AP's Surveyed Economists: Unless Stopped by $150 Oil, Happy Days Are Here Again
It's always a bit of risk saying that a bunch of supposedly smart folks are wrong, but the economists Jeannine Aversa at the Associated Press consulted for a Tuesday afternoon report on the economic outlook must be taking a double dose of sunshine pills every day.
If we are to believe these folks, the only thing that can stop the economy now is oil -- not the $112 a barrel accompanied by $4 per gallon gas we're seeing now. That's noooo problem. These smarties apparently think it's clear sailing ahead for the economy as long as oil doesn't go to $150, which would translate to at least $5.50 a gallon.
Here goes, if you can stand it:
AP survey: Only oil shock can stop economy now
The American economy is now strong enough to withstand Middle East turmoil and the Japanese nuclear crisis. Only a big rise in the price of oil could stop it now.
Those are the findings of an Associated Press survey of leading economists, who are increasingly confident in a recovery that is nearly two years old. They expect the economy to grow faster every quarter this year.
In part, that's because the economists think Americans will spend more freely in the coming months. Higher stock prices have made people wealthier. And a cut in the Social Security payroll tax is giving most households an extra $1,000 to $2,000 this year.
... The one factor that could make a second recession a possibility would be a jump in oil prices to $150 a barrel, economists say. Oil trades at about $112 a barrel now. The record high, set in the summer of 2008, is about $147 a barrel.
"The economy is regaining some of its lost muscle and now seems to have a much thicker skin than it did six months or a year ago, and that's helping it handle various negative forces," said Lynn Reaser, a board member of the National Association for Business Economics.
While oil has risen almost $40 a barrel since Labor Day, analysts think it would take something extraordinary to drive the price all the way to a new record - either supply disruptions because of a new front in the Mideast unrest or action by the Federal Reserve that brings down the value of the dollar.
Economists think gas prices, now averaging $3.87 a gallon and rising every day, will stabilize by summer and drop to about $3.50 by fall. Rising gas prices are taking up much of what Americans are pocketing from the Social Security tax cut.
Aversa goes on to note the following predictions:
- Over 3% annualized economic growth during each of the next three quarters, after 2.2% in the first (this first-quarter estimate directly conflicts with many other forecasters who have recently cut their estimates to an annualized 1.5% or so).
- A drop in the unemployment rate to 8.4% by December, 10 quarters after the official end of the recession. By contrast, 10 quarters after the end of the early-1980s recession, the economy's unemployment rate under Ronald Reagan was 7.2%, even though the rate had peaked at a higher level (10.8%) just after the recession than it did shortly after the 2008-2009 recession (10.1%).
- Average hourly pay will rise, consumer spending will grow robustly, inflation will stay relatively tame, and the ghost of Saul Alinsky will return to take us to the Promised Land. (Okay, I made up the last one.)
The AP reporter's assembled apparatchiks -- er, economists -- would be more believable if we weren't looking at the following contrary indicators, to name just a few of potentially many:
- A housing industry that is 25% of what it was six years ago and shows little sign of recovery. Even Aversa's colleague Derek Kravitz knows that, and reported it yesterday: ""
- Numerous price-increase announcements by consumer products makers -- "According to The Wall Street Journal, last week retailers were told to expect price increases next month on items like Scott tissue (up 7 percent), Charmin tissue (up 5 percent), and Glad trash bags (9.5 percent)."
- A three-month crash in consumer confidence as reported by Gallup.
- The ongoing effect of multi-year, $1 trillion-plus deficits.
My bet is that the Aversa's write-up is an attempt to take some of the sting of out what is looking to be an disappointing first quarter GDP report coming out Thursday by doing a preemptive Tony the Tiger routine ("Hey, this quarter was weak, but the rest of the year will be grrrrrreat!). Shoot, even the New York Times noted on Sunday that "the pace of recovery from the global financial crisis has flagged since November."
Again, though you never want to say they're wrong, it seems from here that Aversa went to a bunch of folks she could count on to tell her what she wanted to hear. Remember, this is the same reporter who trumpeted an economic "rebound" in December 2009. That didn't work out too well. We're still millions of jobs down from where we would be in anything resembling a normal recovery, and it took GDP four more quarters to get back to where it was before the recession began. The recovery as Warren Buffett defines it -- per capita GDP returning to where it was in June 2008 -- remains a far-off dream.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Where are these economists?
Submitted by Chris Norman on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 12:36am.
Are these economists talking about the US? Because, I don't recognize the muscular, thick skinned economy described....
What about the fantastic
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 12:52am.
