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AP Failing to Update Prosser-Kloppenburg Election Tally, Claiming Moral Victory For Dems

By Tom Blumer | April 08, 2011 | 21:09

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It may be laziness, or it may be failure to recognize reality, but the Associated Press's official tally of the Wisconsin Supreme Court race carried at JSOnline (but note the AP-based URL) still shows Democrat JoAnne Kloppenburg with a 204-vote lead over incumbent David Prosser, and hasn't been updated since Wednesday at 4:00 p.m.

This failure to update has occurred despite the following statement made at the 3:00 mark of the video (HT Hot Air) showing Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus explaining why over 14,000 country votes were not originally reported to the Badger State's Government Accountability Board (GAB), which oversees state elections, at a late Thursday press conference:

These numbers will be reflected in my official results, canvass report, that was submitted to the Government Accountability Board.

Ms. Nickolaus mixed up tenses, but it seems pretty clear that by using the word "official" she is saying that the GAB now has the results, and that they should be reflected in any official reports.

Accordingly, yours truly has updated the AP's non-current scoreboard with the Waukesha County correction and a couple of smaller ones:

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The Winnebago County difference difference was noted by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Thursday afternoon, and at that point changed what had been a 204-vote Kloppenburg lead to a 40-vote Prosser advantage. I picked up the more minor Dane County difference, which if done before the Waukesha County disclosure would have put Kloppenburg back into a temporary 3-vote lead, by going to its official canvass results.

As seen above, when all changes I could identify are incorporated, Prosser leads by 7,559 votes, or a margin of 0.5067%. This is ever so slightly above the threshold where, according to Page 2 of the GAB's recount manual, Kloppenburg would be required to pay for a recount: "If the difference (in the total votes cast between the leading candidate and those cast for the petitioner) is more than .5% but not more than 2%, the fee is $5 per ward." In Wisconsin, a ward is apparently the same thing as a precinct.

With the handwriting on the wall, the AP's Todd Richmond tonight went into conposing what was mostly a Democratic Party consolation piece. His old Kloppenburg margin report was the AP's stale number from Wednesday, as he failed to take into account Winnebago County known results change. Also note the direct late-paragraph contradiction of Richmond's earlier assertion that the results represented a "draw" for Governor Scott Walker (bolds are mine):

When a little-known liberal challenged a conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court justice, the once-sleepy race suddenly looked like a backdoor way for Gov. Scott Walker's opponents to sink his agenda.

 

Then a clerk discovered 14,000 unrecorded votes that vaulted the incumbent into the lead. Experts said the results represented a draw for the governor: He didn't lose, but the slim margin means he didn't win big, either. And the close contest could help ensure Walker's opponents stay energized for the next round.

 

The outcome also improves the odds that Walker's collective bargaining law would survive a legal challenge before the high court. Yet it falls short of a clear public endorsement of the governor's policy.

 

The conservative "didn't win by the margin everyone expected him to win by," said University of Wisconsin-Green Bay political science professor Michael Kraft. "If I were Walker, I wouldn't be saying everything is just dandy and people love me."

 

... Democrats and Kloppenburg supporters worked to tap into the anger surrounding the measure. They hoped electing Kloppenburg would tilt the state Supreme Court to the left, increasing the chances that the justices might eventually strike down the law.

 

They attacked Prosser as a Walker clone and sought to tie him to the governor's aggressive budget-cutting agenda. At first it looked as if the strategy had worked.

 

Kloppenburg's campaign surged, and voter turnout in Tuesday's election shattered expectations. Unofficial returns initially showed Kloppenburg with a 204-vote lead out of 1.5 million votes cast.

 

... (19th paragraph -- Ed.) "This is a win for the right over the left. Had Kloppenburg won, it would have been a significant victory" for Walker's opponents, said University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee political scientist Mordecai Lee, a former Democratic state lawmaker.

Instead of looking for silver linings, Richmond would have been better served if he had remembered a famous saying from the mouth of a rather well-known coach of Wisconsin's professional football team: "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing." And failing to change the scoreboard doesn't change who wins and loses.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

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Big victory in WI

Submitted by nkviking75 on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 9:22pm.

The outcome also improves the odds that Walker's collective bargaining law would survive a legal challenge before the high court. Yet it falls short of a clear public endorsement of the governor's policy.

Really?  With a strong union presence in Wisconsin and the Democrats' penchant for stealing elections in recent years, I'd say it's a huge victory for conservatives.  They managed to beat back the libs.

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Moral Victory

Submitted by Jerry Mack on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:11pm.

Union Leader: We won a moral victory!
Wisconsin Liberal: "Who is this guy Moral?" "I was told to vote for Klopenhemmer or something like that!"

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Victims of LSU know all about

Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:39pm.

Moral victories

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That would be the Tennessee Vols

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:42pm.

They love their moral victories in Knoxville.

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Now Blonde . . .

Submitted by Caringwhiteguy on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:21pm.

You cannot have moral victories when you employ immoral coaches.

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I have no idea what you're talking about White Guy

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:31pm.

