering if that's why the bold and italics features wouldn't work for me. I'm only half computer literate, so I thought it might have something to do with my browser. I switched over to Firefox from Safari, but the Gods didn't like that and switched me back to Safari automatically!
I just don't think I can survive without the ability to bold, and especially to use italics. :- (
Mine works pretty good Miss Ninja
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:34pm.
Open FF, go to the Firefox button (mine is on the top left) hit Preferences, then go to Advanced, and check the box that ask's if FF is your default Browser, then check it.
Real quick
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:56am.
because I'm heading off to work. Much of the criticism above is valid and a look more like what's shown in the BLOGS section would please most users- with the addition of the Recent Comments bar on every page, along with the Who's Onliine bar.
My concerns are largely with the comment section. Ckeditor allows many more features than what we have here, and I'd like to see those features added.
Scuba Dude created a forum thread last nite about this and there are many more comments there.
Appearance-wise though, I like it. Nice job Shy-man. Good luck NB! And don't take it personally...
BKeyser....like features added...
Submitted by ww thumper on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:42pm.
Hey I agree...I hate to moan....I hardly ever moan ;-) but a LARGER,DARKER FONT! would be GREAT! Also SPELLL CHACKERR would be tirifick! I have 12 yrs of College behind me , but I am also OLD and GEZZERY, and sometimes I Kant spll my own name ;-)
My biggist grype is the SMALL, LIGHT FONT! I typed all this in BOLD font, now I'll see if it comes out in bold in the post. If it don't you guyz who built this new site needs to do some more work on it.... WW
MY PASTOR SAYS "GOD BLESS AMERICA"!!!I ASK " GOD SAVE AMERICA, AND RESTORE OUR AMERICAN HONOR!"
Jeez thump..........ya reely
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 3:01am.
Jeez thump..........ya reely showd yer tru inteligens with dat post!!! I alwayz thot u wer a prety smart gy, but it's evidnt dat youv been foolin a lot of us her on de websit. But, to be onest, now I don feel to bad, becaz I'm not the sharpst nife in the drawr, so you no the old saing.....'mizery luvs cumpany'....................
Sind...................Killa from Ha-wy-ah!!!!
killa & ww thumper
Submitted by MrShy on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 3:56am.
I am to blame for the lighter font.... I designed this site. However, the size of the font should be larger, I agree. And the comment font should be simple and not fancy like the articles.
Actually, I think the comment font/type should be like it was on the old site, and the article can be the more elegant light/fancy font, which was sort of my design.
- Very Sleepy Shy
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NewsBusted
Submitted by EdCoyne on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:40am.
Can't seem to watch NewsBusted, like I did in the past.
Also, why Drupal over WordPress? Just curious.
Ed Coyne
www.FoundersQuotes.com
Ed Coyne
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Looks Good, But....
Submitted by MichaelPaladin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:46am.
I would like it if the site would adjust itself to whatever monitor (screen resolution) people are using. Basically I have a 24" monitor with a resolution of 1920x1200. so for me right now its a band down the middle and lots of wasted room on the sides.
Page Is Way Too Small Too Read
Submitted by packman on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:16am.
I have to agree. I have a thin page in the middle of my computer screen with a lot of wasted space on both sides. Not sure why it was designed this way? But it definitely makes everything harder to read as all the text is now much smaller. Give us older readers a break huh? At least the old pages were easy to read. Still not sure why such a makeover was needed, as I liked what you had before...so why change it?
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Ditto that.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:29am.
Same thing here.
With the old NewsBusters (NB
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:05am.
With the old NewsBusters (NB v1) a person who posted a comment on an article could keep up with new comments on the article via their account information. It would indicate how many new comments had been made since the participant left their comment and new comments would be indicated by " *NEW ". However I do not see that option on the new NewsBusters (NB v2). Is that available someplace else and if not, would it be possible to add it to NB v2?
Secondly, are the older articles still available? If so, how do we go back a page to see them? The only thing at the bottom of the opening page is the option of "more blogs" and not "more articles" or "previous articles."
The first thing I noticed is
Submitted by Chris M-G on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:20am.
The first thing I noticed is a minor gripe compared to some of the previous comments, but I am accustomed to tabbing all of the articles I will be reading, and I do that by right clicking the large black article name text. (uh oh, was that racist?) The browser's link preview is correct, but the context menu treats it like an image. I have to use the tiny "Read More" link at the bottom to actually reach the page link using that method.
Read more placement is a tad
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:25am.
Read more placement is a tad too close to the box below it.........other than that.....so far.....soooo good.
Barack_Must_Go.....
My first impressions
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:30am.
Since you asked - my first impressions:
scrolling - the comments page used to be ONE PAGE ONLY - now they are divided into pages. Until TPTB put in a "next page button" on my keyboard, then keep all comments on one page, so all I have to do is use my page down button.
I very much dislike having to precisely place my mouse over a very small "next page" link. For that reason, I will probably not scroll to page 2, etc. to read all the comments.
Commenting on my post above
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:38am.
The first line of "Since you asked..." is hard to read - shows up as gray, not black.
I like the font used in the bulleted sections - I can read this font very easily - no eye strain.
Drudge Report uses the entire screen, including a widescreen display. Can't the NewsBusters site do something similar?
I'd also like a spellcheck option.
Spell check
Submitted by Chaitealover on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:23pm.
I use Firefox, but I think this works in most, if not all, browsers:
Click on "Switch to plain text editor" under the comment box and it will change the box to one that shows misspelled words underlined in red. Right click on the misspelled words for suggestions for the correct word or the ability to add the correctly spelled, but unknown to the dictionary, word to your computer for the next time you use it.