What about the fantastic unemployment rate of 8.8% I am sure $149.99 oil will help that inconvenient figure!
Fool my once...
Submitted by Duymon on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 12:55am.
I stopped reading after saw the word "Economists"
Next week I can totally see a headline with the word "Unexpectedly"
I read this differently. The
Submitted by Van Halen on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 2:01am.
I read this differently.
The AP is going into damage control for Obama. It's obviously not the fact that his policies are a disaster, or that we're in three wars, or that oil is spiking because our dollar is weak or the Middle East is in flames. It couldn't be the $14 trillion in debt or the record spending or the endless printing of money. It wouldn't be the record unemployment, record bank failures, record foreclosures, record number of people on food stamps - it would HAVE to be something Obama told us to watch out for: Those *speculators*! And when the oil gets to $150 a barrel, then we know Obama was right! Why, he knew this might happen all along! And - and the economy was doing SO well, too! Shameful.
Just shameful.
Hey, let's give Obama more time to fix things - how about oh, another four years in office after this term?
That is a good ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 8:00am.
... theory, esp as I see that Chavez is doing everything he can to make $150 oil come about with a really really stupid and very very steep "windfall profits" tax.
Phony baloney
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 6:55am.
Higher stock prices only make you wealthier on paper, IF you own stocks, AND, unless you sell the stocks at a gain, then you don't own them any more.
That cut in the SS tax only affects people who are working, not the millions of unemployed nor the millions on a pension and/or SS.
Once again....
Submitted by Spoker on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 7:52am.
Another great PR piece as AP continues to shill for Barry and his minions. I guess if you can not afford to drive to work it is not unemployment that is the problem. So in another great example of 'liars figure and figures lie' they can drop the numbers and trumpet what a great job they have done solving that problem. This would be funny if it were not so tragic for so many future goverment dependents.
Well, Americans will be free
Submitted by dscott on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 8:10am.
Well, Americans will be free with their cash because the Fed is printing free money. Basically, it is an admission that an inflation episode is about to hit the US. And of course the GDP being tracked in gross dollars is going to show an uptick since the government is low balling inflation. We haven't come out of the recession, the inflation correction factor to adjust the GDP is not properly calculated, the government has been lying about inflation. The supermarket and gas pumps don't lie, the government IS! Who are you going to believe, THEM or your lying eyes?
The 2nd and most important point is the MSM has now made a de facto admission, being shills for the Obama Regime, that government policy is to induce and or not oppose rising oil prices. The Obama Regime has no interest in lowering the price of oil due to their eco-fanaticism for their cult belief in AGW. The upshot of higher gasoline prices is lower government subsidy cost for alternative energy. They, the eco-fascists have no problem forcing all of us to pay for their unsustainable ideas, they are balancing their budget on our backs. To back up my point see this: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/04/governm...
Finally, the unemployment rate will continue to go down BECAUSE the vast majority of new hires are part time temporary workers whom in the government's method of counting EQUAL full time permanent workers. This is in addition to the millions of full time jobs that will never come back as long as this REGIME holds power.
Let me ask a question...
Submitted by c5then on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 8:11am.
Are these the same "leading economists" who missed the dot com bubble in the late 90's? The same economists who missed the housing collapse and the worst recession ever (maybe even a depression when all the real stats are finally published)? They missed the 5 bagger+ in precious metals...
Are we talking about these same geniuses?
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
I think you can add these "economists" to the growing list
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:03am.
...of politicians and their "journalist" propaganda hacks that are going to be hunted down by some seriously cheesed-off people with dogs in whatever it is that post-collapse America winds up being.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Is it raining?
Submitted by johnsonl on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 9:13am.
Nope, just another economist/scientist/politician/liberal MSM pundit p i ssing on my leg.
I saw that in my morning paper...
Submitted by brutony1 on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 1:00pm.
Almost spilled my coffee. The newspapers are good nowadays for cleaning up spilled coffee, birdcages, and something to do if youre in the bathroom and your mobile doesnt work, or you need 2 free hands, lol! This article is one of the 17 reasons why Im not reading papers much, and soon wont anymore!
When will liberals WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! -Me
It's The Dollar Stupid
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 7:16pm.
If you don't watch Beck, you don't know jack about the economy. The value of the dollar goes down, the price of oil goes up. Don't look now, but the dollar just took a nosedive against the Euro. Oil went up in almost direct proportion.
Everything else is nothing more than top-down, macroeconomic mumbo jumbo.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Well then if the oil market
Submitted by Cowboy on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 10:12pm.
Well then if the oil market hits $150, then the oil market is clearly racist...