At Florida, we only have real victories, and National Championships!

Besides, we hire coaches with real men's names, like Urban and Will (Coach Boom)....nothing so pedestrian as Lame Kitten or Mr. Pearl. I almost (almost, but not quite) feel sorry for the pumpkin puke people. We're going to break their tall skinny stick boy in half next fall.

Woo Hoo....Orange & Blue game tomorrow at noon. Football Season has begun. :)

GO GATORS!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey Blonde

Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:44pm.

Think those Gators are good enough for SEC runner up? Good Luck,,,,,,,,, you'll need it!

Have a few friends heading to Gainsville for your spring game this weekend, kid you not!

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Well, I think we're looking good in the East

Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:48pm.

With whole new coaching crew, it's going to be an interesting year, but I'm thinking it couldn't possibly be worse than last year!

I'm thinking around 9-3. To the West teams, unfortunately. Not too worried about the East, not even to SOS.

I can't wait, I hate this time of year, baseball just doesn't do a thing for me.

Tell me, do you all have a QB yet (and did you hear about Garcia at USCe?).

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We love the Baseball

Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:57pm.

We were ranked 5th before your Gators swept us 3 weeks ago. Believe the Gators are #1or2 right now.

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A moral victory = A defeat for immorality

Submitted by needle on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:31pm.

Let’s see: Rampant vote stealing, absentee ballot abuse, multiple voting, phantom voting, all by you-know-who. In spite of all that the Dems lost the election and the AP calls it a moral victory for the Dems? Absolutely Pathetic!

It was a moral victory, but certainly not for the Dems!

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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For The Pinheads

Submitted by PrimalElements on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 10:41pm.

If you take out all the illegal votes cast and the $3 million it's a landslide.
The best part is the unions burned a lot of money.

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Did the AP run away...

Submitted by bigdaddy on Sat, 04/09/2011 - 12:04am.

...to Illinois so they wouldn't have to report on this story???

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This is terrific! Great win

Submitted by jdhawk on Sat, 04/09/2011 - 1:31am.

This is terrific! Great win in a hard fought battle.

You've got to wonder the real story behind the "found" ballots. Day before yesterday, Rush mentioned that Prosser was well ahead in the polls prior to the vote. While he didn't intimate wrong doing, as he is always careful not to cast blame unless there are irrefutable sources, he wouldn't have mentioned if it wasn't important.

Also, we will never know the tens of millions of dollars that were expended by dimocrats to twart this election and the budget initiatives that were undertaken by Governor Walker. The sad part is that, if you believe and I do the charge that this is a colossal money laundering scheme from the taxpayer through the unionized workers, to the unions, and into the hands of dimocrats, then it was the taxpayers that were fleeced.

While there may be law suits ahead, this WI budget just may hold.

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Real Story

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 04/09/2011 - 12:21pm.

The election official in Waukesha county released the wrong numbers to AP on election night.  The unofficial numbers reported to AP are meaningless, and I wish they would stop doing this sort of stuff.  The numbers shouldn't be released until after all the votes are officially counted. 

A Democrat official in Waukesha county concurred with their Republican counterpart regarding the correct, official numbers.  The real story here, and it is an amazing turn-of-events, should generate headlines all over the news:

HONEST DEMOCRAT ELECTION OFFICIAL FOUND IN RURAL WISCONSIN COUNTY!!  

Now that's a "Man Bites Dog!" story if there ever was one.

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They weren't the wrong

Submitted by BloodBath on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 2:03am.

They weren't the wrong numbers, they were just the unofficial numbers that were available at the time. They weren't found like I keep reading about. The vote count was still in progress so the election could have swung either way.

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Wrong Final Tally to AP

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 04/11/2011 - 11:51am.

Here's an excerpt from a Wisconsin State Journal editorial:

Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus stunned the state Thursday by announcing some 14,000 votes from the city of Brookfield had not been included in her final tally she gave to the AP on election night.

Justice David Prosser had been a couple hundred votes behind challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg after all counties reported their preliminary results to the AP.

But after Nickolaus discovered her mistake and the Brookfield votes were included in Waukesha County's subsequent tally, Prosser was more than 7,000 votes ahead.

A Democratic Party official in heavily-Republican Waukesha County has reviewed the numbers and is confident the new vote total is legitimate. But that hasn't stopped Kloppenburg supporters from demanding investigations.

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The number she gave to AP as the final tally from Waukesha County was wrong.  The tally she gave to Wisconsin state officials was correct.  If you have a story that says something other then the above happened, I would love to read it.

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Well then ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Tue, 04/12/2011 - 9:08pm.

... why wouldn't the AP get an official total tally from the state and tie it in to their individual county totals? Or is that too much work?

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My guess

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 04/12/2011 - 10:32pm.

My guess here is that AP doesn't like the final tally.

Personally, I don't like the whole process.  When an outside source like AP gets the results from separate areas in Wisconsin, and makes those results public, it opens up the whole process to more possibilities of voter fraud.  Keep the vote truly secret until the tally is released by statewide election officials comprised of all parties involved.