Your "since you asked" line isn't gray on my screen. Have you set your browser to use the site's colors or something you set up in tools/options/content/colors?
Hi Chai
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:48pm.
Your spellcheck suggestion does not work in IE8, but thanks for suggesting it.
Since other comments have noted the gray text, I'm not the only one seeing it, nor the only one who dislikes it.
Hey chai...thanks for the
Submitted by bigtimer on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 3:17am.
Hey chai...thanks for the tip...trying it out right now and it seems to be working...good tip to close the night off with, will see if this posts ok now as it has a yellow outline around the box this post is in.'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Smells like orange.
Submitted by Apache on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:30am.
Smells like orange.
The new layout looks nice,
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:32am.
The new layout looks nice, but I found a bug. I click on the NewsBusted video the video will not play. The browser window tab holding NewsBusters goes while and spins its wheels indefinitately.
Firefox 3.6.3 on Windows XP sp3.
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
I'd like
Submitted by kronological on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:02am.
a scratch and sniff option.
Looks great, glad to see the
Submitted by wiwf on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:03am.
Looks great, glad to see the changes!Not a fan of the new narrow
Submitted by irishguy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:05am.
Not a fan of the new narrow layout or the grey type.
found another little glitch
Submitted by Iron Tigers Vet on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:13am.
other blog sites are not linked to the actual websites (home pages). click any of the links and it redirects back to NB home page.
Another bug?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:14am.
When I post, er save, the next screen takes me to the bottom of the page, instead of my new post?
I do love the comment box at the bottom of the page though, saves a page.
new comments old comments
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:17am.
Interesting look. I hope you guys will have the "# new comments" back because that's been very helpful.
As for the $30,000 that some might be wondering about, it's not just on the appearance that someone had commented on. Working in a tech environment gives me a bit of insight on the money costs. Servers and hard drives(or hard drive arrays which are necessary for the amount of info and etc a place like this has) aren't cheap if they were getting new equipment. Most servers and hard drive arrays will cost in the neighborhood of around $10-20,000. Then there's maintenance contracts depending on which brand of server they got, be it Dell, HP, and so on, those are typically in the thousands as well, $1500 or more for a 3 year service contract depending on the desired service. Finally, software adds to the cost and the support for that as well.
I've been down this road before at work whenever we get new things, be it software or hardware or both and there's always a breaking-in period(or for those in the military, a shakedown).
We as users should be patient because the breaking-in time is always a stressful time for those who have to maintain/operate this sort of thing.
Technology and software has come a long ways in the last 20 years, but the standard problems never went away. Just my two cents before currency correction.
-Jon
NEW FORMAT
Submitted by mhonesty on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:17am.
There is way too much blank white space on the right side of the page.
All I can think of...
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:25am.
After reading comments (which I agree with mostly) is "New Coke".
Perfect Gary
Submitted by shawn. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:52am.
Hopefully New Coke has not settled on the final formula yet.Ruk, Ain't nothing ever made was as bad as New Coke
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:53pm.
LOL - Trust me. I live in Atlanta. I know these things. Even if (God forbid) NB were to ditch Drupal and switch over to the hideous format that HotAir uses, it still wouldn't be as bad as New Coke. -DaveVote for the American in November
A few nits to pick
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:39am.
I agree with others who have complained about the "Read More" link being crowded by the "Share/Save" bar. Too easy to overshoot Read More and have that (annoying) share box jump out at you. Move the Share/Save bar to the left margin. Still accessible to those who want it but out of the way of what most readers want to hit.
What?!!? No more comments counter for articles?!? Foul! That was a very useful reference that enabled a reader to quickly spot if any new posts had appeared since the article was last visited. If NB does nothing else to change the changes, please add back that feature!
Also miss the Track function for user account. Also useful but now MIA.
Haven't navigated around the new design enough yet to pick any more nits.
Don't mean to be too critical because I enjoy NB, but you asked....
Replying to myself here
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:56am.
OK. I just now found the comments counters on the BLOG page. Weird. But I'd still like that feature on the HOME page with new articles.
The new format and layout is going to take a while to disgest while I navigate around figuring out the user interface. But right now I'm getting the feeling this was more "change for change's sake" than anything else. I donated -- and I don't regret doing so -- but early in the "new" experience I'm not seeing a whole lot of bang for the buck. Sorry.
Perhaps
Submitted by JustAl on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:43am.
I echo most of the comments above, "if it ain't broke."
Maybe if you let us know what your goals were in implementing the change people whould be more understanding. As it is, it looks like change for the sake of change with no visible improvments and several functions lost as per the comments above.
I am relieved that you didn't write that that you "Hope we enjoy the Change."
A Request
Submitted by Gothampc on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:51am.
If possible, on the home page, can we get a comment counter for each blog that tells how many comments have been made? I think it was there under the old style and it saved time to know when someone had posted a comment to the blogs.
It's great
Submitted by stormy67 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:59am.
I love the new layout. It's clean and professional. Newsbusters has "grown up."
People, give it a week or two and I promise you will wonder how you ever made it through the old one. It's change you can believe in.
My only question is what's a "wroter?"
"...from wroters like Cal Thomas, Michele Malkin "
"My only question is what's a 'wroter?'"
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:36am.
LOL- It's what gets typed after 2 am on very little sleep. -DaveVote for the American in November
Funny!
Submitted by stormy67 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:53pm.
Funny!
Looks Good But......
Submitted by Radioman on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:11am.
Yes, the new changes have a good look but it's the content that counts!!! I don't know of anyone who visits a site because it looks good! In my radio days, I once did an early morning TV newscast. The news director was all excited about a new set being planned. After many bucks, it finally made its appearance. Yes, it was nicer but I don't recall anyone saying they were watching the channel because of the new look. Remember It will always be content, content, content, even though many seem obsessed by change when new is always better !!!
Why Do People Come to the Site?
Submitted by tatej on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:13am.
The articles. But with the new design, the articles have seemingly been relegated to an afterthought. The main body is now divided into three columns, with the articles using only 1/3 of the main body. The middle third seems to be links, while the right third seems to be "other stuff". Then with the huge empty borders on the left and right, the main body only takes up 3/5 of the screen. So essentially, the reason people visit the site - the articles - only occupy 1/5 of the screen. Not a fan of the redesign.
We will be working on this
Submitted by Matthew Sheffield on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:18pm.
A fluid-width version of the page. Most websites do not have this however it has been a widely requested feature on NB and one that we've had for a while.
Fixed-width designs are easier to plan around so we launched with that for now.
Missing Links
Submitted by alkabiir on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:27am.
Most of the "Other Sites/Blogs" links return to the NewsBusters Home page as does the "See All" Link for Blogs.
new format
Submitted by Chaitealover on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:38am.
I liked the old format so much I was always using it as an example to other blogs. This one, not so much. I always used the "track" function, I even have it bookmarked by itself. And the notation of new vs total comments is important, who has time to re-read everything to see if anyone added new information? I'm most interested in the articles, they should be the most prominent thing on the page, not just a small part of it. I'd love it if the "Read More" link led to the next line in the article instead of back to the top.
Ipad
Submitted by jerzeepeg on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:46am.
I was so hoping I would be able to watch videos on my iPad. Any chance of an iPad app coming?I don't know much about Drupal, and I know just enough C++
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:55am.
...to be hideously dangerous, so I'm not sure how much "modification" is possible here, but here goes. 1) There needs to be a little more vertical separation between the "read more" link and the "share/save" link, as they are too close together. 2) Don't really miss the # of guests dislplay, but the "whose online" was nice, and it would be nice to see it on every page. 3) I like the fact that the "recent comments" list can be expanded, but only having five on the front page isn't enough, as if you go to refill your coffee cup, they have all been replaced once you return. It would also be nice to see this on every page, as it was before. 4) I, like most here, miss the "tracking" feature, as it helps to quickly ID trolls and possible plants. It also helps in following up on previous comments, even thpough I don't have as much time for that as I used to. 5) The "Save" button needs to be renaimed "Post." I mean, if it ain't broke... That pretty much is it for my list of nits at the moment. I do like the expandable text window (when I can actually get the rich text editor working - but that is more on my end then NB's). -Dave
Vote for the American in November
I typed the above in the plain text box, and as u can see...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:03am.
...it lost its formatting somewhere between there and its being posted. (It may be something on my end.) -DaveVote for the American in November
not liking the gray font
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:11am.
So if I switch to the plain text editor, I will get the easier to read black font? - testing, testing
test #2
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:12am.
Didn't work - I only got the black font when using a bullet format:
Dave - ?
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:13am.
How did you format your text in comment #58 to get the black font?
mom_rox, I wrote it in the plain text editor
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:22am.
I first noticed that last night, as if I post from the rich text editor, it looks the same as everyone else's. For some reason, this morning I can't get the rich text editor working at all, but that is probably due to the fact that I am short a RAM card, which I knocked loose when replacing my Ethernet port recently, and it isn't being picked up when I reboot. I am currently using Opera for browsing with all the bells and whistles turned off, as Firefox is too much of a memory hog. -DaveVote for the American in November
I agree with all of your points and...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:23pm.
would like to add a few others...The text size in general is a bit small and the gray colored comments text is way too light in color...It's harder to read. As you and others have said, the "tracking" feature was great to have and I'd really like to see that back. Also, the short list of recent comments is frustrating...It needs to be expanded...Not nearly enough recent comments are listed. And why has the comment counter been removed from the home page and now can only be found under "Blogs" ? Don't like that.
As others here have already rightly said, a good deal of what has been changed falls under the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" category. Some of the changes are good, but a number of them weren't necessary and are proving to be annoying and frustrating. One additional issue...When I click on "inbox" on the home page, I am still getting the "Access Denied" page...Will it remain that way? Right now the way I get to my inbox is to have to go to My Account, click on "send this user a message", and then I finally can access my messages...What's the point of having an inbox link on the home page if we are going to only see "Access Denied"? Is this a bug? I hope so, because otherwise I don't understand why we still have an inbox link...It doesn't make any sense. For right now, that's about it. I know this overhaul took a lot of time (and money), and I definitely appreciate everyone's hard work, but I would like to see the questions and problems that I and others have raised here, addressed.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
PS, You can still get to your inbox
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:58pm.
Over to the right, click on "My account," then scroll down and click on "Send this user a message" and it will take you right to it. Haven't figured out how to get to the "Sent items" list yet, but I'll let you know if I happen to stumble across it. -DaveVote for the American in November
RD...Accessing the inbox...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:43pm.
Thanks for your help...Someone last night suggested what you did, and that's how I've been doing it so far...I hope this isn't the way we are supposed to get into our inbox from now on...It makes no sense to give an inbox link button, only to get "Access Denied" when you click on it.
Please do let me know if you figure out how to get to "sent items"...That would be nice to be able to do.
Update! Inbox is working! I just clicked on "inbox", and it took me right to it! YAY! Also, the sent messages are on the same page as the received messages...They appear one after the other as you read down the page, so there is not a separate button to click on to get "sent messages".
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
PS,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:44pm.
After you have clicked on "Send this user a message" look to the top left and click on "Messages," which appears just to the left of "Write new message" and you will see your sent items. Still don't know how to tell if it has been read by the recipient as yet, but at least you can see the messages. -DaveVote for the American in November
Patience.