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No biggie.

Submitted by Teamcheeser on Sat, 04/09/2011 - 2:22am.

JSOnline and the AP still have Gore ahead of Bush.

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A Republican won?

Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 04/09/2011 - 9:00am.

Time to call in the lawyers for an endless recount.

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AP declares the victor

Submitted by wingnut55 on Sat, 04/09/2011 - 10:08pm.

Everyone knows that a winner can't be declared until the AP decides who won. The AP needs to remember when Thomas Dewey beat Truman for the Presidency. How many votes were "found" in that election?

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I looked. I really did.

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 2:24am.

But I just can't seem to locate that portion of the report where the AP supposedly claimed the election was a "moral victory for the Dems".

It appeared to me the article presented a very balanced assessment of the election and its implications.

Jer

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The post's headline is not in quotes ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 9:34am.

... and ...

He didn't lose, but the slim margin means he didn't win big, either. And the close contest could help ensure Walker's opponents stay energized for the next round.

... is the description of what the reporter believes is a moral victory.

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I understand, Tom...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 12:10pm.

but, while I still find the article to be appropriately balanced, how about AP implies election was a moral victory for Dems....or suggests....or hints...or creates the impression...or tries to convince the reader...or seems to claim, etc.

That said, I appreciate an editor who fearlessly and frequently takes the time to jump down here amongst the rank and file to defend himself when challenged.

Jer

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Sorry Jer ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 2:01pm.

He didn't lose, but the slim margin means he didn't win big, either.

... is an unqualified claim to the equivalent of a moral victory. That is a claim, and the fact that it is a claim is not objectively arguable.

I know you don't like it when I go the "inarguable" route, but it is what it is.

This is where you should admit that you're wrong.

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On the contrary, Tom...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 3:35pm.

The excerpt you quoted is simply a statement of fact which carries with it certain implications, e.g. the continued energized efforts of supporters of both candidates.  Now, whether or not anyone considers the election results a "moral" victory is a matter of speculation, but such was neither the explicit claim of AP nor a necessary inference from a reading of the words in question.

What if AP had reported in 2000-2001 that "Bush's razor thin margin meant he didn't win big" and consequently faces political challenges due to the absence of a clear mandate. Would you have concluded and published a blog entitled "AP claims Gore wins moral victory"?

But the larger issues are bias and balance, and the latter is provided in the same article by statements such as this:

If Prosser's lead holds up, the Supreme Court's conservative majority would remain intact. It's impossible to say for sure whether the bloc would uphold the law, but a Prosser victory would, at the very least, give the measure a better chance before the high court.

"This is a win for the right over the left. Had Kloppenburg won, it would have been a significant victory" for Walker's opponents, said University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee political scientist Mordecai Lee, a former Democratic state lawmaker.

"Now the Supreme Court as the sort of last stop for opponents has become a mirage. There's no point in getting there," Lee added.

By the way, I don't mind in the least your going the "inarguable" route.  It's what I expect from you, even if it does occasionally lead you astray [despite my best efforts to keep you on track]. It may be time for a GPS.

This is where you should say "you know, Jer, you're absolutely right...again."

:-)

Jer

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There's no point in doing

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 3:54pm.

There's no point in doing anything beyond repeating what I correctly asserted, because everything you spout on is irrelevant to the central point:

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He didn't lose, but the slim margin means he didn't win big, either.

... is an unqualified claim to the equivalent of a moral victory. That is a claim, and the fact that it is a claim is not objectively arguable.

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Sorry to inform you that your most recent comment is thus a complete and egregious waste of your time.

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Tom...Whether it can be fairly labeled a "claim" is not the

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 4:19pm.

central issue.  The critical point--other than bias and balance--is that your stating the claim is the "equivalent of a moral victory" is merely your inference, and the reasonableness and propriety of that inference--notwithstanding how emphatically you may insist otherwise--is absolutely, categorically, indisputably objectively arguable. It's as simple as that.

Jer

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Jer---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:27pm.

"He didn't lose, but the slim margin means he didn't win big, either."

- He didn't lose -

stands quite nicely by itself as a statement of fact.

To have added the additional was unnecessary, and is evidence that the statement in toto  is an attempt to detract from victory as it stood.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Gosh, just think of all the wasted verbiage by AP

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:41pm.

when the entire article could have been reduced to three words:

"Prosser didn't lose."

Not very informative, but succinct and to the point.

Jer

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Mr. Blumer and Uncle Jer got into an argument.

Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:40pm.

At stake - $10,000 to the winner of the argument.

Mr. Blumer didn't lose, but he didn't win big either.

Now, who walked home with the $10,000? Yeah, you have to think about it for a second there. Did Mr. Blumer beat the point spread? Or...

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Vet....

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:41pm.

You want to make a quick five grand?

Jer

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LOL ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 04/10/2011 - 6:42pm.

... and Jer, like AP, claimed a moral victory.

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He is a Vol, after all Tom

Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 04/12/2011 - 10:23pm.

And as we all know, the Volunteers are brilliant at Moral Victories.

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