Submitted by ohiochili on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:17am.
Patience.
When clicking on "Read" after
Submitted by Dan Diego on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:34am.
When clicking on "Read" after dodging the share/save pop-up I end up at "post new comment"? My left/right keys don't work in comment box
Any way to switch out the "Save" and "Preview" buttons?
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:35am.
I keep hitting Preview by mistake. -DaveVote for the American in November
Please.............. for us half blind folks.....
Submitted by JTP on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:42am.
Darker text ..
Comment count would be nice too.
Also, the title line could be changed back to black
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:45am.
LOL - Sorry, but that in-your-face red color is not a little rude - especially early in the morning. -DaveVote for the American in November
Glitch
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:50am.
Don't know if it's a temporary glitch or what but I just noticed that several articles on the BLOG pages show a comment count, but when I click it to read them it takes me to the Post New Comment box. There aren't any other comments displayed.
???
Addendum: I just noticed that when comments span more than one page the numbering scheme starts over at 1. That's confusing. It makes it appear at first that you accidentally posted to the wrong thread if your new comment gets posted to a new page.
Nice work, Matt
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:52am.
I know this was a long drawn out process and a huge amount of work.
Okay, a couple of suggestions.
Thanks again for a great job, I'm sure it will work great once the kinks are ironed out.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Even Worse
Submitted by Clyde Gatton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:46pm.
Hey Blonde!
Even worse, the numbering is page specific, and changes not only when a reply is done above any comment, but also restarts at 1 when they reach a new page point!
Totally off the track: Sean got back from Iraq last Thursday/Friday. I no longer have any sons out of country.
V/R
Clyde
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
Great news, Clyde.
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:13pm.
Hi to Bishop from yours truly....and a hearty welcome home from the sandbox, too.
Miss his *ahem* beating of the trolls.
I kind of like the number function, but it needs to be fixed to the post, IMO. That way, if the thread gets to far gone to the right....we can say "hey #42, over here" on a new line.
I have great faith the NB staff will get it all tweaked out, tho.
Nice to see you here, Clyde.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
J, definitely agree about the "*New" tag
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:59pm.
It needs to be red, too, so it stands out, and the title line returned to black as before.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Sorry but this new format
Submitted by ParalegalGoddess on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 11:58am.
Sorry but this new format Sucks! The font is too light - should be darker. No tracking of comments. Your links aren't working properly - tried to "see all" of other sites but just brings up homepage. the pictures are smaller. clicking on the hot topics does nothing. Really, you should ask for your money back.
Full article in RSS feed
Submitted by Wonder95 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:19pm.
I usually read the articles from Google Reader, but now you only have the teaser in the RSS feed. Last time you made a change I had to request that this be fixed, too. Could you please put the entire article in the RSS feed?
Thanks.
Search function disabled
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:24pm.
The pages seem to load pretty fast, though....which is GREAT!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I have noticed that there are articles in the "BLOGS" section...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:28pm.
...that don't show up on the front page "HOME" section. -DaveVote for the American in November
Well...
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:33pm.
Aesthetically, the new site is great. Sure it'll take a little time to get used to, but it's a nice improvement. Would still like my tracking button back, but I suspect that will come with time.
Love the name change feature.
Mike "MrShy" Miller - nice work! I'm impressed.
Ted
The thing that made NewsBusters unique is gone.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 12:35pm.
The new look is nice and spiffy but the thing that made NewsBusters stand out is gone.
I could go to any website on the internet and have my comment buried along with hundreds of others. What made NewsBusters unique was the ability to respond both to the blog contributor and other posters. Then come back later and find what had been posted in the blog without having to reread everything that was already written. Nor did I have to try and remember exactly what I had responded to a few days ago, it was all there in the tracking page.
Many websites have replies placed under a post, but the tracking function is what set NewsBusters apart. You got a new spiffy look but without the tracking function, Newsbusters has been fudamentally altered.
I hate to say it but if this is the final product, you have taken the wind out of my sails. I am not enthused about posting and without the tracking function and history of old comments, my troll bashing abilities are completely negated, And I really liked troll bashing. Nothing more fun than exposing a liberal troll in a lie. That is near impossible now.
~Amen to that, JWF
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:03pm.
If it stays this way NB is toast, as far as commenting goes. The place will be infested with trolls and retreads and no way expose them.
HuffPost has the tracking
Submitted by NL207 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:42pm.
HuffPost has the tracking feature too. It's an absolute necessity when the blog is busy.
So Many Comments, So Little Space/Time
Submitted by Clyde Gatton on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:02pm.
As a programmer, I understand the difficulties of making everything work “out of the box.”
As a designer, I understand the difficulties of pleasing everyone even part of the time.
As a user, I don’t like seeing things changed that worked for me, because a designer wants “change.”
That being said, here is my take on the new NB design.
The first thing I saw when I entered last night was the home page layout, and I was not pleased. Here are the reasons:
Here’s my take on fixing it.
Move the following center and right column items into the right side background, from top to bottom, adjust width as required
Move the remaining center and right column items into the left side background, from top to bottom, adjust widths as required/desired
Benefits are
Next I navigated to the account page and logged in. Oh, boy! As others have noted, the loss of the tracking tab is really disappointing, and serves no discernable purpose, nor does the loss of the ability to preset a signature. The latter is particularly egregious, in that it was replaced with the ability to upload a picture. While a picture may allow you to identify us in a police lineup, our signatures provide you with a snapshot look at our thoughts, and that’s really what this site is about. Then, to find the user control panel, I had to scroll to the bottom and look for the smallest box on the page! That was really unacceptable. When I go to my account I want to make changes, check on things of concern to only me, etc. While Jodi is easy on the eyes, this is not her place, lol. Implementing the suggestions from the home page discussion will fix all issues I have here, with the exception of the missing signature and tracking tab.
Finally I looked at the Blogs and Forum tabs. Once again, implementing the earlier suggestions will fix most of my issues here, since they are in large part the same ones, namely clutter and lack of space for the purpose of the site. Additionally I’d like some consistency in the layout. An initial forum entry and a blog posting are functionally equivalent, and should look the same, IMHO, as should the comments/replies. Specifically, and if nothing else, I would like to see the ‘on line’ button seen on the forum comments to be also seen on the Blog comments. I assume this works as a little glow indicator of the status of the poster, and as such might alleviate the requests for a ‘who’s online’ listing. It would for me, since in general I want to know if the poster of a particular comment is online, not a complete listing of all who are online. As such, I would also like a green/red, online/offline glow…and maybe a lobster dinner for my birthday… :o)
V/R
Clyde Gatton
PS Make it ‘Post,’ not ‘Save’ please
PPS “Dammit Jim! I’m a doctor, not a bricklayer!” In this case make it…never mind. However, open new links in their own window!! I just lost this entire post because the “More information about formatting options” link opened in the same window and obliterated the entire thing! NOT GOOD!
"...the aspirants to tyranny are either the...men of the state, who in democracies are demagogues,... or those who hold great offices, and have a long tenure.." - Aristotle, Politics, c350BC
I like these ideas Clyde
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:55pm.
Would make me feel right at home
NB Thread - Gone but not Forgotten
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:02pm.
I'm simply posting this to let people know they have to go to "more blogs" to see it... and then they have to go to "page 2" for comments to see this one.
I believe NB has a big mistake on their hands.
P.S. " I picked a bad day to give-up drinking" - McClusky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane
New web design: Ugh
Submitted by Captain Kirock on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:20pm.
This is the third time I have tried to use the new website and I have to say I do not like it.
1. Where is the track feature?
2. How do I access previous pages? The old site had page numbers at the bottom which were very useful.
3. Why is there so much dead space on the right and left of the margins of the screen? Is this just my browser settings or are these spaces reserved for ads?
4. Articles need to be more prominent.
5. Why is the font so small?
6. Where aren't the number of comments listed for each article?
7. Can someone explain the difference between the home page and the blogs?
Overall, I like the new NewsBusters site design
Submitted by Conservator on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:15pm.
However, I agree with those who dislike the comment section as well. In addition, I miss that links are no-longer available via the print view option. I enjoy reading articles at NewsBusters and often copied articles which I referenced often.
Conservator
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:07pm.
They are working on making the site expandable to meet your browser width, which will go a long way toward making the comments more like they used to be.
They'll also do various tweaks to the article-commenting function/appearance of the site in general -- something that means a lot to the users here, we know -- in the coming weeks.
- Shy Funk
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
~I'm not the only one!
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 1:45pm.
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that the articles don't get the kind of prominence they should. Being squeezed over into a little space on the left makes them look like an afterthought. They should get 60% of the available space and be placed prominently in the center. The sidebars filled with other crap we hardly use should be on each side so all the crap we hardly use isn't so jammed together that we can't pick out what we want.
Again:
1. Font too small and light.
2. Need Recent Comments on every page.
3. Need Track function.
4. New comments link for the articles.
5. Need the archived comments for past articles!!
6. Way too much wasted space.
7. Ugly colors. Sorry, but it is. Ugly.
If the site had worked/looked like this when I first started reading it I wouldn't have stuck around.
to be continued*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:10pm.
add to chose
8. watch the post # change with each new post( makes it difficult to follow a debate)
9. second page starts of with #1 instead of #71
10. The text is too small for people with bifocals( hence the bold)
11. No offense to Blonde, but I hate all this ORANGE!
12. Most of the prominant boxes are irrelevant to most of us and take up too much space.
I don't feel right complaining on the new format because I have not been an NB member long enough to have that privilege. But if this is the final product of the new format it will lose the unique draw NB had over dozens of other sites that all basically look the same. ;-(
~.....
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:27pm.
13. Too few comments per page
14. No option to change the thread format to Oldest First. Having the new ones first completely screws up the flow as you scroll down the thread to read the comments.
cajun2
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:18pm.
NB's not ignoring these comments and complaints -- a majority of which revolve around articles and comments, naturally -- and things will improve.
As I point out above, they're working on returning the site to being expandable according to your browser, which will make a whale of a difference (It's really at the heart of all the anxieties here, like "what's all this wasted space?", "articles and comments are squeezed out", etc..) But the coding/development for that takes some time.
As to the colors and so much orange (and brown, on the outside :p) and the site looking "boxy", again, I think the fluid/expandable version will make the site much more pleasing to the eye, and intuitive and enjoyable for NB users.
I also think the comment headlines are unnecessarily big, and don't need to be orange. I designed the core of the site, but was not involved in the comment section reformatting. "I take no responsibility for that." :p
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Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:30pm.
Temporarily safe from scalping. I assume your post to mean that many of the new features will be "tweaked" as time allows. I will try to be patient tho not a fav at my age.
Here is another complaint maybe not in your dept. Mathew says that other writers will be contributors, like Cal Thomas and Michelle Malkin. If their articles are regarding Media Bias then thats fine. If they are just throwing in columns from other sites that will only again deminish what NB is all about, Exposing Liberal Media Bias., which is what made NB so enticing. To throw in other contributors with a multitude of other issues, there are thousands of other web sites that do that.
cajun2
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:55pm.
To the former, to the best of my inside knowledge, yes, they are feverishly working to fix the nuts and bolts of the user-important features -- mainly, articles and our responses/comments to them, and our great debate threads and how they look/function.
To the latter, no, this is not my department. However, I was somewhat aware of NB needing to eventually integrate a bit more with these other sites, as we are increasingly getting so much attention on major media outlets. I, along with the NB admins, am aware of what makes this site unique, and balancing inevitable change and needed upgrading to play with the big boys whilst not compromising what sets us apart, is not an easy feat.
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SORRY
Submitted by paulnashtn on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:01pm.
New format SUCKS D-
One thing on the old NB that
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:21pm.
One thing on the old NB that has been carried over to the new NB is finding the "new" comments when you have more than 1 page of comments. Unless you had your preference set for showing the newest first (which I did not) you had to scroll through all the comments on the following pages and try to eyeball the newest ones.
Is it possible for the new comments to reset after you left the blog and not when you go to the next page?
Just wondering.
also linking
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 10:26pm.
doesn't go to the comment if it's on the second, third, fourth page.
It goes to the article. which really sucks if the post is number 71 now.
We Are The 53%
NO change
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:39pm.
At 71 I don't like change. This change ain't for the better. We should have stuck with the old addage "If it ain.t broke don't fix it". The old system wasn't broke.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Coco~
Submitted by GG_NB on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:26pm.
I'm not 71, and I don't like change either. ;)
Although I can appreciate all the hard work/time/tinkering involved with a massive undertaking like this and am thinking this is not the final product...
I do have to say that I REALLY. REALLY, REALLY miss the tracking function (I'm kind of lost without that organizational tool). I also do miss being able to see the new comments/PM notices on the Home Page, as this saves a lot of time. And although I don't personally have a problem with the colors/font size, I do think complaints from those who need a larger font size (in the blogs) should be taken seriously.
For me, if you get a tracker function on (similar to the old one) and WIDEN the blog/article section to what should be its due space, I feel like that would solve two of the biggest concerns for many.
It would be true to say that so far, I like the old format much better. But in full disclosure, I'm also an old-fashioned type of girl who would probably still be using a typewriter -- if I could! :)
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
Fonts
Submitted by Chandler on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:48pm.
Fonts could be bigger and blacker!
New Web Site
Submitted by TVDave on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:49pm.
A couple of comments...I get lots of errors on my PDA when I try to view the site. I cannot load any pages on my Blackberry.
Lastly, I noticed that I spent a lot less time viewing the web site. Maybe its because I am unaccoustomed to the new design. Maybe it's because there are less front-page stories. Maybe it's because I feel like I'm wading through a lot of clutter. Regardless, I would be really concerned if you notice your time spent viewing decreases dramatically.
Good luck de-bugging and fine tuning!!!
Go back to the old
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:54pm.
We should have stuck with the old addage "If it ain't broke don't fix it". The old system wasn't broke and this new one is broke.
Why do we have pop-ups for facebook and twits akk the time?
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
coco
Submitted by mom_rox on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:23pm.
I'm not seeing the pop-ups. Reply with the browser and version you are using, and perhaps someone here can help.
Needs work
Submitted by griv on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 2:57pm.
I would have waited a little while before introducing a buggy version of a site that your readers paid for. IMHO
On extended keyboard, left/right arrow keys disabled...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:35pm.
when typing in subject line? But keys work in body of comment section after clicking several times.
Mac OSX 10.6.4, Safari 5.0.2; same in FF 3.5.13.
Plus: KOS = all orange. NB = all orange. Adopting color scheme of arch enemy = not cool.
~Oh thank goodness
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:46pm.
I thought my freakin' laptop was going buggy when those didn't work.
Chose: try typing "I'm not a retread troll!"
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:59pm.
That's disabled, too. So that's one positive ;)
Honestly, if there was an option "Use Legacy Version", I'd use it in a heartbeat.
~Oh, if only!
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:10pm.
Sweet merciful Zeus, give me back my Track function! And all our old comments!
Chose~
Submitted by GG_NB on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:41pm.
Wait until you see my next PM. Good gravy.
I don't know what the deal is, but sometimes I can reply to comments in the main blogs -- and sometimes I can't. Same with my PMs...it's as though sometimes it's disabled, and then all I can do is write a line in the subject header.
I'm pretty confused. I know there's a learning curve for this...but mine is apparently going in reverse...which means that the very first time I encountered this new format may be as good as it gets for me! ^_^
Would it be inappropriate for me to cry?;(
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
~Don't know about crying..
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:41pm.
I'm not generally the swearing kind but I've heard a few matters of that sort from military friends..and one in particular comes to mind.
I agree Chose
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:45pm.
But it would be nice (for me), if they kept them from Jer, and sometimes Shawn. : )
Overall, it looks good but
Submitted by d1carter on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 3:59pm.
Overall, it looks good but the font size and boldness is really lacking. I am having a hard time reading what I am writing now.
No comment numbers and avatars
Submitted by gwalt on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:22pm.
I noticed the number of comments (New, etc.) don't show anymore. Also, I think someone mentioned avatars. I've seen some cool ones on Auto forums and other forums. Would be great to use here---tasteful of course.
"A lot of briefing for a 2 hr. special with Dan Rather. Saw the show & wonder why we bothered". Ronald Reagan
qwalt, the avatars only appear on the forum, or if someone...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:52pm.
...clicks on your profile. They tried letting them be displayed on the regular threads a couple of years back, but they slowed the site to a crawl. -DaveVote for the American in November
Thumbs down on the home page...
Submitted by desertdweller on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:46pm.
The use of 2/5 of the columns for content and 3/5 for menus, ads, blogrolls, etc stretches out the page vertically. The front page is NOT as easy to read as the old layout.
In addition to getting "Access denied" when I click on...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:51pm.
..."My inbox" over to the right, I am also getting that when I try to access my personal contact form. - DaveVote for the American in November
Has anyone heard from Dave
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:55pm.
Lately?
: )
Boudin,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:56pm.
LOL - It's my ADHD. If I don't post it while I'm thinking about it, I'll forget. Besides, I'm too lazy to actually write things down anymore. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I actually even wrote a check -DaveVote for the American in November
I can't even remember
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:20pm.
the last time I actually even wrote a check
Me either, Obama broke me.
New Look
Submitted by Liberty1773 on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 4:57pm.
Too small. Ads are bigger than news stories.
Print too small, images too small, video too small.
Go back to the old layout.
It worked,
if it an't broke, don't fix it.
The number of articles per page needs to be increased, too
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:25pm.
As around here, falling off the front page is like falling off the face of the planet. -DaveVote for the American in November
~.....
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:41pm.
Who are you and where the hell am I?
R,
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:57pm.
Too funny. -DaveVote for the American in November
A lot of the dates on the articles are whacked, too
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 5:50pm.
This is October 11. - DaveVote for the American in November
I like the newness factor,
Submitted by LighthouseJ on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:14pm.
I like the newness factor, but the main page is too cluttered with stuff on the right.
It looks like 60% of the space vertically is filled with extra stuff (NB Extra, CNS News, Newsbusted, etc...) and the main attraction, the articles are crammed into a single third-column of a newspaper.
I would remove all of the middle column and replace with a horizontal ticker or something unobtrusive.
I'd at either keep the final column so it'll be like the previous design, or do something radically new with it. Half of it is extra links to my user account, which should be accessible in the header links (next to the date) or videos (like Newsbusted) which take up a lot of horizontal width.
How about if we can individually add/remove the sections to customize the layout?
Regardless, it's money well spent IMO. Keep up the fine work.
A Few Bugs
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:17pm.
Every time I left click or center click and open a new tab in Firefox, whether it's the "read more" link or the article title link, I am brought to the comment box and not the top of the article. Also, the arrow keys don't work for moving the text cursor in plan text mode.
In addition, can you do away with that silly little edit box that appears every time I right click in the comment box using rich text mode? It's interfering with my FF spell checker. I think most, if not all people, know the keyboard shortcut for copy, cut, and paste, so the popup edit box isn't really necessary.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
see below
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:21pm.
I no long have a comment box.......if I fill in subject box , then save the box magically appears so I can type like this. Thanks for listening.......I know you must be inundated with shi....stuff.......I can do it this way........so no hurry.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Post a comment
Submitted by ahusser on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:30pm.
Have to scroll down to the bottom of the comments to post a new comment. Need to place a comments link at the end of the article. I am lazy so with no new comments Ill just jump into a previous reply or comment to post.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
OK
Submitted by Chaitealover on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:34pm.
Looks like if I bookmark the "Blogs" page instead of the home page, I'll be able to see if a story has more comments than the last time I looked, but I still had to do a browser search through 3 pages of comments to try to find the 6 new comments that were supposed to be on this blog, but I only found 2 that way [OK, this was probably a bad story to try that on, a lot of use of the word "new," but it's a word that appears in a lot of comments all the time]. Please put an asterisk * or something in front of the word "New" for new comments.
I still don't like not having the tracking page, though. I don't remember every title for every item I may have had an interest in last week.
Are the tag line comments gone for good? Those were usually kind of interesting and generally gave the reader a little insight to the writer's outlook.
Also
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:38pm.
Also, (although this is an error that I noticed the last time you updated) clicking on "new" comment link on any blog brings me to the first page and not the first new comment when there are more than one page of comments.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
This is bad
Submitted by ahusser on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:42pm.
The more I look at it the worse it gets.
No tracking
Lacking New comments button under article.
No "Who is online"
No "recent comments" on main page
I will apologise in advance if I find some of these things are still there but in a different place.
If it aint broke dont fix it.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
Wow...and Whoa...what the
Submitted by bigtimer on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 6:45pm.
Wow...and Whoa...what the heck happned?!
Don't even know if this will post...or how it will.
Too weird for me at the moment...took me forever to just log-in.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
okay posting new comments?
Submitted by botg on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:14pm.
how?
i had to go to the bottom of the page to find it, then fill in a subject and hit preview before a comment box opened,
a comment button please
recent comments need to be on every page please and more of them
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Recent Comments on ALL PAGES
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:39pm.
Yes, Bruce, I agree... and it can go right below the log-in box. I'm sure they'll return it to all the pages, as well as get it back to 10 (from 5, which doesn't really cut it...)
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Shy, time to fess up
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:00pm.
LOL-Y'all left all that empty space over to the right because the T-shirt babes are going to be coming back, right? -DaveVote for the American in November
Dave
Submitted by MrShy on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:01pm.
You got me. In fact, a new Mr. Shy babe is there in the column, below your log-in box. I am trying out the new transparent banners that are coded in such a way they can only be seen by male NB members registered with this site three years or longer...
Do you like her?
:)
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Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:07pm.
Works for me. :-^) -DaveVote for the American in November
I contributed to this??
Submitted by FrankB on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:41pm.
An attempt at a joke, I do enjoy the layout. This posted before I finished.
Saw nothing wrong with the old NB
Submitted by FrankB on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:39pm.
While I saw nothing lacking with the old layout, I didn't mind contributing to one of the best sites on the web. Keep up the good work, really enjoy reading the posts and comments daily. NewsBusters is cutting edge, and destined to grow. Godspeed.
mobile
Submitted by AFClone on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:00pm.
I'm trying this on my Droid which is how I normally check out NB 1. Everything on the right is gone...no recent comments, NewsBusted video, etc. So I don't know what everyone is talking about 2. Comment box is HUGE. Have to slide back to see what I wrote. That is all for now. P.S. I have the date on the top of the screen as 10/10/2010. Forget to switch or for posterity?The more I'm using this the
Submitted by bigtimer on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 7:58pm.
The more I'm using this the more I'm liking it...sure there will be more changes to come, be awhile before we can all get used to it, I'll wait until it's all done before I make my final decision.
Does take some gettin' used to in some ways.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Two comments
Submitted by KC Mulville on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:01pm.
Other than that, the look is pretty cool, but I don't come to NewsBusters for the look. I come for the content. Don't scrimp on the content!
Folks, it's not as if we haven't been through upgrades before
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:25pm.
Remember way, WAY back in the pre-ad days, when NB would cr*sh if a bird flew over your house, or if your MiL called, or worse, actually came by, and the site would stay down for hours on end?
Every time there has been an update since, the problems were usually corrected pretty quickly, and I expect this time will be no different.
Hell, for all we know, unless he is into his eighth brew and passed out on the couch (where I would probably be right now had I spent my weekend dealing with this crap) Matthew is having to write some code from dead scratch just to get some of this stuff to work correctly. He's had to do it before.
Some of us need to show a little patience before we go off half-cocked and rip the new site before the bugs have even been worked out..
At least NB is functional again.
-Dave
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Mobile Device
Submitted by Texas Betty on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:31pm.
Lots of hard work went into this no doubt, and congratulations to you on a good product. Although I was comfortable with the old site, I am sure with a little time and acclimation this will be better. I was surprised that the changes didn't seem to make it more mobile device friendly. Took a long time to load up on my smart phone and had to scroll way over to the right to pick up all of the first sentance on every article. Hope that's useful!
yet another opinion
Submitted by rboa on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:37pm.
I have worked for nasa so I know how much another opinion is wanted. ;)
But I do not like the new layout. The front page is 8 screens long and at least 60 percent is whitespace. The light and small font is too light and too small.
how does one send a post
Submitted by jkwtrading on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:51pm.
how does one send a post
Depends on where
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 8:58pm.
You want to send it? : )
Your RSS feed only shows one post
Submitted by JeffWeimer on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:14pm.
And right now it's the sticky one for this post
er.. not so much
Submitted by mwsasser on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:25pm.
Wow... the news stories in the left bar are tiny and there is a ton of dead space on the right after you get past those sidebar items. This is certainly not a layout I'd have used.
Posting problem
Submitted by QMCS on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:44pm.
Ok, Im kinda liking the new site, gonna take some getting used to...but......
When I try to post a comment I get teh subject box and nothing else, i can type in the subject hit post and recieve an error msg and I am told I must have something in the comment field, aso the comment field shows up about this time and i can actually post..
Is this a problem on my end or the site?
I'm having the same problem too...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:54pm.
See my post below...It must be the site.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Is anyone else having trouble with the comment box?
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:51pm.
I've been having trouble with the comment box not showing up when I want to write a comment...Anybody else having that issue? Also, what happened to the online indicator next to out name(s) and our picture/photo? They were here last night, but now they're gone.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
They are only working on the forum threads
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:52pm.
-DaveVote for the American in November
Okay...Guess it's gonna take...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:57pm.
some time to get the gremlins out of the works.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Just clicked on "My inbox" and it worked
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:52pm.
:-)Vote for the American in November
Yep...Me too...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Mon, 10/11/2010 - 9:54pm.
Just started working a little bit ago...Glad to have that back.
Thanks for your help earlier! :-)
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
clicking thru
Submitted by Lonevoice on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 12:12am.
can't seem to follow any of the "Read more" buttons. Tried IE and Chrome and Firefox
Another glitch?
Submitted by Model850 on Tue, 10/12/2010 - 9:33am.
Returning to this thread I saw a "New Comments" count of 88, but when I scrolled through the comments looking for the new one I saw nowhere near 88 "NEW" tags.
Is the comment counter function buggy, or is the function that tags a post as "new" buggy and doesn't carry across page breaks?
RSS Feed to Widgets Only Shows Most Recent Article
Submitted by SBVOR on Wed, 10/13/2010 - 12:58pm.
RSS Feed to Widgets (even your own) only includes the most recent article:
http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/newsbustersorg-exposing-liberal-media-bias
Widgets should include the most recent 5 to 10 (or whatever) articles.
Comment #48 (posted on 10/11/10) previously noted this problem.
Please fix it.
Some Widgets Now Functioning Correctly
Submitted by SBVOR on Wed, 10/13/2010 - 4:14pm.
FYI...
The Widget which I linked to in my previous comment (#59) is now operating correctly.
Various other widgets serving Newsbusters still demonstrate the same problem:
http://www.widgetbox.com/search?q=newsbusters
At least one of these other widgets was created by NewsBusters and -- presumably -- could be fixed by NewsBusters:
http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/newsbusters-narrow-headline-widget
Others, I assume, would have to be corrected by the various other creators of the widgets.
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Screen or silkcreen printing is popular for our non-textile products. Poncho RaincoatThis screening can be either single or multicolored. such as Pen and and USB Flash Drive and Tape Measure and Mug and Water Bottle and Umbrella and Inflatable etc, plastic material, leather material, metal material, Wholesale Knifesilicone material, rubber material, Wholesale Candletextile material are available.
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At Corporate Snobs we pride ourselves in offering some of the best choices of customization in the industry.Wholesale Calculator
Our embroidery options are available for most of our monogrammed Tote Bag and Apron and Cap and Embroidery Coaster and Towel etc textile products.
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